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thefaithf
05-28-2010, 08:17 PM
<p>Thank you, SOE, for making the PvP in this game worth logging in.  I love the PvE side of EQ2, love the lore, in a roleplaying guild on Nagafen, and so glad I have seen this game mature to what it is now. </p><p>I have never had so much fun in this game.  Enjoying it all on several alts.</p>

Greggthegrmreapr
05-29-2010, 02:41 AM
<p>Sarcasm?</p>

Hallowell
05-29-2010, 05:15 AM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Sarcasm?</p></blockquote><p>Either that, or he's a Q...</p>

Greggthegrmreapr
05-29-2010, 10:53 AM
<p>Being a Q has nothing to do with it.</p>

Hallowell
05-29-2010, 12:11 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Being a Q has nothing to do with it.</p></blockquote><p>It sure has... if you ever played a fp, you would have known that the majority of the fp population has left to join the Q side, since they are obviously more organized or whatever. The ratio atm is by far 4:1 or more. So gank / zerg fest, combined with lag. Indeed it does have something to do with being a Q, since only the Q's are benefitting from this.</p>

Aldhissla
05-30-2010, 02:57 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Being a Q has nothing to do with it.</p></blockquote><p>It sure has... if you ever played a fp, you would have known that the majority of the fp population has left to join the Q side, since they are obviously more organized or whatever. The ratio atm is by far 4:1 or more. So gank / zerg fest, combined with lag. Indeed it does have something to do with being a Q, since only the Q's are benefitting from this.</p></blockquote><p>You're not playing on the same server as the rest of us.</p>

Neskonlith
05-30-2010, 04:40 PM
<p><cite>Aldhissla wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Being a Q has nothing to do with it.</p></blockquote><p>It sure has... if you ever played a fp, you would have known that the majority of the fp population has left to join the Q side, since they are obviously more organized or whatever. The ratio atm is by far 4:1 or more. So gank / zerg fest, combined with lag. Indeed it does have something to do with being a Q, since only the Q's are benefitting from this.</p></blockquote><p>You're not playing on the same server as the rest of us.</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">When well-known SOE deleted FP exploiters take their re-rolled toons to Qeynos, you know they're heading to where it's easymode.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Consider all these Warfields that Qs dominate through the lag, I have yet to witness Freeport winning.  I have observed that Freeport does appear to have a lot of players locking tower guardians to prevent other FP from having a hope of winning tokens that may or may not randomly be awarded.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Can't fault Qeynos for working together when FP is busy sabotaging our own side!  Here's a /salute to the victorious Qeynosians in Warfields, <em>possibly</em> raking in victory tokens in WF after WF - when the gods of broken random token award deign to smile.  </span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">I'll gracefully accept my defeat and slink back in to BeeGees where the lag doesn't exist and the pathetic cheap-shot teammate sabotage is more along the lines of AFK.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Thank Rallos we still have crafting!</span></p>

Aldhissla
05-30-2010, 06:35 PM
<p>Can't help Q having better players which they always seemed to have.</p><p>I've been on fp side for the vast majority of my play time and have met far less good players than on my short time in Qeynos. And at that time fp was outnumbering Qeynos too.</p>

Stuckx
05-30-2010, 07:26 PM
<p><cite>Aldhissla wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Can't help Q having better players which they always seemed to have.</p><p>I've been on fp side for the vast majority of my play time and have met far less good players than on my short time in Qeynos. And at that time fp was outnumbering Qeynos too.</p></blockquote><p>Honestly don't know what game your playing,cause its certainly not the same one I'm playing. Every warfield I've done has been maybe 20-40 freeps,and well over a hundred Q's. Everytime my group goes to take a tower,we'll stand there and fight against 15-20 Q's for about ten minutes,and then the rest of the horde shows up and wipes us.</p><p>Q's SEVERELY out number freeport,and if you can't see this,then you are blind. Numbers are the only reason my group ever loses in PVP.</p>

Novusod
05-30-2010, 08:30 PM
<p>It is far worse on Vox where the Qs out number freeps by 20 to 1. Good luck soloing those raids of players. I have seen the qs siege and defeat all 4 CL towers in under 3 minutes.</p>

Muraazi
05-30-2010, 10:26 PM
<p>My last WF, Qs on Nagafen completed the whole event in no more than 5 min. Numbers are a huge problem atm.</p><p>Imo, the problem sprouted roughly around the time Onyx went Q, go figure eh. If the devs don't do something soon about the imbalances, Qs will be getting those "win" tokens for not even fighting. The majority of FP have given up for one reason or another, lag, numbers, spending 30 min and not even get the 5 token reward for losing.</p>

thefaithf
05-31-2010, 05:36 AM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Sarcasm?</p></blockquote><p>Not being sarcastic at all honestly.</p>

Aldhissla
05-31-2010, 05:59 AM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Aldhissla wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Can't help Q having better players which they always seemed to have.</p><p>I've been on fp side for the vast majority of my play time and have met far less good players than on my short time in Qeynos. And <span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong><em>at that time</em></strong></span> fp was outnumbering Qeynos too.</p></blockquote><p>Honestly don't know what game your playing,cause its certainly not the same one I'm playing. Every warfield I've done has been maybe 20-40 freeps,and well over a hundred Q's. Everytime my group goes to take a tower,we'll stand there and fight against 15-20 Q's for about ten minutes,and then the rest of the horde shows up and wipes us.</p><p>Q's SEVERELY out number freeport,and if you can't see this,then you are blind. Numbers are the only reason my group ever loses in PVP.</p></blockquote><p>Or maybe youre just worse.</p>

Hallowell
05-31-2010, 08:00 AM
<p><cite>Aldhissla wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Being a Q has nothing to do with it.</p></blockquote><p>It sure has... if you ever played a fp, you would have known that the majority of the fp population has left to join the Q side, since they are obviously more organized or whatever. The ratio atm is by far 4:1 or more. So gank / zerg fest, combined with lag. Indeed it does have something to do with being a Q, since only the Q's are benefitting from this.</p></blockquote><p>You're not playing on the same server as the rest of us.</p></blockquote><p>Uhm...I'm not? Dude, take a look at my sig. Also feel free to look me up on eq2players - all my toons are on Naggy - so dont come with that bull... if it was not me your message was aimed at, well then I apologize for this post. If it was - go make some research before saying such stupid things.</p>

Hallowell
05-31-2010, 08:03 AM
<p><cite>Aldhissla wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Can't help Q having better players which they always seemed to have.</p><p>I've been on fp side for the vast majority of my play time and have met far less good players than on my short time in Qeynos. And at that time fp was outnumbering Qeynos too.</p></blockquote><p>Heh... another freep joined the Q's. Why the heck did you even bother commenting my above statement, when you just show in this post, that I am correct? <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

Eboncross
05-31-2010, 08:24 AM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Aldhissla wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Can't help Q having better players which they always seemed to have.</p><p>I've been on fp side for the vast majority of my play time and have met far less good players than on my short time in Qeynos. And at that time fp was outnumbering Qeynos too.</p></blockquote><p>Honestly don't know what game your playing,cause its certainly not the same one I'm playing. Every warfield I've done has been maybe 20-40 freeps,and well over a hundred Q's. Everytime my group goes to take a tower,we'll stand there and fight against 15-20 Q's for about ten minutes,and then the rest of the horde shows up and wipes us.</p><p>Q's SEVERELY out number freeport,and if you can't see this,then you are blind. Numbers are the only reason my group ever loses in PVP.</p></blockquote><p>If you guys would get off your GREY toons you'd have plenty of people out there. I see a SEA of grey everytime im out there. If those people would log on thier 90's (if they have them) you guys would have better numbers and odds honestly.</p>

Hallowell
05-31-2010, 08:49 AM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Aldhissla wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Can't help Q having better players which they always seemed to have.</p><p>I've been on fp side for the vast majority of my play time and have met far less good players than on my short time in Qeynos. And at that time fp was outnumbering Qeynos too.</p></blockquote><p>Honestly don't know what game your playing,cause its certainly not the same one I'm playing. Every warfield I've done has been maybe 20-40 freeps,and well over a hundred Q's. Everytime my group goes to take a tower,we'll stand there and fight against 15-20 Q's for about ten minutes,and then the rest of the horde shows up and wipes us.</p><p>Q's SEVERELY out number freeport,and if you can't see this,then you are blind. Numbers are the only reason my group ever loses in PVP.</p></blockquote><p>If you guys would get off your GREY toons you'd have plenty of people out there. I see a SEA of grey everytime im out there. If those people would log on thier 90's (if they have them) you guys would have better numbers and odds honestly.</p></blockquote><p>I would say the same thing, if it was not for the fact that the majority of the freep population had betrayed their high lvl toons to Q side, and kept their small ones on freep side. I myself know quite a few people who have done this. Pisses me off tbh.</p><p>And yes, I do agree with your term "if they have them" <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> There ARE indeed lazy ppl in FP (lazy: not wanting to team up / forming raid for WF) who just wants to troll around on their own. And then complain afterwards that there is no organisation <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </p><p>Lack of ppl / Organisation = fail.</p><p>Sometimes it makes me feel sick of being a FP, but I'm staying loyal to the cause <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

EndevorX
05-31-2010, 08:58 AM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Aldhissla wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Can't help Q having better players which they always seemed to have.</p><p>I've been on fp side for the vast majority of my play time and have met far less good players than on my short time in Qeynos. And at that time fp was outnumbering Qeynos too.</p></blockquote><p>Honestly don't know what game your playing,cause its certainly not the same one I'm playing. Every warfield I've done has been maybe 20-40 freeps,and well over a hundred Q's. Everytime my group goes to take a tower,we'll stand there and fight against 15-20 Q's for about ten minutes,and then the rest of the horde shows up and wipes us.</p><p>Q's SEVERELY out number freeport,and if you can't see this,then you are blind. Numbers are the only reason my group ever loses in PVP.</p></blockquote><p>If you guys would get off your GREY toons you'd have plenty of people out there. I see a SEA of grey everytime im out there. If those people would log on thier 90's (if they have them) you guys would have better numbers and odds honestly.</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff6600;">LOL. You're COMPLETELY kidding yourself if you think Freeport can compete with 150-200 Qeynosians, often 6 times as many as they have.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff6600;"></span></p><p><span style="color: #ff6600;">When the lag IS as bad as it is, it's obvious that you wont be able to categorically disrupt enemies destroying tower guardians that often go down within 10-30 seconds.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff6600;">Players see where another was about 6 seconds after they move.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff6600;"></span></p><p><span style="color: #ff6600;">Whether it's crippled net code or not enough core i7s, solid state drives, or RAM in the servers, something drastic needs to be done to improve the performance under load for EverQuest II.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff6600;"></span></p><p><span style="color: #ff6600;">Creating new instances for warfields won't alleviate the problem, it'll possibly exacerbate it because tons of Qeynosians will be keeping multiple Antonicas and Commonlands up to completely floor Freeportian competition, obtaining tokens at unprecedented rates.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff6600;"></span></p><p><span style="color: #ff6600;">Whether it's halving instance timers for Freeportians or doubling their token reward for PvPing in T9, something serious needs to be done to alleviate the EXTREME population disparity present.</span></p>

Hallowell
05-31-2010, 09:00 AM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Aldhissla wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Can't help Q having better players which they always seemed to have.</p><p>I've been on fp side for the vast majority of my play time and have met far less good players than on my short time in Qeynos. And at that time fp was outnumbering Qeynos too.</p></blockquote><p>Honestly don't know what game your playing,cause its certainly not the same one I'm playing. Every warfield I've done has been maybe 20-40 freeps,and well over a hundred Q's. Everytime my group goes to take a tower,we'll stand there and fight against 15-20 Q's for about ten minutes,and then the rest of the horde shows up and wipes us.</p><p>Q's SEVERELY out number freeport,and if you can't see this,then you are blind. Numbers are the only reason my group ever loses in PVP.</p></blockquote><p>If you guys would get off your GREY toons you'd have plenty of people out there. I see a SEA of grey everytime im out there. If those people would log on thier 90's (if they have them) you guys would have better numbers and odds honestly.</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff6600;">LOL. You're COMPLETELY kidding yourself if you think Freeport can compete with 150-200 Qeynosians, often 6 times as many as they have.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff6600;"></span></p><p><span style="color: #ff6600;">When the lag IS as bad as it is, it's obvious that you wont be able to categorically disrupt enemies destroying tower guardians that often go down within 10-30 seconds.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff6600;">Players see where another was about 6 seconds after they move.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff6600;"></span></p><p><span style="color: #ff6600;">Whether it's crippled net code or not enough core i7s, solid state drives, or RAM in the servers, something drastic needs to be done to improve the performance under load for EverQuest II.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff6600;"></span></p><p><span style="color: #ff6600;">Creating new instances for warfields won't alleviate the problem, it'll possibly exacerbate it because tons of Qeynosians will be keeping multiple Antonicas and Commonlands up to completely floor Freeportian competition, obtaining tokens and unprecedented rates.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff6600;"></span></p><p><span style="color: #ff6600;">Whether it's halving instance timers for Freeportians or doubling their token reward for PvPing in T9, something serious needs to be done to alleviate the EXTREME population disparity present.</span></p></blockquote><p>True that</p>

ailen
05-31-2010, 09:05 AM
<p>Its the KP zerg except now the Grays are welcome to come out and leech.  zone lag is only made worse by these people that are hiding behind level restrictions and then jumping into every fight just to get a hit.  Its like taking Sinking Sands gray level lock pvp and throwing it in Kylong Plains.  Then... rewarding people TONS of tokens just for showing up.</p><p>It is unfortunate that Freeport is outnumbered so badly.  I have always been suprised that people will still use the same old tired, Freeport or Qeynos is just filled with crap players.  that's just delusional.  You'll find that they are filled with equally terrible players with a few good ones sprinkled in.  The victories are so lopsided because of numbers, nothing else.  At this point, if you really wanted tokens, it'd be more beneficial to just make a Q.. get to level 10 and then run around and smack people while the mass of people zerg everyone to death.  Then when you're sufficiently tokened up, just betray.  I mean, its the same token on both sides after all.</p><p>Think about that.  That's how stupid this system is atm.</p>

Proud_Silence
05-31-2010, 09:53 AM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Its the KP zerg except now the Grays are welcome to come out and leech.  zone lag is only made worse by these people that are hiding behind level restrictions and then jumping into every fight just to get a hit.  Its like taking Sinking Sands gray level lock pvp and throwing it in Kylong Plains.  Then... rewarding people TONS of tokens just for showing up.</p><p>It is unfortunate that Freeport is outnumbered so badly.  I have always been suprised that people will still use the same old tired, Freeport or Qeynos is just filled with crap players.  that's just delusional.  You'll find that they are filled with equally terrible players with a few good ones sprinkled in.  The victories are so lopsided because of numbers, nothing else.  At this point, if you really wanted tokens, it'd be more beneficial to just make a Q.. get to level 10 and then run around and smack people while the mass of people zerg everyone to death.  Then when you're sufficiently tokened up, just betray.  I mean, its the same token on both sides after all.</p><p>Think about that.  That's how stupid this system is atm.</p></blockquote><p>+1, well said</p>

Aldhissla
05-31-2010, 11:35 AM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Aldhissla wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Can't help Q having better players which they always seemed to have.</p><p>I've been on fp side for the vast majority of my play time and have met far less good players than on my short time in Qeynos. And at that time fp was outnumbering Qeynos too.</p></blockquote><p>Heh... another freep joined the Q's. Why the heck did you even bother commenting my above statement, when you just show in this post, that I am correct? <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>Just sharing my experience. I never claimed you weren't correct about FPs switching over to Q.</p>

Hallowell
05-31-2010, 03:13 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Its the KP zerg except now the Grays are welcome to come out and leech.  zone lag is only made worse by these people that are hiding behind level restrictions and then jumping into every fight just to get a hit.  Its like taking Sinking Sands gray level lock pvp and throwing it in Kylong Plains.  Then... rewarding people TONS of tokens just for showing up.</p><p>It is unfortunate that Freeport is outnumbered so badly.  I have always been suprised that people will still use the same old tired, Freeport or Qeynos is just filled with crap players.  that's just delusional.  You'll find that they are filled with equally terrible players with a few good ones sprinkled in.  The victories are so lopsided because of numbers, nothing else.  At this point, if you really wanted tokens, it'd be more beneficial to just make a Q.. get to level 10 and then run around and smack people while the mass of people zerg everyone to death.  Then when you're sufficiently tokened up, just betray.  I mean, its the same token on both sides after all.</p><p>Think about that.  That's how stupid this system is atm.</p></blockquote><p>+1 there lad.</p>