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Beagest
05-26-2010, 09:45 PM
<p>For the love of god. This is a joke.</p>

Brynhild
05-26-2010, 10:39 PM
<p>I second this motion.  Takes 5 seconds to use a combat art with 20 people on the screen.  Can't imagine how bad it is for casters..</p><p>This can't possibly be that hard to fix?  </p>

Beagest
05-26-2010, 10:55 PM
<p>They just don't want to spend money to fix this game. They don't seem to realise you need to spend money to make it.</p>

Schizophrenik
05-27-2010, 01:14 AM
<p>Why should they fix it.... we keep throwing our money at them and yet.. they do nothing. After 5 years of this game I really think I am about done with this crap.</p>

Portbott
05-27-2010, 01:16 AM
<p>Could have been worse. On top of 20 second spell lag, they could have just put in rediculously cheap 45% in combat runspeed mounts so that no one who doesn't want to fight doesn't have to fight anymore.</p><p>Oh. Woops.</p>

Schizophrenik
05-27-2010, 01:20 AM
<p>I have to agree that is pretty annoying also.</p>

Roald
05-27-2010, 09:55 AM
<p>Why can't we get servers like the Russian ones? <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" /></p><p><a href="http://files.mail.ru/BO1M3C">http://files.mail.ru/BO1M3C</a></p>

alabama
05-27-2010, 11:47 AM
<p>agree. the servers are years past due on a upgrade. everyone knows this especially the devs. stop being cheap, you will make alot more money if you actually spend a little.</p>

Dunce123
05-27-2010, 11:54 AM
Add a new marketplace item. Server upgrade token everyone buys server upgarde token for $1000 SC. Marketplace would be good for something then.

MaCloud1032
05-27-2010, 01:08 PM
They would probly upgrade vox first :/

Wytie
05-27-2010, 01:15 PM
<p>Didnt we get new servers already? Or maybe that was just a 64b upgrade.....</p>

Badmotorfinger
05-27-2010, 01:32 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Didnt we get new servers already? Or maybe that was just a 64b upgrade.....</p></blockquote><p>I came over from Venekor and my performance is2-5 times as bad...  I feel lied to, and cheated. TBH.</p>

alabama
05-27-2010, 01:52 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Didnt we get new servers already? Or maybe that was just a 64b upgrade.....</p></blockquote><p>im not sure man. i thought it was suposed to be a upgraded server as well but that <strong><em>def did not happen</em></strong>. i remeber everyone riding thier jock because of faster zoneing times and faster broker speeds...woopdeedoo</p><p>i dont care how long it takes me to zone or use the broker. what i want is to be able to pvp without dying before the people and structures rendor or running around in circles waiting 10 secs for a combat art to land. </p><p>attempting to spike through a healer in 10 sec lag. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/e78feac27fa924c4d0ad6cf5819f3554.gif" border="0" /></p><p>you can only "tweak" your hardware so much, its time to actually buy new stuff.</p>

asaron
05-27-2010, 06:01 PM
<p>They upgraded from a commodore to a commodore 64 ! spent the rest of the money on a hair piece for smed</p>

Jacquotte
05-28-2010, 04:49 AM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Didnt we get new servers already? Or maybe that was just a 64b upgrade.....</p></blockquote><p>I came over from Venekor and my performance is2-5 times as bad...  I feel lied to, and cheated. TBH.</p></blockquote><p>same here, watching the video of the russian server performance was like a diff game</p>

Erriondrivan
06-16-2010, 12:09 PM
<p>Since you're not allowed to make new threads about lag or "someone" will lock them... Ya may as well keep commenting on an old one right?</p><p>Buy new Servers <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p>

Dh
06-16-2010, 12:29 PM
<p>They don't need new servers. They need to wise up and optimize the code.  Disable Armor/jewelry slot gear procs in PVP for a week test and get 3 to 5x server performance. it would remove sooooo many loops. Howmuchyawannabet?</p><p>almost everyone will hate/flame this idea because they like their procs. whine more but nothing will change... love your lag?!? </p><p>some effects could be changed to clicky.</p><p>-coder for 10years. i eat sleep code</p><p>go against me in PVPs get /*commented out*/</p>

Dh
06-16-2010, 12:31 PM
<p>sheet they could even say it was a bug to the general population. just do it</p>

Neskonlith
06-16-2010, 01:20 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff00ff;">Disable Armor/jewelry slot gear procs in PVP for a week</span> test and get 3 to 5x server performance. it would remove sooooo many loops. Howmuchyawannabet?</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">That would be an interesting experiment to run!</span></p>

Zorastiz
06-16-2010, 01:41 PM
<p>You should try playing on AB if you think you have performance issues over there it is worse on AB, not to mention the daily and weekly server crashes and unscheduled downtime.</p>

max.power
06-16-2010, 01:57 PM
<p><cite>Neskonlith wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff00ff;">Disable Armor/jewelry slot gear procs in PVP for a week</span> test and get 3 to 5x server performance. it would remove sooooo many loops. Howmuchyawannabet?</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">That would be an interesting experiment to run!</span></p></blockquote><p>The idea that procs could be the reason for the massive lag was brought up by players months ago, in the era of the "Kylong Plains lagfest". People were also saying that way back massive fights in Antonica/Commonlands were the norm, without THAT kind of lag - so what has changed? The population is smaller, that can't be the issue. The zones (Ant/CL) are the same (more or less)...</p><p>I'd be in for testing a "procless" week! I'm positive that SOE is able to create special, permanent Ant and CL instances with disabled procs on live servers. This way we could test this with enough people...</p>

YasikoSetsu
06-16-2010, 07:08 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>You should try playing on AB if you think you have performance issues over there it is worse on AB, not to mention the daily and weekly server crashes and unscheduled downtime.</p></blockquote><p>Dont wanna turn this in to a 'my lag can beat up your lag' battle, but lag is a tiiiiiiny bit more painful when you're trying to kill something with a brain.</p><p>Also, commonlands crashes pretty much daily, on Nagafen - during warfields.</p>

Daalilama
06-16-2010, 08:48 PM
<p><cite>YasikoSetsuna wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected] Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>You should try playing on AB if you think you have performance issues over there it is worse on AB, not to mention the daily and weekly server crashes and unscheduled downtime.</p></blockquote><p>Dont wanna turn this in to a 'my lag can beat up your lag' battle, but lag is a tiiiiiiny bit more painful when you're trying to kill something with a brain.</p><p>Also, commonlands crashes pretty much daily, on Nagafen - during warfields.</p></blockquote><p>lol contested raid name pull....in pvp combat...with 5-10 sec lag....god bless lagaphen</p>

Jingel
06-16-2010, 09:12 PM
<p>new test idea..........delete all Sks from Nagafen you will see we never have any lags again.</p><p>fix the server we really need the new servers</p>

Shareana
06-16-2010, 10:39 PM
<p>We do not discuss Moderation on these forums.  If you have a questions about why a post was moved, it is better to PM a Moderator to ask.</p><p>We also do not need insults...  or racial slurs for that matter.</p>

Putyo
06-17-2010, 12:21 AM
<p>Hey look another GENERIC response concerning server lag.</p><p>We have had the same "We are working on it" post since TSO. IT HAS BEEN OVER A YEAR AND THE LAG IS STILL HORRIBLE, UNPLAYABLE, AND CAUSES RAIDS TO CALL OUT OF ZONES EARLY ALMOST EVERYNIGHT</p><p>.</p><p>This is PATHETIC on Nagafen and is completely unacceptable for the duration of time this has been going on, COME ON. Lag should not be a reason I want to cancel my sub from a game that has been out 5 YEARS.</p>

Putyo
06-17-2010, 12:33 AM
<p>You are underestimating big time on how bad this is on Nagafen. For the love of christ you really want all your pvp aspiring players reading crap like this every week on your pvp discussion board?</p>

Edavi
06-17-2010, 01:37 AM
<p>Heh, guys I cant even begin to explain how little they care...</p><p>It sucks, I know, and im frustrated too... But, really, they arent going to do it. I think Thier goal is to make people hate the places that have high lag so u dont go there anymore <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

Edgaard
06-17-2010, 05:00 AM
<p>hey, buy new servers tbh imo</p>

Edavi
06-17-2010, 12:00 PM
<p>Eh, testing to disable procs is a decent idea, but then what, if they find out that their server cant hold procs, you know they will jsut get rid of procs in PVP... opening a whole new can of worms about PVE gear sucking in PVP, and classes being insanely unbalanced and this and that.</p><p>Furthermore, if you remember when WFs first came out, and Rothgar had the amazing HINDSIGHT super observation... that the lag was a result of too many players in the zone, not so much the mechanics.</p><p>It is miserable, raid zones, PVP hotspots, any zone that has alot of people in it in general.</p><p>MY concern is that this will end in more instancing, significant changes to the game and how many of us enjoy it, or more lag.  I think any attempt by the play base to convince them to buy new servers is futile, we have spent two years as a player base trying to get shadow knights nerfed to no avail, do you really think we are going to get them to pull out thier wallets?</p><p>Sigh /fingers crossed, but I think lag is somethign that we are just going to have to get used to, I personally dont take part in the CL pvpv anymore (not to the chagrin of Vymm im sure <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> ) but i just have better things to do than try to figure out if my spell cast or not.  I tried them for a couple of days, then gave up and went to a BG.. I had almost forgot what it was like to PVP without lag! I wish I were an oscar Meyer Bluebie, then I could PVP lagfree.</p>

Shareana
06-17-2010, 01:24 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Hey look another GENERIC response concerning server lag.</p><p>We have had the same "We are working on it" post since TSO. IT HAS BEEN OVER A YEAR AND THE LAG IS STILL HORRIBLE, UNPLAYABLE, AND CAUSES RAIDS TO CALL OUT OF ZONES EARLY ALMOST EVERYNIGHT</p><p>.</p><p>This is PATHETIC on Nagafen and is completely unacceptable for the duration of time this has been going on, COME ON. Lag should not be a reason I want to cancel my sub from a game that has been out 5 YEARS.</p></blockquote><p>I do not believe that I mentioned anything about the lag.  I have nothing to do with that aspect of the game.  My domain is the forums...  which is what I addressed <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

Edgaard
06-17-2010, 01:47 PM
<p>You should address the development team about these posts</p>

Ralpmet
06-17-2010, 01:49 PM
<p>Yeah it's clearly at a point where it's a big worry for every single player on this server when the forum fills up with these posts. </p><p>I imagine getting a response to one of these threads than stickying it or making sure it doesn't fade away would stop a majority of these posts and make your job a little easier <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

Putyo
06-17-2010, 03:02 PM
<p><cite>Shareana wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Hey look another GENERIC response concerning server lag.</p><p>We have had the same "We are working on it" post since TSO. IT HAS BEEN OVER A YEAR AND THE LAG IS STILL HORRIBLE, UNPLAYABLE, AND CAUSES RAIDS TO CALL OUT OF ZONES EARLY ALMOST EVERYNIGHT</p><p>.</p><p>This is PATHETIC on Nagafen and is completely unacceptable for the duration of time this has been going on, COME ON. Lag should not be a reason I want to cancel my sub from a game that has been out 5 YEARS.</p></blockquote><p>I do not believe that I mentioned anything about the lag.  I have nothing to do with that aspect of the game.  My domain is the forums...  which is what I addressed <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>I'm responding to the thread locked by kiara, you know the one we cant post in?</p><p>PS the lag is still terrible, thanks for another night of early raids, dont even get me started on pvp lag.</p>

Kiara
06-17-2010, 03:15 PM
<p>Nagafen has had their server hardware and database software upgraded.</p><p>The Nagafen cluster is currently running on the most robust server system of any of the servers.</p><p>As has been stated several times, the issues are being addressed.  The server stability issues are a top priority for the team.</p><p>No, I don't know the technical details.  However, I do know that it isn't something that can be fixed and solved in a few minutes.  Unfortunately tracking down the source of the problem to fix it and not just put a bandaid on the issue is going to require a good deal of time.</p><p>I understand that it's frustrating and that you guys are impatient.  But railing at us isn't going to make it go any faster.</p><p>And yes, I'm locking this one too, because folks can't seem to behave in a civilized manner.  One CAN complain and still be civilized.</p>