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fioremag
05-26-2010, 06:34 PM
<p>ive done about 9 warfields since they came out about half of them i didnt get no tokens and its happening to alot of people on vox this needs to be looked into</p><p>if anyone else is having issues please post or petition so they can get this fixed asap i dont like spending 30 mins for nothing</p>

Thinwizzy
05-26-2010, 07:08 PM
<p>I have experienced this twice today.  On both occasions I spent more than 20 minutes either defending a tower (aka watching no one attack it) or helping kill the tower guards.</p><p>*Edit: My petition was just updated.  The following is part of the response:</p><p>"Please be aware the player must receive a special flagging to be eligible for rewards. If you are not flagged when the match ends, you will not be granted with any tokens. Sadly I can not give you any further information on how to ensure you are flagged at the end of the match. I can only suggest to test some things out and ask others for tips."</p><p>Thoughts?</p>

Neskonlith
05-26-2010, 07:38 PM
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Late last night I tried to update a writ before logging out - attacked some Qs and died taking one down with me - I was happy to see 3 names added to my /recent list, but I received no writ updates.  I deleted my writ and tried a fresh one to see if quest bugged out, but I didn't have time to find out before I logged.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Apparently this no-writ updating also happened to others but I do not know their details.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">I'll keep an eye out for this when I log back in tonight, but if the no-updates & no-Tokens is to be the rule of the game for open-pvp, then I'll just go and play lag-free in the BeeGees.</span></p>

Olihin
05-26-2010, 07:48 PM
<p>I will be adding a visual spell effect that should help let you know if you have the flag needed to get credit.</p><p>In the meantime, please make sure to enter the towers when the event is active.   You should be able to tell if the event is active when the Tower Guardians are up.   At the same time, the flag is temporary so make sure you check back in during the match. </p><p>If you come show up with only 5 minutes left in the event, the towers stop granting the flag.   I will change this as well to be 2 minutes left in the event.  </p><p><span style="font-size: large; color: #3366ff;">Olihin</span></p>

Brigh
05-26-2010, 07:55 PM
<p><cite>Olihin wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I will be adding a visual spell effect that should help let you know if you have the flag needed to get credit.</p><p>In the meantime, please make sure to enter the towers when the event is active.   You should be able to tell if the event is active when the Tower Guardians are up.   At the same time, the flag is temporary so make sure you check back in during the match.</p><p>If you come show up with only 5 minutes left in the event, the towers stop granting the flag.   <span style="color: #ff0000;">I will change this as well to be 2 minutes left in the event. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: large; color: #3366ff;">Olihin</span></p></blockquote><p>Hmm...this is almost akin to the way it was on test when you could stand afk, immune on the dock and get tokens just for being in the zone. All one has to do is make sure they get in within 2 minutes left and barely, if any, contribute to get full token credit.</p>

Kaita
05-26-2010, 08:03 PM
<p><cite>Brigh wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Olihin wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I will be adding a visual spell effect that should help let you know if you have the flag needed to get credit.</p><p>In the meantime, please make sure to enter the towers when the event is active.   You should be able to tell if the event is active when the Tower Guardians are up.   At the same time, the flag is temporary so make sure you check back in during the match.</p><p>If you come show up with only 5 minutes left in the event, the towers stop granting the flag.   <span style="color: #ff0000;">I will change this as well to be 2 minutes left in the event. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: large; color: #3366ff;">Olihin</span></p></blockquote><p>Hmm...this is almost akin to the way it was on test when you could stand afk, immune on the dock and get tokens just for being in the zone. All one has to do is make sure they get in within 2 minutes left and barely, if any, contribute to get full token credit.</p></blockquote><p>Which is hardly different then not contributing the whole time. The biggest draw of the warfields is completing writs. There is always going to be people who do the minimum to get rewards. </p>

crumpledmonkey
05-26-2010, 09:17 PM
<p><cite>Olihin wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I will be adding a visual spell effect that should help let you know if you have the flag needed to get credit.</p><p>In the meantime, please make sure to enter the towers when the event is active.   You should be able to tell if the event is active when the Tower Guardians are up.   At the same time, the flag is temporary so make sure you check back in during the match. </p><p>If you come show up with only 5 minutes left in the event, the towers stop granting the flag.   I will change this as well to be 2 minutes left in the event.  </p><p><span style="color: #3366ff; font-size: large;">Olihin</span></p></blockquote><p>Make sure i enter the towers?</p><p> Ok no problem you make sure that the towers render when i am near them and i will try to enter them.</p>

trovan2
05-26-2010, 09:25 PM
<p>I have done several Defense battles and have never got a reward. Each time I have actively killed multiple enemies both while in and out of the tower. Each time I make sure I am standing directly inside the tower at the 10 minute mark. I even show up 15 minutes BEFORE the event starts.</p><p>None of these has helped me. SOE's reply to my petition was that I need to be in the tower, even though I make it clear I was in it.</p><p>In addition, both Antonica and Commonlands have the events are nearly the same time. A simple server restart should fix this, but that seems to be too hard for SOE to do.</p><p>Don't bother putting in a petition, the replies are all cut and paste and uninformative while treating me like im an idiot. Furthermore, SOE will not compensate their customer's time from their own programming failure.</p>

ysslik
05-27-2010, 09:49 AM
<p>got to a cl event with 25 min left went into a tower delt with lag and no tokens at the end although some in chat said they got tokens</p>

Wytie
05-27-2010, 09:59 AM
<p><cite>Olihin wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I will be adding a visual spell effect that should help let you know if you have the flag needed to get credit.</p><p>In the meantime, please make sure to enter the towers when the event is active.   You should be able to tell if the event is active when the Tower Guardians are up.   At the same time, the flag is temporary so make sure you check back in during the match. </p><p>If you come show up with only 5 minutes left in the event, the towers stop granting the flag.   I will change this as well to be 2 minutes left in the event.  </p><p><span style="font-size: large; color: #3366ff;">Olihin</span></p></blockquote><p>I have stood in, around, on and inside the walls of the towers and I only get credit 50% of the time. This is with killing people each time.</p><p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">There is only one thing worse than rewarding people for not doing anything, and thats not rewarding people who do.</span></p><p>Right now its a crap shoot on if you get credit or not, stand in and around the towers have nothing to do with it, because each time I didnt get tokens I was inside the freakn towers each time and not for 5min either Im talkn 15-20min of standing in and around the tower and still no credit 50% of the time.</p>

Harbringer Doom
05-27-2010, 10:48 AM
<p>I don't know what everyone is complaining about, Warfields are doing exactly what the devs wanted them to do...</p>

Teufell
05-27-2010, 11:03 AM
<p>By that do you mean they want them to not work Hork? <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" /></p>

asaron
05-27-2010, 11:41 AM
<p>Massive lagg broke rewards  invisible rules we are not allowed to know  atleast it succeeded in gettin scrubs out of the betagrinds</p>

Harbringer Doom
05-27-2010, 02:34 PM
<p><cite>Teufell wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>By that do you mean they want them to not work Hork? <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>Hey, I can't read their minds!  I'm just quoting Olithin.  They are doing exactly what he wanted them to do.</p>

Obadiah
05-27-2010, 03:09 PM
<p><cite>crumpledmonkey wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Olihin wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I will be adding a visual spell effect that should help let you know if you have the flag needed to get credit.</p><p>In the meantime, please make sure to enter the towers when the event is active.   You should be able to tell if the event is active when the Tower Guardians are up.   At the same time, the flag is temporary so make sure you check back in during the match. </p><p>If you come show up with only 5 minutes left in the event, the towers stop granting the flag.   I will change this as well to be 2 minutes left in the event.  </p><p><span style="font-size: large; color: #3366ff;">Olihin</span></p></blockquote><p>Make sure i enter the towers?</p><p> Ok no problem you make sure that the towers render when i am near them and i will try to enter them.</p></blockquote><p>lol. That's exactly what I was thinking when I read that. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" /></p><p>Can't recall the last time it took that long for something to render, even at SF launch when Paineel was a bit dodgy.</p>

Blambil
05-27-2010, 03:33 PM
<p>played 3 warfields yesterday, zero reward on all of them.... <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

Neskonlith
05-27-2010, 03:38 PM
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Last night I went to WFP CL tower to help defend - my track window was filled with names, but no one was rendering.  </span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">I was getting hit by AEs in an empty field!  I ran in circles hoping to slow down my murder from invisible foes, and after about 20-30s of circling, some people slowly started to show up, floating a little off the ground - apparently, they were inside the invisible tower in a slightly raised area.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">I continued to run in circles around and through the invisible tower (HAXXORS!!!1one!!), and slowly more people started to render.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">When I finally died due to AEs from players I couldn't see, I remained to see how much longer it would take for the tower to finally show up on my client.  It took roughly another 30s before I finally saw the rotten thing pop up.  I almost didn't revive because I couldn't be sure if it would render for me once I returned after rez sickness wore off, but I took that chance.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">I returned to the tower that was finally visible, and started to try to defend - 5-10s spell lag really sucks.  I died, naturally, with no writ updates.  Rinse, lag and repeat.  On my fourth attempt attempt to defend, the tower died and I finally got 5 Tokens for not being able to successfully defend towers that I couldn't see!  yay!</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">The weak server Hamster should be replaced with a steroid-abusing rat.</span></p>

Brook
05-27-2010, 04:00 PM
<p>My suggestion would be to make a large circle around each tower that sets the flag instead of having to try and enter a tower that isn't there. Its bad enough to have to deal with spell lag but to not get credit for it because of things happening we have no control over is kind of ridiculous.</p>

asaron
05-27-2010, 05:55 PM
<p>I ask this with the utmost respect atleast  as much as i feel you deserve but olithin honestly have you ever played this game, interacted with the warfields,  know what pvp is in general? Entering the towers no matter how much you destroy or defend does not seem to even try to flag us its completely random if we get rewards at all lol even the pvp writs are spotty atm. The lag is another issue we feedbacked for ages that the server couldnt handle the load even after the   server upgrade that supposedly happened which ive never noticed any change so  that could of been a lie for all i know. We feedbacked dureing testing also that the rewards where broke and still are  that was never adressed or if it was it was futile as nothing has changed the towers still do not render properly nor do most of the combatants as a previous poster stated. We pay for a product that gets spotty support granted you are not forceing us to pay but lol we might aswell pay somone to stomp our  toe for the amount of feedback that gets listened to.   </p><p>/rant off  just another disgruntled customer </p><p>BUT A BIG GRATS ON ADDING MORE LON AND MARKETPLACE TRASH     Guess Smed needed a new hair piece!</p>

Eboncross
05-27-2010, 06:24 PM
<p>Q side player</p><p>5 Times in Ant only got 5 tokens for a Antonica win should have been 15 tokens. The other 4 times I didnt get anything. All 5 times I killed freeps and hung out near the towers and I was in Ant at the start of each battle.</p><p>5 Times in CL and only got tokens 1 time. All 5 times I destroyed the guardians.</p><p>What am I doing wrong? <strong>Please,</strong> f<strong>ix this part of the game fast before you kill it.</strong></p>

MalicorDraven
05-27-2010, 06:38 PM
<p>Three things to do in a Warfield to <span style="color: #ff0000;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">POSSIBLY</span></span> get tokens:</p><p>1. Hail guardians around a tower and the one inside.</p><p>2. Circle the tower several times at various distances.</p><p>3. And most importantly, set your graphics performance high enough to render the towers/guardians.</p><p>I wasn't getting flagged before (hence no tokens), and it seems i am now. I've recieved tokens the last 4 rounds ive done.</p><p>Am I sure this will work for all? NO. I make no guarantees, just suggestions.</p>

Neskonlith
05-27-2010, 08:22 PM
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Huge fight in CL at WFP, and not long after the 10 minute remaining broadcast, the zone crashes.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">lol</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">No tokens, no pvp writ updates.</span></p>

Gneaux
05-27-2010, 09:22 PM
<p><cite>Neskonlith wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Huge fight in CL at WFP, and not long after the 10 minute remaining broadcast, the zone crashes.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">lol</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">No tokens, no pvp writ updates.</span></p></blockquote><p>I was there too, so I /petitioned this,, and wouldn't ya know just as Freeport was winning, the [Removed for Content] zone crashed,, no tokens,, but when I came back into the game, the tokens I got for completing a writ were in my inventory overflow. I think there needs to be a limit as to how many people are in a zone. This was why there was a kp1, kp2, kp3 etc. This lagfest called "Warfields" , will continue to lag,, and zones will continue to crash, if there is not an option to go to CL1, CL2, CL3 etc. I am not sure how that will even work in game with the new travel system and that big huge map popping up in my face everytime I want to go somewhere because so far I have not even seen an otion for multiple instances of the same zone.</p>

Vlahkmaak
05-27-2010, 09:45 PM
<p>Fighting inside the tower is just fail - it boils down to whom has the best heals and hardest AOEs.  Fighting inside the tower should not be the sole flagging condition.  Killing the attackers outside the tower should flag people as participating in the event too.  If we just wanted point blank AOE we could just go back to standing on the writ giver and hailing Fatuna non stop.  I am 50/50 on the tower ever rendering during the entire fight.  As I am completing writs I am not completely unhappy about not getting the "flag" but forcing people to ground zero is asking for even worse server performance.  </p><p>EDIT  after the 10:15 PM pacific standard Antonica fight.</p><p>Another "failfield" with no tokens unfortunately - started this one with just 1 writ poster up.  Since I won't abandon my group to get a new poster I recieved no additional writ updates nor tokens for the event even though my group was present at the start and killed 2 towers along with everyone else - we died at the NQG fight and revived and then even ended in flight back with no tokens.  This is the third warfield this has occurred at for me.  I would think the current mechanism for checking for afkers is punishing those of us actually participating in the event.     </p><p>ALSO please DISABLE encounter locking on the tower guardians so that people cannot "lock" the tower guardian fight.  This happened last night and the grp killing the tower either did not realize it was locked or did so on purpose. </p>

Naggasaki
05-28-2010, 03:02 AM
<p>It would appear that there is no 'flagging method'. From my most recent Warfields....</p><p>1.) In zone before event starts.</p><p>2.) Hailed EVERY little statue/guard/ or w/e</p><p>3.) Went inside every tower</p><p>4.) Danced a jig while killing waves of FP players</p><p>5.) Stayed in zone until event apparently just disappeared. *no screen announcement or anything in chat log that I can find announcing that it was over and who the victor was...if any*</p><p>6.) Posted on the forum.</p><p>Come on. Please fix this. I understand that the big draw is the writ completions but don't promise me a reward and then not deliver. And for crying out loud, make the 'flagging' process obvious or write it down so SOMEONE can filter it out the the rest of the player base.</p>

ysslik
05-28-2010, 03:29 AM
<p>Well it would be nice to fill a writ if players would render before dieing or maybe i could get a spell off.JUst got done with one in ant dead before tower render i actually had one gaurding render attacked it once and then died no update.it seems towers render beter in cl then ant.</p><p>Let us know something comunicating means alot .you want us to give you feedback so you can figure out a solution well we have. you needed to look at data durring the lag of warfields well there should be lots of data by now being every 2 hours.</p><p>We the players are trying here. were out there trying to do these warfields with lag we all complain in chat on how it sucks to be out here but come the next one were all there again. I dont know how much more peeps can take it before they go back into bgs.Were geting back to open pvp (it may be a zerg but its a start and beter then a zerg in a can imo) and thats what we wanted but were geting dissapionted quite quickly.</p><p>So can you throw us bone tell us what you have found and some solutions your going to try or atleast thinking about.By hearing nothing we think your doing nothing.</p>

Kota
05-28-2010, 10:52 AM
standing inside the tower at conclusion of match. no reward

TniEradani
05-28-2010, 11:17 AM
<p>from bufftest to ______</p><p>so, you think i'm just some newb pve lover cause i said this was gonna suck. sorry, but this sucks on so many lvls. i'm just glad i don't have to watch this anymore.</p>

Wytie
05-28-2010, 11:38 AM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote> Since I won't abandon my group to get a new poster I recieved no additional writ updates nor tokens for the event even</blockquote><p>Dude it takes all of 2 min to cast a call, pick up a new writ and zone back out. Which is usally a good time to restock on signets and bank.....</p>

Kota
05-28-2010, 06:55 PM
bump

Xal
05-28-2010, 07:09 PM
<p>5 Warfields, 2 have been rewarded. Was there the entire time, tried standing inside the tower and right outside, killed plenty of people, hailed guardians and whatnot, does not make any difference at all. Please at least acknowledge that this is a bug and don't tell people to just stand inside the tower when it obviously is not true.</p><p>Don't get me wrong, i appreciate you trying to bring back some open pvp. But the current state is just frustrating when the guy right next to you gets his tokens and you don'.t</p>

Farr
05-28-2010, 07:10 PM
<p>I've defended the tower while remaining in the tower for the past 4 warfields... no tokens.  You flag is broked.  Fix it.</p>

Oobo
05-28-2010, 08:29 PM
<p>yes please fix this, i did my 2nd warfields last night AFTER speaking to a GM in /petition and him telling me to be there for entire match, hail the guardians outside the towers and stay inside the towers...well after doing what i was told and then the match ends and NO TOKENS AGAIN.. and GMs saying OOPS sorry we cant even reinburst u for the tokens not gained EVEN though we see you were there...</p>

Vlahkmaak
05-28-2010, 08:56 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote> Since I won't abandon my group to get a new poster I recieved no additional writ updates nor tokens for the event even</blockquote><p>Dude it takes all of 2 min to cast a call, pick up a new writ and zone back out. Which is usally a good time to restock on signets and bank.....</p></blockquote><p>Nope - not gonna do it if there is not a second tank in the grp to pick up taunts.  I could call back and use my CoV IF the grp is not engaged but since it was pretty thich by the second tower I decided the 1-2min time to get the writ was not worth loosing.  Also, I don't generally bank pvp money as it is all free money.   After how fast the first 2 towers dropped I expected the win/loss tokens would more than cover my time spent.</p><p>However it sounds like alot of people ended up tokenless.</p>

Kota
05-28-2010, 10:53 PM
zilch

Farr
05-28-2010, 11:02 PM
<p>More input for my own personal experiment.</p><p>On my main account I was in zone prior to zone going active.  When the towers spawned I ran inside and remained there.  I never left the tower from start to finish.</p><p>On my second account I zoned in with 10 minutes left on the defense timer. Promptly ran to my main account and stood on him.  I did not leave the tower until the finish.</p><p>On my third account I zone in with 5 minutes left.  Used my RaF "Goto" to zone into the tower.  Remained inside until the finish.</p><p>The results were as follows:</p><p>Main account no tokens awarded.</p><p>Second account TOKENS AWARDED.</p><p>Third account no tokens awarded.</p><p>So either (and I believe this to be true) it's completely random or in order to recieve your "Event Flag" you must be outside the zone prior to guardians spawning.  Then run to you get your flag.  It appears porting to directly in does not allow you to get the flag.  No clue, but I'm interested into others input.</p>

Farr
05-28-2010, 11:03 PM
<p>105 tokens you now own my main account.  60 on my second account and 45 on my third.  Let's get this crap fixed.  You are killing me here.</p>

Vlahkmaak
05-29-2010, 01:39 PM
<p>Still no tokens for participating.  I have fought in the towers, near the towers, away from the towers.  In the past 2 days I have recieved tokens 2x for participating in at least 8 or more WF events.  Fighting in or near the towers is suicide as the Q horde is esily 5-1 vs freeport.  The WF mechanics need to take into account that if we have to do something in or near the towers it is virtual suicide at times.  This morning in ant there were 33 freeport players at 9:15 am pacific standard time - my grp flew to each tower and there were easily an x2-4 of Q at each tower.</p><p>I could care less about being outnumbered - thats the game - however if I am there fighting and not standing afk somewhere then I should be recieving my tokens as the other side is getting 15 free tokens for having superior numbers.  The no token thig has been going on for long enough - I'd rather see the 1-2 idiots who are going to exploit the system get free tokens that punish the player base at large that is out here fighting and dying repeatedly trying to participate in the WF event.</p><p>ALSO the ability of people to INTENTIONALLY log a secondary account and lock the tower guardian is getting really annoying.  the Thundering Gorge tower guardians were locked by 1 freeport player for 15 minutes.  S/he was asked to stop encounter locking and running off but did not stop. </p>

Neskonlith
05-29-2010, 04:13 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>ALSO the ability of people to INTENTIONALLY log a secondary account and lock the tower guardian is getting really annoying.  the Thundering Gorge tower guardians were locked by 1 freeport player for 15 minutes.  S/he was asked to stop encounter locking and running off but did not stop. </p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff0000;"></span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">I've seen at least 3 different Antonica WF where random FP were locking a guardian and ignoring all the shouts to unlock so that everyone else can attack the towers - seems like a really pathetic way to sabotage the event.</span></p>

Dorsan
05-29-2010, 04:52 PM
<p><cite>Farr wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>On my second account I zoned in with 10 minutes left on the defense timer. Promptly ran to my main account and stood on him.  I did not leave the tower until the finish.</p><p>Second account TOKENS AWARDED.</p><p>So either (and I believe this to be true) it's completely random or in order to recieve your "Event Flag" y<strong>ou must be outside the zone prior to guardians spawning</strong>.  Then run to you get your flag.  It appears porting to directly in does not allow you to get the flag.  No clue, but I'm interested into others input.</p></blockquote><p>The bolded part is my own observation when you are defending. I've never got a token if I was in the zone before they spawned and during the entire event, however whenever I zoned in after they already spawned I got the tokens.</p>

Teufell
05-29-2010, 05:40 PM
<p>Getting no tokens while in there all the time fighting what there is to fight  is getting a bit tiresome you know... especially when the only explanation from petition I got was check in on towers from tome to time...  gee did that bought the etc... please enlighten us on WHAT it is we need to do to get those tokens... Or better yet fix it so the people who use the time actively actually get rewarded....</p><p>Pretty please *bashes eyelashes and all*</p>

Novusod
05-29-2010, 05:55 PM
<p>I always get tokens for playing on the offensive side but never get tokens for defense. How do you get tokens for defending?</p>

Brynhild
05-29-2010, 07:15 PM
<p>I don't know.. Defending is touch and go for me.. I've sat inside the tower the full 30 mins and got none, and then i've shown up about 8 mins before it's over and went inside tower and got tokens.</p><p>I always get tokens for attacking though.</p>

Kota
05-30-2010, 05:32 AM
not even worth going to ant wf. like 7 in a row no tokens.

Novusod
05-30-2010, 08:22 PM
<p>It is getting real anoying fighting for 20 to 30 minutes and not getting anything out of it.</p>

Eboncross
05-31-2010, 08:34 AM
<p>working as intended.....move along</p>

Muusic
05-31-2010, 06:02 PM
<p><cite>Olihin wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>(snip)  the flag is temporary so make sure you check back in during the match. </p><p>If you come show up with only 5 minutes left in the event, the towers stop granting the flag.   I will change this as well to be 2 minutes left in the event.  </p><p><span style="color: #3366ff; font-size: large;">Olihin</span></p></blockquote><p>Maybe it wouldn't be such a good thing to have it be common knowlege that all ya have to do is how up at a tower in the last 2 mins of the event to get free tokens? Perhaps a quest starter that can only be picked up within 5 minute sof the guards spawning and is no-zone which requires some form of update that can only be earned withing 5 minutes of the end of the event... this would seriously nerf the players who zone their lv 10 leechbots in and camp the gate towers?</p><p>In any event something MUST be done soon about this. There is less than half of the instance groups running as there was before because of all the players who are waiting for the WF's to pop, and the fact that over 50% of the time no matter what you do you dont get any reward due to bugged code or zone crashes. Im not believing the cookie-cutter petition replies saying i didnt check in with towers often enough when I go to every tower twice during the event and hail every guardian twice also as well as filling several writs in my travels.</p>