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Anizlino5
05-25-2010, 11:47 AM
<p>Thank you EQ2 for your unprofessional attitude toward your paying customers. As an example i will bring up Deadly Bane Warding. regardless how anyone feels about this topic, there have been MUTIPLE posts regarding this change. Many times, posts asking for a simple explanation. Sony's answer has been .. thats right, silence. At first it was said that we were "posting in the wrong area" because the change was still on test. The topic was moved to the "in testing" forum. and for over TWO FULL MONTHS sony emplyees have blatantly IGNORED our requests for information.</p><p>This is the most unprofessional thing I have seen in a long time. Most companies actually take the time to answer concerns of their PAYING CUSTOMERS. I realize that you are too busy ignoring the 53 pages of concern over the fact that you are VISABLY putting more effort in to making better looking mounts for people willing to pay you more money than for people who have been long time loyal customers of this company, and this game itself. I personally have been with Everquest since the 3rd week of Everquest 1, and from day 1 of the launch of EQ2.</p><p>I can safely say from talking with many of my friends and other players, many of us are getting frustrated with your lack of concern, or in this case, the lack of professionalism. You have ignored not just that, but MANY posts of concern in the "in testing" forum.</p><p>Why have the forum if you are going to ignore your paying customers What is the next step, do you wait for another mass exodus of players sick of you ignoring concerns and plowing ahead with your ill concieved and obviously not very well thought through nerfs? I sure hope not, I have played this game personally for a long time, and i hate to see you kill it like you have been.</p>

juggalo0385
05-25-2010, 11:51 AM
<p>you have 2 options here....quit the game or file a complaint with the Better Business Bureau</p>

EasternKing
05-25-2010, 11:53 AM
<p>It needed nerfing, and badly.</p><p>Stop the tears, please.</p>

Anizlino5
05-25-2010, 11:57 AM
<p><cite>EasternKing wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>It needed nerfing, and badly.</p><p>Stop the tears, please.</p></blockquote><p>First, the deadly bane warding post was my EXAMPLE.</p><p>Second, you were one of the very few people who came to say it was OP, AND you are a non shaman, thus, and from your posts, mostly likely to definately don't understand the change, or what it will do to the 2 classes in question, please feel free to spout your ignorance all you want, doesn't make it right, or well informed, thanks</p>

Shiirr
05-25-2010, 11:57 AM
<p>I must have missed that part of the login where they say they have to respond to every request for information, clarification or feedback.  Anybody able to point me in the right direction?</p><p>Anyone?</p><p>Would this be a good place for a <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" /> ?</p>

juggalo0385
05-25-2010, 11:58 AM
<p>you mad?</p>

QuestingCrafter
05-25-2010, 11:59 AM
<p>I won't pretend to have read through voluminously long threads when I haven't; however, if they've not acknowledged that it's an issue (even a curt "working as intended") after weeks/months, then that is poor community management.   =/</p>

Anizlino5
05-25-2010, 11:59 AM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I must have missed that part of the login where they say they have to respond to every request for information, clarification or feedback.  Anybody able to point me in the right direction?</p><p>Anyone?</p><p>Would this be a good place for a <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" /> ?</p></blockquote><p>Oh, so if you pay for a service, and you have a concern, you are told to go to a specific place for information and to clearify your concerns, then after 2 full months you are still being ignored, yea....this is a good place for a <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" /> alright.</p><p>Thanks to the brown nose brigade for popping right out and proving one of my past points. You guys will defend SoE to the end no matter what they do, right till they start plowing your class...</p>

juggalo0385
05-25-2010, 12:02 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I must have missed that part of the login where they say they have to respond to every request for information, clarification or feedback.  Anybody able to point me in the right direction?</p><p>Anyone?</p><p>Would this be a good place for a <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" /> ?</p></blockquote><p>Oh, so if you pay for a service, and you have a concern, you are told to go to a specific place for information and to clearify your concerns, then after 2 full months you are still being ignored, yea....this is a good place for a <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" /> alright.</p><p>Thanks to the brown nose brigade for popping right out and proving one of my past points. You guys will defend SoE to the end no matter what they do, right till they start plowing your class...</p></blockquote><p>I have had no problems with SOE they are great.  in fact I am also playing a trial version of Star Wars Galaxies....you know there are still a lot of people that play that.  I think you just need to sit back and sip on your apple juice and things will be ok</p>

Iamken
05-25-2010, 12:03 PM
<p>They are not required to respond to requests for information if they do not wish to do so. This happens in all of the MMOs out there...even the biggest one.</p>

EasternKing
05-25-2010, 12:03 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>EasternKing wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>It needed nerfing, and badly.</p><p>Stop the tears, please.</p></blockquote><p>First, the deadly bane warding post was my EXAMPLE.</p><p>Second, you were one of the very few people who came to say it was OP, AND you are a non shaman, thus, and from your posts, mostly likely to definately don't understand the change, or what it will do to the 2 classes in question, please feel free to spout your ignorance all you want, doesn't make it right, or well informed, thanks</p></blockquote><p>lol you are funny.</p><p>I know exactly what it does, what it is, how it works, i have 4 shaman in my guild with the stuff. i also play a shaman with the stuff.</p><p>It was Massively over powered, no DPS items in game do anything comparable to this effect and you get it from casting heals.</p><p>DPS procs do 2-3% of a DPS zonewide.</p><p>Anything that is doing 10-12% dps zonewide needs to be nerfed.</p><p>Sorry i dont agree with your tears, it still in no shape or form invalidates the fact this was broken OP. and its being fixed.</p><p>And the best part is you Shamans that are crying about this have no one but yourselves to blame for bringing this OP effect to the Devs attentions.</p><p>And they very very rarely respond to QQ threads.</p><p>If you think your amazingly OP healer class does poor dps, ask them to rebalance you like druids, so you have really good dps, but are pretty lack luster healers.</p>

Alvane
05-25-2010, 12:06 PM
<p>I also have a defiler - at level 81. I'm basically a player who enjoys casual style even though I have played for a few years in variout type raiding guilds including hard core. I enjoyed having the Bane Warding and it's AAs because it is overpowered. So getting the news about the nerf wasn't upsetting. It's obvious the reason and I don't need to have SoE tell me why on the forums about something that many defilers already knew.</p><p>It's similar to the warden's mythical proc'd pwr off group heals x 6. No way was the warden ever gonna get below 95% mana. My warden had to change weapons just to fight mobs like Venril Sathir (before the nerfs). Every one knew the warden didn't need any power from any source other than the mythical. So, when SoE decided to change how the myth generated power, peeps got upset and lamblasted SoE just like you have here. SoE never responded. Why? because the warden wasn't losing it's pwr regeneration - just differently done. Wardens who understood the nerf knew it would happen.</p><p>My advice to you, even though you won't like it, is to smile and think "at least I had a very powerful tool to use for a while". Now, that spell will be the way it is suppose to be.</p><p>BTW, same with REH which proc'd wards like crazy.... now it's been fixed they way it should normally proc. It's still a good piece of gear at T-8 level.</p>

VikingGamer
05-25-2010, 12:07 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I must have missed that part of the login where they say they have to respond to every request for information, clarification or feedback.  Anybody able to point me in the right direction?</p><p>Anyone?</p><p>Would this be a good place for a <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" /> ?</p></blockquote><p>I am not a shaman or any other class effected by this nerf. I haven't followed or even heard about the problem. However, any topic that generates 53 pages of mostly complaints warrants some manner of official feedback.</p>

Shiirr
05-25-2010, 12:07 PM
<p>Not brown nosing.  Just amused that someone actually thinks that their posts demand a response from anyone "in the know", so to speak.  I've been around the forums for a while, my original account <span >info Joined: Dec 8, 2004, Messages: 3548, so I have some idea of what I'm speaking about.  You're upset because they haven't responded.  I'm amused at that because it's an ongoing situation, and SOP for SOE.  Welcome to the world of online gaming.  Have a cookie.</span></p><p>I've played wizards, wardens, monks and swashbucklers since the game launched.  I've seen ups & downs.  Whether it's a legitmate gripe on your part or not, opening up a topic with a header like this means you either are fairly new to posting here, or you want the topic locked/deleted. </p><p>Oh, before I forget ... <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" /></p><p>Lighten up Francis.</p>

Shiirr
05-25-2010, 12:08 PM
<p><cite>VikingGamer wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I must have missed that part of the login where they say they have to respond to every request for information, clarification or feedback.  Anybody able to point me in the right direction?</p><p>Anyone?</p><p>Would this be a good place for a <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" /> ?</p></blockquote><p>I am not a shaman or any other class effected by this nerf. I haven't followed or even heard about the problem. But my quick impression of the situation is that any topic that generates 53 pages of mostly complaints warrants some manner of official feedback.</p></blockquote><p>You must never have read the PvP forums. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

VikingGamer
05-25-2010, 12:12 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>VikingGamer wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I must have missed that part of the login where they say they have to respond to every request for information, clarification or feedback.  Anybody able to point me in the right direction?</p><p>Anyone?</p><p>Would this be a good place for a <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" /> ?</p></blockquote><p>I am not a shaman or any other class effected by this nerf. I haven't followed or even heard about the problem. But my quick impression of the situation is that any topic that generates 53 pages of mostly complaints warrants some manner of official feedback.</p></blockquote><p>You must never have read the PvP forums. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>As a matter of fact, I don't. Have no interest in PvP at all. I guess that would explain having missed this one.</p>

ShinGoku
05-25-2010, 12:13 PM
<blockquote><p><span ><p>I have had no problems with SOE they are great.  in fact I am also playing a trial version of Star Wars Galaxies....you know there are still a lot of people that play that.  I think you just need to sit back and sip on your apple juice and things will be ok</p></span> </p><div></div></blockquote><p>Lol classic fanboi-ism at its finest <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></p>

Anizlino5
05-25-2010, 12:13 PM
<p><cite>EasternKing wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>EasternKing wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>It needed nerfing, and badly.</p><p>Stop the tears, please.</p></blockquote><p>First, the deadly bane warding post was my EXAMPLE.</p><p>Second, you were one of the very few people who came to say it was OP, AND you are a non shaman, thus, and from your posts, mostly likely to definately don't understand the change, or what it will do to the 2 classes in question, please feel free to spout your ignorance all you want, doesn't make it right, or well informed, thanks</p></blockquote><p>lol you are funny.</p><p>I know exactly what it does, what it is, how it works, i have 4 shaman in my guild with the stuff. i also play a shaman with the stuff.</p><p>It was Massively over powered, no DPS items in game do anything comparable to this effect and you get it from casting heals.</p><p>DPS procs do 2-3% of a DPS zonewide.</p><p>Anything that is doing 10-12% dps zonewide needs to be nerfed.</p><p>Sorry i dont agree with your tears, it still in no shape or form invalidates the fact this was broken OP. and its being fixed.</p><p>And the best part is you Shamans that are crying about this have no one but yourselves to blame for bringing this OP effect to the Devs attentions.</p><p>And they very very rarely respond to QQ threads.</p><p>If you think your amazingly OP healer class does poor dps, ask them to rebalance you like druids, so you have really good dps, but are pretty lack luster healers.</p></blockquote><p>I would honeslty love it if they rebalanced the classes, maybe then I wouldn't tool with SKs who pull 50-60k extdps in Cella WITHOUT DBW. Not as high of numbers usually, but the same goes for Beserkers. Guardians still do okay, but they got the shaft this time around, no surprise</p>

CoLD MeTaL
05-25-2010, 12:23 PM
<p>Yet the $tation Ca$h mount has had over 50 dev responses.  PvP is getting tons of responses.  BGs are working well for them less dev time, more people just want to grind out tokens.  This just tells you where the future will be here.</p><p>Can I have your stuff?</p>

Shiirr
05-25-2010, 12:26 PM
<p><cite>CoLD MeTaL wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Yet the $tation Ca$h mount has had over 50 dev responses.  PvP is getting tons of responses.  BGs are working well for them less dev time, more people just want to grind out tokens.  This just tells you where the future will be here.</p><p>Can I have your stuff?</p></blockquote><p>Oh, man.  That's cold.  And appropriate, considering the name of the poster.</p>

Obadiah
05-25-2010, 12:26 PM
<p><cite>EasternKing wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>It needed nerfing, and badly.</p></blockquote><p>It had been in the game in it's existing form for 18 months. An 80+% reduction in effectiveness was far from warranted, particularly while there are still other procs in the game that crit and have potency/crit bonuses applied to them. They are shifting around mechanics rules on a whim.</p><p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I've played wizards, wardens, monks and swashbucklers since the game launched.  I've seen ups & downs.</p></blockquote><p>The difference is, with all of the ups and downs there has never been a single change that resulted in this great a % change in a class' DPS all at once. Their locking of threads related to the ability - even those not related to the Test changes - can probably be chalked up to a misunderstanding on the part of the person that locked them. But their steadfast refusal to comment on or in any way address the significant loss of solo DPS through several subsequent builds on Test is disheartening to say the least.</p><p>This isn't the first change they've ignored feedback about, nor is it the only one in this update (see: Furies). Obviously they don't (and can't) respond to every complaint. Generally in Betas and on Test though, when something has as much traction as these current issues they at least chime in about it. That's really the crux of the issue for the OP, I believe. It is for me.</p>

Dareena
05-25-2010, 12:30 PM
<p>Way back, I remember people asking for a Bane Warding adornment / item added to the SF itemization.  Though I don't recall where, I believe that someone from SOE said that wasn't going to happen.  Perhaps it was an interview?</p><p>When SOE made that answer, I automatically understood that they considered the Bane Warding mechanic to be a mistake in hindsight.  With that in mind, am I really that surprised that they're choking it now?  No, it's really not that unexpected after they decided that Bane Warding shouldn't exist in T9 play.</p>

Claraness
05-25-2010, 12:35 PM
<p>Actually they are required to answer to their customers, just like any other corporation.  The product is not free, therefore they are legally obligated to answer any question that would not jeopardize their product's production or sales.</p>

Slaspen
05-25-2010, 12:37 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>EasternKing wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>EasternKing wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>It needed nerfing, and badly.</p><p>Stop the tears, please.</p></blockquote><p>First, the deadly bane warding post was my EXAMPLE.</p><p>Second, you were one of the very few people who came to say it was OP, AND you are a non shaman, thus, and from your posts, mostly likely to definately don't understand the change, or what it will do to the 2 classes in question, please feel free to spout your ignorance all you want, doesn't make it right, or well informed, thanks</p></blockquote><p>lol you are funny.</p><p>I know exactly what it does, what it is, how it works, i have 4 shaman in my guild with the stuff. i also play a shaman with the stuff.</p><p>It was Massively over powered, no DPS items in game do anything comparable to this effect and you get it from casting heals.</p><p>DPS procs do 2-3% of a DPS zonewide.</p><p>Anything that is doing 10-12% dps zonewide needs to be nerfed.</p><p>Sorry i dont agree with your tears, it still in no shape or form invalidates the fact this was broken OP. and its being fixed.</p><p>And the best part is you Shamans that are crying about this have no one but yourselves to blame for bringing this OP effect to the Devs attentions.</p><p>And they very very rarely respond to QQ threads.</p><p>If you think your amazingly OP healer class does poor dps, ask them to rebalance you like druids, so you have really good dps, but are pretty lack luster healers.</p></blockquote><p>I would honeslty love it if they rebalanced the classes, maybe then I wouldn't tool with SKs who pull 50-60k extdps in Cella WITHOUT DBW. Not as high of numbers usually, but the same goes for Beserkers. Guardians still do okay, but they got the shaft this time around, no surprise</p></blockquote><p>Oh, nerf warlocks aswell then if that is your agrument Azett, since I "seen" warlocks do 140k+ in cella... that must be wrong!!</p>

EasternKing
05-25-2010, 12:38 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>EasternKing wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>It needed nerfing, and badly.</p></blockquote><p>It had been in the game in it's existing form for 18 months. An 80+% reduction in effectiveness was far from warranted, particularly while there are still other procs in the game that crit and have potency/crit bonuses applied to them. They are shifting around mechanics rules on a whim.</p><p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I've played wizards, wardens, monks and swashbucklers since the game launched.  I've seen ups & downs.</p></blockquote><p>The difference is, with all of the ups and downs there has never been a single change that resulted in this great a % change in a class' DPS all at once. Their locking of threads related to the ability - even those not related to the Test changes - can probably be chalked up to a misunderstanding on the part of the person that locked them. But their steadfast refusal to comment on or in any way address the significant loss of solo DPS through several subsequent builds on Test is disheartening to say the least.</p><p>This isn't the first change they've ignored feedback about, nor is it the only one in this update (see: Furies). Obviously they don't (and can't) respond to every complaint. Generally in Betas and on Test though, when something has as much traction as these current issues they at least chime in about it. That's really the crux of the issue for the OP, I believe. It is for me.</p></blockquote><p>They just nerfed the T7 avatar boots.</p><p>Time frame is of no consequence to fixing imbalanced effets, items or class's.</p><p>There is no feed back at all from defilers asking and listing the areas in which the feel the class could use some love in regards to soloing, it is all you cant nerf this, if you do i cant solo.</p><p>No class is ever balanced in any area of play with gear, expecting yours to be is silly.</p><p>The changes to Furys and Mystics and Templars is warranted, they just changed the mechanics of the game, if they hadnt changed the effects on the mythicals for them class's they would have been automatically 20-30% more effective healers than their counter parts, now with the mechanic changes they will be the same level playing field.</p><p>I am not seeing any feed back other than tears from people that wanted to either keep OP effects or do not understand why the changes were needed, it is zero surprise to me the devs have ignored all of the threads, i would as well in their shoes.</p>

Claraness
05-25-2010, 12:39 PM
<p>I'd just like to point out that I don't recall seeing EasternKing posting about greater void bane in TSO.  Odd.</p>

Anizlino5
05-25-2010, 12:42 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] DLere wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>EasternKing wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>EasternKing wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>It needed nerfing, and badly.</p><p>Stop the tears, please.</p></blockquote><p>First, the deadly bane warding post was my EXAMPLE.</p><p>Second, you were one of the very few people who came to say it was OP, AND you are a non shaman, thus, and from your posts, mostly likely to definately don't understand the change, or what it will do to the 2 classes in question, please feel free to spout your ignorance all you want, doesn't make it right, or well informed, thanks</p></blockquote><p>lol you are funny.</p><p>I know exactly what it does, what it is, how it works, i have 4 shaman in my guild with the stuff. i also play a shaman with the stuff.</p><p>It was Massively over powered, no DPS items in game do anything comparable to this effect and you get it from casting heals.</p><p>DPS procs do 2-3% of a DPS zonewide.</p><p>Anything that is doing 10-12% dps zonewide needs to be nerfed.</p><p>Sorry i dont agree with your tears, it still in no shape or form invalidates the fact this was broken OP. and its being fixed.</p><p>And the best part is you Shamans that are crying about this have no one but yourselves to blame for bringing this OP effect to the Devs attentions.</p><p>And they very very rarely respond to QQ threads.</p><p>If you think your amazingly OP healer class does poor dps, ask them to rebalance you like druids, so you have really good dps, but are pretty lack luster healers.</p></blockquote><p>I would honeslty love it if they rebalanced the classes, maybe then I wouldn't tool with SKs who pull 50-60k extdps in Cella WITHOUT DBW. Not as high of numbers usually, but the same goes for Beserkers. Guardians still do okay, but they got the shaft this time around, no surprise</p></blockquote><p>Oh, nerf warlocks aswell then if that is your agrument Azett, since I "seen" warlocks do 140k+ in cella... that must be wrong!!</p></blockquote><p>This is one of the most ignorant statements... so you would compare the dps of a Warlock (argueably one of the highest DPS classes in the game) to a TANK class that is doing more DPS than most DPS classes are capable of... wow...just wow...</p>

Obadiah
05-25-2010, 12:43 PM
<p><cite>[email protected] DLere wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Way back, I remember people asking for a Bane Warding adornment / item added to the SF itemization.  Though I don't recall where, I believe that someone from SOE said that wasn't going to happen.  Perhaps it was an interview?</p><p>When SOE made that answer, I automatically understood that they considered the Bane Warding mechanic to be a mistake in hindsight.  With that in mind, am I really that surprised that they're choking it now?  No, it's really not that unexpected after they decided that Bane Warding shouldn't exist in T9 play.</p></blockquote><p>Wherever it was it wasn't on these forums. Instead, here they ignored a 150-post thread <em><strong>asking</strong></em> for a T9 Bane Warding adornment, which is fine. And then finally locked it, ostensibly because of the changes on Test.</p>

CoLD MeTaL
05-25-2010, 12:44 PM
<p><cite>Claraness wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Actually they are required to answer to their customers, just like any other corporation.  The product is not free, therefore they are legally obligated to answer any question that would not jeopardize their product's production or sales.</p></blockquote><p>LOL</p>

Carthr
05-25-2010, 12:45 PM
<p>Probably because Greater Void Bane wouldn't do up to 20k+ on some encounters..</p>

lost2523
05-25-2010, 12:47 PM
<p><cite>juggalo0385 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>you mad?</p></blockquote><p>come at me bro</p>

Claraness
05-25-2010, 12:49 PM
<p>GVB did upward of 40% of most mage parses.  You see the point I was making.  I love hypocrites.</p>

Obadiah
05-25-2010, 12:50 PM
<p><cite>EasternKing wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>There is no feed back at all from defilers asking and listing the areas in which the feel the class could use some love in regards to soloing, it is all you cant nerf this, if you do i cant solo.</p></blockquote><p>There were lots and lots and lots of suggestions actually.</p>

Claraness
05-25-2010, 12:51 PM
<p>And I don't think I understand your response, Cold Metal.  That is the actual law.  There is no doubt you were aware of this previously.  You strike me as someone that knows a great deal about business law.</p>

Carthr
05-25-2010, 12:51 PM
<p><cite>Claraness wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>GVB did upward of 40% of most mage parses.  You see the point I was making.  I love hypocrites.</p></blockquote><p>And guess what, it got nerfed to almost nil...  I think I might see a pattern here...hmm...  U</p>

Shareana
05-25-2010, 12:52 PM
<p>I am trying to figure out why a new thread was needed on this when the old one still is worthy of additions... </p>

Shareana
05-25-2010, 01:27 PM
<p>The <a href="list.m?topic_id=479245">Halas Reborn - General Feedback</a> thread will be opening soon where you can post comments and thoughts about this update.  Also <a href="list.m?topic_id=479319">Bane Warding Feedback</a> has been started as well <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>