WTB this new and amazing pvp ability!

[Killque]

<p>So I am out soloing, and after a close fight where I emerged victorious, this noob jumps me. Me being in the deep orange with most of my abilities down decide to book it but there is just one problem. I cant get any distance on this son of a gun.</p><p>After a few snares and stuns and failed attemps at killing me I decide to turn on Fraps, so here is the result. At first I thought it was PotC (Pact of the Cheetah) cast before he engaged (bug IMO but whater). After further review that is not the case. He is clearly not a Sarnak, or Kerra, so scratch that idea.</p><p>So what super uber ability is this that I am up against, and where do I get one =)</p><p>Notes:</p><ul><li>I started Fraps aprox 30 seconds after he engaged (started over by the docks) and from time of fraps until death is 50 seconds. So the length of time he was engaged with this ability was aprox 1:20 min</li><li>I run at almost 90%</li><li>I see only the standard pathfinding and fay fall on his buff bar</li><li>At the end he hits me with cheapshot from about 15m away</li><li>He seems to stay the same distance away when im running at 17% and even after the snare wears off and I am moving at almost 90%</li><li>He is not even using sprint</li></ul><p>I probably am missing something obvious here but I thought I would ask.</p><p><a href="http://www.ekoesling.com/eq2/Killque/Killque-Run_Speed_Bug.wmv" target="_blank">Scrub Killque gets owned by a nooblet</a></p><p>Yes, I ran. Yes, I got killed.Yes you can resist saying something dumb like haha you got killed.</p>

[Jeht]

<p>that's what you get for running</p>

[Silverzx]

<p>oh noes!!!! i ran for my life and still got pwnt...hax0r ban him plx, you can see his name in the video</p>

[Shareana]

<p>If you believe that someone is using a hack in game, please petition and let the GM's handle it.  Thank you!</p>

[Dunce123]

<p>I would guess the issues is with LAG in KP.</p><p>I have notice this alot since the update.</p><p>Sometimes i will run into the pvp writ guy in KP and there will be 100 Q's standing there no on of them attacks me. Seems very odd after about a min they all attack and iam dead. Durning this time if i try and cast a get spell lag of 10-20 sec.</p><p>Also seen the revise writ giver will have 100 F's standing there and all the out of know where 4 or 5 Q's are standing in the middle.</p><p>Think it is just the lag in updating locs of players. Same happens when you attacking someone in KP and keep getting player out of range and you are standing on top of them. Just depends on how behind the server is in updating the player locs. Its no the same for all. Just becaaues you think your running doesnt mean the server knows it. On his screen you might not have even been moving.  All the more resaons SOE needs to do the server upgrade.</p><p>Hope tha helps.</p>

[Killque]

<p>Server lag allows players to run fast in combat? I am not understanding how your example can apply to my situation.</p><p>I know what you speak of in reference the writ giver as I have many times jumped down from the top of the spires into the writ giver room ran up and turned in and got a new quest most times before people even realize I am there. Whether I can evac in time is 50/50.</p><p>Anyway, rules of engagement state that once a player has entered combat their run speed buffs are reduced to 0. The few exceptions being Bards that (with specific gear) can run upwards of 20% in combat, Pact of the Cheetah cast before entering combat sometimes keeps you running faster, and sprint.</p><p>I know of nothing else that can contribute of someone being able to keep up with someone running 87% while they constantly beat on them for a minute and a half.</p><p>Other thoughts?</p>

[Ahlana]

<p><cite>Killque wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Other thoughts?</p></blockquote><p>I got none.. that right there is "weird" (for lack of better words)</p>

[Dunce123]

<p>What iam saying is that on his screen and to the server you never moved. Just because you are moving on your screen doesn't mean the server know this has happened.</p><p>Do you have the logs from this fight? I would almost guess you would also see auto attacks hitting you. witch means the server never registered you moving.</p><p>If this was any zone other then KP i would also think hacking but,  i think this is just a lag issue.</p>

[Ahlana]

<p><cite>Dunce123 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>What iam saying is that on his screen and to the server you never moved. Just because you are moving on your screen doesn't mean the server know this has happened.</p><p>Do you have the logs from this fight? I would almost guess you would also see auto attacks hitting you. witch means the server never registered you moving.</p><p>If this was any zone other then KP i would also think hacking but,  i think this is just a lag issue.</p></blockquote><p>The problem with this theory is that when that happens you don't even see the person behind you... if the server doesn't register you as moving.. then you don't move on their screen. If you don't move on their screen then they stay where ever you "are".</p><p>There is no case of lag where the person follows you flawlessly like that and at that speed. Sorry it just doesn't happen.</p><p>Lag either makes the person look like they are jumping all over as the server adjust for their location, or like i posted above, you don't actually look like you are moving at all on the other persons screen.</p>

[wellehad0]

<p><cite>Dunce123 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>What iam saying is that on his screen and to the server you never moved. Just because you are moving on your screen doesn't mean the server know this has happened.</p><p>Do you have the logs from this fight? I would almost guess you would also see auto attacks hitting you. witch means the server never registered you moving.</p><p>If this was any zone other then KP i would also think hacking but,  i think this is just a lag issue.</p></blockquote><p>sorry but in KP it is very easy to tell a speed hacker now.. so yes there is lag in kp but when you have that many people in one spot mooving around you can pick out the speed hackers very easy.. sorry but if 100 people are miving around regular yet 1 guy is moving around like he is in the matrix ziping in and out of range sorry its a hack.. you can also tell by using track you will se so many people about to die in Tg then in 3 seconds flat they are at the docks..</p><p>screen draging,,,, laging,,,, speed hacking all have 3 way differnt looks   laging a person seems to warp a tiny bit maybe 5-6 yards...   screen draging a person is warping in a circular motion and also back and forth alot up to 50-60 yards..   a speed hacker takes off like a rocket and if you look very close they dont warp back and forth they just take huge warps forwards....  you will also notice speed hackers even more if your in combat with them  or if you have a 62% runspeed mount yet the non bard ranger class catches up to you instaly...  heck im even noticing people turning there cheat engine 5.5 up so high that even with 2-3 snares on them they are still running at alteast 100-200 speed</p>

[Killque]

<p>I prefer not to elaborate on the "hack" aspect of this and concentrate on any legit ways this person could have moved at this speed. If we do in-fact decide that there is no possible explination other than it being a "hack" I will follow the advise of the mod above and report it to the proper people (GMs). At that point this thread can be locked (like it previously was) and we can continue on with our lives. I lobbied to get this thread unlocked so we could discuss the legit in game tactics that may have been used. To honor that I would appreciate if we could focus there. Failing that, we can lock the thread.</p><p>Thanks all.</p><p>Killque</p>

[Ahlana]

<p><cite>Killque wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I prefer not to elaborate on the "hack" aspect of this and concentrate on any legit ways this person could have moved at this speed. If we do in-fact decide that there is no possible explination other than it being a "hack" I will follow the advise of the mod above and report it to the proper people (GMs). At that point this thread can be locked (like it previously was) and we can continue on with our lives. I lobbied to get this thread unlocked so we could discuss the legit in game tactics that may have been used. To honor that I would appreciate if we could focus there. Failing that, we can lock the thread.</p><p>Thanks all.</p><p>Killque</p></blockquote><p>Might I suggest then. Delete the video out of the original post and simply ask "Is there anyway in game for someone once in combat to move at 90% runspeed during PVP?"</p><p>Otherwise this thread WILL be locked again, nothing in that video looks legit or laggy /shrug</p>

[Killque]

<p>The video is fine. There is no way I could fully illustrate my point without it.</p>

[Silverzx]

<p>only one way to counter it imo: run less</p>

[Novusod]

<p>Are you sure its' not gnomish crosstrainers + diamond rod.</p>

[BlueEternal]

<p>There was no crosstrainer icon on the 'warpers' buff bar.</p>

[Peak]

<p><a href="http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Gnomish_Spirits!">http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Gnomish_Spirits!</a></p><p>Good luck.</p>

[Killque]

<p><cite>Novusod wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Are you sure its' not gnomish crosstrainers + diamond rod.</p></blockquote><p>The chances of this guy having Diamond Rod are slim to none, but as mentioned I dont see the cross trainer buff either.</p>

[Killque]

<p><cite>Chords@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><a href="http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Gnomish_Spirits!">http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Gnomish_Spirits!</a></p><p>Good luck.</p></blockquote><p>Bravo. I do belive this is it as the dude is weaving (albiet slightly).</p><p>Thank you very much for this.</p><p>Gnomish Spirits!   This special gnomish drink replenishes power during non-combat situations, and increases run speed both in and out of combat. Side effects may be expected...        TREASURED  Level  0 Tier 0  Satiation  Superior  Duration  1 minute   Effects:  Increases Out-of-Combat Power Regeneration Per Tick of target by 18.0 Makes caster weave when they run Increases in-combat movement speed of caster by 80% Increases speed of caster by 80%  </p><p>Obtained: Reward from the quest "Tinkerfest Cheer" in Steamfont Mountains</p>