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Zarador
10-07-2008, 03:59 PM
Hoping that the wording of this thought comes out as understandable.Now, they determined that they needed reduce the experience required to level from 20-70 in order for people to catch up. Please don't argue that point here, since I said "They" and not "We" and since it's already been put into effect. Since up to level 70 there is a cap of 100 AA Points, it could be deemed that being 70 with 100 AA's is the "catch up point".With that thought in mind, would it be unreasonable to also reduce the requirements to get from say 30 AA to 100AA Points? Even (gasp) crediting those people who may have gained a few points were the new scale in place?  (Since, iusing their log files they can determine easily that you completed such and such quest on such and such date, they could in effect back-credit quests that now have AA that did not have AA back then). For some of us who have characters created at launch prior to all the AA changes, we find ourselves behind in a big way on the AA's.  Many of us have done quite a few quests that awarded no AA's and can't really go back to them. I'm not attempting to cause a flame or put the game in "Easy Mode" as some may think.  I just simply observed that my Necromancer, having done almost all the quests up to level 80 in RoK, as well as numerous Heritage Quests, tons of hours of mentoring friends and all but one Lore and Legend quest sits at 98 AA's while my Wizard sits at 128 AA's having done one heritage quest, 1/2 the amount of regular quests, about 1/3 of the amount of collections and maybe 3/4 the amount of Lore and Legend Quests. The Wizard started about two months ago.Just a simple observation looking for positive feedback. Since were heading into the new expansion with 200 AA's and my Necromancer will for short of that by 102 points while my wizard should breeze through it with no sweat.

Ocello
10-07-2008, 04:05 PM
I agree whole heartedly.  My mystic never got credit more some 400 quests she did prior to KoS or the 100 or so collections completed.  And at 80, she sits with 132 AA and praying that raiding will cap her out.  Maybe this mentoring AAxp change will help that out.  Let's hope I can remember all the places she missed aa for kills and whatnot.

Kizee
10-07-2008, 04:07 PM
You missed A TON of quests then if you are that far from AA cap....even if you were capped when AA's came out.You do realize that there has to be over 4000 quests in this game by now right?[edit] Quest leader on eq2 players = 4,635 quests. I think youdefinately missed a few if you arn't capped AA. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />

interstellarmatter
10-07-2008, 04:10 PM
<cite>Kizee wrote:</cite><blockquote>You missed A TON of quests then if you are that far from AA cap....even if you were capped when AA's came out.You do realize that there has to be over 4000 quests in this game by now right?</blockquote><p>You do realize that going back and doing grey quests is akin to going to the dentist office.</p><p>My SK leveled on his level quests back before AAs.  Now he's stuck with 51 AAs at level 62.  I'd like some sort of credit for all the HQs/quests that he did back during the day.</p><p>No, I don't want to mentor.  I want credit for work already done.</p>

Kizee
10-07-2008, 04:12 PM
<cite>interstellarmatter wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Kizee wrote:</cite><blockquote>You missed A TON of quests then if you are that far from AA cap....even if you were capped when AA's came out.You do realize that there has to be over 4000 quests in this game by now right?</blockquote><p>You do realize that going back and doing grey quests is akin to going to the dentist office.</p><p>My SK leveled on his level quests back before AAs.  Now he's stuck with 51 AAs at level 62.  I'd like some sort of credit for all the HQs/quests that he did back during the day.</p><p>No, I don't want to mentor.  I want credit for work already done.</p></blockquote>/shrugIt was worth it to cap my AA. I guess im more willing to do something dull to advance my character.All this is is another instant gradification post.

Zarador
10-07-2008, 04:15 PM
<cite>interstellarmatter wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Kizee wrote:</cite><blockquote>You missed A TON of quests then if you are that far from AA cap....even if you were capped when AA's came out.You do realize that there has to be over 4000 quests in this game by now right?</blockquote><p>You do realize that going back and doing grey quests is akin to going to the dentist office.</p><p>My SK leveled on his level quests back before AAs.  Now he's stuck with 51 AAs at level 62.  I'd like some sort of credit for all the HQs/quests that he did back during the day.</p><p>No, I don't want to mentor.  I want credit for work already done.</p></blockquote>Exactly my thoughts!I mean if "They" determined it was grueling to go from level 20-70 with the current game mechanisms (something I might add that few of us ever felt to be true); then how exciting is it to go through all the early quests again either mentored or totally trivialized?  I have a 66 Defiler with 50+ AA's as well, how much am I looking forward to getting his AA's up to snuff?

Dreadpatch
10-07-2008, 04:20 PM
One reason I haven't leveled up my 70 Guardian, He did a ton of quests, including many heritage quests. It was before he could get aa and there's no way for me to get it back. He's so behind in AA's it doesn't seem worth it to even level him. It's really sad actually. I know grey quests still give aa, but it's such a pitiful amount it's not even worth it.

Kizee
10-07-2008, 04:23 PM
<cite>Dreadpatch wrote:</cite><blockquote>One reason I haven't leveled up my 70 Guardian, He did a ton of quests, including many heritage quests. It was before he could get aa and there's no way for me to get it back. He's so behind in AA's it doesn't seem worth it to even level him. It's really sad actually. I know grey quests still give aa, but it's such a pitiful amount it's not even worth it.</blockquote>AA for quests is reletive to your AA level not adventure. If you do a low level quest that gives AA then you actually get significant movement in your AAs.

pandemonium73
10-07-2008, 04:30 PM
<cite>Kizee wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Dreadpatch wrote:</cite><blockquote>One reason I haven't leveled up my 70 Guardian, He did a ton of quests, including many heritage quests. It was before he could get aa and there's no way for me to get it back. He's so behind in AA's it doesn't seem worth it to even level him. It's really sad actually. I know grey quests still give aa, but it's such a pitiful amount it's not even worth it.</blockquote>AA for quests is reletive to your AA level not adventure. If you do a low level quest that gives AA then you actually get significant movement in your AAs.</blockquote>This is true, I was expecting like 1% per grey quest, but it was significantly more (can't remember an exact number, but I remember being pleasantly surprised.)

habby2
10-07-2008, 04:55 PM
I left the game fairly soon after KoS came out (was level 67 with 23 AA), and came back just before RoK was released.  I am now 80/140 and have been for a while, and I have hardly done any grey quests at all.  If you aren't able to get close, you haven't even come close to doing all of the quests available, as well as the fact is you mustn't do much killing because once you're 80, reg xp gets converted to AA.  It just seems like a small amount, but it does add up fairly quickly if you keep busy. (12 frog kills in Seb = 1% AA)

Zarador
10-07-2008, 04:58 PM
<cite>Kizee wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>interstellarmatter wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Kizee wrote:</cite><blockquote>You missed A TON of quests then if you are that far from AA cap....even if you were capped when AA's came out.You do realize that there has to be over 4000 quests in this game by now right?</blockquote><p>You do realize that going back and doing grey quests is akin to going to the dentist office.</p><p>My SK leveled on his level quests back before AAs.  Now he's stuck with 51 AAs at level 62.  I'd like some sort of credit for all the HQs/quests that he did back during the day.</p><p>No, I don't want to mentor.  I want credit for work already done.</p></blockquote>/shrugIt was worth it to cap my AA. I guess im more willing to do something dull to advance my character.All this is is another instant gradification post.</blockquote>Respectfully, if you read my post, I mentioned that this is the character I created at game launch.  I completed a large amount of quests, lore and legends, collections, heritage quests and the like.  Far more than my "Instant Gratification Wizard" has ever achieved, yet he is far behind the eight ball. I guess my necromancer experienced a few years of nothing but instant gratification.  Basically, at 98 AA's with almost all the RoK quests that I can do (small group/duo, I don't raid), almost all the content/quests from sinking sands to Bonmire completed, all the writs I can get for my character, I'll be starting out the expansion having to catch up (fill in) AA's. With no disrespect or whine intended, I'm just seeing a double standard here.  No one could possibly expect a new character to have to actually level one minute more than they could stand in a zone designed for their tier, but going back and doing a few hundred hours of grey quests and trivial content is just fine if you created a character a few years ago and actually hit most the content. The funny thing is, I choose solo/duo characters most the time because I enjoy seeing how far I can push the limits on my own.  That's just the way I enjoy playing.  Sending my pet in to kill hundreds of greys with no risk really has little appeal.  Yes, I can still mentor meaning that killing 100 mobs while mentoring a new player will now only take 33 mobs...well...wait, that will mean they outlevel the zone too quickly.  It only took us 30 minutes last night to gain 4 levels in Wailing Caves.

Kizee
10-07-2008, 05:08 PM
<cite>Zarador wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Kizee wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>interstellarmatter wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Kizee wrote:</cite><blockquote>You missed A TON of quests then if you are that far from AA cap....even if you were capped when AA's came out.You do realize that there has to be over 4000 quests in this game by now right?</blockquote><p>You do realize that going back and doing grey quests is akin to going to the dentist office.</p><p>My SK leveled on his level quests back before AAs.  Now he's stuck with 51 AAs at level 62.  I'd like some sort of credit for all the HQs/quests that he did back during the day.</p><p>No, I don't want to mentor.  I want credit for work already done.</p></blockquote>/shrugIt was worth it to cap my AA. I guess im more willing to do something dull to advance my character.All this is is another instant gradification post.</blockquote>Respectfully, if you read my post, I mentioned that this is the character I created at game launch.  I completed a large amount of quests, lore and legends, collections, heritage quests and the like.  Far more than my "Instant Gratification Wizard" has ever achieved, yet he is far behind the eight ball. I guess my necromancer experienced a few years of nothing but instant gratification.  Basically, at 98 AA's with almost all the RoK quests that I can do (small group/duo, I don't raid), almost all the content/quests from sinking sands to Bonmire completed, all the writs I can get for my character, I'll be starting out the expansion having to catch up (fill in) AA's. With no disrespect or whine intended, I'm just seeing a double standard here.  No one could possibly expect a new character to have to actually level one minute more than they could stand in a zone designed for their tier, but going back and doing a few hundred hours of grey quests and trivial content is just fine if you created a character a few years ago and actually hit most the content. The funny thing is, I choose solo/duo characters most the time because I enjoy seeing how far I can push the limits on my own.  That's just the way I enjoy playing.  Sending my pet in to kill hundreds of greys with no risk really has little appeal.  Yes, I can still mentor meaning that killing 100 mobs while mentoring a new player will now only take 33 mobs...well...wait, that will mean they outlevel the zone too quickly.  It only took us 30 minutes last night to gain 4 levels in Wailing Caves. </blockquote>The reason I have no sympathy is because my templar was capped with alot of quests finished when they released AA's and had no problem getting to the cap. You just need to go back to the old content and do the quests you missed (will be easy since they put in the gray quest feathers)

Zarador
10-07-2008, 05:33 PM
Actually, having thought about it more, the problem will correct itself anyway in a few months.  I figure once all the characters that get the faster leveling hit the cap way behind in AA's because they simply plowed through the levels, they will "fix" the problem. I guess my point about having to go back and do a lot of grey content while others are being pushed through so they don't have to experience challenging content was lost. So be it.

Rast
10-07-2008, 05:49 PM
I was in my early 50's before I got my first AA and I can still remember running around PoF with only 5 or 6 (I remember I got several the day EoF came out).  I'm 80/127 (almost 12<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> now and I'm fine.  I help guildies and hit some quests I didn't hit before, I get a little here, a little there.  Still have some group quests for city of mist.  I don't think there will be much of an issue getting them tbh.  Especially with the bonus to mentored AA.

Red_Rider
10-07-2008, 06:01 PM
<cite>interstellarmatter wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Kizee wrote:</cite><p>No, I don't want to mentor.  I want credit for work already done.</p></blockquote>   You didn't work, you played a game and were rewarded as the rules were when you played.  Things changred and they have put in the grey quest xp and mentoring system to permit you to catch up.  Use the tools provided.