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Brawl_Kithicor
09-25-2008, 04:43 AM
<p>I personally Play a knight (SK ..feel free to boo if you want too)</p><p>I Love the Concept of a Dark knight wielding a Huge 2her into battle</p><p>However to do this in any MMoRPG has serveral setbacks, so much to make using it as you main choice only reliable when doing easy content.. and on easy content the shield and sword do just as well, or when grouping and not taking hits... cause we all know how often a group with a better tank loves to invite us SKs for our uber dps /sarcasm off.</p><p>I can understand the lack of protection to a point, However why couldnt a lower protection figure be placed on 2hers, maybe 50% of that of a shield of the same quality/tier.. I mean after all a hugh blade had a chance to block a swing too</p><p>Also the shield only bash that knocks down?.. well another reason not to use a 2her.. everquest 1 offered 2hbash as an aa choice... and heres the point im getting to</p><p>I love to solo, I chose a knight because its what I like to play.. I fully realise that we are about the bottom of the list in soloing at higher end, Im 44 now and doing ok but im sure I wont be soloing the difficulty in mobs I am now as I level and marginaly increasein power .. and the mobs get a big boost</p><p>Would it not be possible to add a spec. or quest lines etc to allow us who want to use a 2her make it worth using?</p><p>Im not asking for equal protection as shield... but could there not be a way to bridge the gap a little closer? After all its not like the trade off for the marginal dps increase is worth the current losses with a shield.</p><p>Dont make it free, Heck make it an aa "choice" for those of us who want it.... or make a quest line that involves using the 2her in order to learn to block / 2hbash with it.. .. or make it a bought choice...pay a couple plat to a master of 2handed weapons npc to learn these skills...ofcourse the block rate / protection wouldnt be equal to a shield but would be nice to help close the gap and allow us who want to use the 2her to not be so penalized</p><p>Lets weigh the pros and cons as they stand</p><p><u>Shield and sword combo</u> --<b>Pros</b>-- Protection /blocking .. More stats and mod options equipping 2 items instead of one..an extra knockdown to use against the enemy... --<b>Cons</b>-- slightly less dps, faster delay makes timing combat arts/spells inbetween swings more challenging ... however this con can be easily rectified by selecting one of the many 1hers that have 4-6delay.. so we are really only left with the "slightly less dps from autoattacks</p><p><u>Two Handed</u> --<b>Pros</b>-- little more dps from auto attacks --<b>Cons</b>-- alot less protection, no chance to block...Less stats from equipping one item...Loss of bash knockdown</p><p>I Love eq2...there isnt another game out there id rather play... but its just frusterating in a game like this that allows for so much customization. the balance is so far swung in favor of the sword/board that it makes 2her useless except for farming crap.</p><p>And before anyone breaks out with "well in real life a shield...ect" ... In real life we dont cast spells, we dont return instantly upon death ... this is a fantasy game.. </p><p>Anyways opinions vary... But personally If i could ask a request it would be to add a small amount of protection/block chance ....and the ability to bash 2 handed so we dont have to lose the kockdown... heck make it a no dmg bash for all I care. </p><p>Thanks for your consideration</p><p>Jay</p>

TheSpin
09-25-2008, 06:45 AM
<p>I don't completely disagree with you, but I think there is quite a bit more damage from the right 2 hander than you'll get with a 1 hander.  If you get a nice slow 2 hander you might notice a bigger difference as well.  I also think that ripposte damage is another pro of using a 2 hander since you'd ripposte for a lot more with the 2 hander.</p>

kling3r
09-25-2008, 07:39 AM
are you in any way related to: sexual harassment....... panda?

aardda
09-25-2008, 07:55 AM
<p>what i do on my sk is carry both 1-handed/shield and a 2-handed sword.</p><p>when i'm soloing and not going for anything overly difficult i use my 2-handed sword, if i join a group and am expected to tank i switch to using a shield.</p><p>as a shadowknight you should be using a slow 2-handed weapon if you're trying to do decent dps (well as decent as a sk is capable of). many of the sk abilities are spells that have a second or two casting time, the thing to note is your autoattack doesn't go off while in the middle of casting.</p><p>to do better you should try and time your spells/combat arts in between autoattack swings.. and obviously the longer delay your weapon has the easier this is to do.</p>

Brawl_Kithicor
09-25-2008, 11:54 PM
<cite>aarddave wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>what i do on my sk is carry both 1-handed/shield and a 2-handed sword.</p><p><b>Yeah thats also what I do. a shield when grouping is a must, however the shield benefits soloing more aswell making the 2her a fun toy not a viable method too ill explain below</b></p><p>when i'm soloing and not going for anything overly difficult i use my 2-handed sword, if i join a group and am expected to tank i switch to using a shield.</p><p><b>Unless its with good friends when i join a group if a stronger tank comes along they dont want to keep the sk around for his dps, much better for the group to sub me out for a dps class ....Unless they are being charitable </b></p><p><u>as a shadowknight you should be using a slow 2-handed weapon if you're trying to do decent dps (well as decent as a sk is capable of).</u> <u>many of the sk abilities are spells that have a second or two casting time, the thing to note is your autoattack doesn't go off while in the middle of casting.</u></p><p><u>to do better you should try and time your spells/combat arts in between autoattack swings.. and obviously the longer delay your weapon has the easier this is to do</u>.</p><p><b>You do realise that alot of the one handers (long sword, karabella ect) have the same slow delay as a 2her.. allowing the same timing between swings without the loss of, protection, blocking, knockdown, and additional stats from using a 2her.. and as a shadowknight the majority of our dps comes from our spells rather than our melee (as compared to paladins) which is why we go for as much spell crit % and + spell dmg as possible... Ive soloed the same named ...(the ugly fella swimming in the pond outside of runnyeye) at level 44 a few times with each sword and board and 2her... I picked him because hes a good mix of spell and melee dmg incoming to me.. and he was not and easy fight being a level 39^^^</b></p><p><b>I was able to kill him with either, however this is important to note</b></p><p><b>It took me just as long with my MC ebon 2her as it did with my sword and shield to kill him - so the 2hs dps didnt pull me ahead in kill speed</b></p><p><b>however.. when using the 2her I took alot more dmg... heck id say 2x the dmg I often ended that fight near dead myself</b></p><p><b>with sword and board.. using the same technique (cas/spells between swings) I killed him just as fast and took alot less dmg, I could block, had more protection. could use my shield bash to stun him+ adds dmg) and had better stats for the fight</b></p></blockquote><p>Thank you all for the replies, I put my replies to your post in bold above aardave</p><p>It just seems like for all that you lose to grab 10% more actual dps from the 2her.. if your math tells you its more... try parsing for yourself.. in theory it should be by the figures produced but its not</p><p>to balace this I made some suggestions above, but heres another suggestion (The %'s are theoretical below and jut used to explain my thoughts on the matter)</p><p>If using sword and board offers 40% more protection (please consider not only the dmg delay ratio but also the dmg your not taking every time you shield bash and the increased resists mods etc offered with a shield/sword combo)</p><p>Than the 2 handed setup of same tier/quality should offer 40% more dps an even tradeoff</p><p>Because as it stands now as much as I would like to be the 2h knight. there is no reason for it... I can kill easy mobs just as easy with my shield and sword... If i group I use my shield and sword</p><p>I just wish they would do something to make 2hers stand out more and viable, rather than a toy used against crap mobs</p><p>Just my opionion, everyone has one and yours has a right to be different <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Thank you for all the replies</p><p>Jay</p>