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SugarGirl
07-18-2008, 08:24 AM
<p>I searched the forums and didn't see any posts on this anywhere.</p><p>I picked up my carotid cutter on my Dirge a bit ago and was surprised to see that the Magic Damage proc on it was only 35 hp! I had assumed that with nearly 700 INT, the proc would be much higher than this. </p><p> On further investigation, I realized that the proc damage was being determined by WIS instead of INT. Is this a bug, or is it working as intended. It seems silly to have the proc damage based on WIS, as this is not inline with any other proc for a piercer that I am aware of.</p><p> I'm pretty sure that this is a bug. I've sent /feedback and /bug in game, but haven't heard a response. Does anyone know if this has been addressed anywhere? This would be such a nice weapon if the proc was working right.</p><p>Thanks </p>

Fyreflyte
07-18-2008, 03:55 PM
Int is affecting the damage for me, not wis. Anyone else experiencing the problem described in the first post?

Jida
07-18-2008, 04:18 PM
<cite>SugarGirl wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I searched the forums and didn't see any posts on this anywhere.</p><p>I picked up my carotid cutter on my Dirge a bit ago and was surprised to see that the Magic Damage proc on it was only 35 hp! I had assumed that with nearly 700 INT, the proc would be much higher than this. </p><p> On further investigation, I realized that the proc damage was being determined by WIS instead of INT. Is this a bug, or is it working as intended. It seems silly to have the proc damage based on WIS, as this is not inline with any other proc for a piercer that I am aware of.</p><p> I'm pretty sure that this is a bug. I've sent /feedback and /bug in game, but haven't heard a response. Does anyone know if this has been addressed anywhere? This would be such a nice weapon if the proc was working right.</p><p>Thanks </p></blockquote>Whats your spell crit?

Dreadpatch
07-18-2008, 04:25 PM
It is in fact a wisdom based proc on the carotid, my proc damage is lamentable at about 35 points of damage. I just assumed it's because carotid was so powerful already for non-raid loot.As my swashy doesn't concentrate on wis, the proc on the weapon is pretty much useless. It's still pretty bad aarrse tho, so I'm not complaining.If you fixed the proc to say int, I think I would love you forever.

Geothe
07-18-2008, 04:30 PM
<p>eh</p><p>I always just assumed the proc on it was just totaly worthless. lolNever thought about it being affected by wis instead of int.. which could explain it.still is a really weak proc though.</p>

Raidyen
07-18-2008, 06:12 PM
Yeah it seems to be wisdom based.  I have a laughable 35 wisdom, and its proc is 29 points of dmg.  I have 180 int, and the dmg doesnt move when i take off my int gear.

SugarGirl
07-19-2008, 04:00 AM
<cite>Fyreflyte wrote:</cite><blockquote>Int is affecting the damage for me, not wis. Anyone else experiencing the problem described in the first post?</blockquote><p>Thanks for the response Fyreflyte. I've double-checked this several times and it is most definitely WIS. My WIS is at 59 and my proc is at 30. Unequipping my INT buff and gear does not affect the proc; however, when I buff my Wisdon, the proc damage raises. It lloks as if I am not the only person experiencing this. I'm surprised no one else has brought it up sooner.</p><p>Thanks again. If you fix this one, you can have my first born child and my prized collection of stale Oreo's!</p><p><img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

Fyreflyte
07-21-2008, 02:20 PM
Well to tell the truth, proc damage based on a stat is hardcoded to use int. There's no designer setting that allows us to change that to anything but str. The reson you're not seeing a change in damage by removing int gear may be because you don't have enough of it. I had to modify my int by several hundred to see a change in the proc damage. Modifying my wisdom did nothing at all to it.What class were you running the tests with, and did you have any AAs or abilities that may have been affecting the damage? Did any of the wis gear you were removing also have +spell damage (particularly base% damage) on it?

BiggiEQ2
07-21-2008, 02:33 PM
not done any tests but just thought i'd chip in my thoughts. and those thoughts are that yes, i agree with someone above me, the proc is a pitiful 30ish as the actual weapon is pretty hardcore for non-raid loot. then i did wonder why it even had a proc of such meaningless value. out of curiosity Fyreflyte, how much is your proc on your carrotcutter showing for? btw ive only got about 300 INT

Trojenn
07-21-2008, 05:36 PM
I can get my INT up to around 800 with Mage Buffs, and Flash of Brialance.. The max I have seen the damage on the proc was 72. I did not however check the Wisdom belief of this weapon. I will check it tonight.

Fyreflyte
07-22-2008, 12:35 AM
<cite>BiggiEQ2 wrote:</cite><blockquote>not done any tests but just thought i'd chip in my thoughts. and those thoughts are that yes, i agree with someone above me, the proc is a pitiful 30ish as the actual weapon is pretty hardcore for non-raid loot. then i did wonder why it even had a proc of such meaningless value. out of curiosity Fyreflyte, how much is your proc on your carrotcutter showing for? btw ive only got about 300 INT</blockquote>When I tested it, it was somewhere around 35/tick with 500ish int (if I remember correctly). I think it was ~29/tick with 100ish int. I did not create the item or the proc, so I can't speak as to its intended power. Given that so many use the weapon anyway, it appears balanced to me.

SugarGirl
07-22-2008, 12:44 AM
<cite>Fyreflyte wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>BiggiEQ2 wrote:</cite><blockquote>not done any tests but just thought i'd chip in my thoughts.and those thoughts are that yes, i agree with someone above me, the proc is a pitiful 30ish as the actual weapon is pretty hardcore for non-raid loot. then i did wonder why it even had a proc of such meaningless value.out of curiosity Fyreflyte, how much is your proc on your carrotcutter showing for?btw ive only got about 300 INT</blockquote>When I tested it, it was somewhere around 35/tick with 500ish int (if I remember correctly). I think it was ~29/tick with 100ish int. I did not create the item or the proc, so I can't speak as to its intended power. Given that so many use the weapon anyway, it appears balanced to me.</blockquote>I'll check again. It is possible that my INT increased when I boosted my WIS and I didn't notice. I'm working nights right now and can't log on, but I will try to get some hard numbers and screenies for you in the AM. Thanks for looking into it and responding Fyreflyte.

BiggiEQ2
07-23-2008, 04:14 PM
i agree it's balanced deffo, just confuddled at such small proc damage. i'm not asking for a boost by any means, i'd just like to hear what the guy or gal who decided on the proc has to say about it. just strange i guess (but strange peopel are good people!)

Trojenn
07-23-2008, 04:41 PM
<p>Tested the theory of it being a Wis based proc and results..</p><p>INT : 250</p><p>WIS : 100 </p><p>Proc Damage was 51</p><p>INT : 215</p><p>WIS : 400</p><p> Proc Damage was 58</p><p>INT : 789</p><p>WIS : 112</p><p>Proc Damage was 69</p><p>So in my test i resolved that WIS did have a slight effect on the damage of the proc but in all INT seemed to effect the proc more. </p><p>And like stated above I would like to know why the Proc was applied to be this low. I have no issues with it bein low.. just curiouse why. Its almost negligable anyways.</p>