Return of Rodcet Nife and the void invades as part of world event in update 45

[irish]

<p>Its mentioned in the sneak preview on the french language version of Eq2players for update 45. So looks like the story going to progress before expansion.</p>

[Cusashorn]

Finally. As long as we finally get some progress on this stupid storyline, I have no problem with it.

[roces9]

Any facts to back this up?

[DMIstar]

from EQ2players.com .... --------------------Les banques de votre personnage sont maintenant plus larges par 4 cases. Vous pouvez maintenant partager des objets et de l'argent entre les personnages d'alignement bon et mauvais en utilisant la nouvelle, plus large et amélioré banque partageable. Que cela signifie-t-il pour vous ? Cela signifie que vous aurez des banques à partager entre Port Franc et Qeynos (le bien et le mal) sur les serveurs PvEs. Sur les serveurs PvPs vous recevrez 4 pièces de cases supplémentaires dans votre banque mais sur ces serveurs-là, sachez que vous ne pouvez pas partager entre alignements. Les quêtes grises de niveau 10 et plus vont maintenant accorder de l'expérience d'aventure et de l'exploit. Vous aurez plus de bénéfices si vous faites des quêtes grises. Les armes faites par un maître artisan ont été retravaillées de nouveau. Bonne nouvelle pour tous les maîtres artisans, toutes leurs armes seront refaites, ils le méritaient bien. Les armes artisanales n'auront pas le niveau d'armes de « raid loot » mais seront recherchées par les joueurs jusqu'à ce qu'ils puissent mettre à jour leurs matériels avec du butin de raid. Les quatre principaux types de remèdes ont été combinés en un seul pour que les clercs n'aient plus à jongler avec les remèdes. Bonne nouvelle pour les clercs! <b>L'événement de Rodcet Nife sera en live avec la mise a jour 45. Un mystère volontaire entoure cet événement et tous les suivants seront de plus en plus impressionnants menant vers des invasions de grande envergure des créatures du Vide à travers le monde pour toutes les niveaux.</b>--------Rough Translation: ----------------------------------------The banks of your personage are now more wide by 4 put. You now can divide objects and money between the personages of good and bad line while using the new one, wider and more improved sharable bank. What that does it mean for you? That means that you will have banks to divide between Frank Harbor and Qeynos (the good and the evil) on the waiters PvEs. On the waiters PvPs will receive you 4 pieces of put additional in your bank but on those waiters, know that you cannot divide between lines. The gray quests of level 10 and now will grant experience of adventure and exploit. You will have more profits if you done the gray quests. The weapons done by a master craftsman were reworked again. New good for all the masters craftsmen, all their weapons will be remade, they deserved it well. The hand-crafted weapons will not have the level of weapons of "raid loot" but will be looked for by the players until they can update their equipment with loot of raid. The four principal types of remedies were combined in a single one for that the clerk no longer have to juggle with the remedies. New good for the clerk! <b>The event of Rodcet Nife will be in live with the placement has day 45. A voluntary mystery surrounds this event and all the following ones will be more and more impressive taking towards invasions of big breadth of the creatures of Emptiness through the world for all the levels.</b> ---------------------------------It is on the official site ...

[Clowd]

Linkage here: <a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/news_archive_content.vm?id=1214&section=Community&locale=fr_FR" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://eq2players.station.sony.com/...mp;locale=fr_FR</a>"L'événement de Rodcet Nife sera en live avec la mise a jour 45.Un mystère volontaire entoure cet événement et tous les suivants seront de plus en plus impressionnants menant vers des invasions de grande envergure des créatures du Vide à travers le monde pour toutes les niveaux."babel fish translation (Bolded points of interest):"The event of<b> Rodcet Nife will be into live with the update 45</b>. A voluntary mystery surrounds this event and all the following will be increasingly impressive carrying out towards i<b>nvasions</b> of great scale of the <b>creatures of the Vacuum</b> throughout the world for <b>all the levels</b>."

[ShadowplayDarkstar]

<p>what if oddysey is in fact a new moon that has so far remained hidden.</p><p> but more to the point....i think oddysey is neither a place or an adventure....i think it is in fact...the name of  a SHIP.</p><p>it ties into the mudskipper story....what if  it is in fact  either the ship you have to take to get to the void   OR  the name of a great flying ship the shissar or whomever use to invade Norrath...thus its shadow over the land. I doubt they would name it that though unless it was the name of the ship we must take to reach new places.</p>

[KniteShayd]

My Wood Elf Templar just wet himself...

[Mirander_1]

<cite>Bandorn@Venekor wrote:</cite><blockquote>My Wood Elf Templar just wet himself...</blockquote>As I'm sure every good-aligned priest player in the game will... <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[roces9]

<cite>Istar@Mistmoore wrote:</cite><blockquote><b>The event of Rodcet Nife will be in live with the placement has day 45. A voluntary mystery surrounds this event and all the following ones will be more and more impressive taking towards invasions of big breadth of the creatures of Emptiness through the world for all the levels.</b> </blockquote>Google Translate FTW!!But in all seriousness, I have resigned my skepticality.

[Naubeta]

"<span class="postbody"><b>Frank Harbor</b> and Qeynos"That's just great <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></span>

[Apocroph]

An item of interest:The text about Rodcet Nife isn't on that page anymore.  Somebody spilled the beans too soon.

[Wilin]

Saw that coming...

[Kindayr]

<p>It may not be in the preview, but its live on test</p><p>new quests in NQ at the temple of life</p><p>a new plague a choosing a side between the Celestial Watch and the Plaguebringer</p>

[Ujina]

haha French admin spilled the bean, so the next expansion is about void creatures <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Chips]

<cite>Naubitzi@Crushbone wrote:</cite><blockquote>"<span class="postbody"><b>Frank Harbor</b> and Qeynos"That's just great <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" width="15" height="15" /></span></blockquote>sooo, someone spilled the beans on Frank Harbor and Qeynos .......frank and beans , frank and beans ....i wonder ?

[Wilin]

<p>So are we going to see a repeat of what happened on Prime?</p><p>Basically, sickness spreads across the planet and people start turning into nightbloods.</p>

[Cusashorn]

<cite>Wilin wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>So are we going to see a repeat of what happened on Prime?</p><p>Basically, sickness spreads across the planet and people start turning into nightbloods.</p></blockquote><p>Probably not. it'll probably just be another plague like in February of 2005.</p><p>I don't think Bertoxxulous values the Shadowmen very much. This is a showdown between Nife and Bert.</p>

[Wilin]

<cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Wilin wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>So are we going to see a repeat of what happened on Prime?</p><p>Basically, sickness spreads across the planet and people start turning into nightbloods.</p></blockquote><p>Probably not. it'll probably just be another plague like in February of 2005.</p><p>I don't think Bertoxxulous values the Shadowmen very much. This is a showdown between Nife and Bert.</p></blockquote><p>/facetious</p><p>Ah, but Nife and Bert were both on Prime when that sickness spread. Scientists have proven it to be true. Anagrams FTW.</p><p>/facetious off</p><p><img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Edit: Of course, there's this bit from the Testing forum too.</p><p><cite>Kaitheel wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Nope.  </p><p>When you log onto the test server you will find that the event is definitely not like the plague previously experienced, nor is it referring to the Hate event which was causing NPCs to fight in the streets, (That event is over with GU 45).</p></blockquote>

[GlitterPaws]

Okay my interpretation skills are down....who the heck are the waiters in this translation?

[Cusashorn]

<cite>Wilin wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Wilin wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>So are we going to see a repeat of what happened on Prime?</p><p>Basically, sickness spreads across the planet and people start turning into nightbloods.</p></blockquote><p>Probably not. it'll probably just be another plague like in February of 2005.</p><p>I don't think Bertoxxulous values the Shadowmen very much. This is a showdown between Nife and Bert.</p></blockquote><p>/facetious</p><p>Ah, but Nife and Bert were both on Prime when that sickness spread. Scientists have proven it to be true. Anagrams FTW.</p><p>/facetious off</p></blockquote>I will concede that you are right ONLY WHEN Rodcet Nife and Bertoxxulous themselves state that they were on Prime. You are only basing a loosely associated and spelled anagram from the ramblings of some drunk bard from another planet as your only evidence on this. Where in the stories do these two characters ever show divine powers that prove who they are?

[Apocroph]

<cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite></cite>I will concede that you are right ONLY WHEN Rodcet Nife and Bertoxxulous themselves state that they were on Prime. You are only basing a loosely associated and spelled anagram from the ramblings of some drunk bard from another planet as your only evidence on this. Where in the stories do these two characters ever show divine powers that prove who they are?</blockquote>Some might call a miracle cure-all pretty divine.  I know I would, provided it worked.

[Arkast]

<cite>GlitterPaws wrote:</cite><blockquote>Okay my interpretation skills are down....who the heck are the waiters in this translation?</blockquote>Servers, clearly. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Kindayr]

<p>Wasn't the cure they were talking Dr. Effin had cured the itch? hmm?Well my friends and people on Test say that characters in NQ and SQ are complaining of itchiness.Sorry Cusa <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I think Rememberance: Prime and Dr. Effin and Dr. Occulous is looking to be, in fact, Nife and Bert.</p>

[Zabjade]

<span style="color: #00cc00;">I don't know if we will see a repeat or not, of the first prime healer, some of the dialog that the Seer says has me wondering, about Rodcet's supposed desire for all life, I won't say anything else as it is spoiler.</span>

[Wilin]

<cite>Kindayr wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Wasn't the cure they were talking Dr. Effin had cured the itch? hmm?Well my friends and people on Test say that characters in NQ and SQ are complaining of itchiness.Sorry Cusa <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" width="15" height="15" /> I think Rememberance: Prime and Dr. Effin and Dr. Occulous is looking to be, in fact, Nife and Bert.</p></blockquote><p>If you believe the anagram association, then Nife invented a "mirale" cure for all illnesses. But, a strange illness started spreading amongst the people of Prime that slowly changed them into nightbloods(based on the physical description). nife says he has no idea where the illness came from but he will travel as far as he needs to go in order to find a cure. Meanwhile, Bert accuses Nife's "miracle" cure of causing the new illness because it ultimately corrupts the body. Bert mentions that his cure should have been taken instead.</p><p>There's no mention of itchiness in Remembrances: Prime. <a href="http://www.lorelibrary.com/?page=book&bid=199" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.lorelibrary.com/?page=book&bid=199</a></p>

[Wilde_Night]

There is still the conspiracy that maybe the banished Ashanti Sul became the Goddess of the Void and being she was the original Prime Healer, she could be jealous and spreading this uncurable illness that transforms the infected into her minions.

[Apocroph]

Or perhaps the forbidden two from Zebuxoruk's prophecy are in fact Bertoxxulous and Rodcet Nife.  A stretch, I know, but given the way the three of them seem so intertwined...

[Wilin]

<p>I'm seeing another Zeb prophesy that *might* fit based on what I read on the test server surrounding the event.</p><p>"5. In the guise of harmony the mirror is flipped and chaos walks among us."</p>

[Gukkor2]

<cite>kuraan wrote:</cite><blockquote>Or perhaps the forbidden two from Zebuxoruk's prophecy are in fact Bertoxxulous and Rodcet Nife.  A stretch, I know, but given the way the three of them seem so intertwined...</blockquote>How is Zebuxoruk intertwined with Rodcet Nife and Bertoxxulous?

[Coniaric]

<cite>Gukkor2 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>kuraan wrote:</cite><blockquote>Or perhaps the forbidden two from Zebuxoruk's prophecy are in fact Bertoxxulous and Rodcet Nife.  A stretch, I know, but given the way the three of them seem so intertwined...</blockquote>How is Zebuxoruk intertwined with Rodcet Nife and Bertoxxulous?</blockquote>I think he meant Anashti Sul, Rodect Nife, and Bertoxxolous.

[Gukkor2]

<cite>Coniaric wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Gukkor2 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>kuraan wrote:</cite><blockquote>Or perhaps the forbidden two from Zebuxoruk's prophecy are in fact Bertoxxulous and Rodcet Nife.  A stretch, I know, but given the way the three of them seem so intertwined...</blockquote>How is Zebuxoruk intertwined with Rodcet Nife and Bertoxxulous?</blockquote>I think he meant Anashti Sul, Rodect Nife, and Bertoxxolous.</blockquote>Ah, that makes more sense.

[Sartredes]

I wonder if the leper colony in the northern Commonlands and the Springview Healers will play any expanded role in the return of Rodcet Nife.  The couple of low level quests that happen there involving Springview Healer Hanif seemed to allude to the return of Bertoxxulous  but so far that was just left hanging.

[Apocroph]

I can't help but be reminded of an episode of The Simpsons with all this... I keep seeing this scenario playing out like the "Publisher's Clearie-Dealie" scam that Bart, Homer and Grandpa pulled on the people at the Retirement Home.Dr. Rodger Effin: Bart!Dr. Bartholomew Oculus: Yeah, Rodger?Effin: You unleash a disease, I'll pretend to have the cure, and when all these suckers are taking it, Anashti jumps in and wrecks the place!  It's perfect!

[Kindayr]

<p>My apologies, for some reason i read the Panacea Cure as the Cure for the Itch, and that's why i put two and two together. Again, my apologies <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Gukkor2]

<cite>Kindayr wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>My apologies, for some reason i read the Panacea Cure as the Cure for the Itch, and that's why i put two and two together. Again, my apologies <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" width="15" height="15" /></p></blockquote>Someone did refer to it as a "cure for the itch," but I'm pretty sure they meant it as a figure of speech.  In other words, it's such an effective cure, it could even cure the itch.

[Wilin]

<cite>Kindayr wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>My apologies, for some reason i read the Panacea Cure as the Cure for the Itch, and that's why i put two and two together. Again, my apologies <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" width="15" height="15" /></p></blockquote><p>The other common thing about a panacea cure is that it's not only a miracle cure for all ailments, but it also prolongs life indefinitely(ie you can die from a wound, but not from illness or age)</p><p>I don't know if that aspect of a panacea cure was intended on Prime or not. But, if it was, then the inhabitants of Prime were all essentially immortals. And if Anagrammed-Nife(tm) created a path to immortality for the inhabitants, then he essentially accomplished what Anashti-Sul failed to do on Norrath. (reference Ewer of Sul'Dae) But then the obelisks arrived and the inhabitants got sick and turned into nightbloods.</p><p>The whole Prime Healer shoots for immortality and creates undeath and is replaced by new Prime Healer who creates immortality seems compelling. And what if Anagrammed-Bert(tm) is actually correct in saying that Anagrammed-Nife's panacea cure caused the corruption?</p><p>Some interesting things buried in there somewhere...</p>

[Wilin]

BTW, I did the new quest at the Celestial Watch on Test. It seems to almost, but not quite, confirm what alot of us thought about the Temple of Life. Check it out for yourself. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[FreaklyCreak]

<cite>Wilin wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Kindayr wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>My apologies, for some reason i read the Panacea Cure as the Cure for the Itch, and that's why i put two and two together. Again, my apologies <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img mce_tsrc=" />" width="15" height="15" /></p></blockquote><p>The other common thing about a panacea cure is that it's not only a miracle cure for all ailments, but it also prolongs life indefinitely(ie you can die from a wound, but not from illness or age)</p><p>I don't know if that aspect of a panacea cure was intended on Prime or not. But, if it was, then the inhabitants of Prime were all essentially immortals. And if Anagrammed-Nife(tm) created a path to immortality for the inhabitants, then he essentially accomplished what Anashti-Sul failed to do on Norrath. (reference Ewer of Sul'Dae) But then the obelisks arrived and the inhabitants got sick and turned into nightbloods.</p><p>The whole Prime Healer shoots for immortality and creates undeath and is replaced by new Prime Healer who creates immortality seems compelling. And what if Anagrammed-Bert(tm) is actually correct in saying that Anagrammed-Nife's panacea cure caused the corruption?</p><p>Some interesting things buried in there somewhere...</p></blockquote>I like that theory about Anagrammed-Bert being correct about the panacea cure causing corruption, even if it's wrong. But also it's kinda hard to imagine that a disease ment to cure everything actually turned them into Nihilistic beings that were super intelligent. I say super intelligent because we have yet to see anyone else traveling to other worlds, though using dimensional portals seem to be nothing to un-common.

[Yindari]

<span class="postbody">Frank Harbor made me laugh a little, not sure why it translated it as that. I speak Italian fluently and a Porto Franco is a Free port, ie. no taxes on items traded in the port. I have never herd of a Frank port or harbor used in English though.</span>

[Gukkor2]

<cite>Wilin wrote:</cite><blockquote>BTW, I did the new quest at the Celestial Watch on Test. It seems to almost, but not quite, confirm what alot of us thought about the Temple of Life. Check it out for yourself. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" width="15" height="15" /></blockquote>What did a lot of us think about the Temple of Life?

[teddyboy4]

<cite>Gukkor2 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Wilin wrote:</cite><blockquote>BTW, I did the new quest at the Celestial Watch on Test. It seems to almost, but not quite, confirm what alot of us thought about the Temple of Life. Check it out for yourself. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img mce_tsrc=" />" width="15" height="15" /></blockquote>What did a lot of us think about the Temple of Life?</blockquote>That it's the ship that Rodcet Niffe came to Norrath in

[Vanisher123]

So will these quests be like the hate ones where anyone can do either if they can sneak in(but not both).

[Cusashorn]

<cite>Vanisher123 wrote:</cite><blockquote>So will these quests be like the hate ones where anyone can do either if they can sneak in(but not both).</blockquote>Wait, what? The evil version of the Hate Plane quest can be done by both good and evil players?

[Lodrelhai]

Sure it can!  As long as they're at least lvl 65, have stealth/invis, are very quick and careful and just a bit lucky with guard patrols while they're talking/harvesting...

[Cusashorn]

Good. Sounds right up my alley. I always enjoy doing more quests.

[Apocroph]

I vaguely recall seeing posts about completing one side's quest locking you out of the other side's, Cusa.  I don't know personally, but don't get your hopes up too high just yet.

[Lodrelhai]

Sorry if I caused any confusion, my comments were a somewhat sarcastic view on how a good-aligned character (or an exile) could still do the evil version of the SoH quest.  It wasn't meant to imply that a character could do both.From what I've seen so far on Test, it's one or the other for the Rodcet returns quests as well.  Both quests give the exact same reward though.Whether there's more than just the initial quest that tells you what's happened, I haven't found yet.  I'm hoping I'm just missing something, because the way some new NPCs are acting, it certainly seems like there should be more...Maybe they're saving that for live?

[Zabjade]

<span style="color: #00cc00;">Also some of the Seer's dialog about Rodcet's goals seeming to be following a similar path as his vanquished predecessor...Physical Immortality...Makes me wonder if someone is being played for a fool or is going down the wrong path.</span>

[teddyboy4]

<cite>Lodrelhai wrote:</cite><blockquote>Sorry if I caused any confusion, my comments were a somewhat sarcastic view on how a good-aligned character (or an exile) could still do the evil version of the SoH quest.  It wasn't meant to imply that a character could do both.From what I've seen so far on Test, it's one or the other for the Rodcet returns quests as well.  Both quests give the exact same reward though.Whether there's more than just the initial quest that tells you what's happened, I haven't found yet.  I'm hoping I'm just missing something, because the way some new NPCs are acting, it certainly seems like there should be more...Maybe they're saving that for live?</blockquote>Well, even though the translation was pretty rough, I got from that preview that the event is going to be progressive over the course of a few weeks

[TaleraRis]

<cite>Eandiil@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Gukkor2 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Wilin wrote:</cite><blockquote>BTW, I did the new quest at the Celestial Watch on Test. It seems to almost, but not quite, confirm what alot of us thought about the Temple of Life. Check it out for yourself. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img mce_tsrc=" />" width="15" height="15" /></blockquote>What did a lot of us think about the Temple of Life?</blockquote>That it's the ship that Rodcet Niffe came to Norrath in</blockquote>Man wouldn't that be funny. It was lovingly called the spaceship back in EQ1 because of how it looked, but to my knowledge there was never any sort of lore supporting it. To finally have lore supporting that would be ironic and humorous.

[Cusashorn]

<cite>Gwyneth@Najena wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Eandiil@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Gukkor2 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Wilin wrote:</cite><blockquote>BTW, I did the new quest at the Celestial Watch on Test. It seems to almost, but not quite, confirm what alot of us thought about the Temple of Life. Check it out for yourself. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img mce_tsrc=" width="15" height="15" />" width="15" height="15" /></blockquote>What did a lot of us think about the Temple of Life?</blockquote>That it's the ship that Rodcet Niffe came to Norrath in</blockquote>Man wouldn't that be funny. It was lovingly called the spaceship back in EQ1 because of how it looked, but to my knowledge there was never any sort of lore supporting it. To finally have lore supporting that would be ironic and humorous.</blockquote>I remember talking to players who remembered seeing the "flying saucer" arrive in North Qeynos one day during Everquest Beta. There was nothing much more to it other than an addition to North Qeynos in general, from what I remember being told.

[Sylaz]

I just hope they stick to Rodcet's original concept art as far as his Avatar goes.I've been a little disappointed with some of the avatars so far, and this one I'm really hoping they don't mess up. We've never seen him (unless I'm horribly mistaken) in his "true" form yet, and I'm really hoping they stick the "alien" theme. I have this gnawing fear however that they'll make him just some Human in shiny cleric-like armor.

[Cusashorn]

<cite>Sylaz wrote:</cite><blockquote>I just hope they stick to Rodcet's original concept art as far as his Avatar goes.I've been a little disappointed with some of the avatars so far, and this one I'm really hoping they don't mess up. We've never seen him (unless I'm horribly mistaken) in his "true" form yet, and I'm really hoping they stick the "alien" theme. I have this gnawing fear however that they'll make him just some Human in shiny cleric-like armor.</blockquote><p>Well just remember, the avatars themselves are mortals blessed with divine powers from the god themself, and the gods can choose to manifest themselves however they want. This is most evident in Bertoxxulous, Innoruuk, and the Tribunal.</p><p>However, I agree. In this case, seeing him as his original concept art just to give us a precedent to what he looks like in game would be best.</p><p>I just hope he isn't limited to model design like Cazic Thule (modified clay golem), Mithanial Marr (modified Barbarian), Tunare (modified high elf), Innoruuk (modified Troll), Rallos Zek (modified Ogre), or Solusek Ro (modified Erudite) are.</p>

[Gukkor2]

<cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Sylaz wrote:</cite><blockquote>I just hope they stick to Rodcet's original concept art as far as his Avatar goes.I've been a little disappointed with some of the avatars so far, and this one I'm really hoping they don't mess up. We've never seen him (unless I'm horribly mistaken) in his "true" form yet, and I'm really hoping they stick the "alien" theme. I have this gnawing fear however that they'll make him just some Human in shiny cleric-like armor.</blockquote><p>Well just remember, the avatars themselves are mortals blessed with divine powers from the god themself, and the gods can choose to manifest themselves however they want. This is most evident in Bertoxxulous, Innoruuk, and the Tribunal.</p><p>However, I agree. In this case, seeing him as his original concept art just to give us a precedent to what he looks like in game would be best.</p><p>I just hope he isn't limited to model design like Cazic Thule (modified clay golem), Mithanial Marr (modified Barbarian), Tunare (modified high elf), Innoruuk (modified Troll), Rallos Zek (modified Ogre), or Solusek Ro (modified Erudite) are.</p></blockquote>Wouldn't Brell be a modified dwarf and Bristlebane a modified halfling as well?

[shadowscale]

isent cazic thules based of a lizard man more then a golem? onley seen it in person once so not sure.

[Apocroph]

<cite>shadowscale wrote:</cite><blockquote>isent cazic thules based of a lizard man more then a golem? onley seen it in person once so not sure.</blockquote>Cazic-Thule (read: Avatar of Fear) has always looked more like an Iksar body to me.  The head is obviously covered, but the body looks more Iksar than anything else.

[Cusashorn]

Regardless, Quellious and Karana are more or less the only truely original designs.

[kyrr]

<cite>Sartredes wrote:</cite><blockquote>I wonder if the leper colony in the northern Commonlands and the Springview Healers will play any expanded role in the return of Rodcet Nife.  The couple of low level quests that happen there involving <u><b>Springview Healer</b></u> Hanif seemed to allude to the return of Bertoxxulous  but so far that was just left hanging.</blockquote><p>Possible spoilers in black. Highlight to read. I just finished the quest (up to the repeatable one) in Qeynos (4 nice disco's btw <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="22" height="18" />&nbsp<img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />. <span style="color: #000000;">Yes they're involved.</span></p><p><span style="color: #000000;">Also as far as Cusa saying that Rod and Bert were on Prime when they say they were... well the Seeress eludes to it. She says something about the affliction having been on another world that was dear to Rod.</span></p>

[Coniaric]

<p><b>Seeress Ealaynya Ithis says to you, "So it has begun already.  I had hoped to have greater time to prepare, but alas we do not have such a luxury!  The Prime Healer warned of this coming plague.  He has encountered it before as it ravaged another world, one very dear to him.  We must thwart it before it spreads further and becomes a more virulent strain!"</b></p><p><b>You say to Seeress Ealaynya Ithis, "Rodcet Nife has visited other worlds?"</b></p><p><b>Seeress Ealaynya Ithis says to you, "It is true, _______!  He cannot be restrained by the laws of the planes, like you and I.  He has traveled the cosmos, heeding the cries of the sick and dying.  He is fated to return to us one day, but until then we must take up his tenants and attend to the calls of the anguished, ourselves.  Will you heed the call, ________?"</b></p><p>________________________________________________</p><p>Honestly, I really don't have any idea which world the Seeress spoke of. She only said the deities (Rodcet) do visit different worlds, not just Norrath. Is it "Prime" she pointed to? It can go either way ... not a true confirmation.</p><p>Also, we haven't seen the physical changes as mentioned in the "Prime" book, so this one, I think I rather to wait and see how it goes with next few updates (if it'll be continuing). Personally, I'm not taking this as a confirmation of fact yet.</p><p>And ... Springview Healers have some sort of involvement.</p>

[Wilin]

<p>It might just be coincidence in name, but the new NPCs that are running around scratching themselves are called "blighted <race>"</p><p>If you revisit Rivervale and refresh your memory, you'll notice that a plague is mentioned as the cause of all of the trouble in Rivervale and that some of the creatures are referred to as "blighted <name>".</p><p>And of course, there's the direct influence of the void in Rivervale with all the corruption, nightbloods, and lamias running around.</p><p>Could this new plague just be the same one that was already in Rivervale?</p><p>Anyone remember where all those Nightbloods came from in Rivervale? Were they former residents who transformed?</p><p>Either way, this new plague could easily be an early stage of the one on Prime since the Seeress mentions stopping it before the more virulent strain appears.</p>

[Cusashorn]

<p>"Blight" is a word used to describe someone afflicted with a disease in general. It doesn't matter what the disease is. It's still a blight.</p><p>Just for kicks, I decided to head to Gorowyn and see the evil side of the story if I could (which I can't). However, next to the Altar of Bertoxxulous was a Springview healer who said that she remembered my time helping Healer Hanif in the Commonlands so many ages ago. That doesn't put me at ease, very much. :/</p><p>I couldn't help but notice that one of the NPCs has stated that it has been two years since the Gods returned to Norrath.</p><p>OH yeah. I'm kinda disappointed that Rodcet Nife didn't return with this quest. I was hoping they were actually putting him in as a new worshipable diety. Maybe this is only part one, and we'll eventually be able to in a few weeks or something.</p>

[Grimlux]

I just completed the Evil side and got a book. Was that it?

[shadowscale]

no. the main quest is from hrath everstill. talk to one of the blighted people that give dialog options, then can get the main quest.

[Todra_B]

<p>I have not absorbed much of the lore in EQ2 while playing my main but I did like these quests. Healing the sick and injured is what my dwarf Fury is all about. </p><p>It might have been nice to get some faction from these quests but it did give just enough aa xp to ding me. I was kind of disappointed that the Springview healer was only even con and sort of wimpy at that. At lvl 79, even con? As soon as I came up from the SQ bell it attacked me. I took a couple 200 pt hits before I realized this was my target. I thought , you are TOAST! 15 seconds later I was standing over its charred remains.</p><p>If Rodcet Nife does return I'll need to look at changing deities. I have Brell now just for the Forgehammer miracle.</p><p>Well done SOE for this little adventure. </p>

[Grimlux]

<p>Im a bit disapointed. I went back and finished all the evil side of the quests. The only ongoing storyline is from the book with the priestess and the Prime Healer. Im not saying its not bad at all! I just wish there would have been more to it then just.. Blighting the healthy. O.o</p><p>So far on the evil side during the live events we spread Hate, now Disease.  The good has repelled hate and cured disease. You'd have to be blind not to see that Rodcet is gonna be in the next expansion, but does that mean were gonna see the Tribunal as well?</p>

[shadowscale]

tribunal is already in game

[Cusashorn]

<cite>shadowscale wrote:</cite><blockquote>tribunal is already in game</blockquote>Indeed. Go speak with his Prophet at the newbie beach in Timorous Deep. Tribunal is Neutral, and from what I hear, isn't half bad for healers.

[Apocroph]

<blockquote>Dr. Bartholomew Oculus, chairman of the Association of Entropio-Atrophic Studies, disagrees with the findings, however. "I have told the people of Prime for many years that something like this would happen one day, but no one will listen. My findings show that the Panacea Cure will one day break down and corrupt the body."Oculus went on to say, "This illness is nothing more than another one of the lies that Rodger has been telling the public for years. If the public would have listened to me and started taking MY serum, this illness wouldn't have spread as far as it has already". With that, Dr. Oculus stormed out the room, ending our interview.</blockquote>I find it terribly interesting that Dr. Oculus says his <i><b>serum</b></i> would have fixed the problem, and we're now using an item called "Pestilent <i><b>Serum</b></i> 92C" to cure the blighted citizens.  Smells like a dirty double cross to me.

[Lodrelhai]

<cite>kuraan wrote:</cite><blockquote><blockquote>Dr. Bartholomew Oculus, chairman of the Association of Entropio-Atrophic Studies, disagrees with the findings, however. "I have told the people of Prime for many years that something like this would happen one day, but no one will listen. My findings show that the Panacea Cure will one day break down and corrupt the body."Oculus went on to say, "This illness is nothing more than another one of the lies that Rodger has been telling the public for years. If the public would have listened to me and started taking MY serum, this illness wouldn't have spread as far as it has already". With that, Dr. Oculus stormed out the room, ending our interview.</blockquote>I find it terribly interesting that Dr. Oculus says his <i><b>serum</b></i> would have fixed the problem, and we're now using an item called "Pestilent <i><b>Serum</b></i> 92C" to cure the blighted citizens.  Smells like a dirty double cross to me.</blockquote>serum - a watery fluid which is given as an injection to fight, or give immunity from, a diseaseLike terms such as pantheon, prime, and blighted, they are descriptive terms with a definition which makes them suitable to the situation, and do not necessarily indicate items that are the same or even related beyond their basic properties.However, the fact that the cure the Seeres selected had a name more in-line with game naming conventions (odd-sounding, random apostrophe), while the one given to her by the Prime Healer (which worked) has a more scientifically descriptive name, gives some very indirect evidence that the Prime Healer himself either is of a scientific mindframe or has agents/servants on more scientific worlds.

[Lodrelhai]

<cite>double-post, sorry</cite>

[Apocroph]

<cite>Lodrelhai wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite></cite>serum - a watery fluid which is given as an injection to fight, or give immunity from, a diseaseLike terms such as pantheon, prime, and blighted, they are descriptive terms with a definition which makes them suitable to the situation, and do not necessarily indicate items that are the same or even related beyond their basic properties.However, the fact that the cure the Seeres selected had a name more in-line with game naming conventions (odd-sounding, random apostrophe), while the one given to her by the Prime Healer (which worked) has a more scientifically descriptive name, gives some very indirect evidence that the Prime Healer himself either is of a scientific mindframe or has agents/servants on more scientific worlds.</blockquote>I just found the presence of the word interesting.  Might not be anything to it, but I'm certainly preparing myself for the possibility of folks turning into Nightbloods and running amok in the streets of Qeynos.There have been a lot of echoes of the past popping up lately; it all seems a little too coincidental to be coincidence.

[Wluil]

<cite>Wilin wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>It might just be coincidence in name, but the new NPCs that are running around scratching themselves are called "blighted <race>"</p><p>If you revisit Rivervale and refresh your memory, you'll notice that a plague is mentioned as the cause of all of the trouble in Rivervale and that some of the creatures are referred to as "blighted <name>".</p><p>And of course, there's the direct influence of the void in Rivervale with all the corruption, nightbloods, and lamias running around.</p><p>Could this new plague just be the same one that was already in Rivervale?</p><p>Anyone remember where all those Nightbloods came from in Rivervale? Were they former residents who transformed?</p><p>Either way, this new plague could easily be an early stage of the one on Prime since the Seeress mentions stopping it before the more virulent strain appears.</p></blockquote><div>I just ran through all this on the good side. I kind of made a similar connection, but only because (I think it was one of the blighted people) said something along the lines of, "We didn't think it was so serious until their skin started to change". I don't recall the exact wording, but the "skin starting to change" bit sticks out in my mind clearly.</div>

[aquavia]

<cite>Lodrelhai wrote:</cite><blockquote>However, the fact that the cure the Seeres selected had a name more in-line with game naming conventions (odd-sounding, random apostrophe), while the one given to her by the Prime Healer (which worked) has a more scientifically descriptive name, gives some very indirect evidence that the Prime Healer himself either is of a scientific mindframe or has agents/servants on more scientific worlds.</blockquote>This may just be wishful thinking on my part, but the name of the Seeress-chosen item, Aab'l Hayat, reminds me of the DoF style of naming things -- specifically, the descriptive language of mob names in Living Tombs/Silent City (who we know have ties to Anashti Sul and the Ewer of Sul'dae).

[Lodrelhai]

I decided to Google Aab'l Hayat, just to see what we could find.  After Google suggested a change (Ab'l Hayat), I got this:"<span>It also acquires a specific value as a special drink, comparable to milk; in the mystic Alevi-Bektashi sect of Turkey, the Water of Life (<b>Ab-l Hayat</b>) must be drunk by those who seek knowledge."  (<u>Asian Mythologies</u> </span><span class="addmd">By Yves Bonnefoy, Wendy Doniger, Gerald Honigsblum, excerpt found <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=r4I-FsZCzJEC&pg=PA333&lpg=PA333&dq=Alevi-Bektashi+sect+of+Turkey,+the+Water+of+Life&source=web&ots=SaSmEAqvfj&sig=eMT0upghvD7Gm6c6nL471V3Rt7Q&hl=en" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>.) Sound familiar to anyone?</span>

[Grimlux]

<cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>shadowscale wrote:</cite><blockquote>tribunal is already in game</blockquote>Indeed. Go speak with his Prophet at the newbie beach in Timorous Deep. Tribunal is Neutral, and from what I hear, isn't half bad for healers.</blockquote><p>That's not what I meant, I used wrong words I think. Wasn't Rodcet, Povar, and E'ci a trio of some sorts? Or should I put my crack pipe down? To the poster above me, Yes... it sounds like the Peacock Series. hehe</p>

[Saroc_Luclin]

<cite>Praetorate@Nektulos wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>shadowscale wrote:</cite><blockquote>tribunal is already in game</blockquote>Indeed. Go speak with his Prophet at the newbie beach in Timorous Deep. Tribunal is Neutral, and from what I hear, isn't half bad for healers.</blockquote><p>That's not what I meant, I used wrong words I think. Wasn't Rodcet, Povar, and E'ci a trio of some sorts? Or should I put my crack pipe down? To the poster above me, Yes... it sounds like the Peacock Series. hehe</p></blockquote>No you're thinking of E'ci, Povar and Tarew, the 3 parts of the Triumverate of Water, the Elemental god of Water. (Ice, Vapor and Water respectively).

[Grimlux]

<cite>Saroc_Luclin wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>No you're thinking of E'ci, Povar and Tarew, the 3 parts of the Triumverate of Water, the Elemental god of Water. (Ice, Vapor and Water respectively).</p></blockquote>Thank you, I knew there was something.

[Valdaglerion]

<cite>Wilin wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Kindayr wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>My apologies, for some reason i read the Panacea Cure as the Cure for the Itch, and that's why i put two and two together. Again, my apologies <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img mce_tsrc=" />" width="15" height="15" /></p></blockquote><p>The other common thing about a panacea cure is that it's not only a miracle cure for all ailments, but it also prolongs life indefinitely(ie you can die from a wound, but not from illness or age)</p><p>I don't know if that aspect of a panacea cure was intended on Prime or not. But, if it was, then the inhabitants of Prime were all essentially immortals. And if Anagrammed-Nife(tm) created a path to immortality for the inhabitants, then he essentially accomplished what Anashti-Sul failed to do on Norrath. (reference Ewer of Sul'Dae) But then the obelisks arrived and the inhabitants got sick and turned into nightbloods.</p><p>The whole Prime Healer shoots for immortality and creates undeath and is replaced by new Prime Healer who creates immortality seems compelling. And what if Anagrammed-Bert(tm) is actually correct in saying that Anagrammed-Nife's panacea cure caused the corruption?</p><p>Some interesting things buried in there somewhere...</p></blockquote>Just a side note as I have been searching out the Everling saga for a while and once again the Ewer of SulDae has come into focus ->Previously with Nek3 released the Everling Idol changed text when examined leading to the Antiquitor of MajDul. When hailed he emoted about seeking another in MajDul. The SEEKER near the gates of MajDul would emote about the Ewer of SulDae when you had the idol with you. A conversation with Vhalen months ago confirmed that the story line had not been completed in-game but more would be coming once the book of sunder could be opened. With Vhalens departing words we were able to open the book of sunder in nektropos castle. I grabbed teh idol and went treking back through MajDul. The 2 previous NPCs now have interactive text when hailed. The Antiquitor tells you to find the SEEKER, you click text that says "I will find the SEEKER in MajDul. When you talk with the SEEKER near the gates of MajDul you click final text that says "I will find the Ewer of SulDae". Again, previously these were only emotes and hints from these NPC's.Peacock club seems to have 1 new NPC that I dont remember seeing there before but could not be certain of it. She is near a newly placed small doll on the shelf. A doll of a barb strumming and singing his tunes. The Ghost of Vhalen. She says nothing at this point though.A raid on the God King is going to be a PITA on my server as no one raids this any longer and farming the eyes takes forever but.....thoughts???

[Cusashorn]

<cite>Artemiz@The Bazaar wrote:</cite><blockquote>Just a side note as I have been searching out the Everling saga for a while and once again the Ewer of SulDae has come into focus ->Previously with Nek3 released the Everling Idol changed text when examined leading to the Antiquitor of MajDul. When hailed he emoted about seeking another in MajDul. The SEEKER near the gates of MajDul would emote about the Ewer of SulDae when you had the idol with you. A conversation with Vhalen months ago confirmed that the story line had not been completed in-game but more would be coming once the book of sunder could be opened. With Vhalens departing words we were able to open the book of sunder in nektropos castle. I grabbed teh idol and went treking back through MajDul. The 2 previous NPCs now have interactive text when hailed. The Antiquitor tells you to find the SEEKER, you click text that says "I will find the SEEKER in MajDul. When you talk with the SEEKER near the gates of MajDul you click final text that says "I will find the Ewer of SulDae". Again, previously these were only emotes and hints from these NPC's.Peacock club seems to have 1 new NPC that I dont remember seeing there before but could not be certain of it. She is near a newly placed small doll on the shelf. A doll of a barb strumming and singing his tunes. The Ghost of Vhalen. She says nothing at this point though.A raid on the God King is going to be a PITA on my server as no one raids this any longer and farming the eyes takes forever but.....thoughts???</blockquote><p>If only that were the case. When you present the Idol of Everling to Mor'Tael, he tells you a cryptic message about his involvement with the void, but sadly, I can't remember what he says because it was a one-time only deal.</p><p>Mor'Tael is involved in the Peacock questline for other reasons not related to the Idol. As part of the Peacock line, he tells you to find Seeker Abdeef. Seeker Abdeef is obsessed with finding the Ewer of Sul'Dae, but once you finish the questline and talk to him about what you had to do, he completely understands the situation and is relieved that you had to destroy the ewer. After that, anytime you hail him, he only says "Good to see you again, adventurer. You are always welcome in Maj'Dul."</p><p>As for the Peacock club, The Ghost of Vhalen (human BTW, not Barbarian) only shows up if you have the Idol of Everling in your inventory. I've never seen that Nighbright sister there before, and I don't know what she's involved in, since she doesn't say anything other than for you to go away.</p>

[goldfeesh641]

<cite>Praetorate@Nektulos wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>shadowscale wrote:</cite><blockquote>tribunal is already in game</blockquote>Indeed. Go speak with his Prophet at the newbie beach in Timorous Deep. Tribunal is Neutral, and from what I hear, isn't half bad for healers.</blockquote><p>That's not what I meant, I used wrong words I think. Wasn't Rodcet, Povar, and E'ci a trio of some sorts? Or should I put my crack pipe down? To the poster above me, Yes... it sounds like the Peacock Series. hehe</p></blockquote>You need to put the pipe down, it was Tarew Marr that was with the Triumverate of Water, not Rodcet Nife.

[KniteShayd]

<cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>"Blight" is a word used to describe someone afflicted with a disease in general. It doesn't matter what the disease is. It's still a blight.</p><p>Just for kicks, I decided to head to Gorowyn and see the evil side of the story if I could (which I can't). However, next to the Altar of Bertoxxulous was a Springview healer who said that she remembered my time helping Healer Hanif in the Commonlands so many ages ago. That doesn't put me at ease, very much. :/</p><p>I couldn't help but notice that one of the NPCs has stated that it has been two years since the Gods returned to Norrath.</p><p>OH yeah. I'm kinda disappointed that Rodcet Nife didn't return with this quest. I was hoping they were actually putting him in as a new worshipable diety. Maybe this is only part one, and we'll eventually be able to in a few weeks or something.</p></blockquote><p>Well, if you read the book, there are missing pages</p><p><img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p>