View Full Version : Tinymode - Targeting needs a fix asap please!

12-30-2007, 08:41 AM
Hello thereI seen so many threads here moaning about different stuff and I am quite surprised nobody brought up one of the biggest game issues atm. People moan about tracking, about evac, about stealth and not stealth but did nobody else notice the superannoying "tiny" bug?.Whenever a player is tiny, due to Fae form, Billy Doll, Cat Totem or any other item, it is not possible to target the player via "next hostile pvp" button. That and the fact that hes supertiny and about 5x5 pixels on my screen makes it very hard to click him till he fires his first shots at me and I get an autotarget.Or is it only me that noticed this?

12-30-2007, 09:04 AM
Can ony agree, shrink = too hard to target people, even with next pvp target hotkey.

12-30-2007, 09:16 AM
Speaking from someone who has neither the 40% vet shrink or LoN cloak, I find it annoying, but also find it adds another level to PvP. I say leave it as it is.

12-30-2007, 09:29 AM
<p>If you think people can target/see me further than 3 metres then you're totally wrong. Sony this is not what it should be!</p><p><img src="http://www.ajjantis.de/shrink.jpg" alt="" width="1280" height="968" border="0" /></p><p>fix please.</p>

yohann koldheart
12-30-2007, 11:56 AM
<p>on the totems, the illusion is only there when not in pvp so you attack someone the illusion drops.</p><p>i think the bigger problem is the small races,rats,gnomes,feys who make their toons smallest in creation,stack the lon cloak and billy doll.</p><p>now i know its not any fault of the player,i also make my toons smallest i can in creation. but when you factor in the race size the lon cloak and the billy doll,players are running around just as small as the cat totem form but with out the totem illusion breaking in combat.</p><p>i like the idea of shrink items, havin a huge barb,ogre or troll tank wile crawling through a tight dungeon blows.</p><p>maby they should make the lon claok and  billy doll not stack, and make the cat totems make you into a bigger cat or something.</p><p>or better yet give us the option to turn off all illusions including those that other players are using.</p>

12-30-2007, 12:33 PM
Dont get me wrong, nothing against the shrink items, as long as the targetting system works... as soon as the "next hotkey" thing is fixed, I am all up for those items again.. just atm its bugged and really hard.

12-30-2007, 03:49 PM
<cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite><blockquote>Dont get me wrong, nothing against the shrink items, as long as the targetting system works... as soon as the "next hotkey" thing is fixed, I am all up for those items again.. just atm its bugged and really hard.</blockquote><p>/agree</p><p>I dont care if someone can make their toon so small that it doesnt even show up on my screen, just make it so when I press "pvp target" it will actually target them before they start hitting me.</p><p>This is just a guess but based on the existance of this bug, I think the targetting system somehow works based on relative size.  As someone gets farther away from you they appear smaller.  At some size (and therefore a certain distance) the game no longer allows you to target them.  However using different shrink items (especially on already minimal size toons) you can shrink your actual size to below this minimum targetable value.  Therefore this would explain why someone can be directly in front of you and still not be targetable.</p><p>If my random guess there was at all accurate I would think this could all be solved by simply assigning a maximum distance value to targetting rather then a minimum size.  I see no reason why size should play a role in pvp targetting.</p>

12-30-2007, 08:50 PM
It's not just the small races at creation.A buddy of mine is a half elf.  He uses cat totem, LoN cloak (which the effect stays on even when the cloak is in the bag) and Bristlebane cloak.  He is smaller than my foot, and when standing still, if I stand on him, fits inside my foot.That's not a problem, I have no issue with it, as long as "target next hostile pvp" works fine.  If its bugging and not working, then yes, please fix targeting.  Do NOT nerf the shrink effects.  Just like taking out the jumpy boots, that would just make pvp even more dumbed down. 

12-31-2007, 07:53 AM
<p>Im constantly finding myself getting LOS on people RIGHT infront of me and targetting people who are TINY using the target pvp only hotkey.</p><p> this needs to be address asap <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

12-31-2007, 01:34 PM
If people are using items to shrink their characters, they should be allowed to do that. What you can do to be able to target them easily is shrink yourself so they and you are the same size so it's as though you're trying to target someone normal size. I'm not 100% sure this is how it works since I don't have any shrink items/spells to use, but it seems like this is how it should work. Perhaps another thing that would help is if the shrink effect can only be seen by members of your own faction so Freeportians don't see you as smaller than normal if you're Qeynosians and vise-versa.