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wvorster
12-24-2007, 05:56 AM
<p><span style="font-size: x-small;color: #ffff00;font-family: verdana,geneva;">Yeah ! You heard me !</span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;color: #ffff00;font-family: verdana,geneva;">Everyone posting here is either a whine or a nerf. Some class has something i don't have and they killed me faster than i could say [Removed for Content]? There's tonnes of posts on here about decap , rangers ,HT , overpowered healers , wards, Track .. why ??? just remove all class permitations from the game.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;color: #ffff00;font-family: verdana,geneva;"><i>Make all classes do exactly the same - that would make everyone happy no ? then you can feel REALLY stupid when someone kills you.  All classes heals , track , HT , Snipe , Decap.</i></span></p><p><b><span style="font-size: x-small;color: #ffff00;font-family: verdana,geneva;">Personally i think admins should BAN anyone asking for a nerf of any kind. People like that are the cause of the state of the game. Crying about small things their classes can't do.</span></b></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;color: #ffff00;font-family: verdana,geneva;"> It's a food chain out there , rock - paper - scicors. Some classes are just not able to kill others. Live with it or reroll.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;color: #ffff00;font-family: verdana,geneva;">This is why my ranger is so useless now that i can't use my "amazing arrow" when i don't have LoS. I can't use my dps focus in PvP. I lose my incombat movement speed in PvP. I can't evac in PVP.And my spike damage has been near halved.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;color: #ffff00;font-family: verdana,geneva;"> Seriously ... stop asking for nerfs already... it's getting old... and you're fcuking up the game.</span></p>

TheFitz
12-24-2007, 09:14 AM
I tend to agree. Learn to use your class effectively or reroll. At the very least attempt to get your class buffed instead of trying to nerf others.

-Arctura-
12-24-2007, 09:42 AM
(( agreed!! Keep the game as it is NOW!

Dh
12-24-2007, 11:50 AM
<cite>wvorster wrote:</cite><blockquote><p><span style="font-size: x-small;color: #ffff00;font-family: verdana,geneva;">Yeah ! You heard me !</span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;color: #ffff00;font-family: verdana,geneva;">Everyone posting here is either a whine or a nerf. Some class has something i don't have and they killed me faster than i could say [I cannot control my vocabulary]? There's tonnes of posts on here about decap , rangers ,HT , overpowered healers , wards, Track .. why ??? just remove all class permitations from the game.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;color: #ffff00;font-family: verdana,geneva;"><i>Make all classes do exactly the same - that would make everyone happy no ? then you can feel REALLY stupid when someone kills you.  All classes heals , track , HT , Snipe , Decap.</i></span></p><p><b><span style="font-size: x-small;color: #ffff00;font-family: verdana,geneva;">Personally i think admins should BAN anyone asking for a nerf of any kind. People like that are the cause of the state of the game. Crying about small things their classes can't do.</span></b></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;color: #ffff00;font-family: verdana,geneva;"> It's a food chain out there , rock - paper - scicors. Some classes are just not able to kill others. Live with it or reroll.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;color: #ffff00;font-family: verdana,geneva;">This is why my ranger is so useless now that i can't use my "amazing arrow" when i don't have LoS. I can't use my dps focus in PvP. I lose my incombat movement speed in PvP. I can't evac in PVP.And my spike damage has been near halved.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;color: #ffff00;font-family: verdana,geneva;"> Seriously ... stop asking for nerfs already... it's getting old... and you're fcuking up the game.</span></p></blockquote><p>Some people like me have played many different classes and can really see what is wrong with the game. Scout evac for example can't be stopped by most classes once they start casting it. This is rediculous. People with track should not have an uninterruptable evac. I have played 70 Assassin and swash and now I'm playing a 59 ranger which will be 80 soon. </p><p> If you think the focus aim should be left in pvp so u can track then kill someone in 2 seconds and evac then something is wrong with you. How is that balanced? You used to be able to kill someone be4 they could have a chance to do anything at all.</p><p>Why would you want to start a pvp fight and evac? Once you start a fight you should have to finish it and that is why it was changed. </p><p>It makes no sense people cannot use Pact of the Cheetah and run away at high speed once getting hit in combat but people can just instantly disapear. People cannot cure a root or hit manashield to run away without getting put in combat but people can hit their uninterruptable evac that casts on the run and just disapear.</p><p>Evac needs to be interruptable at the very least and it should not finish casting while you are stunned.</p><p>By the way... Ranger is NOT useless and they still kill people too fast if you ask me. The should get an interrupt ability on one of their combat arts to compensate for the focus aim removal tho.</p><p>The people that sit here and complain about people trying to make the game more fair for everyone are the ones that should be banned from the forums.</p>

Artaguss
12-24-2007, 12:02 PM
I agree, just a newb point of view because I don't know how it was "back in the day". PVE since beta, rolled in Nag and I am having a blast. 2 weeks into PVP and "dirt nap" is my middle name. I guess if there were hundreds of people with zero kills to their credit, it might be a concern. So far as I see it, nobody is gimped 100%, learn to work your class and/or get in a group or guild.I have farmed and worked TS to start having some decent gear and selling rares has started my plat income. I am learning to work my class and having fun doing it. People are great on the Nagafen server, everyone has great advice and help when they can. I have even had a group of Q's stop, wave and then move on even tho they could make me toast. Of course the flip side is "easy target, easy kill". The juice for me is that its a PVE/PVP environment, not only do you have to watch the MOBS but you have to watch your back from players as well. I might change my mind as I gain in levels but I doubt it. Even if its a gank fest to max level it will just make me try harder and savor  the few kills along the way.I like it as it is just fine....

-Arctura-
12-24-2007, 12:55 PM
<cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>wvorster wrote:</cite><blockquote><p><span style="font-size: x-small;font-family: verdana,geneva;color: #ffff00;">Yeah ! You heard me !</span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;font-family: verdana,geneva;color: #ffff00;">Everyone posting here is either a whine or a nerf. Some class has something i don't have and they killed me faster than i could say [I cannot control my vocabulary]? There's tonnes of posts on here about decap , rangers ,HT , overpowered healers , wards, Track .. why ??? just remove all class permitations from the game.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;font-family: verdana,geneva;color: #ffff00;"><i>Make all classes do exactly the same - that would make everyone happy no ? then you can feel REALLY stupid when someone kills you.  All classes heals , track , HT , Snipe , Decap.</i></span></p><p><b><span style="font-size: x-small;font-family: verdana,geneva;color: #ffff00;">Personally i think admins should BAN anyone asking for a nerf of any kind. People like that are the cause of the state of the game. Crying about small things their classes can't do.</span></b></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;font-family: verdana,geneva;color: #ffff00;"> It's a food chain out there , rock - paper - scicors. Some classes are just not able to kill others. Live with it or reroll.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;font-family: verdana,geneva;color: #ffff00;">This is why my ranger is so useless now that i can't use my "amazing arrow" when i don't have LoS. I can't use my dps focus in PvP. I lose my incombat movement speed in PvP. I can't evac in PVP.And my spike damage has been near halved.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;font-family: verdana,geneva;color: #ffff00;"> Seriously ... stop asking for nerfs already... it's getting old... and you're fcuking up the game.</span></p></blockquote><p>Some people like me have played many different classes and can really see what is wrong with the game. Scout evac for example can't be stopped by most classes once they start casting it. This is rediculous. People with track should not have an uninterruptable evac. I have played 70 Assassin and swash and now I'm playing a 59 ranger which will be 80 soon. </p><p> If you think the focus aim should be left in pvp so u can track then kill someone in 2 seconds and evac then something is wrong with you. How is that balanced? You used to be able to kill someone be4 they could have a chance to do anything at all.</p><p>Why would you want to start a pvp fight and evac? Once you start a fight you should have to finish it and that is why it was changed. </p><p>It makes no sense people cannot use Pact of the Cheetah and run away at high speed once getting hit in combat but people can just instantly disapear. People cannot cure a root or hit manashield to run away without getting put in combat but people can hit their uninterruptable evac that casts on the run and just disapear.</p><p>Evac needs to be interruptable at the very least and it should not finish casting while you are stunned.</p><p>By the way... Ranger is NOT useless and they still kill people too fast if you ask me. The should get an interrupt ability on one of their combat arts to compensate for the focus aim removal tho.</p><p>The people that sit here and complain about people trying to make the game more fair for everyone are the ones that should be banned from the forums.</p></blockquote>(( Btw ill correct this error here again, since someone keeps posting misinformation all over the forums, likely in an attempt to get evac removed altogether. The above is totally inaccurate.Evac IS interruptable.That is all.<img src="http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g69/Arctura000/Interrupt.gif" alt="" border="0" />

Psych
12-24-2007, 02:32 PM
OP is a PredatorAs is perfectly clear in pvp games if your play the imba classes you lose all rights to tell others to L2P.Its a trade off. You get to play a game without trying or thinking, just button mashing, and you lose the right to talk smack. Its a TRADE.Its just like picking akuma in sfa3. Once you select your character as akuma you are almost certainly going to win but you have also given up the right to talk trash on it or insult your opponent because they didnt pick the "newb cannon".This is like an awper in CS, a Sampire in UO pve or the HW/engi in tfc and tf2.Classes like these take little to no thought. You point and click and you win easily most of the time. Your obviously the strongest classes and thats why your the most played classes. Happens in every online game with competition between players.Its the same reason players in magic the gathering all played solar flare for so long. It was the obviously strongest deck and so it was being played by 50+% of players.Same thing with rangers. In kelethin more than 1/3 of everyone I see is a ranger. Other than that mostly druids but rangers by far its nearly every other person I see. In freeport this is the brigand. Anyone can see this were not all blind and its a big joke to act like they arent overpowered.On the other hand its true everyone will try to keep THEIR class on top and I understand that but really nobdoy believes for a second that the ranger is balanced enough yet and everyone knows a storm is coming with Brigand written all over it.Also nobody cares if evac can be interrupted because any scout worth a click should be tracking his fights so that he doesnt have to use evac. If he has to use it he screwed up and if he still cant snare/stun his opponent and get evac casted then he needs to delete and reroll a mage to see what its really like to be able to get "interrupted".scout CA's interrrupts arent the same. Yeah if a spell like my coercers muddled thinking SAYS it interrupts it will interrupt unless target is immune to interrupt and most scouts arent. BUT, just like any other CA style move the chance of it actually getting interrupted by plain damage is insignificant.This is why on a shadowknight or paladin your heals/wards often get interrupted and your combat CA's never seem to. Literally...NEVER. Even the aoe combat art of several characters I've made has never been interrupted even when fighting monsters that killed me in under 10 seconds. (i did it for the lulz) but believe me if one of them hit me even once during a heal it would have been interrupt city.Evac isnt magic. Dont try to say it can be interrupted. Its not the same if a spell that specifically says "interrupt" can interrupt something and it "can be interrupted".Mage root spells can be interrupted by pretty much anything.Scout evacs can be interrupted by [I cannot control my vocabulary] near nothing.If your class does NOT have the skill "Focus" then dont even assume you can be interrupted because its as unlikely as meeting a beserker.

Raidyen
12-24-2007, 03:27 PM
<p>Agreed with the OP.  Every class in this game can gain the ability to evac if they really want to.  Here is a brief list of abilities that i gain from items my swashy has on him all the time.  </p><p>Heal / ward / Regen  (up to 4k in healing with no posion or gear procs)</p><p>Increase power / regen power</p><p>Feign Death</p><p>Mez  (the item is better then swashy mez, and gets resisted less)</p><p>Charm (under lvl 65)</p><p>Pets</p><p>Root </p><p>Detaunt</p><p>Cure arcane / posion / trama / elements</p><p>Stun / stifle immune</p><p>Root / fear /snare immune</p><p>Speed increase</p><p>See stealth / See invis</p><p>invis</p><p>Evac  (just incase my 15min evac is down)</p><p>Dispel Magic</p><p>I am sure i have more but thats all i can remember off the top of my head.  Before people cry nerf, maybe they should learn thier character and all the tools that are available to them.</p>

-Arctura-
12-24-2007, 05:29 PM
<cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Agreed with the OP.  Every class in this game can gain the ability to evac if they really want to.  Here is a brief list of abilities that i gain from items my swashy has on him all the time.  </p><p>Heal / ward / Regen  (up to 4k in healing with no posion or gear procs)</p><p>Increase power / regen power</p><p>Feign Death</p><p>Mez  (the item is better then swashy mez, and gets resisted less)</p><p>Charm (under lvl 65)</p><p>Pets</p><p>Root </p><p>Detaunt</p><p>Cure arcane / posion / trama / elements</p><p>Stun / stifle immune</p><p>Root / fear /snare immune</p><p>Speed increase</p><p>See stealth / See invis</p><p>invis</p><p>Evac  (just incase my 15min evac is down)</p><p>Dispel Magic</p><p>I am sure i have more but thats all i can remember off the top of my head.  Before people cry nerf, maybe they should learn thier character and all the tools that are available to them.</p></blockquote>((Totally.Dont forget theres...Tinkered evac, Evac roots, Evac Lockets, Evac Potions, Evac godpowers and evac stones. ANYONE has access to evac. If you dont like otheres using it, use it yourself <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Psych
12-25-2007, 06:23 AM
i dont have the means to go in game and test rogue evac then test the evacs you compared scout evac to but I would dare say they arent identical. I would dare say the non-scout evacs suck.I'm not level 80 I'm not in the end game and I know tinkering can make a lotta stuff but I still doubt anything you buy is as good as the actual spell its imitating.Sometimes its the degree of something that makes the difference. Like the difference between 1 second and 2 second and being able to be interrupted (ca) and almot not ever interrupted at all (combat art).I would think tanks would never die if evac could be bought so cheap. I mean think...tank gets hit by surprise...tank evacs...he just does this every time he doesnt have the edge right from the start. I havnt heard about tanks evacing all the time on any other post or anyone saying any other class even evacs much at all.Leaves me to wonder if these evac items are 1 of a couple things...A) CrapB) Too Expensivesince they couldnt possible be too expensive for high end raiders I'd go with A but if you can link pics of the abilities you could make a believer outta me.

Derrickr
12-25-2007, 03:31 PM
It's funny how the people who have it easy don't want the game to change.

Rutaq
12-25-2007, 04:46 PM
<cite>wvorster wrote:</cite><blockquote><p><span style="font-size: x-small;color: #ffff00;font-family: verdana,geneva;">Yeah ! You heard me !</span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;color: #ffff00;font-family: verdana,geneva;">Everyone posting here is either a whine or a nerf. Some class has something i don't have and they killed me faster than i could say [I cannot control my vocabulary]? There's tonnes of posts on here about decap , rangers ,HT , overpowered healers , wards, Track .. why ??? just remove all class permitations from the game.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;color: #ffff00;font-family: verdana,geneva;"><i>Make all classes do exactly the same - that would make everyone happy no ? then you can feel REALLY stupid when someone kills you.  All classes heals , track , HT , Snipe , Decap.</i></span></p><p><b><span style="font-size: x-small;color: #ffff00;font-family: verdana,geneva;">Personally i think admins should BAN anyone asking for a nerf of any kind. People like that are the cause of the state of the game. Crying about small things their classes can't do.</span></b></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;color: #ffff00;font-family: verdana,geneva;"> It's a food chain out there , rock - paper - scicors. Some classes are just not able to kill others. Live with it or reroll.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;color: #ffff00;font-family: verdana,geneva;">This is why my ranger is so useless now that i can't use my "amazing arrow" when i don't have LoS. I can't use my dps focus in PvP. I lose my incombat movement speed in PvP. I can't evac in PVP.And my spike damage has been near halved.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;color: #ffff00;font-family: verdana,geneva;"> Seriously ... stop asking for nerfs already... it's getting old... and you're fcuking up the game.</span></p></blockquote><p>You are writing a whine post telling others to stop whining ?     LoL,  how about the DEVS remove all whine posts about whine post from the forums  <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>  I bet this isn't your first MMO so you obviously know that the game system, even PvE,  will constantly be adjusted, balanced and nerfed.  In a PvP environment there are special concerns about offering a competitive level playing field so it is to be expected that the game will change.    </p><p>  The flawed recommendation of  " Live with it or reroll "  will NOT result in a balanced successful game, instead it will promote very few class options and playstyles which would yield to the avoidance of all Classes and variations in favor of the one best class.  Thus removing the use of almost all classes and variations.</p><p>  MMOs change, that is the nature of an evolving game, if you are change averse then playing an MMO would be like self imposed torture.   Stop hurting yourself and go play an FPS for the nice stable unchanging environment.</p>

Sightless
12-25-2007, 06:13 PM
<cite>Psych wrote:</cite><blockquote>i dont have the means to go in game and test rogue evac then test the evacs you compared scout evac to but I would dare say they arent identical. I would dare say the non-scout evacs suck.I'm not level 80 I'm not in the end game and I know tinkering can make a lotta stuff but I still doubt anything you buy is as good as the actual spell its imitating.Sometimes its the degree of something that makes the difference. Like the difference between 1 second and 2 second and being able to be interrupted (ca) and almot not ever interrupted at all (combat art).I would think tanks would never die if evac could be bought so cheap. I mean think...tank gets hit by surprise...tank evacs...he just does this every time he doesnt have the edge right from the start. I havnt heard about tanks evacing all the time on any other post or anyone saying any other class even evacs much at all.Leaves me to wonder if these evac items are 1 of a couple things...A) CrapB) Too Expensivesince they couldnt possible be too expensive for high end raiders I'd go with A but if you can link pics of the abilities you could make a believer outta me.</blockquote>All evac items are nearly instant cast, and the evac root is very easy to get, and very cheap.

LionWilled
12-25-2007, 07:02 PM
<cite>Psych wrote:</cite><blockquote>OP is a PredatorAs is perfectly clear in pvp games if your play the imba classes you lose all rights to tell others to L2P.Its a trade off. You get to play a game without trying or thinking, just button mashing, and you lose the right to talk smack. Its a TRADE.Its just like picking akuma in sfa3. Once you select your character as akuma you are almost certainly going to win but you have also given up the right to talk trash on it or insult your opponent because they didnt pick the "newb cannon".This is like an awper in CS, a Sampire in UO pve or the HW/engi in tfc and tf2.Classes like these take little to no thought. You point and click and you win easily most of the time. Your obviously the strongest classes and thats why your the most played classes. Happens in every online game with competition between players.Its the same reason players in magic the gathering all played solar flare for so long. It was the obviously strongest deck and so it was being played by 50+% of players.Same thing with rangers. In kelethin more than 1/3 of everyone I see is a ranger. Other than that mostly druids but rangers by far its nearly every other person I see. In freeport this is the brigand. Anyone can see this were not all blind and its a big joke to act like they arent overpowered.On the other hand its true everyone will try to keep THEIR class on top and I understand that but really nobdoy believes for a second that the ranger is balanced enough yet and everyone knows a storm is coming with Brigand written all over it.Also nobody cares if evac can be interrupted because any scout worth a click should be tracking his fights so that he doesnt have to use evac. If he has to use it he screwed up and if he still cant snare/stun his opponent and get evac casted then he needs to delete and reroll a mage to see what its really like to be able to get "interrupted".scout CA's interrrupts arent the same. Yeah if a spell like my coercers muddled thinking SAYS it interrupts it will interrupt unless target is immune to interrupt and most scouts arent. BUT, just like any other CA style move the chance of it actually getting interrupted by plain damage is insignificant.This is why on a shadowknight or paladin your heals/wards often get interrupted and your combat CA's never seem to. Literally...NEVER. Even the aoe combat art of several characters I've made has never been interrupted even when fighting monsters that killed me in under 10 seconds. (i did it for the lulz) but believe me if one of them hit me even once during a heal it would have been interrupt city.Evac isnt magic. Dont try to say it can be interrupted. Its not the same if a spell that specifically says "interrupt" can interrupt something and it "can be interrupted".Mage root spells can be interrupted by pretty much anything.Scout evacs can be interrupted by [I cannot control my vocabulary] near nothing.If your class does NOT have the skill "Focus" then dont even assume you can be interrupted because its as unlikely as meeting a beserker.</blockquote>Thread over.Seriously, Preds and Scouts have nothing to complain about, NOTHING. Rangers can complain about the arrow situation, and that's it.Preds and Scouts are so ridiculously overpowered in pvp AND pve it's silly (especially Brigands, oh my god, they're this games equiv of EQ1 Necros in pve.)These types of posts are bread and butter on all games that have pvp, it's the norm. People who play underpowered classes will always be told L2P, and it's usually being said by the people needing a nerf.

Eybietie
12-25-2007, 10:07 PM
this thread was over with the creation of its title.

Izzypop
12-26-2007, 12:47 AM
<cite>wvorster wrote:</cite><blockquote><p><span style="font-size: x-small;color: #ffff00;font-family: verdana,geneva;">Yeah ! You heard me !</span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;color: #ffff00;font-family: verdana,geneva;">Everyone posting here is either a whine or a nerf. Some class has something i don't have and they killed me faster than i could say [I cannot control my vocabulary]? There's tonnes of posts on here about decap , rangers ,HT , overpowered healers , wards, Track .. why ??? just remove all class permitations from the game.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;color: #ffff00;font-family: verdana,geneva;"><i>Make all classes do exactly the same - that would make everyone happy no ? then you can feel REALLY stupid when someone kills you.  All classes heals , track , HT , Snipe , Decap.</i></span></p><p><i><span style="font-size: x-small;color: #cc0000;">How about the ability to charm iksar in KJ? </span></i></p><p><img src="http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f255/LokiLaughs2much/graph.jpg" border="0" alt="" width="800" height="500" /></p><p><b><span style="font-size: x-small;color: #ffff00;font-family: verdana,geneva;">Personally i think admins should BAN anyone asking for a nerf of any kind. People like that are the cause of the state of the game. Crying about small things their classes can't do.</span></b></p><p><b><span style="font-size: x-small;color: #ff0000;">I should be banned.  I asked for disabling strike on KJ mobs to be nerfed.  I'm a sad crybaby nerfherder.  </span></b></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;color: #ffff00;font-family: verdana,geneva;"> It's a food chain out there , rock - paper - scicors. Some classes are just not able to kill others. Live with it or reroll.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;color: #ff0000;">Coercer in KJ> All other classes, even Chuck Norris</span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;color: #ffff00;font-family: verdana,geneva;">This is why my ranger is so useless now that i can't use my "amazing arrow" when i don't have LoS. I can't use my dps focus in PvP. I lose my incombat movement speed in PvP. I can't evac in PVP.And my spike damage has been near halved.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;color: #ff0000;">Wow you rangers have it so tough now.  I feel so [I cannot control my vocabulary] sorry for you that you can't drop clothies in under 2 seconds anymore.  I'm just glad I still play an overpowered no skill solo PvP class.  Guardians have it so great and so easy in solo pvp every day I watch rangers complain over the chat channels about how hard things are for them now I feel so bad for those poor defenseless little rangers I start to cry.  I just feel so guilty about being able to solo so easy as a guardian while more difficult to play weaker solo pvp classes like rangers have to struggle so hard to get a kill.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;color: #ffff00;font-family: verdana,geneva;"> Seriously ... stop asking for nerfs already... it's getting old... and you're fcuking up the game.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;color: #ff0000;">You are correct sir.  Nerfherding is always wrong.  I take back what I previously said.  There is nothing wrong with charmed mob dps in KJ and this kind of pvp dps is perfectly reasonable.</span></p><p><img src="http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f255/LokiLaughs2much/graph.jpg" border="0" alt="" width="800" height="500" /></p></blockquote>

ltpyromacc
12-26-2007, 02:26 AM
<cite>wvorster wrote:</cite><blockquote><p><span style="font-size: x-small;color: #ffff00;font-family: verdana,geneva;">Yeah ! You heard me !</span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;color: #ffff00;font-family: verdana,geneva;">Everyone posting here is either a whine or a nerf. Some class has something i don't have and they killed me faster than i could say [I cannot control my vocabulary]? There's tonnes of posts on here about decap , rangers ,HT , overpowered healers , wards, Track .. why ??? just remove all class permitations from the game.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;color: #ffff00;font-family: verdana,geneva;"><i>Make all classes do exactly the same - that would make everyone happy no ? then you can feel REALLY stupid when someone kills you.  All classes heals , track , HT , Snipe , Decap.</i></span></p><p><b><span style="font-size: x-small;color: #ffff00;font-family: verdana,geneva;">Personally i think admins should BAN anyone asking for a nerf of any kind. People like that are the cause of the state of the game. Crying about small things their classes can't do.</span></b></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;color: #ffff00;font-family: verdana,geneva;"> It's a food chain out there , rock - paper - scicors. Some classes are just not able to kill others. Live with it or reroll.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;color: #ffff00;font-family: verdana,geneva;">This is why my ranger is so useless now that i can't use my "amazing arrow" when i don't have LoS. I can't use my dps focus in PvP. I lose my incombat movement speed in PvP. I can't evac in PVP.And my spike damage has been near halved.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;color: #ffff00;font-family: verdana,geneva;"> Seriously ... stop asking for nerfs already... it's getting old... and you're fcuking up the game.</span></p></blockquote>HAHA I totally agree.  This game has to many ppl crying for this and that.  I think the game is just fine, well actually i liked it better before alot of the nerfs.  Anyways, DEVS!!! Leave the game alone, its just fine the way it is.

wvorster
12-26-2007, 04:52 PM
<p>Izzy - that's game mechanics that are BROKEN - not needing nerfs , don't overreact <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> - i died to disabling strike many times in KJ.</p>

-Arctura-
12-26-2007, 08:20 PM
<cite>Izzypop wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>wvorster wrote:</cite><blockquote><p><span style="font-size: x-small;font-family: verdana,geneva;color: #ffff00;">Yeah ! You heard me !</span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;font-family: verdana,geneva;color: #ffff00;">Everyone posting here is either a whine or a nerf. Some class has something i don't have and they killed me faster than i could say [I cannot control my vocabulary]? There's tonnes of posts on here about decap , rangers ,HT , overpowered healers , wards, Track .. why ??? just remove all class permitations from the game.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;font-family: verdana,geneva;color: #ffff00;"><i>Make all classes do exactly the same - that would make everyone happy no ? then you can feel REALLY stupid when someone kills you.  All classes heals , track , HT , Snipe , Decap.</i></span></p><p><i><span style="font-size: x-small;color: #cc0000;">How about the ability to charm iksar in KJ? </span></i></p><p><img src="http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f255/LokiLaughs2much/graph.jpg" border="0" alt="" width="800" height="500" /></p><p><b><span style="font-size: x-small;font-family: verdana,geneva;color: #ffff00;">Personally i think admins should BAN anyone asking for a nerf of any kind. People like that are the cause of the state of the game. Crying about small things their classes can't do.</span></b></p><p><b><span style="font-size: x-small;color: #ff0000;">I should be banned.  I asked for disabling strike on KJ mobs to be nerfed.  I'm a sad crybaby nerfherder.  </span></b></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;font-family: verdana,geneva;color: #ffff00;"> It's a food chain out there , rock - paper - scicors. Some classes are just not able to kill others. Live with it or reroll.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;color: #ff0000;">Coercer in KJ> All other classes, even Chuck Norris</span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;font-family: verdana,geneva;color: #ffff00;">This is why my ranger is so useless now that i can't use my "amazing arrow" when i don't have LoS. I can't use my dps focus in PvP. I lose my incombat movement speed in PvP. I can't evac in PVP.And my spike damage has been near halved.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;color: #ff0000;">Wow you rangers have it so tough now.  I feel so [I cannot control my vocabulary] sorry for you that you can't drop clothies in under 2 seconds anymore.  I'm just glad I still play an overpowered no skill solo PvP class.  Guardians have it so great and so easy in solo pvp every day I watch rangers complain over the chat channels about how hard things are for them now I feel so bad for those poor defenseless little rangers I start to cry.  I just feel so guilty about being able to solo so easy as a guardian while more difficult to play weaker solo pvp classes like rangers have to struggle so hard to get a kill.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;font-family: verdana,geneva;color: #ffff00;"> Seriously ... stop asking for nerfs already... it's getting old... and you're fcuking up the game.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;color: #ff0000;">You are correct sir.  Nerfherding is always wrong.  I take back what I previously said.  There is nothing wrong with charmed mob dps in KJ and this kind of pvp dps is perfectly reasonable.</span></p><p><img src="http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f255/LokiLaughs2much/graph.jpg" border="0" alt="" width="800" height="500" /></p></blockquote></blockquote>(( lol another thread falls victim to the charmed Jungle mob hijackings hehe <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Bluu
12-28-2007, 02:35 AM
Nerf the above poster! ^^jk <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> The OP does have a point... and I tell ya the moment they take away the class variety in the game is the moment i leave the game. I think the devs know what they are doing in terms of class balancing since they see the big picture.... so lets just trust them for once, k? In the mean time let us proceed with the repetative poking eachother with pointy objects and hurling flaming fireballs in eachother's general direction <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />