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drastix
12-18-2007, 03:10 PM
Hey guys, I've been playing MMO's (daoc/wow) hardcore for 6+ years now (always PvP), so I'll try to make this post a little better than your average noob spamming "WHAT SHOULD I ROLL" in a 3 line post.  I'm looking for some well thought-out advice, so I'll try to be as specific as possible.  Of course, I basically <i>am</i> asking "what should I try out," but I'll give you some guidelines that should help you experienced d00ds give some better answers.  Btw, I have already played a brig to T3, and swash & zerk to T2 (but not really seriously, just to get a feel for the game), but I'm not against rerolling one to PvP properly with.  I am also a firm believer that while all classes in every MMO may be "good" at one thing or another, there are always imbalances when it comes to solo play.  Sure, being the "best class for solo PvP" is great and I have no problem with it, but for the record, I'd also be very open to trying out a class that has great solo PvP potential, but may not be as popular because it can take skill to reach that potential and truly shine.  I am willing to put in the time to learn my class and max it's potential.  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/908627bbe5e9f6a080977db8c365caff.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />  So, with that in mind...What would be good for me to try out considering the following:<b>1)  I solo.</b>  I prefer to solo PvP, which I guess is good, because atm I don't have any buds that are playing with me <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img mce_tsrc=" />" /><b>2)  Will be PvPing at T2 exclusively (for now).  </b>I'd like to get a toon decked out for T2 PvP and just focus on that for a good while.  I figure this will help me learn the game better and decide whether to stick with the class or not for good.  So, for now, base your answers on T2 PvP exclusively.<b>3)  I am willing to put a lot of time and effort into my toon.  </b>I am willing to level up tradeskills and do gathering to pay for my gear, etc.  I am willing to level lock and max out my AA exp.  I'd rather take the slow road to <i>success</i>.<b>4)  I prefer quick fights over long ones. </b> My PvP experience in all the games I've played has taught me that a long fight may be fun, but it almost always leaves the door open for other people to ruin a good 1v1 (i.e. the other guy gets help).  Basically, standing in 1 spot for too long on a PvP server is suicide.  So, I guess I'd strongly prefer a class with decent DPS, as opposed to a class that will win fights by "outlasting."<b>5)  I don't care about good/evil - I'll roll either; just wanna kill.  </b>nuff said.<b></b>Some classes that I thought looked possibly interesting are swash/brig/assassin/ranger/monk/bruiser/wizard/zerker.  Tbh, they looked interesting because they are really the only classes that I know <i>anything</i> about lol <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/499fd50bc713bfcdf2ab5a23c00c2d62.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />Anyways, what should I consider, and why?   ~thanks!

Darken_St
12-18-2007, 03:25 PM
Locking and staying in Tier 2 is not longer an option. If you pvp in tier 2 you WILL level up, recent changes have made it so PvP kills that con yield xp, always. Now to your questions.I am not a d00d, and in fact despise leet speek. But thats beside the point.1) You have already nailed 2 of the better soloing classes with you brigand and swashy.Other good soloers include monk/bruiser, sk, melee warden/fury, ranger/assassin, dirge, these are all good solo pvpers. Troubador sort of fails here at solo pvp in my eyes since their buffs don't buff their own primary dmg (melee), dirges do.2) See my opening remark, t2 pvp locking is toast, I advise you to max aa at 10 if you can and then keep it maxed as fast as possible pvp will move you beyond tier 2.3) Max aa at 10 if thats your playstyle (I usually catch myself at about 25, and max by 40 but I am not as "hardcore" as some consider themselves). Keep it maxxed as you move up, cause you will move up.4) A Melee Warden might be a good idea for this. They last for freaking ever.Welcome to EQ2 PvP version something.something.Alexis*smiles*Edited- For massive spelling and grammatical errors, lesson- don't type this early.

drastix
12-18-2007, 03:38 PM
Yeh, I know I can't stay T2 forever now that PvP=exp.  I guess what I was saying is that I would try to max out AA's and then all other exp I get would be solely from PvP kills - just to slow down the leveling process as much as possible so I'd have a good amount of time for lvls 15ish-22ish to PvP in.And forgive me for being a noob, but by "max AAs at 10" you mean turn in a bunch of quests at 10 so I get a lotta AA exp all at once right?I think you misunderstood #4 - I do NOT want a class that "lasts forever"  <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />   I wanna get in - get my kill - get out!  So I'm guess I can exclude melee warden  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />Thanks a ton for your suggestions!

Darken_St
12-18-2007, 03:54 PM
I guess I did misinterpret the last point. As for maxxing out AA at 10, there are "tricks" to it that involve finding a guild and making friends. You see, you get aa xp for critters killed by higher levels, even if it says you will not get credit or xp. So having a lvl 40 person kill the EL dock people for you is like 5aa itself. Then have a higher character do the Sinking Sands AA people and with a few of your quests you hit 15 aa at lvl 10. I have never personally done this but I know it is regularly done. Once your aa is maxxed, whenever you get there, its not too hard to get 1.5aa per level from then on out.I personally am just about to get the el/ss thing done for me at lvl 26, I have 26aa so itll propel me a bit closer to where I need to be. My Warden will do things as they come. she just caught herself at 39 (as in 39aa at 39).Alexis^_^

drastix
12-18-2007, 04:01 PM
can you AA lvl be higher than your char lvl?  if so, what is the cap?

Raidyen
12-18-2007, 04:35 PM
AA Cap is 1.5 x your level.

Novusod
12-18-2007, 05:03 PM
I think what you are looking for is a good "twitch factor" toon. It seems You are looking for a class where you can set up all your attacks and kill quickly with skill. A swashbuckler can pull this off but an Assassin can do it even better. Most noobs typically go for fury or swash because they are more forgiving. Fame and glory goes to assassins who know what they are doing. If you just want a real challenge just for the heck of it go for a bruiser or troub. Bruiser can't track enemies and Troubs are hard to get the hang of.On a side note gear means a lot in EQ2 and the best lowbie gear is in Timerous Deep.

drastix
12-18-2007, 05:06 PM
How do I get to Timorous Deep (is that an ROK zone?)

Novusod
12-18-2007, 05:08 PM
<cite>drastix wrote:</cite><blockquote>How do I get to Timorous Deep (is that an ROK zone?)</blockquote>Best bet is to just pick it as your starting city if you have RoK.

drastix
12-18-2007, 05:15 PM
can i get there without ROK expansion?   really didnt wanna spend the $$$ on it just yet.........

Novusod
12-18-2007, 05:29 PM
It is silly not to buy RoK because it includes the entire game for $40 while you could end up buying $30 for Original + $30 for DoF + $30 for Kos + $40 for EoF + $40 more for RoK + $20 in adventure packs. Don't get swindled by SoE. It is one of the biggest mistakes new players make. Don't pay more for less game. Get RoK, it is the only real option. You can't start in Timorous Deep without it and you won't have access to the best gear either.

Novusod
12-18-2007, 05:43 PM
And one more thing. Don't buy from Sony's store. Use this link:<a href="http://www.direct2drive.com/6/5331/product/Buy-EverQuest-2-Rise-of-Kunark-All-In-One-Pack-Download" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.direct2drive.com/6/5331/...e-Pack-Download</a>Whole game $40. If you buy anything else then you are that typical noob. There is reason WoW has 8 million subs and Eq2 has less than 200k. It has nothing to do with game play. It is because you need ESP to figure out how to buy the dam game.

drastix
12-18-2007, 06:57 PM
is the ROK loot for T2 better than Mastercrafted stuff that T2 ppl usually get?

Novusod
12-18-2007, 07:04 PM
Some T2 RoK loot is better than T3 master crafted though not everybody knows about where to get the best stuff.

drastix
12-18-2007, 11:27 PM
One class that really interested me was Ranger...I know they've been nerfed recently, so everyone is down on them... but I've read a lotta recent posts saying stuff like "they are still very good, it just takes a little more skill to master them; but once you do, they own..."   Any truth to this, or do they just flat out suck now?

Winter12345
12-18-2007, 11:38 PM
<cite>drastix wrote:</cite><blockquote>One class that really interested me was Ranger...I know they've been nerfed recently, so everyone is down on them... but I've read a lotta recent posts saying stuff like "they are still very good, it just takes a little more skill to master them; but once you do, they own..."   Any truth to this, or do they just flat out suck now?</blockquote>Rangers rock, i have a t2 one as shown in my sig and a t7 one, both i use for pvp. They are a little faulty at the starting lvls but once you are 15+ you get some pretty high dps moves that can own someone in a matter of seconds. If you have mc gear (they now made mc gear better from one of the recent updates) or RoK treasured gear and full adept III's at the minimum you can still kill alot of freeps with ease.