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Shindah
12-15-2007, 08:59 AM
<p>I have never seen so many locked threads within say 100 posts in the history of the pvp discussion boards.</p><p>I have been around since EQ2 launch. I dont post often, But read them daily.</p><p>Does this Massive amount of locked threads not point to the fact this is the biggest Event (Good or Bad) that has happened in the small history of EQ2 PVP?????????????</p><p>call for class nerfs etc seem so trivial now lol</p><p>Seems obvious to me in my opinion from reading posts over the last few months that a change was needed. but a thought out change with an ingame poll etc might have been a better option. maybe im wrong but the massive amounts of response, And the sheer amount of Moderator damage control etc (as in locked -merged topics)seems to point to a MAJOR crossroad in the future of pvp servers. hope for all us pvp lovers T1 to T8 it is sorted out.</p><p>example brigs are overpowered posts were many and never got locked or merged like this has been...</p><p>please dont answer with for or against posts, Just weather or not you agree that this is the biggest change ever or not...</p><p>Cheers  and take care !</p>

ckl
12-15-2007, 09:03 AM
I don't see Seliri's most recent post, so I can only assume that was deleted, too. Guess they couldn't merge it with the existing thread, since, you know, they locked that one, too. See the "PVP = Gone, time to quit" thread.

Rutaq
12-15-2007, 10:27 AM
<cite>Shindah wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I have never seen so many locked threads within say 100 posts in the history of the pvp discussion boards.</p><p>I have been around since EQ2 launch. I dont post often, But read them daily.</p><p>Does this Massive amount of locked threads not point to the fact this is the biggest Event (Good or Bad) that has happened in the small history of EQ2 PVP?????????????</p><p>call for class nerfs etc seem so trivial now lol</p><p>Seems obvious to me in my opinion from reading posts over the last few months that a change was needed. but a thought out change with an ingame poll etc might have been a better option. maybe im wrong but the massive amounts of response, And the sheer amount of Moderator damage control etc (as in locked -merged topics)seems to point to a MAJOR crossroad in the future of pvp servers. hope for all us pvp lovers T1 to T8 it is sorted out.</p><p>example brigs are overpowered posts were many and never got locked or merged like this has been...</p><p>please dont answer with for or against posts, Just weather or not you agree that this is the biggest change ever or not...</p><p>Cheers  and take care !</p></blockquote><p>This is a big change but I don't know if it can be classified as the biggest ever.  I remember that the EVAC change was pretty big and flooded the forums and the the cluster of changes made for EoF was big news too.</p><p>   This is the case of a big change and alot of passionate people debating back and forth.  I am as guilty as anyone, just go check the threads and count the number of unique posters and you will find it pretty low.   There is a core group of 10 or so people that are jumping from post to post to debate each other.</p><p>   I think the locking is more due to the MODs are getting tired of the personal attacks that have become common on the forums for the last year or so and are putting a stop to it.</p>

Echgar
12-15-2007, 02:14 PM
<cite>Shindah wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I have never seen so many locked threads within say 100 posts in the history of the pvp discussion boards.</p></blockquote>Yeah, umm ... thanks for giving us another one. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />In general, if you have feedback about the moderation of the forums, it is better to just send one of us a private message.  Threads such as this tend to be a magnet for anger against the moderation staff and tends to not be all that constructive.Clearly the recent changes for level locking have caused quite a bit of discussion (both pro and con I might add).  There has been some problems with personal attacks, insults, namecalling, and just plain trolling that we have had to moderate though that hasn't actually been the biggest challenge.What has been the hardest is the number of people that want their spin on the level locking changes to be heard, so they start a brand new thread for their five minutes of fame.  The same participants flock to the new thread, make the same arguments, fling the same insults, then it starts all over again when someone decides they have the best idea on the planet with regards to level locking that they need to share so a new thread begins. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />What's wrong with a bunch of threads talking about this change?  Within reason, nothing -- you are all very passionate about these changes and we want to allow you a place to discuss these changes in a constructive and courteous manner.  The problem is, where two threads or five threads may be just fine, we have been seeing far more threads than that popping up and they are typically about the same, core issue -- level locking.  It results in issues about topics other than level locking (PvP in Frostfell Village for example) getting bumped down the page pretty quickly, which is unfortunate.Some threads have had such a unique spin on the topic that we have tried to allow it to stand on its own, but the reality is almost all the threads claiming to be unique are just another one of the "I really, really, really like the changes" or "I really, really, really hate the changes."  As I mentioned, we're happy to discuss something we do via a private message -- aside from Gnobrin before he's had his morning coffee, we don't bite.So why all the locked threads?  Well, we do actually dislike having to remove threads as we have no real interest in "hiding" your criticism about issues.  We also use the locks as a way to show everyone we are serious about the forum rules and hope that it sends the right message to the community with what we want to see (and not see).I understand that some of you think the moderation staff is evil -- it's the unfortunate side effect of enforcing rules.  We really do want what is best for the community and we appreciate those of you that recognize that and work with us. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />