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Spider
12-11-2007, 03:25 PM
<p>I was one of the first locks ever.  I was among the inventors of debt farming.  AA was not even an option til lvl 20 when I was born and at lvl 18 my LK faction was maxed.  At lvl 23 I had 6 aa.  Now at 45 I have 84aa.  That is but a simple example of what a lock becomes after over a year and a half.</p><p>I was a die hard fan of the Vox server.  I know its history intimately.  I was one of those who screamed at all the player masses not to partake of the rush to raid guilds as they were scams by third party botter companies and station exchange sell outs.  I slew some of my home cities most successful end game pvp'r/raiders when they were whelps still living in Qeynos, long before they betrayed (i.e. the original Santos).   I can not tell you all the history you get to enjoy and be part of if you play a server for a long period of time.  The whole time, I was part of that growing history, but no more.  </p><p>There came nights that in T4-6 I could not find anyone to battle.  One night, 2 hours I spent combing zones with track only to find 2 enemy players, i killed one, the other finished me off.   It was fun, but at the same time I realized it would probably be another 2 hours before I could find anyone else and this was during peak hours on a weekend night!</p><p>One of my kids wanted to roll a new toon and they knew they could not choose Vox as I didnt allow them access to my bank, to many bad experiences with valuables coming up missing, even whole strongboxes that vanished. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  </p><p>Well, my youngest was rolling his toon and I glanced at the server list and noticed that Vox was the only 'light' server on the list, that almost all the others were Heavy load.  As days rolled past, this ate at me and I kept watching that list over and over.  Vox never budged.  Often it was the only light and during peak times, it was the only light load server.  </p><p>My best friend, my wife, we discussed rolling up on Nagafen to try it out.  I remembered a wife replying to one of my posts about Vox being great and she had reported that her and her husband became more happy with the game when they left Vox and rolled up on Nagafen as it has more life to it.</p><p>We decided to give it a shot and here is what I have come to learn.</p><p>Im glad we moved!  Vox really did suck and really does suck.  Bots dont even farm Vox and havent in months!  Bots are a symptom of a strong game player base.  Everywhere I went on Nagafen, player congestion!  It was and has been so refreshing!  EFP, suburbs of Freeport, Neriak, all of them players every where!  I dont have to spend night after night trying to find the server's sole weaponsmith to make me something!  Crafter competition exists on Nagafen!  Player competition exists on Nagafen!  Things that I had forgotten once existed on Vox.  There is players in all tier ranges, too!  Not just end game players saying "level up!".  </p><p>I already have bonded with my Nagafen toon.  I miss my beloved over acheiving T5 lock, Spider, but my Nagafen toon has a world to partake of, not a desolate lonely existence to play out on Vox.</p><p>I have /feedbacked and begged Sony to do something about Vox.  The player base there doesnt even realize how bad it really is.  Spider was a T5 pvp adventure lock, but she is a T8 alchemist!  Through her I experienced both T5 and T8.  I know how bad the T8 population is, too, as I was all over the crafter quests and RoK zones when they launched.  Even the T8 population is weak and crumbling.  </p><p>I can not transfer Spider off of Vox, even though I never partaken of the Station Exchange offered by the server.  I had to throw it all away and let me tell you, it has been painful, but worth it.  I hope someday I will be able to reunite Spider with a populated server.</p>

serilis
12-11-2007, 04:03 PM
Vox is and will be a dead server until it truly is put to rest by sony. The only people left are the t8's who invested so much into their characters that they still login to raid.The only thing the players can do is let newcomers know that vox isnt worth playing on, but I'm sure they will figure it out after not being able to find a group. ever. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/ed515dbff23a0ee3241dcc0a601c9ed6.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />

Armironhead
12-11-2007, 04:43 PM
<p>Man -- bashing vox is so like 3 months ago.  Right now, t7-8 pvp on vox imo is very good.  As I understand it t2-3 pvp is also good.   Sure we don't have much pvp at the other tiers but that is not a problem unique to vox.  Also while I'll give you that it is not one endless pvp fight on vox, then again <i>we</i> do not have zoning problems, issues with our brokers and endless whinning about plat sellers.  In general, while vox has had its ups and downs, right now it is a decent place to be, especially if you are interested in the pve game as well as the pvp.  Now, if your solely into the pvp <i>and</i> can deal with the server issues then naggy is the place for you.  Of course you may not actually <i>get</i> to play because of those "ehem" server issues, but that is the price of being on the highest population server.  Just keep in mind that while your twiddling your thumbs zoning we are actually playing.</p>

serilis
12-11-2007, 04:49 PM
meh, I'll deal with the occasional long zone time over zoning fast into a barren wasteland of no players. =)And I'll also take the broker lag over having to pay outrages prices for everything on vox because there is hardly any competition on the broker.:twiddles thumbs in glee:

Zaci
12-11-2007, 05:18 PM
hmmmm, can I transfer to vox and do all the solo quests then transfer back to naggy?<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Roald
12-11-2007, 05:20 PM
<cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I was one of the first locks ever.  </p></blockquote>O rly?

Armironhead
12-11-2007, 05:30 PM
<cite>serilis wrote:</cite><blockquote>meh, I'll deal with the occasional long zone time over zoning fast into a barren wasteland of no players. =)And I'll also take the broker lag over having to pay outrages prices for everything on vox because there is hardly any competition on the broker.:twiddles thumbs in glee:</blockquote>Outrageous broker prices?  Hardly.  In fact, with rok all of the quest rewards are no-trade, so its easy to become a semi-tweek for free.  Also, if your a newbee, it is much easier to compete on vox.  On naggy there are hordes of folk looking to stomp on you, and if you are new you dont have access to the bank of an older toon so its very hard to compete with the twinks.  While on vox -- well if you're really desperate you got access to exchange to level the playing field between newbee and olderster.  As for it being a barren wasteland -- well, sometimes I turely wish that was the case.  Cant get away from the [Removed for Content] exiles and queens guard in rok to do some questing.  Now of course, I like to think that I aggrevate the exiles and qg just a little bit.  But its all fun and games until somebody loses a title.  -- But in all seriousness only the mid tiers these days are somewhat barren, but that is because of locking, so it is not a problem unique to vox.  With the modification of locking I expect that the t2 lockers are going to be pushed though the higher tiers in the realtively near future so this too will change on vox.  So all in all -- get with the times.  Vox is holding its own and then some.

Kalyai
12-11-2007, 05:58 PM
<cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I was one of the first locks ever.  I was among the inventors of debt farming.  AA was not even an option til lvl 20 when I was born and at lvl 18 my LK faction was maxed.  At lvl 23 I had 6 aa.  Now at 45 I have 84aa.  That is but a simple example of what a lock becomes after over a year and a half.</p><p>I was a die hard fan of the Vox server.  I know its history intimately.  I was one of those who screamed at all the player masses not to partake of the rush to raid guilds as they were scams by third party botter companies and station exchange sell outs.  I slew some of my home cities most successful end game pvp'r/raiders when they were whelps still living in Qeynos, long before they betrayed (i.e. the original Santos).   I can not tell you all the history you get to enjoy and be part of if you play a server for a long period of time.  The whole time, I was part of that growing history, but no more.  </p><p>There came nights that in T4-6 I could not find anyone to battle.  One night, 2 hours I spent combing zones with track only to find 2 enemy players, i killed one, the other finished me off.   It was fun, but at the same time I realized it would probably be another 2 hours before I could find anyone else and this was during peak hours on a weekend night!</p><p>One of my kids wanted to roll a new toon and they knew they could not choose Vox as I didnt allow them access to my bank, to many bad experiences with valuables coming up missing, even whole strongboxes that vanished. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" width="15" height="15" />  </p><p>Well, my youngest was rolling his toon and I glanced at the server list and noticed that Vox was the only 'light' server on the list, that almost all the others were Heavy load.  As days rolled past, this ate at me and I kept watching that list over and over.  Vox never budged.  Often it was the only light and during peak times, it was the only light load server.  </p><p>My best friend, my wife, we discussed rolling up on Nagafen to try it out.  I remembered a wife replying to one of my posts about Vox being great and she had reported that her and her husband became more happy with the game when they left Vox and rolled up on Nagafen as it has more life to it.</p><p>We decided to give it a shot and here is what I have come to learn.</p><p>Im glad we moved!  Vox really did suck and really does suck.  Bots dont even farm Vox and havent in months!  Bots are a symptom of a strong game player base.  Everywhere I went on Nagafen, player congestion!  It was and has been so refreshing!  EFP, suburbs of Freeport, Neriak, all of them players every where!  I dont have to spend night after night trying to find the server's sole weaponsmith to make me something!  Crafter competition exists on Nagafen!  Player competition exists on Nagafen!  Things that I had forgotten once existed on Vox.  There is players in all tier ranges, too!  Not just end game players saying "level up!".  </p><p>I already have bonded with my Nagafen toon.  I miss my beloved over acheiving T5 lock, Spider, but my Nagafen toon has a world to partake of, not a desolate lonely existence to play out on Vox.</p><p>I have /feedbacked and begged Sony to do something about Vox.  The player base there doesnt even realize how bad it really is.  Spider was a T5 pvp adventure lock, but she is a T8 alchemist!  Through her I experienced both T5 and T8.  I know how bad the T8 population is, too, as I was all over the crafter quests and RoK zones when they launched.  Even the T8 population is weak and crumbling.  </p><p>I can not transfer Spider off of Vox, even though I never partaken of the Station Exchange offered by the server.  I had to throw it all away and let me tell you, it has been painful, but worth it.  I hope someday I will be able to reunite Spider with a populated server.</p></blockquote><p>awww so that is where you went!  i saw someone running around with Erotic and mistook him for you!</p><p>Sorry to see you go, gl on Naggy...</p><p>Vox is not as bad off as you say though IMO...I enjoy it the way it is, and actually wish T8 was a little quieter so I could get my quests done!!</p>

Gimet
12-11-2007, 06:14 PM
<p>Your point of this thread? To say Vox sucks? To tell people not to come? To further make us die in our server? Or is it to prove you're an idiot?</p><p>Level 45?! There are only 2 places you can find good PvP on a regular bases....Beginning teir, and end teir. Any person educated enough of their server (Vox in particular) would know this. So, you sitting at level 45, when of the most boring PvE levels and dead PvP ranges, and saying how Vox sucks only proves stupidity of you.</p><p>If you don't like the server, fine. LEAVE. Don't drag your decisions into an official forum to simply say how stupid one server is and how you love the next. Not everyone likes Nagafen, those would be the people left on Venekor and Vox. This time you've [Removed for Content] me off. Nagafen this, Nagafen that, yet Vox and Venekor are constantly getting the bad end of the stick to people of Nagafen's stupid pride of their server.</p><p>You like your server, I like mine.</p><p>I think my server is better, you like yours.</p><p>Let's agree to disagree and leave the server bashing on YOUR SERVER IN GAME. Do not post this [Removed for Content] on official forums. It does not benefit ANYBODY, it only harms the people who like their server. Who are you to say Vox sucks? Becaus eyou don't like it, you're going to lable it as a bad server? What if someone went up to your girlfriend or wife and said,</p><p>"I like women with petite noses, and brown hair, and blue eyes. Your girlfriend has a huge nose in my opinion, has blond hair and green eyes. She's very ugly."</p><p>In essense that's what people do to Vox and Venekor all of the time. People on Vox and Venekor like the server, and who are you to judge the bad or good things about the server by insulting it based on your needs or likes?</p><p>You don't, you shouldn't, and nobody else should either.</p>

Quicksote
12-11-2007, 07:14 PM
Warning the community to not join a dead server isn't stupid.  I wouldn't recomend anyone to start on vox now.  Sitting for hours lfg or trying to find someone to pk is not fun and would turn off new players from the game.  The population is extremely small, and there is no way to transfer off.  However, if you roll up on nagafen or venekor and decide it's too busy you can transfer to vox for free. 

Gimet
12-11-2007, 07:27 PM
<cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite><blockquote>Warning the community to not join a dead server isn't stupid.  I wouldn't recomend anyone to start on vox now.  Sitting for hours lfg or trying to find someone to pk is not fun and would turn off new players from the game.  The population is extremely small, and there is no way to transfer off.  However, if you roll up on nagafen or venekor and decide it's too busy you can transfer to vox for free.  </blockquote><p>One of the reasons our server is dead is because people constantly tell peopel not to join. It does nothing but kill our server. It does not take "hours" to look for a gorup either. Once you spend a decent amount of time on the game, and by decent I mean less than a week, you can find friends who will gladly group with you often. There have never been many times where I logged on and none of my good friends not been on. And for the last god [I cannot control my vocabulary] time, Vox is not DEAD. Low population is good enough thank you. And aside form early in the morning, you can find PvP, and PvE groups.</p><p>I would recomend people to join Vox from my experiences on the server. And by all means, act as if you know what happens on Vox. Unless I'm a lucky son of a [I cannot control my vocabulary]....meaning being lucky 24/7 and living a blissful life on the server, I think a newbie would enjoy their stay. There would be no need to transfer off if everyone else didn't condemn our server to death. If you don't like the server, fine. But once you leave don't pretend to know what happens on a daily bases and say "Don't join Vox." People do this too often. I wouldn't mind much if people simply said "Vox has a low population" because it is the truth. Want me to say it again? We have a low population. Want me to type it five times fast? But Vox is not dead, Vox has quality guilds and players, Vox does not suck, not everyone uses SE, and the exagerated numbers people come up with daily is rediculous.</p><p>It's really [Removed for Content] me off.</p>

Roald
12-11-2007, 08:14 PM
Enlocke, why don't you tell us how you really feel.

HerbertWalker
12-11-2007, 08:16 PM
<cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Let's agree to disagree and leave the server bashing on YOUR SERVER IN GAME. Do not post this [I cannot control my vocabulary] on official forums. It does not benefit ANYBODY, it only harms the people who like their server.</p></blockquote><p>Bashing other servers benefits us on Nagafen.   More targets for us.</p>

serilis
12-11-2007, 08:19 PM
<cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite></cite><p> I wouldn't mind much if people simply said "Vox has a low population" because it is the truth. Want me to say it again? We have a low population. Want me to type it five times fast? But Vox is not dead, Vox has quality guilds and players, Vox does not suck, not everyone uses SE, and the exagerated numbers people come up with daily is rediculous.</p><p>It's really [Removed for Content] me off.</p></blockquote>Vox is dead.and no, new players shouldn't bother rolling there over any of the populated servers. I know you're trying to candy coat your feeling for vox, but I just leveled a character from 1-70 there over the last few months and there literally is noone to group with till t7-8not once did I ever join an FG group, an ROV group, an RE group. All the way to 70 I soloed with my lfg tag on. The time I did group was when a higher level was mentoring his new twink and grabbed me to tag along a few times. Vox is dead.

Gimet
12-11-2007, 08:55 PM
<cite>serilis wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite></cite><p> I wouldn't mind much if people simply said "Vox has a low population" because it is the truth. Want me to say it again? We have a low population. Want me to type it five times fast? But Vox is not dead, Vox has quality guilds and players, Vox does not suck, not everyone uses SE, and the exagerated numbers people come up with daily is rediculous.</p><p>It's really [Removed for Content] me off.</p></blockquote>Vox is dead.and no, new players shouldn't bother rolling there over any of the populated servers. I know you're trying to candy coat your feeling for vox, but I just leveled a character from 1-70 there over the last few months and there literally is noone to group with till t7-8not once did I ever join an FG group, an ROV group, an RE group. All the way to 70 I soloed with my lfg tag on. The time I did group was when a higher level was mentoring his new twink and grabbed me to tag along a few times. Vox is dead.</blockquote><p>I have never found the issues you have described myself...and maybe it's because I'm a conjuror and just solo zones if I find myself beign lonely....but Vox is not dead....and if it were that only further proves the stupidity of people who put down Vox and Venekor.</p><p>What do you all gain from saying Vox and Venekor suck? Newbies. Newbies just to add on to the tons of people you already have. That is all people on Nagafen brag about, we have tons of players. Tons of players we have. Our server has tons of players. Players tons our server has. Tell me, would it hurt you so much it even 100 people decided to roll on Vox and Venekor? I really don't think so.</p><p>Your population is fine, the two V servers' populations need to grow. People constantly trying to get newbies from rolling on thos esrevers benefits NO ONE. Every person on Nagafen couldn't care less if you gained more players. You guys have said it MANY times that you population is great. Would it hurt you so much if our servers started to grow and your growth stunted for even a month? I don't think so. You all are not benefiting anyone in making players join Nagafen instea dof the two V servers. It's that simple.</p><p>Vox and Venekor need people, and people aren't coming. Nagafen doesn't need anymore people, and people ARE coming. Does that make sense at all?</p>

Myxzptlk
12-11-2007, 09:36 PM
<cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>serilis wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite></cite><p> I wouldn't mind much if people simply said "Vox has a low population" because it is the truth. Want me to say it again? We have a low population. Want me to type it five times fast? But Vox is not dead, Vox has quality guilds and players, Vox does not suck, not everyone uses SE, and the exagerated numbers people come up with daily is rediculous.</p><p>It's really [Removed for Content] me off.</p></blockquote>Vox is dead.and no, new players shouldn't bother rolling there over any of the populated servers. I know you're trying to candy coat your feeling for vox, but I just leveled a character from 1-70 there over the last few months and there literally is noone to group with till t7-8not once did I ever join an FG group, an ROV group, an RE group. All the way to 70 I soloed with my lfg tag on. The time I did group was when a higher level was mentoring his new twink and grabbed me to tag along a few times. Vox is dead.</blockquote><p>I have never found the issues you have described myself...and maybe it's because I'm a conjuror and just solo zones if I find myself beign lonely....but Vox is not dead....and if it were that only further proves the stupidity of people who put down Vox and Venekor.</p><p>What do you all gain from saying Vox and Venekor suck? Newbies. Newbies just to add on to the tons of people you already have. That is all people on Nagafen brag about, we have tons of players. Tons of players we have. Our server has tons of players. Players tons our server has. Tell me, would it hurt you so much it even 100 people decided to roll on Vox and Venekor? I really don't think so.</p><p>Your population is fine, the two V servers' populations need to grow. People constantly trying to get newbies from rolling on thos esrevers benefits NO ONE. Every person on Nagafen couldn't care less if you gained more players. You guys have said it MANY times that you population is great. Would it hurt you so much if our servers started to grow and your growth stunted for even a month? I don't think so. You all are not benefiting anyone in making players join Nagafen instea dof the two V servers. It's that simple.</p><p>Vox and Venekor need people, and people aren't coming. Nagafen doesn't need anymore people, and people ARE coming. Does that make sense at all?</p></blockquote><p>Dude, i wish that when i rolled on vox that someone had told me, yo' dude,vox is going to suck so bad in a few months, you're going to be bored as hell playing there, why don't you roll on a server that has a decent population, or just roll on pve server if that's what you want to do?"</p><p>It would have saved me hours of leveling and gearing up a 70 zerk and a 55 monk and of wasting time looking for pvp. </p><p>Bottom line is that vox sucks fat hairy poodle testes and any newbie that rolls there, well, unless they like the solo game or solo pve a bunch, or the rare occasional skirmish, better be prepared to waste their time and either quit the game, play with few, or roll a new toon. </p>

Mr1Point5
12-12-2007, 12:27 AM
This is weird. I can understand saying the Vox has a small pop, but to say it is dead is an outright lie. I never go anywhere, pvp or pve, without looking over my shoulder during combat. There's always a freep, lieing in wait, ready to jump me lol. When I get bored with questing, I can sit and chat and never stop laughing at the endless crazy stuff people are talking about. QH usually has some 70 exiles in it, TS griff in ant ALWAYS has a horde of freeps looking to kill me, and masses of 10-20's in TD. We do have a small population, but we are by no means dead. Not sure of the exact pop numbers, but if yer server has 100 ppl and my server only has 30 ppl that doesn't been my server is dead. Yeah, you have more ppl on your server than Vox. Wow. What do you want, a cookie? I have no trouble finding a grp for any of my toons (45 zerker, 26 wizzy, 12 fury), so either your toons sucked and noone wanted to grp with you or you're no anti-social to really look for one. If you know for a fact that Vox is dead, than give me some numbers to support that calm. Otherwise, shut up and stop bash in my server to beef up yours 8P.

serilis
12-12-2007, 01:12 AM
<cite>Mr1Point5 wrote:</cite><blockquote> I have no trouble finding a grp for any of my toons (45 zerker, 26 wizzy, 12 fury)</blockquote>speaking of flat out lies <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />

Kalyai
12-12-2007, 01:20 AM
<cite>serilis wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Mr1Point5 wrote:</cite><blockquote> I have no trouble finding a grp for any of my toons (45 zerker, 26 wizzy, 12 fury)</blockquote>speaking of flat out lies <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></blockquote><p>speak for yourself there....</p><p>I have toons in just about every tier... I am always seeing group for x instance/zone LFM, and when I want to group, I have no problem getting a group in or out of guild.</p><p>This server is not dead...it IS low pop, and it IS growing.  I am sorry if you and so many other people have such a problem with it, but Vox is NOT dead.  There are new players rolling on it every day.  I receive 5-10 guild requests daily from new players, or returning players.  </p><p>My guild, that 4 months ago was unable to put together enough players to get things done, now regularly fills up an x2 or more of players for any given task....</p><p>I don't understand why you and others insist on claiming the server is dead...I am truly sorry that you did not enjoy yourself here, but it is unnecessary for you to shout about things you have very little clue about.</p><p>Vox is NOT dead...so get over it, and stop trying to kill it off.</p>

Mr1Point5
12-12-2007, 01:33 AM
That's what we're talkin about. Are you following me around Vox, catelogin my grp activity? No? Then how do you know? You're using your own personnal experiences on Vox to label it dead. I seriously think it might be you. Maybe saying "lvl 32 guard lfg" isn't gonna catch anyones eye. Try saying "lvl 32 guard w/ twinked gear and 40aa" to make yourself stand out. Just because you cant find a grp in a low pop ( low, not dead!) server, doesn't mean that ppl aren't there. Maybe they just don't like you. To be honest, there is a time when I don't see many ppl on Vox. When I'm working 2nd shift, I log on around 12pm before work to harvest. Maybe ppl are on, but I'm not looking for a grp. I'm just trying to harvest without having to look over my should ever 5sec to see if a freep is sneaking up on me. If being able to harvest for an hour, at noon, without being jumped by 10 guys is what you call a dead server than our options just differ. Like I said before, Nag has a higher pop than Vox. OK. Yer cookie is in the mail. Just stop telling everyone it's dead without actually checking it out first.

Naglfar
12-12-2007, 06:51 AM
<p>I saw this problem on Gorenaire (rip)</p><p>People usualy choose the easier solution and transfer or reroll, and don't try to build something. I don't know why, but after changing server they're feeling proud of it and try to convince everybody their choice was the better one.</p><p>They're just followers, loud followers...</p><p>So, have fun on Vox, I hope you'll get more players, because nobody has interest to see a server die.</p>

Orthureon
12-12-2007, 01:36 PM
<p>Enlocke I feel your pain man, I was determined to stay on Vox until hell froze over. However, I have come to face the truth that Vox is very low population. I spend more time looking for people to fight then actually fighting. Not to mention sometimes once I find a target they run, and then I can see tumbleweeds blowing by. Or they will run once getting wupped (which is their playstyle). But it really hurts losing a kill when I don't have track lol.</p><p>I moved over to Nagafen aswell, I was very glad to see my pal Spider over there, aswell as a few other old friends from Vox. I believe in time Vox will truely die, but for now the remaining pop is to the extreme end of the level spectrum, either T2 or T7-8. Look at my signature below, I only have like 300 kills, and that is 55 levels worth. Also, I would never run from a fight if I started fighting back, or started it. Hell it got to the point where I was bored and had to fight high 60-70 toons when I was 50ish.</p><p>If you are wondering my toons are: Chameleon(53 Sin), Daemien (54 SK), Drakkonis (55 Inquisitor). I have fought you many times. Whatever happened to you,  you like vanished at a certain point lol?</p>

Killque
12-12-2007, 01:43 PM
<p>Moved over to Naggy myself from vox. Hated to do it, for several reasons. Not only the time I put into my vox toons, but that by me leaving im adding to the problem...</p><p>I cant exactly say that Im thrilled I left, but there is definatly more people. However, as for PVP, sometimes it seems that people dont want to pvp.. they just evac or run or you can tell they just want to grind. Nothing wrong with that, but thats just what ive noticed.</p><p>BTW, im now remembering how impossible furies are at the low tiers =/</p>

Spider
12-12-2007, 02:00 PM
<p>About 8 months ago, I took a 3 month break to recover from burn out.  Being as experienced in MMORPG playing as I have become over the years, I dont, like newer gamers, delete my toons before I cancel.  I knew I would be back, I just needed time to relax.  </p><p>When I came back about 5-6 months ago to Vox after having been there since launch already, I resumed playing my main pvp toon, Spider.  It was immediately apparent that Vox as a server was in need of some work.  </p><p>I hit the forums and let everyone know I could that Vox was a wonderful server, it was pvp and is the only server with all options out of all servers.  It has pve/pvp/role-playing and Station Exchange.  It is the only server that offers all of that and I couldnt understand why players would ignore having all of the options available and would limit themselves to other servers.  Station Exchange has a bad image, sadly, because to many players like to convince themselves that bots and plat buying dont happen on their non-SE servers, which in fact, it happens a great deal more.  </p><p>I kept hitting the forums and I even put up a post on Nagafen's community forum inviting newer players to Vox and letting everyone know it was a Free transfer off of Nagafen if they were unhappy with their high population.  </p><p>I really adored Vox.  Its where all my hard work for my toons had been spent.  Anyone who has worked hard on a toon on Vox is going to talk up the server because they do not want to admit it is a dying server.  Its in its death throws.  </p><p>There is now 8 tiers to EQ2.  Not just 1.  So many view the game as get to the end game asap and then gear out.  Im sorry I do not share a single minded view of a single tier.  I do, though, care about the mass of new players and the effect Vox has on their experiences with EQ2.  </p><p>Everquest 2 has so much more to offer than a dying population that congregates on end game lvls.  </p><p>I read others saying there is T2-3 pve/pvp on Vox, but they have not played T2-3 on Nagafen.  In comparison, there is almost no pve/pvp to be had on Vox except solo, which results in a hollow existence and your legacy echos into the Void, unheard.  </p><p>I make my posts in an effort to redirect new players and old players to let them know that Nagafen STILL offers what they wish Vox still offered.   Vox once upon a time offered everything and more than Nagafen.  It doesnt anymore.  Vox offers a small amount of pvp in the end game levels, that is it.  The greater the level cap becomes, the greater the distance newer players will suffer the grind on Vox to get high level so they can group regularly and enjoy adventure with others.  </p><p>Every time someone says the game will not raise the level cap anymore, I chuckle.  EQ2 is designed to cap at lvl 200 eventually and each year since launch they have added a new tier.  Imagine what life on Vox is going to be when the game caps at 90, or 100, or even higher.  Newer players will be that much more mislead and intimidated that they have to gind out all those levels with few to no players to group with until they cap out.  </p><p>Instead of trying to rescue Vox, I have turned my attention to /feedbacking and posting that Vox IS dying and it needs attention from SOE.  The issue needs addressed.  Only U.S .players can even use Station Exchange, yet no player on an SE server can transfer off of that server!  That is a ludicrous issue because toons/plat/gear are bought and sold every day on non-SE servers.  </p><p>I have not 'quit' Vox.  I only got rid of the pve toons I had there, they were useless to me and I needed character space to rebuild on Nagafen.  Spider is still in my roster, I cant bring myself to part from such a well developed toon.  Though she does not leave Neriak anymore, I just log in to say high to my vanishing small friend population there.</p><p>EVERY DAY I meet NEW TO EQ2 players on Nagafen and I smile.  Almost every day I meet someone who came to Nagafen from Vox, many of those who had to walk away from all their hard work on their toons on Vox because of the limited amount of action on Vox.</p><p>Since I moved to Nagafen, I have found it quite easy to pve AND pvp.  When I only knew anything about Vox and had never played Nagafen, I was under the impression that you couldnt pve quest or harvest on Nagafen.  That was some odd illusion my mind was wrapped around.  Now that I have been playing Nagafen, I know different and I quest easy and find plenty of time harvest.   </p><p>The thing I have learned is that Nagafen has life on it, not a pilgrim colony like Vox.</p>

Croniccaster
12-12-2007, 03:41 PM
   I have nothing at all against someone who decides to roll on another server. Might decide to give Naggy a try myself someday. Its good to have options. And maybe some people for whatever reason have different gaming experiences even if they play on the same server. But I really don't get the "Vox is dead" stuff. I have a lvl 72 conjuror (the most deadly solo pvp toon on the server), a lvl 37 Warden and a lvl23 ranger that I'm just getting started on. And I almost never have trouble finding something to do. Usually have trouble deciding which toon to play and which group to join.        Now granted I have taken the time to meet some people (thanks to Wildfire for all the raid invites btw).  And I'm in a guild that while small, is pretty active. But I'm not usually bored for long. I enjoy all aspects of the game. I like to solo/group/instance/raid/PVE/and PVP to go along with all the rest. Spices things up. And Vox lets me do all that. And during the slow times I can work on my pitiful harvesting skills. Now depending on your play style Vox may or may not be the server for you, but its sure as hell not dead.        All my toons are based in Kelithin and I've seen lots of new players there, especially since ROK. Of course I'm sure some are alts. I have always felt Vox to be a pretty balanced server between the different types of gameplay. But we certainly are low population and need more people. However if you read the boards seems like all servers have problems of one type or another.      To those that have left Vox, good luck to you and have fun. And if you want to make a post saying one reason you left was low population, fine. I actually enjoy reading other peoples experiences on different servers. But please don't come on here using words like "dead" and "wasteland" to describe Vox. Because if you use those words literally to  describe Vox you're wrong and lying, period. Or at least painting an inaccurate picture. And if those words truly describe most of your experience playing on Vox, I don't understand why. Anyway, no hard feelings and rock on.