PDA

View Full Version : PVP LOCKING =MONEY


Darman81
12-10-2007, 01:53 PM
This entire argument about locking is really strange to me. If its your hard earned money why the heck shouldnt you be able to lock. How many truly NEW players are there? I think very few! How many of you became bored with the PVE aspect of the game and wanted a new challenge so you rolled on a PVP server? I have no idea but thats exactly what I did along with several of my friends. Yes I get ganked and I dont like it. The way I see it these twinks worked to get where they are and I commend them for that. If they are smart and run in groups more power to them. Half the fun to me is trying to make my toons like them. Now if you read the subject field up top you may be wondering what the heck that has to do with what Im talking about. I know SOE has to be considering this. LOCKING =MONEY for SOE. Here I am one year ago on mistmoore with my level 70's bored to tears. Ok im gonna roll on a PVP server for some excitement but there is no way im deleting my 70's I worked so hard to build. What do I do? Low and behold I get a second account with all the add ons. Now your saying whats that have to do with locking! The first thing I notice after about a month of playing on Nagafen is different classes shine in different tiers. What this means is I need different characters for these tiers, therefore more character slots. Im here to pvp and if I want a twink in each tier thats my choice. I dont want to level out of a certain tier. I dont want xp for pvp kills. Not one of my toons has a title over a slayer. I rarely run in groups of more than two. Im sure Im the minority but I have Three accounts. I have three accounts because I lock at different tiers and I need the slots. This is fun to me. I can afford it and sony makes $540 bucks a year off of me in monthly dues alone. The people I run with also have multiple accounts and if there is no locking there is no need to have all those character slots. If im gonna level anyway then ill just have my one account and level normally. With expansions and all the goodies I figure im forking out $800 bucks a year and so are both my brothers. We are all over 40 with families. This is what we do for fun! Its a bunch of crap when people think that lockers run off new players. With ROK anyone can compete! The armor and jewelry is great. No need to add xp to PVP kills. If someone is going to quit because of getting ganked then maybe they should go back to PVE where it is safe! I have a lot of characters locked just for the fun of PVP. I know if im tired of questing with my T4 toons I can log onto my T2 toon and sit at the fair in DLW and get some action. I could care less about titles, I have all these accounts and all my slots because I want to have options at any given moment. If you guys want to flame me have at it! Im having a great time as it stands. I will gladly keep dishing out my $540 bucks a year to SOE. Just leave well enough alone and as had been said a thousand times. If you dont like the lockers level past them ! I love the lockers and I suck at PVP. If the pvp xp goes live SOE is throwing money away! There will be no need for me  to have multiple accounts. Flame on ladies and gentlemen its a free country!

Eybietie
12-10-2007, 01:58 PM
<cite>Darman81 wrote:</cite><blockquote>This entire argument about locking is really strange to me. If its your hard earned money why the heck shouldnt you be able to lock. How many truly NEW players are there? I think very few! How many of you became bored with the PVE aspect of the game and wanted a new challenge so you rolled on a PVP server? I have no idea but thats exactly what I did along with several of my friends. Yes I get ganked and I dont like it. The way I see it these twinks worked to get where they are and I commend them for that. If they are smart and run in groups more power to them. Half the fun to me is trying to make my toons like them. Now if you read the subject field up top you may be wondering what the heck that has to do with what Im talking about. I know SOE has to be considering this. LOCKING =MONEY for SOE. Here I am one year ago on mistmoore with my level 70's bored to tears. Ok im gonna roll on a PVP server for some excitement but there is no way im deleting my 70's I worked so hard to build.etc..</blockquote>hey darman81 - it would be nice if you sometimes hit the [ENTER] key for longertext passages. it would make it possible to read AND understand what youare trying to express here.i started it for you in the quote the rest is up to you.have a nice day.

Bojin
12-10-2007, 02:01 PM
   You're right, certain classes shine at certain lvls. <i>What you don't get is that is part of the problem. </i>The game wasn't designed with locked PvP in mind, so while toons are leveling up there is a huge difference in toon's strength. How many freaking t2 Wardens, or lvl 20 SKs, or lvl 24 Furies are there? Just more lame [Removed for Content] taking advantage of a flawed system. At least in end game only <i><b>Swashbucklers</b></i> are broken. Anyway, just lvl up join the endgame PvP scene, it's fun, and we'll all be happier in the long run!

Spyderbite
12-10-2007, 02:05 PM
<cite>Darman81 wrote:</cite><blockquote>The way I see it these twinks worked to get where they are and I commend them for that.</blockquote>So, basically, if I go and work really hard to get my black belt in the martial arts. I would have every right to hang out at the playground and smack 10 year olds around mercilessly since I worked very hard for my belt?That is the thinnest attempt at justification I have heard so far. If you are a cheerleader for level locking, you are not helping the twink's cause. You're making matters much, much worse.Not to mention.. this falls in to the "entitlement" category. Something very unpopular in the EQ2 community.

Darman81
12-10-2007, 02:07 PM
<p>Thanks for pointing out my terrible writing! I actually thought I was going to run out of space!<img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p>

Darman81
12-10-2007, 02:18 PM
<p>If I were that 10 yr. old I would get my friends and kick the crap out of that black belt! </p><p>Catch my drift!</p>

ckl
12-10-2007, 02:25 PM
<cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Darman81 wrote:</cite><blockquote>This entire argument about locking is really strange to me. If its your hard earned money why the heck shouldnt you be able to lock.How many truly NEW players are there? I think very few! How many of you became bored with the PVE aspect of the game and wanted a new challenge so you rolled on a PVP server? I have no idea but thats exactly what I did along with several of my friends. Yes I get ganked and I dont like it. The way I see it these twinks worked to get where they are and I commend them for that. If they are smart and run in groups more power to them. Half the fun to me is trying to make my toons like them. Now if you read the subject field up top you may be wondering what the heck that has to do with what Im talking about. I know SOE has to be considering this. LOCKING =MONEY for SOE.Here I am one year ago on mistmoore with my level 70's bored to tears.Ok im gonna roll on a PVP server for some excitement but there is no way im deleting my 70's I worked so hard to build.etc..</blockquote>I'm a petty gobshite</blockquote>Fixed.

Spyderbite
12-10-2007, 02:30 PM
<cite>Darman81 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p> If I were that 10 yr. old I would get my friends and kick the crap out of that black belt! </p><p>Catch my drift!</p></blockquote>Your "drift" has been brought up many times already. These "10 year olds" in question are still learning to play the game. Its easy for a red or orange con to mow through 20 people who barely have a grasp of the UI much less all the spells/cas that they've only received an hour earlier. Top that off with the fact that they are still learning their way around and I'm sure the group mechanics is still rather alien to them.It only takes about 3 hours to stumble in to level 10. It takes <b>a lot</b> longer to be efficient enough in PvP to take on a skilled veteran geared to the teeth.Still weak. Catch my drift?Come up with some new excuses.. these have already been hashed out many times before and dismissed.

ckl
12-10-2007, 02:33 PM
<cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Darman81 wrote:</cite><blockquote>The way I see it these twinks worked to get where they are and I commend them for that.</blockquote>So, basically, if I go and work really hard to get my black belt in the martial arts. I would have every right to hang out at the playground and smack 10 year olds around mercilessly since I worked very hard for my belt?That is the thinnest attempt at justification I have heard so far. If you are a cheerleader for level locking, you are not helping the twink's cause. You're making matters much, much worse.Not to mention.. this falls in to the "entitlement" category. Something very unpopular in the EQ2 community.</blockquote><p>Hmm. That analogy is bad, and not only because there are no PVP servers in real life, so you'd be staring at quite a bit of jail time.</p><p>More like if there was a karate tournament with different divisions: You can't really complain if you lose to someone else in the yellow belt division who had spent a lot of time learning and mastering all the training they had received up until that point, when you had gotten your own yellow belt six months earlier and had barely practiced at all.</p><p>This entitlement thing is no more than high level people thinking their playstyle is the only one that matters. It's already very common for end game raiders to feel superior to crafters in every sense, and apparently they're now lobbying to get more easy targets for PVP tokens. All there is to it.</p>

ckl
12-10-2007, 02:37 PM
<cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Darman81 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p> If I were that 10 yr. old I would get my friends and kick the crap out of that black belt! </p><p>Catch my drift!</p></blockquote>Your "drift" has been brought up many times already. These "10 year olds" in question are still learning to play the game. Its easy for a red or orange con to mow through 20 people who barely have a grasp of the UI much less all the spells/cas that they've only received an hour earlier. Top that off with the fact that they are still learning their way around and I'm sure the group mechanics is still rather alien to them.It only takes about 3 hours to stumble in to level 10. It takes <b>a lot</b> longer to be efficient enough in PvP to take on a skilled veteran geared to the teeth.Still weak. Catch my drift?Come up with some new excuses.. these have already been hashed out many times before and dismissed.</blockquote><p>Not sure how someone can mow through someone else the first person cons red to, without that person attacking first. </p><p>The only thing that has been dismissed is your entire string of arguments against locking. Griefing will still exist after the change, people who don't gear up will get obliterated, and the crying will probably increase as the level lockers level up alongside new players.</p><p>It's been said time and time again, and any new player reading this thread should heed this advice: Start the game on a blue server, or be prepared to die repeatedly until you learn and master the mechanics.</p>

Darman81
12-10-2007, 02:50 PM
<p>Cklab hit the nail on the head!</p>

Echgar
12-10-2007, 03:06 PM
<cite>Darman81 wrote:</cite><blockquote>This entire argument about locking is really strange to me.</blockquote>There is a discussion that is many pages long going on <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=397735" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>.  Please check it out and participate there if you have feedback instead of creating a new thread.<blockquote>Flame on ladies and gentlemen its a free country!</blockquote>Flame off -- <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=176" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Forum Rules of Conduct</a>.