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Godwrath
10-21-2007, 03:36 PM
The best 2box setup, surely tons of threads had been opened with this, but i would like to see info from people who two box, and how works your current setup. Most people say Fury + SK/Zerk, let's see if anyone else differ.discuss

TomRidd
10-21-2007, 04:03 PM
Zerk / Fury or InquisBrawler / Shaman SK / Fury or InquisZerk SK Brawler / WardenYou'd be splitting hairs to decide which is best really. A lot of it will come down to personal preference and style. It also depends on what type of utility you want to have available (eg. ports, SoW, FD, evac.)This list is entirely Tank / Healer based. Lots of people are into caster combos as well. edit: forgot about Swashie and Brigand.....Either of those paired with a druid or shaman is a decent combo as well.

Ardnahoy
10-21-2007, 08:19 PM
<p>The key to 2-boxing is that you have to have one class that doesn't require much attention.</p><p>The most efficient 2-box is a class that can "tank" paired with a class that can "heal". Any number of combinations will work. The key is that you have to keep the second box as simple as possible.</p><p>Your second box will be a toon that is on auto-follow, and will be targetting your main box. Healers are the ideal class for this. Once a healer is done buffing, all it needs to do is spam some heals and nukes. Druids are ideal here due to their relatively fast cast times and low number of spells to worry about. A fury will cast up to 4 heals, and two nukes. You can set up one hotkey on the fury with all the spell it will use, and then cycle through spells as needed. I also box with a templar and mystic, and both of those are very good as a 2nd box, so feel free to experiment.</p><p>My primary main boxed toons are: Illusionist, necro, and shadowknight:</p><ul><li>The illusionist is such a crazy soloer that he doesn't even really need to be 2-boxxed, so any class combo works with him. The illusionist/fury combo is particularly powerful and easy to maintain. Here, the fury usually just casts a group regen, followed by the one big nuke. If necessary, he'll also cast the one big AoE nuke on occasion. Mobs die fast. The fury does more DPS than healing for this combo.</li><li>My necro usually gets paired with my mystic, and that combo is quite nice. Mystic wards allow the necro to focus on DPS without having to worry about healing his pet. The mystic only casts like 5 total spells in combat so it is easy to maintain.</li><li>My SK usually pairs up with my wizzy. This pair is very easy to box. The SK just tries to stay alive long enough for the wizzy to kill the mob. Wizzy casts two nukes and two damage shields, and thats about it. For some of the blue/even ^^^ named, this combo gets a little dicey. Basically, the SK just needs to be able to stay alive for about 30 seconds. Agro is a problem on the harder mobs. This combo would be better if the tank was a paladin.</li></ul>

Godwrath
10-21-2007, 08:31 PM
Which of the tanks seems to be the best dps in autoattack ?

Savanja
10-21-2007, 08:43 PM
I dig just about any class with my monk tanking.  I haven't had a need to play with a healer yet, but have done fabulously with a conj, necro, and swash.

Bombodale
10-21-2007, 10:12 PM
For beating really tough named, nothing really beats a duo that can mez, 1st class roots, provide power for a long time, and a super nuker: Coercer (or Illu) with Wiz. Once you start fighting creatures with 100K+ hit points, the good dps makes it tolerable. The con is the duo is a bit squishy, but wiz evac helps. I play this the most often. I also play SK+Inq and Brigand+Warden (and tried other combos). For overall playability, any Tank + Healer combo is nice. Although they say the Shaman is particularly good becoz of warding (less manual intervention), if you use macros, any healer with reactives (Inq) or heal over time (Warden) is pretty effective. Fury makes up for no HoT by inflicting damage. So there are no bad healers <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" />Useful healer utility: Fury of course has ports. Warden has 45% run speed boost for group with SoW+AA, and ports too. Also a Tank+Healer forms a basis of a larger group if you can multi-task well.

erin
10-21-2007, 10:26 PM
My buddy does really well with a swashy / warden.I usually work with tank/healer, zerker/fury has been my fav.  Paladin was my favorite but its just too slow (regardless of the healer).But with a paladin its easy to go with some non-healer class, necro or wizard or something.

skimpy82
10-21-2007, 11:44 PM
I see a lot of people say you need 1 class that is a 'main' and and another class that you can just do minimal work on.Horse hockey I say.I run a defiler/monk/illusionist trio - each character as active as the other. I'm constantly debuffing and warding with the defiler, thats my left hand, and I interchange windows on the monk and illy and use commands with my right hand. Because I maximize each character, I am able to take down some often considered 'improbable' content.You can get out what you're willing to put in, basically.

TomRidd
10-22-2007, 01:14 AM
<cite>skimpy82 wrote:</cite><blockquote>I see a lot of people say you need 1 class that is a 'main' and and another class that you can just do minimal work on.Horse hockey I say.    </blockquote>I agree with Skimpy. Especially with a two box set up, there is no reason you shouldn't be near maximizing both characters. Even with three it's not that hard to do. Pick any class you want and go in with the attitude that you are going to play both.

NANEEJE
10-22-2007, 01:16 AM
i think he meant that the second character be needing just a hot key press , or two, remember you can fill a macro with like 8-12 continous combat arts and spells, ? so hit auto follow, and lean over and press 1 key, and 12 spells come out, isnt that what you meant by minimal work? Think so.

djinnz
10-22-2007, 03:44 AM
<p>mt wrong post!</p>

Eboj
10-22-2007, 04:04 AM
well, i run monk + fury + defiler + wizzy.... works really well, have to on your toes though due to fury being an aggro [Removed for Content]... i use the fury as a second dps most of the time though and mostly keep the monk alive in trash fights with wards form defiler, the fury only really gets to heal in named fights... the biggest problem is aoe aggro when there are adds.. every other situation is just fine..as for two boxing... sk + fury rocks..

Shahrazad
10-22-2007, 09:55 AM
I 2box a Wizard + Warden and this combo rocks !!wizzi is lvl50 ( 69 AA ) and warden is lvl59 ( 50 AA ) and they beat the game. i've soloed all ( ! ) heritage quests ( no 60+ heritage ) with this duo, the only help i needed was some of the epic-steps ( like saving soles ). i can kill nearly all blue/white/yellow ^^^. for platin-farming trashmobs killspeed is fantastic. mostly i am faster than repop in a certain area.wizzi is geared well - all spells are M1/M2, full mastercrafted/some fabled. warden is App1 and handcrafted <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />i think that if combined with a fury the dps gets really crazy ( especially if fury is mastered, too ), but the survivabilty is best with warden. maybe if i master out the warden they can kick out the hell !!greetz

skimpy82
10-22-2007, 10:45 AM
<cite>Godwrath wrote:</cite><blockquote>The best 2box setup, surely tons of threads had been opened with this, but i would like to see info from people who two box, and how works your current setup. Most people say Fury + SK/Zerk, let's see if anyone else differ.discuss</blockquote><cite>NANEEJE wrote:</cite><blockquote>i think he meant that the second character be needing just a hot key press , or two, remember you can fill a macro with like 8-12 continous combat arts and spells, ? so hit auto follow, and lean over and press 1 key, and 12 spells come out, isnt that what you meant by minimal work? Think so.</blockquote>According to what the OP wrote, he was asking what the best setup was. Not once in his post did he mention minimal. Other people may have started discussing that, but the OP is looking for the best setup, which many of us could give several setups on. I gave my current flavor.

Eboj
10-22-2007, 11:05 AM
<cite>NANEEJE wrote:</cite><blockquote>i think he meant that the second character be needing just a hot key press , or two, remember you can fill a macro with like 8-12 continous combat arts and spells, ? so hit auto follow, and lean over and press 1 key, and 12 spells come out, isnt that what you meant by minimal work? Think so.</blockquote>you can put a max of two spells /ca's in a macro. there is no delay function, so it triggers all actions in the macro at once, you can have one spell only on queued... the others will never trigger, so you only get 2 spells off with a macro.

Gabbett
10-23-2007, 12:46 PM
I am a complete rookie to 2-boxing, I just tried it last week for the first time and am now hooked. I currently box my 42 SK that I started a while ago, mentored down with my 23 Fury that I created last week. Saturday I rolled through the wailing caves like it was butter just the 2 of us. The thing that I noticed is that every once in a while you will need to take the second toon out by himself and level his skills, I tried heading to the Fallen Gate thinking it would be like the Wailing Caves but I left with my hat in my hand. I think my Fury was level 19 or 20 when we tried it and just about every single spell he fired off got resisted, no roots or snares held and I promptly had my [Removed for Content] handed to me by yellow and whites ^^^.  It was a good time and a fun learning experience and afterwards I took my Fury to Nek Forest and soloed for a couple of hours just to skill up his skills. I am looking forward to the rematch with those Thexians.

Shahrazad
10-24-2007, 04:28 PM
<p>@Gabbett:I created a fury last night too - and in about 9hrs playtime she is lvl28. the game is sooo easy with a leather-healer. you're a SK - go to an open area like butcherblock and run trough a few solo mobs, then ae them down. fury can heal + damage ! they fall like nothing !</p><p>if you want fun at soloing down heroic's, doing ( heroic ) quests and/or killing nameds then you have to do it a little other way <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> don't try yellow or even con ^^^ until your SK is really, really tough, look for green or blue mobs. take it slow ! the power in my 2box-combo is the wizard root, if i have to 'tank' yellow nameds they would kill me in a few seconds. and: have an eye for adds !</p><p>skills: don't care about them atm. but if you really want to raise them, just put one spell with the skill you want to raise on first hotbar at button 1 and spam it ^^. i did it so with my warden and raised her skills from ~50 to ~270/280 in a few hrs of grinding.</p><p>@topic:i saw a nice 2box-combo today: it was an conjurer and a templar. conji was lvl55, templar 70 mentored down. we did the epic x2 in lava ( on the fields with the goblins ) with 4 chars in group. conji55, templar55, illu52 and wiz50 ( me ). it was very close but we killed the mob. conji pet was tanking. was a great fight ! the guy who played conji and templar did it perfect. he was knowing his power of controlling 2 toons.</p><p>some people say controlling two toons is hard and you can't play them right and be effective. thats wrong ! if you know your role(s) then you will be better than any other 'normal' group. you know exactly the time you need a heal, you need a mezz, stop autoattack, control pets, root, debuff. you can save mana, you can reduce downtimes, you know whats doable and whats impossible, you get all the loot, and on and on and on. the only exception is the fun-factor. nothing beats the fun-factor in a really nice group <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>have a nice day</p>

dhvyse000
10-25-2007, 11:52 AM
I 3box on 2 computers.  Run 2 clients on my 2nd rig.I play a Monk, Fury and Coercer.Alts are Shadowknight, Troubador and Defiler.

Venger33
10-25-2007, 05:52 PM
<p>LOL..So whats does that say about the game? I would never be so serious that I had to have 2 games running to play.</p><p>Venger</p>

Gutwren
10-25-2007, 06:23 PM
SK as main... Fury as box.Have 5 macros on the Fury which handle healing and dps.Can solo heal myself through OoB and CoV (SK's are a great 2 Box tank since they require less healing than most duo to reaver and various taps)... SK in no raid gear and some master crafted...

Virulence
10-25-2007, 07:35 PM
<p>would be interesting if SoE started creating more 2-box content at level cap, would be a big hit and each person would be min. 2xsubscribers.</p><p>If had a hand in running SoE's EQ2 I would release a ton add-on software packages to encourage 2-boxing, content and even a little pricing discount. Very untapped atm.</p>

Jesus1stKing
10-26-2007, 02:26 AM
As unusual as this may sound I duo / 2-box, a Wizzy & Warden with great success.

Eboj
10-26-2007, 04:57 AM
wizzy and druid? unusual? nah... it just is what takes root nuke root nuke to the next lvl... the warden adds in some dps, cures (trust me you want those when root nuke killing) and heals so root breaking doesnt necesseraly mena death anymore...as for rebates for people with several accounts? why not... i'm all for it,, after all, i got 4, soon to be 5 lolbut more content for two boxers, nah, no need to, i'd say being able to do the heroic content is enough.

dhvyse000
10-26-2007, 10:21 AM
<cite>Venger33 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>LOL..So whats does that say about the game? I would never be so serious that I had to have 2 games running to play.</p><p>Venger</p></blockquote>Why not?  Usualy the case is people are just jealous they can't 2box...

Brilig
10-26-2007, 10:38 AM
I currently 3 box, can 4 box for some things (conj to CoH someone I am leveling to a difficult place) but I played 2 years 2 boxing.  For exploring, named farming, questing, I find a monk/warden is best combo.  My healer account has mystic, inquisitor, warden, all 70, tank account has monk and zerker, utility account has illusionist troub.  All geared ok, not fantastic.  Masters on all class defining spells, ad3 on rest, fabled or legendary.  I can 2 box nest, but goes a lot faster with illi along.  And can 3 box Den and most of the lower eof instances like Acad. With all that, any 2 classes you enjoy playing can 2 box.  There are a couple of things to make it enjoyable and efficent tho.  First, one computer per char.  Don't even think about running 2 on one box and tabbing.  Second, G15/11 keyboards on all accounts.  The programmable hot key layout on those set up right is so good, you cant imagine how you ever did without them.  Third is a good monitor/keyboard layout.  I use wide screen LCD's with main in middle, and secondaries on either side.  With the Logitech keyboards, I hardly ever have to look at the other screens, much less the keyboards.    I 2/3 box when doing HQ's and other quests, preferring to just normaly group.  But when your group can't find a healer or tank, it is quite handy when you say you will box the needed one, and when group is done, you are told "ARe you SURE you were  boxing"Oh, and you will learn to HATE /fol in dungeons...To do most of the stuff in eq2, you dont need to box at all.   Multi boxing just makes things a bit different and less dependent on always trying to find groups.I 5 boxed eq1 for 5 years, but there you needed to.

ScottAdams
10-26-2007, 10:53 AM
<p>My setup is 4 computers. I use 4 screens but only one mouse/keyboard (G15). Instead of a KVM I use multiplicity to swithc to different machines as the mouse scrolls off the edges of the screen to the next screen. Really a great utility!</p><p>I used to have a Swashbuckler, Templar, Gaurdian, Conjuruer. </p><p>When EoF came out I decided I really wanted a Druid for ports. Also I decided my swashie was too much work for too little dps so I figured a troubadour would be better for his group buffs and opower regen.  That meant I would loose group invis. So for my druid I picked the fury which gets group invis. His DPS is not too bad either!</p><p>Now my hydra is </p><p> Troubadour, Guardian, Fury, Conjurer.</p><p> I have almost all the great utility spells at my beck and call:</p><p> teleports, group invis, call of the hero, evac, power regen, root,  group buffs, bard run buff ( I am at 52% currently on foot for the group), rez, and auto rez via AAs for the complete wipeouts.</p>