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Rochir
10-12-2007, 09:52 AM
<p>I currently lead a large Burning Crusade raid guild in WoW.  I formerly led a guild in EQ2.  I have played Paladins to 60 in EQ2 and have 2 level 70 Paladins in WoW.  I may be the only person (crazy enough) who has done this.  Here is a quick synopsis.</p><p>1.  Soloing - it is much easier to solo quest in WoW.  In EQ2, a small gropu normal mobs who hare 5 levels lower than a character can kill that character.   This would never happend in WoW.  This should be fixed in EQ2, it is too hard to solo quest normal mobs in EQ2.  Soloing is much better in WoW.</p><p>2.  Questing - much harder, more interesting and challenging in EQ2 than in WoW.  WoW has some great quests but nothing like the Claymore and certainly not any quest that is that rewarding.  EQ2 quest content gets the edge.</p><p> 3.  Raiding - EQ2 raiding is much, much easier than BC raiding in WoW.  In fact, compared to even the starter instance in BC, Karazhan, EQ2 raid content is a joke compared to WoW.   EQ2 raiders, Moroes, the second boss in Kara would make you cry.  The gear selection and drop rates of Epics are better in WoW than EQ2.   Raiding in the WoW xpac, Burning Crusade is much more challenging and rewarding than in the EQ2 xpacs.   When it comes to end-game, WoW gets the edge.</p><p>4.  Crafting/Economy - EQ2s crafting system has always been better than WoWs.   Crafting in WoW is hardly worth doing.   Blizzards efforts to stop gold farmingin WoW have very nearly completely stifled crafting and selling in WoW.  The broker is a much better place to shop and sell than the auction house.</p><p>5. PvP - I have not played on a PvP server in EQ2.  PvP and the arena in WoW is a blast.</p><p>6. Classes/Combat System - both games have good classes and a good combat system.  If anything, EQ2 has too many classes, so many of each type that it makes it hard to fit them all into 24-man raid content.   Many classes are being excluded from EQ2 raid content.  In WoW, all classes are needed in end-game.</p><p>If you only have a few hours a day, a few days a week to play WoW is your game.  If you want to put more time into the game and enjoy the richer, deeper content, EQ2 is your game.</p><p>One more thing, I have an epic flying mount in WoW.   The freedom of a 280% speed increase is amazing.  Please bring flying mounts to EQ2 SOE. </p>

Invert
10-12-2007, 09:55 AM
I'm still trying to figure out what the point of this thread is. So in the mean time I will post this.

Rochir
10-12-2007, 09:59 AM
<cite>Inverted wrote:</cite><blockquote>I'm still trying to figure out what the point of this thread is. So in the mean time I will post this.</blockquote><p>Read it again, maybe you will figure out.  I think it is pretty clear.  Please dont be like posters in the WoW forums.  There are some really messed up people who post in the WoW forums. </p><p>I would like to add that I have always liked the EQ2 community better than the WoW community.   There really is no community to speak of in WoW.  Its a great game but it can be hard to find great people who play it.</p>

Siclone
10-12-2007, 10:08 AM
<cite>Rochir wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I currently lead a large Burning Crusade raid guild in WoW.  I formerly led a guild in EQ2.  I have played Paladins to 60 in EQ2 and have 2 level 70 Paladins in WoW.  I may be the only person (crazy enough) who has done this.  Here is a quick synopsis.</p><p>1.  Soloing - it is much easier to solo quest in WoW.  In EQ2, a small gropu normal mobs who hare 5 levels lower than a character can kill that character.   This would never happend in WoW.  This should be fixed in EQ2, it is too hard to solo quest normal mobs in EQ2.  Soloing is much better in WoW.</p><p>2.  Questing - much harder, more interesting and challenging in EQ2 than in WoW.  WoW has some great quests but nothing like the Claymore and certainly not any quest that is that rewarding.  EQ2 quest content gets the edge.</p><p> 3.  Raiding - EQ2 raiding is much, much easier than BC raiding in WoW.  In fact, compared to even the starter instance in BC, Karazhan, EQ2 raid content is a joke compared to WoW.   EQ2 raiders, Moroes, the second boss in Kara would make you cry.  The gear selection and drop rates of Epics are better in WoW than EQ2.   Raiding in the WoW xpac, Burning Crusade is much more challenging and rewarding than in the EQ2 xpacs.   When it comes to end-game, WoW gets the edge.</p><p>4.  Crafting/Economy - EQ2s crafting system has always been better than WoWs.   Crafting in WoW is hardly worth doing.   Blizzards efforts to stop gold farmingin WoW have very nearly completely stifled crafting and selling in WoW.  The broker is a much better place to shop and sell than the auction house.</p><p>5. PvP - I have not played on a PvP server in EQ2.  PvP and the arena in WoW is a blast.</p><p>6. Classes/Combat System - both games have good classes and a good combat system.  If anything, EQ2 has too many classes, so many of each type that it makes it hard to fit them all into 24-man raid content.   Many classes are being excluded from EQ2 raid content.  In WoW, all classes are needed in end-game.</p><p>If you only have a few hours a day, a few days a week to play WoW is your game.  If you want to put more time into the game and enjoy the richer, deeper content, EQ2 is your game.</p><p>One more thing, I have an epic flying mount in WoW.   The freedom of a 280% speed increase is amazing.  Please bring flying mounts to EQ2 SOE. </p></blockquote>oh please man, WoW is a game for kids.1) soloing quests is way easy in EQ2.....people dont play WoW cause its way easy no challenge2) of course it is,,,WoW is for kids3) your kidding right?.....tell me your guild has killed Woushi and cleared all the end game zones? ...No i did not think so...you dont even have a clue what your talking about on this one4) and 5)---no comment6) of course there are more classes its a much more involved complex game,let me help you out, people that play eq2 don't want flying mounts with a speed of 280.  We don't want to play a cartoon game,,,,people that prefer eq,,,want a harder more complex more realistic type of atmosphere. 

Windowlicker
10-12-2007, 10:12 AM
<cite>Rochir wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I currently lead a large Burning Crusade raid guild in WoW.  I formerly led a guild in EQ2.  I have played Paladins to 60 in EQ2 and have 2 level 70 Paladins in WoW. </p></blockquote><p>So what your saying then, is your impression of EQ2 cant' be measured against your impression of WoW because you haven't seen about 1/4 of the game.  </p><p>On that note, you've never attended a real raid if your level 60 either.  So really, you've never *seen* an EQ2 raid.</p>

netglen
10-12-2007, 10:18 AM
<cite>Rochir wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>1.  Soloing - it is much easier to solo quest in WoW.  In EQ2, a small gropu normal mobs who hare 5 levels lower than a character can kill that character.   This would never happend in WoW.  This should be fixed in EQ2, it is too hard to solo quest normal mobs in EQ2.  Soloing is much better in WoW.</p></blockquote>I find it amazing that you can even begin to put forth a comparison of games when you've only experienced the game with a EQ2 Paladin and a pair of WoW Paladins. There are plenty of EQ2 classes that can easily tear apart single and groups of mobs without stopping to take a break between encounters. <blockquote><p><span class="postbody"> EQ2 raiding is much, much easier than BC raiding in WoW. </span><span class="postbody">Raiding in the WoW xpac, Burning Crusade is much more challenging and rewarding than in the EQ2 xpacs.</span><span class="postbody">If you only have a few hours a day, a few days a week to play WoW is your game. </span></p></blockquote>So which is it? First you're bashing on EQ2's raid zones as inferior and easy while praising how difficult WoW is. But then you're trying to spin WoW as an easier game. How in the world can a serious hardcore WoW raider get away with only playing a few hours per week? <blockquote><p><span class="postbody">If anything, EQ2 has too many classes, so many of each type that it makes it hard to fit them all into 24-man raid content.   Many classes are being excluded from EQ2 raid content.  In WoW, all classes are needed in end-game.</span></p></blockquote>Usually in the WoW world, the serious raiding guilds have already limited the number of each class into the guild's ranks. So in a sense yes they do need every but good luck getting into a raiding guild if they're already filled up all their slots for a particular class. At least with EQ2 a raid leader can pick and choose different classes to fit an encounter.

Killerbee3000
10-12-2007, 10:23 AM
<cite>Rochir wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I currently lead a large Burning Crusade raid guild in WoW.  I formerly led a guild in EQ2.  I have played Paladins to 60 in EQ2 and have 2 level 70 Paladins in WoW.  I may be the only person (crazy enough) who has done this.  Here is a quick synopsis.</p><p>1.  Soloing - it is much easier to solo quest in WoW.  In EQ2, a small gropu normal mobs who hare 5 levels lower than a character can kill that character.   This would never happend in WoW.  This should be fixed in EQ2, it is too hard to solo quest normal mobs in EQ2.  Soloing is much better in WoW.</p><p><span style="color: #cc3333;">Soloing is trivial in EQ2... </span></p><p>2.  Questing - much harder, more interesting and challenging in EQ2 than in WoW.  WoW has some great quests but nothing like the Claymore and certainly not any quest that is that rewarding.  EQ2 quest content gets the edge.</p><p><span style="color: #cc3333;">harder? yes, but not because of mobs, more because of terrible what to do description in Quest Jorunal...</span> </p><p> 3.  Raiding - EQ2 raiding is much, much easier than BC raiding in WoW.  In fact, compared to even the starter instance in BC, Karazhan, EQ2 raid content is a joke compared to WoW.   EQ2 raiders, Moroes, the second boss in Kara would make you cry.  The gear selection and drop rates of Epics are better in WoW than EQ2.   Raiding in the WoW xpac, Burning Crusade is much more challenging and rewarding than in the EQ2 xpacs.   When it comes to end-game, WoW gets the edge.</p><span style="color: #cc3333;">spamming the same 3 -4 spells in wow makes raids soooooo hard... NOT. they have scirpts to figure out (which is a one time thing), in eq2 you have to figure out how to improve yourself... </span><p>4.  Crafting/Economy - EQ2s crafting system has always been better than WoWs.   Crafting in WoW is hardly worth doing.   Blizzards efforts to stop gold farmingin WoW have very nearly completely stifled crafting and selling in WoW.  The broker is a much better place to shop and sell than the auction house.</p><p><span style="color: #cc3366;">crafting in eq2 is very well done... yep.. but they are maing it worse... was better like it once was...</span></p><p>5. PvP - I have not played on a PvP server in EQ2.  PvP and the arena in WoW is a blast.</p><span style="color: #cc3366;">pvp in wow is better... so is the pvp in any game... lol.. honestly, uo, eq1, daoc, wow, guild wars all got better pvp than eq2. </span><p>6. Classes/Combat System - both games have good classes and a good combat system.  If anything, EQ2 has too many classes, so many of each type that it makes it hard to fit them all into 24-man raid content.   Many classes are being excluded from EQ2 raid content.  In WoW, all classes are needed in end-game.</p><p>If you only have a few hours a day, a few days a week to play WoW is your game.  If you want to put more time into the game and enjoy the richer, deeper content, EQ2 is your game.</p><span style="color: #cc3366;">wow = noob and casual friendly... honestly, insane low system requirements, the guiding of noobs through the content, the overrewearding, the little amount of grinding it takes to achieve something... yeah.. its coffeebreak compatible... a bad thing? no, but different, and something that kills the feeling of achievment.</span><p>One more thing, I have an epic flying mount in WoW.   The freedom of a 280% speed increase is amazing.  Please bring flying mounts to EQ2 SOE. </p><p><span style="color: #cc3366;">the zones in wow are bigger... i guess that makes it rather obvious why they get faster mounts.</span></p></blockquote>on top of that, eq2 looks better, the avg player is an adult and not a 10 yr old...

firza
10-12-2007, 10:25 AM
<cite>Rochir wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Inverted wrote:</cite><blockquote>I'm still trying to figure out what the point of this thread is. So in the mean time I will post this.</blockquote><p>Read it again, maybe you will figure out.  I think it is pretty clear.  Please dont be like posters in the WoW forums.  There are some really messed up people who post in the WoW forums. </p></blockquote><p>I did Inverteds job and read it again. Whats your point?</p><p>Ýou like soloing but do not like a challange.</p><p>You like raiding, but like it hard. ps; by far not all of raiding guilds have actually finished EH boss.</p><p>but what are you actually asking  for? Or are you making a statement which you would prefer to have no answers to?</p>

Tel
10-12-2007, 10:37 AM
I just migrated from WoW to EQ2, and man, this game destroys WoW on all levels (that I have seen to date).Just a question for an above poster, but, how are system requirements even a category for comparison in the quality of a game? <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

liveja
10-12-2007, 10:39 AM
<cite>Rochir wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>In EQ2, a small gropu normal mobs who hare 5 levels lower than a character can kill that character. </p><p><span style="color: #00cc00;"><b>If it's a "small group" mob, it's not "normal", it's Heroic. Heroic mobs are the equivalent of Elites in WoW.</b></span></p><p><b><span style="color: #00cc00;">If it's a "normal" mob, & 5 levels below the character, then NO EQ2 player of ANY class has ANY excuse for dying to it.</span></b></p><p>This would never happend in WoW.</p><p><span style="color: #00cc00;"><b>Nonsense: WoW elites are not meant to be "solo'd" any more than are EQ2 Heroics, & if you ever spend any time on the WoW forums, you'll see people there complaining about their inability to solo Elite quests, just as you see people complaining about it in EQ2.</b></span></p></blockquote><p>I played WoW extensively, too, & IMHO, the *only* good thing about it is the PvP. The crafting system is among the most useless EVER, there's no player housing, there aren't any Shinies to collect, & the player "community" is even worse than the crafting system.</p><p>Combine all that with graphics that border on childish, & IMO WoW is decidedly inferior to EQ2.</p>

Killerbee3000
10-12-2007, 10:41 AM
<cite>Telal wrote:</cite><blockquote>Just a question for an above poster, but, how are system requirements even a category for comparison in the quality of a game? <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" /></blockquote>not for the quality of the game, but for how readily accessible it is and what target audience it has... honestly, eq2 does lock out all the 10 yr olds and the ones that arent willing to invest enough into gaming simply with its hw requirements. it does make for a different community through that.

Mighty Melvor
10-12-2007, 10:42 AM
<p>Hmmm, he only has a lvl 60 on EQ2.  I assume at some point prior to KoS he left for WoW.</p><p>This is how I interpret this post...</p><p>1.  I'm bored with WoW2.  I tried to come back to EQ2, but the guild I lead fell apart.3.  I tried to solo but couldn't accomplish anything, because the game actually requires an IQ above 40 and more than one hotbar.4.  I expect to be rewarded now with adornements, AA, and uberl33tness.  I'm [Removed for Content]!5.  I want relic gear NOW6.  I want a 280% mount NOW</p><p>WAAAAHHHHHHHH</p><p>The fact that you stated that you couldn't solo yet the raid runs were a joke was more than sufficent to see right through this silly post.</p>

Zorastiz
10-12-2007, 11:18 AM
<p>And we should care about this why??</p>

interstellarmatter
10-12-2007, 11:19 AM
<cite>Rochir wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Inverted wrote:</cite><blockquote>I'm still trying to figure out what the point of this thread is. So in the mean time I will post this.</blockquote><p>Read it again, maybe you will figure out.  I think it is pretty clear.  Please dont be like posters in the WoW forums.  There are some really messed up people who post in the WoW forums. </p></blockquote>I think that his point was this thread has been posted 1000x here with same information.  Try searching the subject.

UlteriorModem
10-12-2007, 11:25 AM
<p>What a refreshing breath of fresh air...</p><p> (Cough Cough)</p>

lazlo1
10-12-2007, 11:48 AM
First i want to say that all games have board trolls even EQ2. This thread is a good example of that. But by enlarge the community of EQ2 is far better than Wow. I recently switch from Wow back to EQ2 myself. I have max level raiding chars in both.I agree with most the OPs points except soloing. I think that both games have good solo content. What makes EQ2 better in this area is that there is much more small group / duo stuff to do at max level. IF you didn't have a full group in WOW, there wasn't much you could do other than solo outside.I also like the AA system in EQ2 better then the system in WOW.Options on Raiding. To me options are like butts everyone has one and most are smelly.Wow raiding seems more complex than EQ2. Given the $$$ Wow has to work with I doubt this is gonna change. Wow has a lot of long scripted events, I haven't seen anything close to that in EQ2. C'Thun in Wow was pretty cool.  EQ2 raiding itself is fun enough to not make this a big deal to me. I do agree than raiding loot drops in EQ2 could be better. But raiding is one reason I LEFT Wow. Raiding in Wow was a big time sink outside of the raid to earn money for potions and repair bills. This got old quick.  So giving the amount of grinding high end raiding in Wow required I ENJOY raiding in EQ2 alot more. Plus guild politics seemed much worse in Wow. That may just be the guilds I was in, but i think it had more to do with the players.

SJYokel98
10-12-2007, 12:09 PM
<cite>lazlo1 wrote:</cite><blockquote><b>First i want to say that all games have board trolls even EQ2. This thread is a good example of that. </b></blockquote>QFT

Terron
10-12-2007, 12:12 PM
<cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Rochir wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>In EQ2, a small gropu normal mobs who hare 5 levels lower than a character can kill that character. </p><p><b><span style="color: #00cc00;">If it's a "normal" mob, & 5 levels below the character, then NO EQ2 player of ANY class has ANY excuse for dying to it.</span></b></p></blockquote> </blockquote>I think the OP meant several "normal" mobs 5 levels below the character. I started playing just after LU13. My first character - a guard - could not solo blue mobs (without down arrows). His only option against a group of mobs only 5 levels lower than him would have been to run. Things have changed though. Now the only way they could win would be if I was AFK. Though my guard is still the weakest soloer of all my toons relative to their levels.

interstellarmatter
10-12-2007, 12:20 PM
<cite>lazlo1 wrote:</cite><blockquote>First i want to say that all games have board trolls even EQ2. This thread is a good example of that. </blockquote>I have to ask..what's your definition of a troll?

Spyderbite
10-12-2007, 12:29 PM
<img src="http://www.clarionledger.com/misc/blogs/community/citizens/uploaded_images/bunny-pancake-774244.jpg" alt="" border="0" />Seriously.. you can't compare the two games. So why are you doing so? Nobody who plays WoW wants the challenge involved in EQ2 and nobody in EQ2 wants the Easy Mode involved in WoW.What's the point of this post?

Magnis
10-12-2007, 12:38 PM
<p>Your all wrong, WoW blow EQ2 out of the water in every aspect.  Its beyond me why you all are still in this game.  Its all pointless... whos with me????</p><p>kiding, my bro and I tried the WoW trail, finish downloading, made chars, 2 minutes into the game could find any quest starters, or first NPS I talked to didnt give me anything. So we logged and finished a HQ that we were working on.   </p><p>We are soo lazy, so I have no opinion. Fun thread thou</p>

Sapphirius
10-12-2007, 12:39 PM
<p>I don't see the point in the comparison here, but coming from someone who has also played <i>and raided</i> in both games. </p><p><cite>Rochir wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I currently lead a large Burning Crusade raid guild in WoW.  I formerly led a guild in EQ2.  I have played Paladins to 60 in EQ2 and have 2 level 70 Paladins in WoW.  I may be the only person (crazy enough) who has done this.  Here is a quick synopsis.</p><p><span style="color: #ffff00;">I'm sorry, but WoW and EQ2 gaming perspectives from a 60 EQ2/70 WoW paladin just isn't a very good view point for raiding analysis.</span></p><p>1.  Soloing - it is much easier to solo quest in WoW.  In EQ2, a small gropu normal mobs who hare 5 levels lower than a character can kill that character.   This would never happend in WoW.  This should be fixed in EQ2, it is too hard to solo quest normal mobs in EQ2.  Soloing is much better in WoW.</p><p><span style="color: #ffff00;">It's also dreadfully boring in WoW because there is little risk. However, a green mob can kill a person in WoW as well. Also, if a person is getting killed by a mob 5 levels lower than them in EQ2, then they're doing something horribly wrong. Furthermore, grey mobs in WoW that are aggro will still aggro even if they're grey, something EQ2 doesn't do. Aggro radius in WoW gets smaller as your level gets higher and bigger as you level is lower. I do actually kind of like that about WoW.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ffff00;">And if by "small group" you mean heroic mobs, then shame on you! Of course people have trouble soloing them, same as they do elite mobs on WoW.</span></p><p>2.  Questing - much harder, more interesting and challenging in EQ2 than in WoW.  WoW has some great quests but nothing like the Claymore and certainly not any quest that is that rewarding.  EQ2 quest content gets the edge.</p><p><span style="color: #ffff00;">WoW does have lengthy lines of quests that will reward purples at the end, such as the quests in Karazhan that awards a very nice epic ring to get you started in raiding. In fact, It is also possible to craft epic gear in WoW. You can't really craft fabled in EQ2 anymore. There was once a point where you could. In WoW, you could also get purples from PvP by earning battlefied tokens and earning arena points.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ffff00;">That being said, I find EQ2 questing to be of a greater variety. Plus, I have never run out of quests to do in EQ2. Every time I finish one, I find three more. I ran out of stuff to do in WoW very quickly.</span></p><p> 3.  Raiding - EQ2 raiding is much, much easier than BC raiding in WoW.  In fact, compared to even the starter instance in BC, Karazhan, EQ2 raid content is a joke compared to WoW.   EQ2 raiders, Moroes, the second boss in Kara would make you cry.  The gear selection and drop rates of Epics are better in WoW than EQ2.   Raiding in the WoW xpac, Burning Crusade is much more challenging and rewarding than in the EQ2 xpacs.   When it comes to end-game, WoW gets the edge.</p><p><span style="color: #ffff00;">I cry foul on this statement. Once you figured out the encounters, Karazhan was a cake walk. Moroes is nothing compared to our vampire chick friend in Freethinker's Hideout. Ugh! <shudders> I hate her. Get to raiding The Eye where Kael'thas is the final boss and compare it to the second floor of Emerald Halls. If you can still say that WoW raiding is harder, then I'll still cry foul on you. EQ2 raiding is by far much more challenging.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ffff00;">Also, you haven't mentioned the other WoW raid bosses at all. What? Did you stop raiding in Karazhan and never get any further? There's other BC raid zones ya know.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ffff00;">EDIT: Someone else mentioned scripted events in WoW, and that part of raiding I will agree with, but there are going to be more things like this in ROK raiding according to the devs at Fan Faire. Currently, EQ2 raiding is a pull it and kill it kind of deal.</span></p><p>4.  Crafting/Economy - EQ2s crafting system has always been better than WoWs.   Crafting in WoW is hardly worth doing.   Blizzards efforts to stop gold farmingin WoW have very nearly completely stifled crafting and selling in WoW.  The broker is a much better place to shop and sell than the auction house.</p><p><span style="color: #ffff00;">Agreed. WoW crafting: click a button and go afk. EQ2 crafting is by far superior.</span></p><p>5. PvP - I have not played on a PvP server in EQ2.  PvP and the arena in WoW is a blast.</p><p><span style="color: #ffff00;">Agreed. WoW PvP is quite fun and has a point. EQ2 PvP lacks focus. I can say that because I played on Venekor for quite some time.</span></p><p>6. Classes/Combat System - both games have good classes and a good combat system.  If anything, EQ2 has too many classes, so many of each type that it makes it hard to fit them all into 24-man raid content.   Many classes are being excluded from EQ2 raid content.  In WoW, all classes are needed in end-game.</p><p><span style="color: #ffff00;">No, I like my choices and the ability to specialize in one direction or the other. Also, in WoW, too many tanks was redundant on a raid just like it is here in EQ2. In fact, we took no more than two tanks on raids with us in WoW. In EQ2, there's usually 3 or 4 tanks, occasionally more but not often. Also, in WoW, we needed fewer priests to heal the raid. In EQ2, I usually see between 6 to 8 healers on a raid.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ffff00;">This next statement is just to correct some misconceptions... What's more is the assumption that WoW needed only one hotbar is wrong. My mage and shaman had 4 to 5 hotbars up loaded with spells/totems, just like my warlock, warden, monk, inquis, etc. do here on EQ2. She also had an additional 5 hotbars loaded with various miscellaneous things, such as portals, her crafting buttons (she was a gnomish engineer and spellfire tailor), mounts, food/water, mana & health stones, macros, etc. Sadly, she was used more as a water dispenser than anything else because food and water meant so much more in WoW than it does in EQ2.</span></p><p>If you only have <b>a <u>few hours</u> a day</b>, a few days a week to play WoW is your game.  If you want to put more time into the game and enjoy the richer, deeper content, EQ2 is your game.</p><p><span style="color: #ffff00;">Disagree. EQ2 is playable on a few hours a day, a few days a week. What? You think that I spend 24/7 on my puter in order to raid? No, I spend about 3 hours a day tops on average 4 days a week on one character. Sometimes I might play another character. Sometimes, I don't even spend that much time with a character. I switch around to alts a lot. I also have a life and children outside of EQ2, so there are some days when I don't even log on at all. I'm not a hardcore raider in a hardcore guild, but at least I can say that I've helped take down Mayong in MMIS and seen the second floor of EH.</span></p><p>One more thing, I have an epic flying mount in WoW.   The freedom of a 280% speed increase is amazing.  Please bring flying mounts to EQ2 SOE. </p><p><span style="color: #ffff00;">An epic flying mount in EQ2 would be cool, but it's most likely not going to happen. Also, that speed is way too fast for EQ2.</span></p></blockquote>

Generic123
10-12-2007, 12:42 PM
<p>No need to flame the OP, other then the soloing thing he is basically correct. </p><p>EQ2 is every bit as soloable as WoW.  In fact if you play the right class much of the heroic content is soloable when it's still current enough to drop useful gear and give xp/AA.  This isn't the case in WoW.  </p><p>EQ2 raiding is somewhat lacking because every fight is basically tank and spank, tactics seldom go beyond pull the mob to this spot, joust the AE and tank the adds.  WoW is the hardcore raiders game of choice at the moment and this isn't an accident.  A previous poster pointed out that making yourself better is a key to EQ2 raiding and in this they are correct.  EQ2 raiding requires you to understand what it takes to get the most out of your character and it isn't always obvious what that is.</p><p>PvP is somewhat lacking in both games IMO.  WoW PvP is basically a mini-game, it's no more MMO player vs player then LoN.  EQ2 PvP is a gankfest because there are no goals or objectives other then killing as many players as possible.  </p><p>EQ2 creafting is much better then WoW's primarily because WoW's is so bad.  EQ2 crafting tends to be a grind once you figure out how to make pristine.  Every crafted product ends up the same and every crafter can make every product , there is simply to little variety.  </p>

Siclone
10-12-2007, 12:56 PM
<cite>Generic123 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>No need to flame the OP, other then the soloing thing he is basically correct. </p><p>EQ2 is every bit as soloable as WoW.  In fact if you play the right class much of the heroic content is soloable when it's still current enough to drop useful gear and give xp/AA.  This isn't the case in WoW.  </p><p><u><b>EQ2 raiding is somewhat lacking because every fight is basically tank and spank, tactics seldom go beyond pull the mob to this spot, joust the AE and tank the adds.  WoW is the hardcore raiders game of choice at the moment and this isn't an accident.  A previous poster pointed out that making yourself better is a key to EQ2 raiding and in this they are correct.  EQ2 raiding requires you to understand what it takes to get the most out of your character and it isn't always obvious what that is.</b></u></p><p>PvP is somewhat lacking in both games IMO.  WoW PvP is basically a mini-game, it's no more MMO player vs player then LoN.  EQ2 PvP is a gankfest because there are no goals or objectives other then killing as many players as possible.  </p><p>EQ2 creafting is much better then WoW's primarily because WoW's is so bad.  EQ2 crafting tends to be a grind once you figure out how to make pristine.  Every crafted product ends up the same and every crafter can make every product , there is simply to little variety.  </p></blockquote>EQ2 raiding is more complex simply because EQ2 combat is more complex...the game mechanics are more involved, you have many more factors coming into play, many more spells many more classes and many more things happening at once.  WoW I understand can give the perception of complex,,,but its just a script that runs every single time the same way.   <u><b>on a much simpler platform</b></u> .....once the script is figured out,,,,well there you go.

Zorastiz
10-12-2007, 12:57 PM
<cite>lazlo1 wrote:</cite><blockquote>First i want to say that all games have board trolls even EQ2. This thread is a good example of that. But by enlarge the community of EQ2 is far better than Wow. I recently switch from Wow back to EQ2 myself. I have max level raiding chars in both.</blockquote><p>You have a 130 somthing posts, I have 55, some have THOUSANDS, are you a troll?</p>

J7critter
10-12-2007, 12:58 PM
<cite>Generic123 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>EQ2 creafting is much better then WoW's primarily because WoW's is so bad.  EQ2 crafting tends to be a grind once you figure out how to make pristine.  Every crafted product ends up the same and every crafter can make every product , there is simply to little variety.  </p></blockquote><p>So... EQ2's crafting is better then WoW's crafting because WoW's crafting is so bad. LOL guess I can't argue with that logic. Thanks for not confusing the situation with details. <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p>

Echgar
10-12-2007, 01:03 PM
As is often the case with threads such as this, it either begins or quickly devolves into a comparison between EverQuest II (what this forum is for) and another game (something usually better discussed elsewhere).While I do not get the impression the original poster was intending this to be a WoW bashing session, there are posts here delving into that behavior and I need to close this thread.If you wish to discuss EverQuest II, please do.  It is usually best, however, to avoid discussion of other games on the EverQuest II official forums. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />