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Bionickai001
05-14-2007, 08:32 PM
<p>With the addition of three more gods in the next expansion pack, I was thinking about the alignment of the remaining gods.  </p><p>Erollisi Marr- Good</p><p>Rodcet Nife- Good</p><p>Bristlebane- Neutral</p><p>Prexus- Neutral</p><p>Veeshan- Neutral</p><p> Now, as you can see, there are no more evil gods left.  Could they leave gods out for worship?  Could they change Veeshan to evil?  Could they have imbalance?  What is your guys' opinions?</p>

Xyran
05-14-2007, 08:52 PM
They can bring in Saryn (sp) and Terris Thule and/or possibly the Zek twins to balance it out for evil.

Mirander_1
05-14-2007, 08:53 PM
Two words, or one hyphenated word, not sure how that works... Demi-Gods. There's a metric ton of demi-gods for the neutral and evil alignments that can be drawn from.  For evil, there's: The Zeks: Vallon Zek Tallon Zek Rolfron Zek The Thules: Terris Thule Saryn Luclin(?) Lanys T'Vyl And some others I can't recall (I know there's at least one more Zek...).

Xyran
05-14-2007, 08:58 PM
<p>Sullon Zek is the one your missing.</p><p>Rolfron ive never heard of, who is that the Zek's pet dog?</p><p>Lanys T'vyl I wouldn't count as a demi-god..... more of a divine mistake.</p>

Cusashorn
05-14-2007, 09:18 PM
<p>Evil gods remaining:</p><p>Tallon Zek</p><p>Vallon Zek</p><p>Sullon Zek</p><p>Terris Thule</p><p>Saryrn</p><p>and if they get desperate, they can dig down to the significantly minor gods like Tholluxe Paells, the God of Lust and Debauchery.</p><p>Good Gods remaining:</p><p>Erollisi Marr</p><p>Rodcet Nife</p><p>.... uhh... Morrel Thule...</p><p>......</p><p>Luclin... it hasn't really been revealed if she's evil or neutral. She doesn't get involved in anything.</p><p>Oh yes. Rolfron Zek is a Kobold turned Demi-God by Rallos Zek. He was transformed into the Demi-God of the Forlorned (Rolfron = Forlon)</p>

Mirander_1
05-14-2007, 09:38 PM
<cite>Xyran wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Rolfron ive never heard of, who is that the Zek's pet dog?</p><p>Lanys T'vyl I wouldn't count as a demi-god..... more of a divine mistake.</p></blockquote>Actually, yeah, he basically is <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.  Rolfron was a Kobold Shaman who fought against Rallos' forces even when gripped in despair because of seemingly being abandoned by the Kobold's creator, Brell.  Rallos was so impressed by this that he took the Kobolds as his own, and elevated Rolfron to the Demi-God of Despair. As for Lanys, I recall reading that she became the Demi-Goddess of something-or-another, at some point.

Cusashorn
05-14-2007, 09:49 PM
<p>Lanys T'Vyl was born as the Demi-Goddess of Strife. Much like Hercules, she was mortal and didn't actually have any god-like powers.</p><p>She decided that the first thing she should do as Norrath's newest god was to just destroy the world, so Neriak's armies killed her and burned her body, and Innoruuk took her soul and tore it to shreds.</p>

PassingStranger
05-15-2007, 12:12 AM
<p>While in the classical sense, Lanys and Firiona would both be demi-gods (having one parent that is mortal and one that is a god), I'm not sure that the EQ lore classifies them that way.</p><p>I'm actually not sure all of which ones are considered demi-gods, because there was a whole slew of gods that were not choices in EQ1, but were still very much full gods. For example, the Zek twins, Vallon and Tallon, are the children of Rallos, and I'm fairly certain are considered full gods themselves. I think EQ tends to define demi-gods as mortals who ascended to godhood, like the afformentioned Rolfron Zek.</p><p>There's also some "new" gods that I've seen introduced, I'm not actually sure if they were brought about in EQ2, or if they were mentioned more obscurely in EQ1. There were the two gods apparently worshiped in Fallen Gate, Dymetreax and Byzola (I'm sure I butchered the spelling of both), which I believe are connected to Saryrn. Also, there's the god of the Sul'Dal, Anashti Sul. It's not entirely clear to me whether she's an evil god, or if she simply had evil followers, as she's credited with being a goddess of life - not sure if that's intended to be about undeath, in the sense of undeath being a sort of eternal life, or if the godking and co. just twisted it that way. Perhaps someone else can shed more light on that one.</p><p>Then there's the higher elemental gods, like the Rathe, Xegony, Tarew Marr, etc, etc... But but they're too broad and vague that I hope they don't go that direction. They'd all be neutral anyways.</p>

Cusashorn
05-15-2007, 12:17 AM
Firiona Vie isn't a demi-god. She's completely mortal. Mortal Mother, Mortal Father. She's Tunare's Champion just like all the diety questgivers are thier respective diety's champions in EoF.

PassingStranger
05-15-2007, 12:24 AM
She had a mortal mother, but unless they changed the story, I recall that the king wasn't her real father. She was set up as the inverse of Lanys.

Cusashorn
05-15-2007, 12:25 AM
No, she's a mortal.

Mirander_1
05-15-2007, 01:13 AM
<cite>PassingStranger wrote:</cite><blockquote>She had a mortal mother, but unless they changed the story, I recall that the king wasn't her real father. She was set up as the inverse of Lanys.</blockquote>Nah, the king isn't her father.  Her mom got it on with some paladin, as I remember the story

Xyran
05-15-2007, 01:18 AM
Firiona's father definatly is not mortal.  He came from the plane of growth, and in one of the EQ1 lore stories he is going on begging Tunare to forgive him for defying her laws that beings of growth were not permited to leave the plane and interact with the mortals. (or something like that).  He said that he left the plane, even tho she said not to, and took the form of a high elf and fell in love with the high elven queen, which resulted in FV's birth. What he is, I dont think they actually say, but he is no mortal high elf.

Vyrance
05-15-2007, 01:37 AM
theres quite a few more gods you can pull from. morell thule - id say neutral.  they may make him good, just to oppose terris' plane of nightmares, but he just seems to be a neutral god. hopefully.... dranik.  the supposed father of dragonkind.  he has never had a presence on norrath, but from EQ1's omens of war expansion, he seemed really cool. there were others i was thinking of when i made this post.  but ive been drinking so im going to bed.

Cusashorn
05-15-2007, 01:59 AM
<p>Morrel Thule is a confirmed good God. Even in his description.</p><p>Dranik? Omens of War? not part of this timeline and hopefully wont be brought up.</p>

Besual
05-15-2007, 04:29 AM
I hope for Bertoxxulous to come back. The Wikipedia has an interesting <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EverQuest_Deities" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">article</a> about the gods. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EverQuest_Deities#Bertoxxulous" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"></a>

Illmarr
05-15-2007, 05:22 AM
<cite>Besual wrote:</cite><blockquote>I hope for Bertoxxulous to come back. The Wikipedia has an interesting <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EverQuest_Deities" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">article</a> about the gods. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EverQuest_Deities#Bertoxxulous" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"></a></blockquote> Rejoice! Bert is back in Kunark

Illmarr
05-15-2007, 05:25 AM
Why exactly do we have to keep adding everyone's extended family of gods anyway? How are you going to come up with unique blessings and miracles for all of them? If you can't what's the point? R/P? Ok I'll buy that so long as you are agnostic until your chosen comes along ([Removed for Content] Pirate still has no one to love)

Lightstrider
05-16-2007, 12:42 PM
I think there is a need for more gods due to the fact that the current slate in game offer clear advantages to certain classes, while other classes don't seem to have a diety that is much benefit at all.  If you are a wizard, you have Ro, which can be a real benefit, but whose blessings etc. mean very little to many other classes.  It would be nice to see a slate of gods from which any class can find someone worth worshipping.  I don' t mean we need 24 gods, one per class, or anything like that, but as long as the blessings and miracles are well thought out, they could be desirable to multiple classes.  This gives them both real game application as well as rp application.

Skua
05-16-2007, 12:57 PM
some MELEE DPS for good  some MAGIC DPS for good and i will be happy ^^ in gods queynos get !$"·! up.....only healers and paladins are happy >.>