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Cusashorn
05-05-2007, 12:08 AM
<a href="http://www.eq2daily.com/discuss/sarnack-race-in-kunark-can-anyone-read-japanese-vt2036.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Japanese Translators needed for clarification.</a>

ZUES
05-05-2007, 12:17 AM
<img src="http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/AlexisBrooke/Everquest/Sarnak1.jpg" border="0">

ZUES
05-05-2007, 12:18 AM
<img src="http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/AlexisBrooke/Everquest/Sarnak2.jpg" border="0">

ZUES
05-05-2007, 12:19 AM
Those are from EQ1. Behind them on that ramp was one of the most popular camp spots in the game. Awsome exp and loot.

Dragowulf
05-05-2007, 12:22 AM
didnt we just get a new race

Cusashorn
05-05-2007, 12:24 AM
<cite>ZUES wrote:</cite><blockquote>Those are from EQ1. Behind them on that ramp was one of the most popular camp spots in the game. Awsome exp and loot.</blockquote> Those posts were COMPLETELY unnecissary. You could have just put them in one post...

Josgar
05-05-2007, 12:25 AM
I think the japanese dude was telling people what Sarnaks look like... not saying that is was they will be in EQ2...

Cusashorn
05-05-2007, 12:28 AM
Lets hope so. If they were made into a playable race in EQ2, they'd pretty much have to give the city entirely to thier own race. They hate everyone else, and would never let anyone else start there.

ZUES
05-05-2007, 12:30 AM
It's no fun that way. : D

Dragowulf
05-05-2007, 12:32 AM
Neutral? Or a third faction

Josgar
05-05-2007, 12:32 AM
Who knows, but I can confirm that those are in my Japanese folders.

ZUES
05-05-2007, 12:34 AM
They were a faction all in their own in EQ1. Draconic I would imagine. They are surrounded by dragons and drake. I think they are a humanoid dragon/drake.

Cusashorn
05-05-2007, 12:45 AM
<p>Half Iksar, Half Dragon through magical infusions. they didn't trust ANYBODY. Not even the dragons themselves. They'd form an alliance only when it suited them, and even then it'd be temporary.</p>

Josgar
05-05-2007, 12:51 AM
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/josgar/pic.jpg" border="0">

Controlor
05-05-2007, 12:52 AM
If my lore is correct the iksar necros created them basically twisting dragons around and mixing them with iksars. They were slaves to the iksars. Then there was the big war on kunark which destroyed sebilis (dont remember the war that much). Dragons and iksars basically. And the sarnaks ran off on their own formed Chardok (spelling). And basically killed anyone who ventured close. They tended to stay to themselves didnt really branch that far out (even in kunark). Never left that island also. I originally hopped for a sarnak as a playable race but then remembered to myself that the sarnaks are prob gonna be involved in the storyline of Kunark. Something like the sarnaks took over it all when the big wars came as Iksars are by far the LAZIEST of races (didnt even feel like rebuilding their empire just let it rot).

Ogrebe
05-05-2007, 01:06 AM
Mr. and Ms. Norrath..... i don't know that just dosn't sound right to me.. I mean maybe there going to add a server competition like american idol to get that tittle.. but... it sound out there.. Also, a lot of people feel that RoK will be mostly 70-80 content, if there is a new race then there going to need to add a lot of content. Since there on a longer time table now, they'll need to add more about twise the content of KoS to keep the 70-80 happy for 9 month, and then then the content for 1-70 in RoK just seem like it asking for way to much to be done. I mean i'm looking at 5ish 70-80 outside zones and then 5 for the 1-70 and then all the dugeons, and stuff just seem like they'd have to added twise the amount of content as EoF to have both a level raise and a new race.

Dragowulf
05-05-2007, 01:08 AM
well why would soe have sarnak as a playable race if we just got a new one... If someone can convince me why then i might actually think it's possible, till then all we have is Josgar's japanese files Hmm it's interesting tho.  It's only been what, 500 years, who knows.

Mirander_1
05-05-2007, 01:44 AM
Interesting.  If Sarnaks are indeed a new playable race with Kunark, I'll be very pleased, but more than a little surprised.  At least three new races in the space of two expansions?  I would have thought the Arasai to be the final nail in the coffin for Sarnaks. It bring to mind the question though: if Sarnaks come in RoK, can we expect some sort of good race to pop up a couple of Live Updates later?

ZUES
05-05-2007, 02:12 AM
<p>You know, I'm excited about it and it looks pretty real, but the fact is it kind of ruined the BIG surprise. I think the employee that let this out needs to be tracked down and fired. It totally took the OH MY GOD factor away. Level 80 <img src="/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Finfing out it's being added from a premature leak <img src="/smilies/e78feac27fa924c4d0ad6cf5819f3554.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Oh and I belive what they mean by the Mr and Ms Norrath title means Mr or Ms and nothing else.</p>

Taicheese
05-05-2007, 07:02 AM
look at the screenshots again, they are boxie models... thats eq1 screenshots... eq2 has much better looking models than that.

Josgar
05-05-2007, 10:56 AM
Mr and Mrs Norrath is a Japanese contest... And those were meant to be Everquest one screenshots... (cause if you read the article, which is apparent that you did not translate it through google you would get this: In order to be easy to know, the description which becomes comparison it extracted. You could understand situation, probably will be? @@; The occasion where this description of yesterday is found, the heart tapir tapir saying, while w which is serious writing even now the tapir tapir w which has sounded Because (the picture with Sarnak= sir Nak EQ1, at the picture joint ownership sight you found, it pastes.)) <a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/news_archive.vm?id=185&section=News&locale=ja" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://eq2players.station.sony.com/...s&locale=ja</a>

Raiwa
05-05-2007, 11:07 AM
Welt Mr and Ms Norrath is a GM event that was ran on the Jp's servers if my translation is correct from the station2player site. <a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/news_archive.vm?id=185&section=News&locale=ja" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://eq2players.station.sony.com/...s&locale=ja</a> Which helps bring some truth to the file,  and gives us some answers to allot of the questions for what ROK is bringing if we take this file as truth we know that there will be. <ul><li>new playable race Sarnack</li><li>tier 8 content </li><li>lvl cap raised tradeskill to 80</li><li>lvl cap raised adv to 80</li><li>and the next expansion is Rise of Kunark </li></ul> but still leaves allot of questions,  With Sarnack be evil or good?      My thought is they will be neutral, everyone hates them the same. Will this mean that ROK will have a starting city and lowbie areas 1- 50?      I hope not but i don't see how they could avoid it with out making the new race start in the existing  citys. How much tier 8 content is coming in ROK ?      And many others out there,  I just feel in my mind that this info from this file is correct it just seems right with what the next exp was to be. We should be hearing something soon. Sony has a big press release announced for this week coming out about 2 new license agreements. Which will most likely be the announcement of the next expansion and that SOE is purchasing Sigil (Vangaurd). just my 2cp for the rumor mill

ZUES
05-05-2007, 11:12 AM
<cite>Taicheese wrote:</cite><blockquote>look at the screenshots again, they are boxie models... thats eq1 screenshots... eq2 has much better looking models than that.</blockquote><p>Ya the pictures were copy and paste from the OP's link. They are EQ1 and did you read what I wrote right under them?</p><p>Well, at least you figured out they were EQ1 lol. /sarcasm off </p>

Josgar
05-05-2007, 11:25 AM
<cite>ZUES wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Taicheese wrote:</cite><blockquote>look at the screenshots again, they are boxie models... thats eq1 screenshots... eq2 has much better looking models than that.</blockquote><p>Ya the pictures were copy and paste from the OP's link. They are EQ1 and did you read what I wrote right under them?</p><p>Well, at least you figured out they were EQ1 lol. /sarcasm off </p></blockquote>Yay for reading the entire article through goolge translator: cause if you read the article, which is apparent that you did not translate it through google you would get this: In order to be easy to know, the description which becomes comparison it extracted. You could understand situation, probably will be? @@; The occasion where this description of yesterday is found, the heart tapir tapir saying, while w which is serious writing even now the tapir tapir w which has sounded Because (the picture with Sarnak= sir Nak EQ1, at the picture joint ownership sight you found, it pastes. Anyways.... I wonedr if they will do a Neriak-esque thing and have the starting city feed you into old content. And... I have this file in my JP version too. I can take screenshots of it. Have any ideas what I could do to it to prove that its true?

Cusashorn
05-05-2007, 12:10 PM
<cite>Raiwake wrote:</cite><blockquote>With Sarnack be evil or good?      My thought is they will be neutral, everyone hates them the same. Will this mean that ROK will have a starting city and lowbie areas 1- 50?      I hope not but i don't see how they could avoid it with out making the new race start in the existing  citys. </blockquote> And the Sarnaks hates everyone else just the same, making them evil who hates evil and good.

Vyrance
05-05-2007, 02:35 PM
If the Sarnak are playable in Kunark, it would be awesome to also get the Coldain in Velious.

AbsentmindedMage
05-05-2007, 03:25 PM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote>Mr. and Ms. Norrath..... i don't know that just dosn't sound right to me.. I mean maybe there going to add a server competition like american idol to get that tittle.. but... it sound out there.. Also, a lot of people feel that RoK will be mostly 70-80 content, if there is a new race then there going to need to add a lot of content. Since there on a longer time table now, they'll need to add more about twise the content of KoS to keep the 70-80 happy for 9 month, and then then the content for 1-70 in RoK just seem like it asking for way to much to be done. I mean i'm looking at 5ish 70-80 outside zones and then 5 for the 1-70 and then all the dugeons, and stuff just seem like they'd have to added twise the amount of content as EoF to have both a level raise and a new race. </blockquote> Not necessarily.  They could simply add a starting city and low level area that got them upto mid teens.  The players would then have to move onto the older content zones that would carry them up further.

Guru-guru
05-05-2007, 03:34 PM
<cite>Josgar wrote:</cite><blockquote>Mr and Mrs Norrath is a Japanese contest... And those were meant to be Everquest one screenshots... (cause if you read the article, which is apparent that you did not translate it through google you would get this: In order to be easy to know, the description which becomes comparison it extracted. You could understand situation, probably will be? @@; The occasion where this description of yesterday is found, the heart tapir tapir saying, while w which is serious writing even now the tapir tapir w which has sounded Because (the picture with Sarnak= sir Nak EQ1, at the picture joint ownership sight you found, it pastes.)) <a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/news_archive.vm?id=185&section=News&locale=ja" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://eq2players.station.sony.com/...s&locale=ja</a> </blockquote> It seems to translate my blog. I summarize the part which I wrote <blockquote><blockquote><span style="font-family: georgia,palatino">2761610578 33 ctcf31a27538060d05 Fae are available in the Echoes of Faydwer expansion pack. 2185837101 33 ctcf31a275e743e7f8 Sarnak are available in the Rise of Kunark expansion pack.</span></blockquote> I pulled out a twin description from a translation file for Japanese server. When I found this description yesterday, my heart seemed to explode. I was surprised very much.I throb while writing this entry. I reprint screenshot of Sarnak in EQ1 from phobucket.</blockquote>

Mirander_1
05-05-2007, 09:34 PM
Ok, well, assuming that Sarnaks will indeed be the next race, I figured I'd throw out two things I like to see done with them, on the off chance a dev-type checks out this thread: 1.) Wings- Yeah, I know they didn't have wings in EQlive (but neither did Aviaks, and you can see how that turned out).  And yes, this would make it the third new race to have wings out of a grand total of... three.  But really, I just want to see one winged race that isn't a dang fairy, and dragonmen seem a good place to pull that off. 2.) Wide Range of Colors and Horn Styles- Since they obviously won't have hair or beards, replace those with a bunch of options for styles of horns, crests, and sails.  At the least, I want enough options that, if I wished, I could find color/horn combos to create a humaniod version of any dragon currently in the game (eg.: white scales+small head sail= Vox; yellow scales+forward-sweeping horns and nose horn= Venekor)

Dragowulf
05-05-2007, 11:45 PM
im interested if this really is true, what they will look like in eq2 w/ the graphics.

Shompta
05-06-2007, 05:06 AM
<p>Raising the level cap to 80 and also including content for all levels would be possible, as long as the lower level content is kept thin enough. They could do it like this... 7 major outdoor zones (only 2 more than EOF)</p><p>1. 1-20</p><p>2. 20-40</p><p>3. 40-60</p><p>4. 60-75</p><p>5. 70-80</p><p>6. 70-80</p><p>7. 75-80</p><p>This would give us content for all levels while maintaining as many top level outdoor zones as we currently have. </p><p>We would need dungeons to go with these of course... The devs could follow the example of EOF and have most of the dungeons be higher level.</p>

Lightstrider
05-06-2007, 09:05 AM
I'm not buying it.  I think we have our new race, and it is the Arasai.  Not likely to see another new race for awhile, not when they have balance now.  Sadly, Cabilis is likely to be reduced tot he level of Rivervale, Kaladim, etc.

Josgar
05-06-2007, 11:30 AM
I dont see why every one assumes that the whole continent will be 1-80 I mean, look what they just did to Neriak, it is only 1-18ish The could easily do that with Sarnak

AbsentmindedMage
05-06-2007, 11:56 AM
<cite>Josgar wrote:</cite><blockquote>I dont see why every one assumes that the whole continent will be 1-80 I mean, look what they just did to Neriak, it is only 1-18ish The could easily do that with Sarnak </blockquote>I agree with the high elf.  They could have it such that they get a starting city and a small low level area to which they can work their way upto the mid to upper teens.  Afterwards, they can be transitioned into the older content to allow them to gain the levels back upto 60 range and higher which is where hopefully the expansion will focus.  I would like to see a lot of 65 to 80 zones.

DMIstar
05-07-2007, 12:45 AM
Im hopeing this to be true ) Would like to see a actual New playable Race Added to the evil side. Lvl Wise, Im thinking this will be a huge Expansion err hopeing since they have seemed not to let any info out on it yet ;/.. Last year we knew of EoF in Jan.

Ever-Befallen
05-07-2007, 01:17 AM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote>Im hopeing this to be true ) Would like to see a actual New playable Race Added to the evil side. Lvl Wise, Im thinking this will be a huge Expansion err hopeing since they have seemed not to let any info out on it yet ;/.. <b>Last year we knew of EoF in Jan</b>. </blockquote> EOF was announced in May.

Ansek
05-07-2007, 02:16 PM
Have a look at <a href="http://www.wtfcomics.com/archive.html?299_127" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">[Removed for Content] Comics here</a>, for a very VERY brief overlook of what happened in Kunark and how the Sarnak came to be. It's not quite lore but the dragon in the last frame on this page always makes me giggle. Just spent a happy hour rereading the whole thing, the comic started about the time I started playing EQ - brought back some very happy memories. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

cronar
05-07-2007, 08:00 PM
<p>They did a fantastic job on the kunark for eq1 in terms of having content all the way from 1 to 60, and i am sure they can make it work again for the new kunark.</p><p>If the majority of the landmass hasn't changed shape from the odd circle it was, they could easily design enough zones in a linear fashion going counter clockwise from the south on around, going from 1 to 80.</p><p>The best expansions soe has put out have always had content for all levels. The worst ones are the ones designed solely for the highest levels.</p>

DMIstar
05-07-2007, 08:48 PM
Wow you didnt learn about EoF till May ? ;/ with the dev chats and all ?

ke'la
05-07-2007, 09:15 PM
<cite>Shompta wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Raising the level cap to 80 and also including content for all levels would be possible, as long as the lower level content is kept thin enough. They could do it like this... 7 major outdoor zones (only 2 more than EOF)</p><p>1. 1-<strike>20</strike> 25</p><p>2. <strike>20-40</strike> 25-45</p><p>3. <strike>40-60</strike> 45-65</p><p>4. <strike>60-75</strike> 65-70</p><p>5. 70-<strike>80 </strike>75</p><p>6. 75 <strike>70</strike>-80</p><p>7. 78+</p><p>This would give us content for all levels while maintaining as many top level outdoor zones as we currently have. </p><p>We would need dungeons to go with these of course... The devs could follow the example of EOF and have most of the dungeons be higher level.</p></blockquote>I changed it to reflect how I think they should/will do it if they do RoK as a 1-80 expaintion

Solar_Fla
05-08-2007, 03:36 AM
There is also the possibility that the Sarnak hometown is similar to Maj Dul, where the city itself is dangerous to be in. The reason I say this is because Neriak is going to be a new starting city. If Sarnaks become a playable race it would be neat if it required a raid like SotL to complete to show to the Sarnaks us outsiders are worthy or something. Thus unlocking the race, and giving a sense of progression to each server. I dunno just ideas. All in all though I can't wait and this is my prediction for the expansion (granted some things mentioned already but there is no fact to it till the official announcement). 80 level cap (thank god for upgraded spells finally!) 70 guild cap (with worthwhile rewards this time) New Playable Race - Sarnak Level 65 - 80 content only (Similar to KoS except for a small amount of zones for lowbie Sarnaks) Exponentially better Itemization accross the board from solo to raid content At Least 5 to 6 new Raid Instances At least 6 to 10 new Contested Encounters with progressive degrees of difficulty Minimum of 6 new Heroic Instances New zones that equates  to 70% of old Kunark (which was fricken massive from eq1) 50 brand spanking new AA's I know some of those are wish list items but I think SoE knows with people decked out in 70 fabled (from casual to hardcore) it will be easy for them to level and then they are at a cap again and if the raid content isn't engaging enough and the heroic instances as well as dungeons worthwhile enough to go into then the expansion will be the death of EQ2. On the other hand if they pull it together and make the expansion with just the minimum I stated here, there will be plenty of content to go around especially after the success of KoS and EoF. Both Expansions were alot of fun to play in. Also for those thinking about trivializing content like Woushi and Mayong Mistmoore from lvl 80's, your wrong. It progression. The badass knights of every server have downed them both and by the time the expansion hits people in casual guilds will be killing woushi. Not just from a raid perspective either. Heroic content will need to be quite widespread. If I remember anything about the Kunark of EQ1, was that it was BIG, there was so much space to that continent and the zones were rich and beautiful. Kunark helped put EQ1 on the map and if they plan on following suit in EQ2 they cannot let down that legacy. This coming expansion really will determin wether the game sinks or swims.

Talz
05-08-2007, 02:41 PM
<cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Half Iksar, Half Dragon through magical infusions. they didn't trust ANYBODY. Not even the dragons themselves. They'd form an alliance only when it suited them, and even then it'd be temporary.</p> </blockquote>I have a clicky ring and some shoulders that are sooo 2000 collecting dust that say otherwise.

Josgar
05-09-2007, 11:21 PM
<img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> see the files were true!

Galithdor
05-09-2007, 11:53 PM
Well the Sarnak player race was announced lol and their home town is 1-20 from what scott said <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Lol im guessing that Sarnak will be the 7th neutral race since they are thinking of making all neutral races start in Gorowin too (Sarnak city name <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />) I cant wait for this expansion hehe