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Selioth
04-24-2007, 07:34 PM
yeah I think Ill stick with my carpet and not drop the plat to get one now, if its not 50% or higher then its not worth having, has no stats on it like other mounts and have to do quests and pay for it, IMO at least 50% if not 52%.

Arathy
04-24-2007, 07:38 PM
warg > carpet

Selioth
04-24-2007, 07:41 PM
not worth the money, + with a warg you get the slowed down back up and with a carpet you dont, and im on a pvp server were things like that count

Selioth
04-24-2007, 07:42 PM
<cite>Arathyen wrote:</cite><blockquote>warg > carpet </blockquote>PS, Monks > Bruisers

Josgar
04-24-2007, 08:12 PM
Test Update<i> April / 24 / 2007</i> <p>*** Gameplay ***</p> <p>Gardener thirgen in Emerald Halls has an AOE charm spell that will now only affect Players, not pets and  is now limited to a max of eight players.  </p> <p>The Warg run speed boost has been slightly reduced.</p> <p>it is even worth less now! </p>

kal-l
04-24-2007, 08:29 PM
You should read the rest of the notes.  First it was 40% run speed for 10 plat.  Then they dropped the price to 5 plat and changed the speed to 50%.  Now its still 5 plat and moves at 45%.  Its still a fantastic deal at that price for doing some easy quests.

Arathy
04-24-2007, 09:29 PM
<cite>Selioth wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Arathyen wrote:</cite><blockquote>warg > carpet </blockquote>PS, Monks > Bruisers </blockquote> Keep dreaming, sissy monkey! <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

willnotuse
04-24-2007, 09:33 PM
I smell duplicate thread.

CyraDUS
04-24-2007, 09:41 PM
<p>I think the Wargs are going in for thier "Fun factor".</p><p> A lot of folks were complaining that there were not enough choices when it came to mounts. Now they add something different to ride around on and people complain over the run speed.</p><p>Isn't it just good enough that we can have a Warg mount? It <i>is</i> different than a carpet or a horse. I don't think most people could even notice 5% in their run speed and even if you can..who cares? It's new quests..new content...and something else to ride on.</p><p>Kudos to SOE for giving us another choice in mounts.</p>

Chay
04-24-2007, 10:07 PM
Next year the gnomes will be inventing the motorcycle.

Inuyas
04-25-2007, 05:41 AM
<cite>Chayna wrote:</cite><blockquote>Next year the gnomes will be inventing the motorcycle. </blockquote> Ha!

Kaiser Sigma
04-25-2007, 07:55 AM
<cite>Selioth wrote:</cite><blockquote>yeah I think Ill stick with my carpet and not drop the plat to get one now, if its not 50% or higher then its not worth having, has no stats on it like other mounts and have to do quests and pay for it, IMO at least 50% if not 52%. </blockquote> I lol'd at that...

Kizee
04-25-2007, 09:07 AM
<p>Get your guild to level 60 if you want a 50% speed mount.</p><p>I would be ticked if they made the wargs 50% and all you had to do was a simple quest and pay 5pp. </p><p>I think they need to drop the speed more if the speed is 45% and 5pp pricetag.</p>

Wingrider01
04-25-2007, 09:39 AM
<cite>Kizee wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Get your guild to level 60 if you want a 50% speed mount.</p><p>I would be ticked if they made the wargs 50% and all you had to do was a simple quest and pay 5pp. </p><p>I think they need to drop the speed more if the speed is 45% and 5pp pricetag.</p></blockquote>Unfortunately for the majority of players that cannot devote the time from real life to do what you say this is not possible. It is another case of the game being designed to cater and coddle to the minority of the player base rather then the majority of the player base. Guess I will take that offer up to be able to join a level 60 guild for a nominal charge  then buy my high end horse then deguild. Go free market system...

Igu
04-25-2007, 09:43 AM
<p>Imho, 45% for 5pp is perfect. My monk will be burning his rug now. </p><p>Hmmm...I seem to remember suggesting 45% a few days ago. <img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

Gungo
04-25-2007, 09:47 AM
<cite>Wingrider01 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Kizee wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Get your guild to level 60 if you want a 50% speed mount.</p><p>I would be ticked if they made the wargs 50% and all you had to do was a simple quest and pay 5pp. </p><p>I think they need to drop the speed more if the speed is 45% and 5pp pricetag.</p></blockquote>Unfortunately for the majority of players that cannot devote the time from real life to do what you say this is not possible. It is another case of the game being designed to cater and coddle to the minority of the player base rather then the majority of the player base. Guess I will take that offer up to be able to join a level 60 guild for a nominal charge  then buy my high end horse then deguild. Go free market system... </blockquote>If you are really complaining about a 5% UPGRADE for 5pp you should be really [Removed for Content] to know the next guild horse is a 3% upgrade for (20pp) 15pp MORE.

Kizee
04-25-2007, 10:34 AM
<cite>Wingrider01 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Kizee wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Get your guild to level 60 if you want a 50% speed mount.</p><p>I would be ticked if they made the wargs 50% and all you had to do was a simple quest and pay 5pp. </p><p>I think they need to drop the speed more if the speed is 45% and 5pp pricetag.</p></blockquote>Unfortunately for the majority of players that cannot devote the time from real life to do what you say this is not possible. It is another case of the game being designed to cater and coddle to the minority of the player base rather then the majority of the player base. Guess I will take that offer up to be able to join a level 60 guild for a nominal charge  then buy my high end horse then deguild. Go free market system... </blockquote><p> Yep, I totally understand that the majortity of MMORPG players that play today are lazy and don't want to work toward any type of goal.</p><p>I am so tired of hearing the "Whaaaaaa...I don't have time because I work and have a wife and kids" excuse. Maybe you people shouldn't be playing a time consuming game like this if you don't have the time.</p>

Kinvore
04-25-2007, 10:55 AM
Anyone who joins a level 60 guild (or levels one to 60) just for a mount should be ignored on principle anyway.

NightrunnerX
04-25-2007, 11:08 AM
<p>I am so tired of hearing the "Whaaaaaa...I don't have time because I work and have a wife and kids" excuse. Maybe you people shouldn't be playing a time consuming game like this if you don't have the time.</p><p>Wow, are you seriously berating someone for having a life outside of EQ2?</p><p>Just because someone is upset about the Warg doesn't mean their complaints are based on a time factor. My guild is almost lvl 60 and the complaints I have are not based upon GL60 mounts run speed vs. Warg run speed.</p><p> And FYI EQ2 is only a time consuming game if one makes it so. I have a full time professional career and work on a master's degree at the same time while playing EQ2 in my free time and still have a lvl 70 char. with over 5 active alts. So making a general comment about EQ2 as a whole is highly illogical.</p>

Kizee
04-25-2007, 11:17 AM
<cite>NightrunnerX wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I am so tired of hearing the "Whaaaaaa...I don't have time because I work and have a wife and kids" excuse. Maybe you people shouldn't be playing a time consuming game like this if you don't have the time.</p><p>Wow, are you seriously berating someone for having a life outside of EQ2?</p><p>Just because someone is upset about the Warg doesn't mean their complaints are based on a time factor. My guild is almost lvl 60 and the complaints I have are not based upon GL60 mounts run speed vs. Warg run speed.</p><p> And FYI EQ2 is only a time consuming game if one makes it so. I have a full time professional career and work on a master's degree at the same time while playing EQ2 in my free time and still have a lvl 70 char. with over 5 active alts. So making a general comment about EQ2 as a whole is highly illogical.</p></blockquote><p>Not berating anybody but that seems to be the common excuse for the gotta have it now people that don't want to work toward a goal.</p><p>IMO if you don't have the time then don't expect to have the top end stuff.</p><p>But back on topic.... the quested warg should be = to the speed of the carpet since it is a quested mount. If you want the faster mounts either raid or get your guild to 60. (are the carpets 45%? I don't know becuase I thought they were stupid looking and never did quest)</p>

NightrunnerX
04-25-2007, 11:34 AM
<p>Carpet run speed = 40% and the Carpet Quests sound like much more of a pain than the Warq quests will be and the carpet is free. Now the Warg, as I understand it, should go live with 45%, require a quest (maybe a series of quests?), and cost 5 plat and have no abilities whatsoever. </p><p>1 plat per % increase in run speed sounds fair and since it doesn't have any resists or skill+, in my opinion it really doesn't infringe on the GL60 mounts. GL60 mounts will still be much better because really, do people get the mounts for the +10% run speed over carpets or cheaper horses or do they get them for 1) the appearance 2) the resists and 3) the skill+? Seriously, I don't have GL60 mount yet so what is an individuals reasoning for purchasing this mount? Please post if it is in fact the +10% increase in out of combat speed.</p>

Drewx
04-25-2007, 11:35 AM
<cite>Kizee wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>NightrunnerX wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I am so tired of hearing the "Whaaaaaa...I don't have time because I work and have a wife and kids" excuse. Maybe you people shouldn't be playing a time consuming game like this if you don't have the time.</p><p>Wow, are you seriously berating someone for having a life outside of EQ2?</p><p>Just because someone is upset about the Warg doesn't mean their complaints are based on a time factor. My guild is almost lvl 60 and the complaints I have are not based upon GL60 mounts run speed vs. Warg run speed.</p><p> And FYI EQ2 is only a time consuming game if one makes it so. I have a full time professional career and work on a master's degree at the same time while playing EQ2 in my free time and still have a lvl 70 char. with over 5 active alts. So making a general comment about EQ2 as a whole is highly illogical.</p></blockquote><p>Not berating anybody but that seems to be the common excuse for the gotta have it now people that don't want to work toward a goal.</p><p>IMO if you don't have the time then don't expect to have the top end stuff.</p><p>But back on topic.... the quested warg should be = to the speed of the carpet since it is a quested mount. If you want the faster mounts either raid or get your guild to 60. (are the carpets 45%? I don't know becuase I thought they were stupid looking and never did quest)</p></blockquote><p>I've said this many times...but most guilds have their heads so far up there backsides they fail to see it... But IF MEMORY serves me right...EQ II was DESIGNED as a game for BOTH the Casual and Hardcore player, DESIGNED to have balance between the casual and hardcore. Not be another one sided game where you either join a guild or don't bother playing.</p><p>Kizee wrote: "But back on topic.... the quested warg should be = to the speed of the carpet since it is a quested mount. <u><b>If you want the faster mounts either raid or get your guild to 60.</b></u> (are the carpets 45%? I don't know becuase I thought they were stupid looking and never did quest)"</p><p>That is a load of crap. No one should be forced to be in a guild or join a guild. Pretty much to raid you have to be in a guild, therefore there is lots of content the casual player misses out on already. Allowing the casual player to obtain a 50% mount. Don't reply with a smug: "You must not like to work towards anything." I farmed and farmed to get my Black Saddled Rujarkian Destrier for 14p. I felt the Worg needed a price bump, not a downgrade. I was looking forward to warning my former new mount.</p><p>And Carpets are 40%... Barely worth the effort of that questline. Then again when I did the quest the mobs were still 60+...</p>

Drewx
04-25-2007, 11:36 AM
<cite>NightrunnerX wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Carpet run speed = 40% and the Carpet Quests sound like much more of a pain than the Warq quests will be and the carpet is free. Now the Warg, as I understand it, should go live with 45%, require a quest (maybe a series of quests?), and cost 5 plat and have no abilities whatsoever. </p><p>1 plat per % increase in run speed sounds fair and since it doesn't have any resists or skill+, in my opinion it really doesn't infringe on the GL60 mounts. GL60 mounts will still be much better because really, do people get the mounts for the +10% run speed over carpets or cheaper horses or do they get them for 1) the appearance 2) the resists and 3) the skill+? Seriously, I don't have GL60 mount yet so what is an individuals reasoning for purchasing this mount? Please post if it is in fact the +10% increase in out of combat speed.</p></blockquote> The guilds in unison have pretty much stated that its runspeed.

Kizee
04-25-2007, 12:23 PM
<cite>Drewx wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Kizee wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>NightrunnerX wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I am so tired of hearing the "Whaaaaaa...I don't have time because I work and have a wife and kids" excuse. Maybe you people shouldn't be playing a time consuming game like this if you don't have the time.</p><p>Wow, are you seriously berating someone for having a life outside of EQ2?</p><p>Just because someone is upset about the Warg doesn't mean their complaints are based on a time factor. My guild is almost lvl 60 and the complaints I have are not based upon GL60 mounts run speed vs. Warg run speed.</p><p> And FYI EQ2 is only a time consuming game if one makes it so. I have a full time professional career and work on a master's degree at the same time while playing EQ2 in my free time and still have a lvl 70 char. with over 5 active alts. So making a general comment about EQ2 as a whole is highly illogical.</p></blockquote><p>Not berating anybody but that seems to be the common excuse for the gotta have it now people that don't want to work toward a goal.</p><p>IMO if you don't have the time then don't expect to have the top end stuff.</p><p>But back on topic.... the quested warg should be = to the speed of the carpet since it is a quested mount. If you want the faster mounts either raid or get your guild to 60. (are the carpets 45%? I don't know becuase I thought they were stupid looking and never did quest)</p></blockquote><p>I've said this many times...but most guilds have their heads so far up there backsides they fail to see it... But IF MEMORY serves me right...EQ II was DESIGNED as a game for BOTH the Casual and Hardcore player, DESIGNED to have balance between the casual and hardcore. Not be another one sided game where you either join a guild or don't bother playing.</p><p>Kizee wrote: "But back on topic.... the quested warg should be = to the speed of the carpet since it is a quested mount. <u><b>If you want the faster mounts either raid or get your guild to 60.</b></u> (are the carpets 45%? I don't know becuase I thought they were stupid looking and never did quest)"</p><p>That is a load of crap. No one should be forced to be in a guild or join a guild. Pretty much to raid you have to be in a guild, therefore there is lots of content the casual player misses out on already. Allowing the casual player to obtain a 50% mount. Don't reply with a smug: "You must not like to work towards anything." I farmed and farmed to get my Black Saddled Rujarkian Destrier for 14p. I felt the Worg needed a price bump, not a downgrade. I was looking forward to warning my former new mount.</p><p>And Carpets are 40%... Barely worth the effort of that questline. Then again when I did the quest the mobs were still 60+...</p></blockquote><p>If they make an easy quest and 5pp for a 50% mount then why would anybody want the GL 60 mounts that you have to put hundreds of hours in to level and pay 5x the cost of the warg? Yes they have a couple of stats but does that make up for how hard it is to get or the expense?</p><p>BTW, if this game gets any more casual I will puke so don't use the casual excuse. </p><p>This game is VERY casual friendly but you should still have to work for the best items. If you are lazy just admit it and not throw the casual card on the table. </p>

Valdaglerion
04-25-2007, 12:30 PM
<cite>Kizee wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Get your guild to level 60 if you want a 50% speed mount.</p><p>I would be ticked if they made the wargs 50% and all you had to do was a simple quest and pay 5pp. </p><p>I think they need to drop the speed more if the speed is 45% and 5pp pricetag.</p></blockquote><p> So tell me, how much guild status do you have in your level 60 guild?</p>

Valdaglerion
04-25-2007, 12:40 PM
<cite>Kizee wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Drewx wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Kizee wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>NightrunnerX wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I am so tired of hearing the "Whaaaaaa...I don't have time because I work and have a wife and kids" excuse. Maybe you people shouldn't be playing a time consuming game like this if you don't have the time.</p><p>Wow, are you seriously berating someone for having a life outside of EQ2?</p><p>Just because someone is upset about the Warg doesn't mean their complaints are based on a time factor. My guild is almost lvl 60 and the complaints I have are not based upon GL60 mounts run speed vs. Warg run speed.</p><p> And FYI EQ2 is only a time consuming game if one makes it so. I have a full time professional career and work on a master's degree at the same time while playing EQ2 in my free time and still have a lvl 70 char. with over 5 active alts. So making a general comment about EQ2 as a whole is highly illogical.</p></blockquote><p>Not berating anybody but that seems to be the common excuse for the gotta have it now people that don't want to work toward a goal.</p><p>IMO if you don't have the time then don't expect to have the top end stuff.</p><p>But back on topic.... the quested warg should be = to the speed of the carpet since it is a quested mount. If you want the faster mounts either raid or get your guild to 60. (are the carpets 45%? I don't know becuase I thought they were stupid looking and never did quest)</p></blockquote><p>I've said this many times...but most guilds have their heads so far up there backsides they fail to see it... But IF MEMORY serves me right...EQ II was DESIGNED as a game for BOTH the Casual and Hardcore player, DESIGNED to have balance between the casual and hardcore. Not be another one sided game where you either join a guild or don't bother playing.</p><p>Kizee wrote: "But back on topic.... the quested warg should be = to the speed of the carpet since it is a quested mount. <u><b>If you want the faster mounts either raid or get your guild to 60.</b></u> (are the carpets 45%? I don't know becuase I thought they were stupid looking and never did quest)"</p><p>That is a load of crap. No one should be forced to be in a guild or join a guild. Pretty much to raid you have to be in a guild, therefore there is lots of content the casual player misses out on already. Allowing the casual player to obtain a 50% mount. Don't reply with a smug: "You must not like to work towards anything." I farmed and farmed to get my Black Saddled Rujarkian Destrier for 14p. I felt the Worg needed a price bump, not a downgrade. I was looking forward to warning my former new mount.</p><p>And Carpets are 40%... Barely worth the effort of that questline. Then again when I did the quest the mobs were still 60+...</p></blockquote><p>If they make an easy quest and 5pp for a 50% mount then why would anybody want the GL 60 mounts that you have to put hundreds of hours in to level and pay 5x the cost of the warg? Yes they have a couple of stats but does that make up for how hard it is to get or the expense?</p><p>BTW, if this game gets any more casual I will puke so don't use the casual excuse. </p><p>This game is VERY casual friendly but you should still have to work for the best items. If you are lazy just admit it and not throw the casual card on the table. </p></blockquote><p>Personally, I have a top spot on the leaderboards for most status. I just personally dislike the larger guilds, too much drama, too much arrogance, lot less fun factor. I am a guild leader and we have a small guild of friends that have truly like minded play style. Considering we have leveled our guild to almost 40 on the efforts of really only 3 toons and in less than 6 months - I cant play the casual card. </p><p>What I want is the uber factor left to the personal achievement level, not the collective. The level 60 guilds that took hundreds of people to get there are a true JOKE in my opinion. You want to impress me, do it with less than 10 people, dont buy your status items and make guild demotions possible so when you lose members you lose status. That would be something worth something in my opinion, until then, they can keep their holier than thou attitude. </p><p>Heck, makes it more of a challenge for me because when we get there we will have earned the right to look down on the larger guilds knowing we achieved more, with less "uberness" and fewer people. There is a sense of achievement the larger guilds just keep taking away from themselves and then complaining about how easy the game is getting. All I can say is be careful what you wish for, SOE might listen and nerf a lot of the high end stuff so it wont be so easy for you anymore <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </p>

AlawnGnome
04-25-2007, 12:43 PM
They should have added a lvl 60 guild warg with the same buff as the horse.  Then everyone would be happy.

NightrunnerX
04-25-2007, 12:49 PM
<p>Just becuase a guild is lvl 60 doesn't mean they are an uber large guild with tons of drama and an un-fun atmosphere. The guild Golden Spoon on Antionia Bayle is almost level 60 and is in the top 5 as far as number of members. Drama occurs of course, it happens in almost any guild and honeslty a lot worse in smaller guilds I have been in. The atmoshpere is friendly there and no one has ever felt like they had to spend hundreds of hours grinding to GL60. So saying that the Warg mount throws off any sense of accomplishment from a guild achieving 60 is completely opinion. </p>

Kizee
04-25-2007, 01:01 PM
<cite>Valdaglerion wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Kizee wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Get your guild to level 60 if you want a 50% speed mount.</p><p>I would be ticked if they made the wargs 50% and all you had to do was a simple quest and pay 5pp. </p><p>I think they need to drop the speed more if the speed is 45% and 5pp pricetag.</p></blockquote><p> So tell me, how much guild status do you have in your level 60 guild?</p></blockquote><p> I don't remember off hand but I have put my time in grinding. </p><p>I ground writs to get a guild to 30 then 40 then 50.... I switched guilds because that guild folded and ground writs to cap the new guild just to have that one break up and form into a raiding guild which I helped grind to 60 AGAIN. </p><p>So don't give me the crap "how much status do you have in your guild" because I have put in my dues.</p>

Wingrider01
04-25-2007, 01:30 PM
<cite>Kizee wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Wingrider01 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Kizee wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Get your guild to level 60 if you want a 50% speed mount.</p><p>I would be ticked if they made the wargs 50% and all you had to do was a simple quest and pay 5pp. </p><p>I think they need to drop the speed more if the speed is 45% and 5pp pricetag.</p></blockquote>Unfortunately for the majority of players that cannot devote the time from real life to do what you say this is not possible. It is another case of the game being designed to cater and coddle to the minority of the player base rather then the majority of the player base. Guess I will take that offer up to be able to join a level 60 guild for a nominal charge  then buy my high end horse then deguild. Go free market system... </blockquote><p> Yep, I totally understand that the majortity of MMORPG players that play today are lazy and don't want to work toward any type of goal.</p><p>I am so tired of hearing the "Whaaaaaa...I don't have time because I work and have a wife and kids" excuse. Maybe you people shouldn't be playing a time consuming game like this if you don't have the time.</p></blockquote><p> ROFL - I don;t want to WORK for what I get, you are so far off base with that comment it is not even in the same plan of existance. I work, I have 3 kids, I am on call 7x24x365 and have to respond to calls and be ready to travel anywhere in the world at a minutes notice.  Please don't assume that anyone that cannot devote 90 percent of the their off duty life to a virtual environment does not want to "WORK" for anything, there is a difference between wanting to do the "WORK" and having the casual existance with no calls on free time in the real world. My character has the plat, he has enough personal status points built up to buy the top end horse 5 times over,  I "WORKED" for that, I "EARNED" it in the time that I have played. I just cannot devote my limited free time to what ever standards a virtual set of pixels try to set. I could go on and on, but it would I would say would cross over the line and be edited, I have no desire to do so, quit assuming things and making blanket statements like this - keep an open mind on that elitist senario if that is any possiblity.  </p><p>A guild level of 60 means zilch in some cases, there are guilds out there that the only reason they pushed to 60 is to be able to sell the ability to purchase the "status items" to players that have real life commitments and cannot devote the time to that, get free marketing idea, one that I plan on taking advantage of as soon as I get back in country this time.</p>

NightrunnerX
04-25-2007, 01:36 PM
<p>ROFL - I don;t want to WORK for what I get, you are so far off base with that comment it is not even in the same plan of existance. I work, I have 3 kids, I am on call 7x24x365 and have to respond to calls and be ready to travel anywhere in the world at a minutes notice.  Please don't assume that anyone that cannot devote 90 percent of the their off duty life to a virtual environment does not want to "WORK" for anything, there is a difference between wanting to do the "WORK" and having the casual existance with no calls on free time in the real world. My character has the plat, he has enough personal status points built up to buy the top end horse 5 times over,  I "WORKED" for that, I "EARNED" it in the time that I have played. I just cannot devote my limited free time to what ever standards a virtual set of pixels try to set. I could go on and on, but it would I would say would cross over the line and be edited, I have no desire to do so, quit assuming things and making blanket statements like this - keep an open mind on that elitist senario if that is any possiblity.</p><hr /><p>/agree 100%</p>

Wingrider01
04-25-2007, 01:40 PM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote><cite>Wingrider01 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Kizee wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Get your guild to level 60 if you want a 50% speed mount.</p><p>I would be ticked if they made the wargs 50% and all you had to do was a simple quest and pay 5pp. </p><p>I think they need to drop the speed more if the speed is 45% and 5pp pricetag.</p></blockquote>Unfortunately for the majority of players that cannot devote the time from real life to do what you say this is not possible. It is another case of the game being designed to cater and coddle to the minority of the player base rather then the majority of the player base. Guess I will take that offer up to be able to join a level 60 guild for a nominal charge  then buy my high end horse then deguild. Go free market system... </blockquote>If you are really complaining about a 5% UPGRADE for 5pp you should be really [Removed for Content] to know the next guild horse is a 3% upgrade for (20pp) 15pp MORE. </blockquote>Not complaining at all, cost is not the object here, would have payed the 10pp with no issues for the Warg. When I get back in country I plan on getting the guild level 60 horse, going to cost me more with the level 60 guild membership surcharge

Valdaglerion
04-25-2007, 03:28 PM
<cite>Kizee wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Valdaglerion wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Kizee wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Get your guild to level 60 if you want a 50% speed mount.</p><p>I would be ticked if they made the wargs 50% and all you had to do was a simple quest and pay 5pp. </p><p>I think they need to drop the speed more if the speed is 45% and 5pp pricetag.</p></blockquote><p> So tell me, how much guild status do you have in your level 60 guild?</p></blockquote><p> I don't remember off hand but I have put my time in grinding. </p><p>I ground writs to get a guild to 30 then 40 then 50.... I switched guilds because that guild folded and ground writs to cap the new guild just to have that one break up and form into a raiding guild which I helped grind to 60 AGAIN. </p><p>So don't give me the crap "how much status do you have in your guild" because I have put in my dues.</p></blockquote><p>Many people have put in their dues that are not in a lvl 60 guild. Does that mean they should get less than you? Many people choose not to be in a lvl 60 guild. Maybe its for one of the reasons you just mentioned - if I change guilds or my guild folds because the guild leader quits the game, I lose the accumulation of my efforts and just form their own small guilds of dedicated people. The reasons are numerous. I asked the question because I actually had a conversation with a lvl 60 guild leader the other day tauting who uber they were and was actually bragging about having 170k guild status.</p><p>The old saying stands true - I would rather have 1% of the efforts of 100 people than 100% of the rewards of my own efforts. This is the mantra of the guilds these days. They bring people in and have no detriment when those people leave. They dont have to worry about retaining members. /shrug</p>