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DragonMaster2385
04-16-2007, 02:24 PM
<p>OK, I went to <a href="http://www.riseofkunark.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.riseofkunark.com/</a> to see if there was anything posted and I was shocked to see what is there.  It basically says that it belongs to a guild and it is under construction.</p><p>In the www boom, people would buy domain names and "randsom" them off to companies for big bucks.  If I remember correctly, that has actually become illegial.  Do you think that is what has happened here, or do you think there is a legitimate guild called rise of kunark?</p>

Cusashorn
04-16-2007, 02:33 PM
I wouldn't think they'd have anything up yet since they havn't even announced it yet.

Sartredes
04-16-2007, 02:38 PM
Well, I did a guild search on EQ2Players and it didn't turn up a guild named "Rise of Kunark" or anything mentioning Kunark.

DragonMaster2385
04-16-2007, 02:39 PM
<p>Well, I knew nothing would be on it, that is not what the post is about.  I am wondering if someone saw the patent posting and immediatly bought the domain to sell at a later date.</p>

Igu
04-16-2007, 04:14 PM
If SOE had decided on the Rise of Kunark name for the next expansion and did not reserve the domain name, well that is just dumb.

Daarom
04-17-2007, 07:39 AM
<cite>Igu wrote:</cite><blockquote>If SOE had decided on the Rise of Kunark name for the next expansion and did not reserve the domain name, well that is just dumb.</blockquote>Basically they got the Trademark so it is just a letter to the domain owner. The Domain riseofkunark.com has been registered after the trademark. It depends, if SOE decides tu sue the owner they could, if they decide to ask him polite they could, if they decide to pay him a few bucks (what I dont think they would) they could in either case SOE has a legal right on this domain name. Post Scriptum The guy who registered the domain name is either greedy or dumb (I guess both) cause the only thing he is getting from this is a delay for the official website.

Velsha
04-18-2007, 06:38 PM
<p>Registration Information from Whois.Com: Registrant:   =   Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (<a href="http://www.godaddy.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.godaddy.com</a>)   Domain Name: RISEOFKUNARK.COM    Created on: 22-Feb-07    Expires on: 23-Feb-08    Last Updated on:    Domain servers in listed order:    NS1.ASPNIX.COM    NS2.ASPNIX.COM </p><p><span style="color: #ff3300">Edited to remove personal information.  Yes I know it was public info.  =)  Please do not repost it.</span></p>

Chay
04-18-2007, 08:04 PM
Has anyone from SoE stated that the expansion would be called Rise of Kunark? I'd guess that they would have registered some possible names long ago. Since Kunark is a registered trademark though I'm pretty sure if they really wanted the name it would be theirs. But don't quote me... I'm speculating on speculation.

Mirander_1
04-18-2007, 11:21 PM
<cite>Chayna wrote:</cite><blockquote> <b> Has anyone from SoE stated that the expansion would be called Rise of Kunark?</b> I'd guess that they would have registered some possible names long ago. Since Kunark is a registered trademark though I'm pretty sure if they really wanted the name it would be theirs. But don't quote me... I'm speculating on speculation. </blockquote>Nope, just the US Patent and Trademark Office. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Hukklebuk
04-19-2007, 04:08 PM
don't even think domain ganking is legal anymore if someone holds a 'similar' trademark.... not a lawyer, but hey.

LadyRipley
04-26-2007, 03:08 PM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote>Igu wrote: Basically they got the Trademark so it is just a letter to the domain owner. </blockquote>It is not that simple.  SOE can have their lawyers (politely) send a threatening letter to the domain owner, however, if the owner refuses to give it up, SOE would have to go to court to force the owner to give up the name, or if both parties consent, they can undergo WIPO arbitration on the disputed domain name.  SOE would most likely win, but either of the last two methods could take months.

SykeAuttic
05-03-2007, 01:27 PM
<p>Actually all they need to do is contact the registrar and explain the situation.  The most common action at this point is for the registrar to transfer to the domain to SOE once they establish sufficient existance as a business and a relationship to that name.  The best part is that since SOE can prove when the trademark was registered, the individual really has no chance of keeping the domain.</p><p>This is a brief overview of the actual process...but my company has help several businesses over the year reaquire domain addresses that they allowed to lapse into redemption, were unable to transfer from a previous web host or developer, and in a few cases domains that were identical but with a "-" or an "s" that a third party was using to "steal" visits from the companies website.</p><p>Sad that someone thought this was a payday.</p>

Spindle
05-03-2007, 01:53 PM
Also considering that Kunark and Rise of Kunark are properties of SOE, well, /sledgehammer squatter

falcour
05-03-2007, 04:35 PM
<b>well they need to come out with something soon getting bored</b>

Maroger
05-03-2007, 05:13 PM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote>don't even think domain ganking is legal anymore if someone holds a 'similar' trademark.... not a lawyer, but hey. </blockquote> GODADDY is a chinese group I think and you knows laws don't apply in China!!

Ganlu
05-03-2007, 05:30 PM
<cite>Maroger wrote:</cite><blockquote>[email protected] wrote: <blockquote>don't even think domain ganking is legal anymore if someone holds a 'similar' trademark.... not a lawyer, but hey. </blockquote> GODADDY is a chinese group I think and you knows laws don't apply in China!!</blockquote>Uh, GoDaddy is an American company.

Vorlak
05-03-2007, 05:30 PM
<p>Could just tell people of godaddy that if they do not reverse the name sony will nerf the marketing girls bust size.</p><p>i know has nothing to do with the name just wanted to say [Removed for Content]'s! [Removed for Content] SHES STACKED</p>

Galn
05-04-2007, 12:54 AM
<cite>Maroger wrote:</cite><blockquote>[email protected] wrote: <blockquote>don't even think domain ganking is legal anymore if someone holds a 'similar' trademark.... not a lawyer, but hey. </blockquote> GODADDY is a chinese group I think and you knows laws don't apply in China!!</blockquote> Actually, godaddy is in Arizona...

Ogrebe
05-04-2007, 01:55 AM
ya since SOE has the trademark on RoK before the website was created, all they have to do is go to the registart of the name and say they got the trademark and they get the name. The guy could fight it, but at this point there no way he would win.

Kunathar
05-05-2007, 03:50 PM
SOE has control over the domain as of May 5th. I guess it is official now.

Rocc
05-05-2007, 03:59 PM
I just typed a long "legal" response. But in all reality I'm glad. I'm so sick of the army of lawyers soe has and how they turned the game into a court room. I'm glad!

Rocc
05-05-2007, 04:00 PM
Blah you posted that as I was typing. Hope he made em squirm for it.

Guru-guru
05-06-2007, 10:36 AM
Look at the website once again. It is empty<img src="/smilies/385970365b8ed7503b4294502a458efa.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />I am excited. I expect that a summary is announced by a fan Festival period. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm Japanese player on Sebilis server. I'm not good at English.Please permit unskillful English.

Rocc
05-08-2007, 01:56 AM
<p><span style="color: #ff0000"><i>Edited to remove personal information.  Yes I know it was public info.  =)  Please do not repost it.</i></span></p><p> <i>Message edited by Brenlo on 04/24/2007 08:54:13. </i></p><p><b>hmmm.... you could have at least got the date right lol</b></p>

Mirander_1
05-08-2007, 02:12 AM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote>Look at the website once again. It is empty<img src="/smilies/385970365b8ed7503b4294502a458efa.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />I am excited. I expect that a summary is announced by a fan Festival period. </blockquote>Yep, we'll be seeing RoK announced by Fan Faire, at the latest.  Personally though, I'd put my money on RoK being announced in the next month or two, and having Fan Faire bring us a bunch of new info on it.