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OnGaruda
03-24-2007, 09:50 AM
Q_Q some news? when it will be possibleeee???

Eybietie
03-24-2007, 11:55 AM
<cite>Russ2006 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>SoE just keeps [I cannot control my vocabulary] people over. Its not only eu population that ruined this game for me. Rerolling on Naggy is no big deal, its tedious and a bump in the road, but not the biggest challenge. It only takes a eek or two to level 70 with some dedication and friends. </p><p>Its the fact that they do not seem to give a flying [I cannot control my vocabulary] about us. I stuck by this game when they released DoF. A [I cannot control my vocabulary] insult to progression and horrible itemization. KoS had a few nice tweaks, but relic was a disaster. Having relic drop of trash and the best gear in the game drop of an easily 2 groupable zone like labs was [I cannot control my vocabulary]. The first and second nerf of tarinax took a decent challenge and turned it [Removed for Content]. If you take all that bs and try very hard to make it a lot worse, you get EoF. </p><p> But this is all ok with me, I don't mind running through MMiS [Removed for Content] only class set pieces for classes we don't even have in the raid. Raid content in this game has always been gimped and itemization/progression non existant. The bugs, the [I cannot control my vocabulary] quests and camps and the randomness. I like this game and I like playing it. These downsides do not make me quit. I will quit because soe just don't give a [I cannot control my vocabulary] about their customers. We are totally in the dark here. No [I cannot control my vocabulary] word, other than: transfers will come! give me a [I cannot control my vocabulary] date, even if that date is in the middle of November 2019. We all just ant to know where we stand, so we can figure out if it is worth waiting for moves or if we should go do something else. I just want to play on Naggy. reset my pvp stats, take my stupid pvp gear. Just transfer me like I was a damned pve char. I am sick and tired of watching my friends leave this game due to the e population issue. Playing on Darathar pve wise is sure as hell not worth. At 70 there is nothing to do but raid, and if you killed any raid mob in eof it would be a server first on dara. Acctually, tarinax would be a server first... Tarinax.. PvP on darthar is dead. I can get mabe 10-20 fights if I search all day. 95% of the time its not really pvp, its varda vs 3-6 q's which usually isn't fun. Sometimes I will fight groups and sometimes I win, mainly cause people are letting me separate them. But its not really fun in the long run. I do get some solo fights, mainly with delolith, caine and rahael. I really appreciate those fights, and I don't mind losing them. I guess my point is: Thank you Soe for doing [I cannot control my vocabulary] nothing for us. You leave us here to rot, we're slowly about to die. Everyday we see friends leave. For me my friends are the reason i play. I've seen friends leave since I started playing. I don't ant to lose anymore, Give us transfers, and do it now. I am pretty much done with eq2 untill/if we get movelogs. Just please [I cannot control my vocabulary] tell me when its gonna happen, give us a date!</p></blockquote> [email protected] wrote: <blockquote><cite>GalenUk wrote:</cite><blockquote>In reference to the PVP server transfers, the process is not going as fast as I would like it. Scott Hartsman and I have talked about it more than once this week. When I have more information to share, something new that will tell you that the process has advanced, I will share it. Until then you just have to understand that this is not something that is done as easy as flipping a switch, and the people involved are taking the time to eliminate as many potential issues as possible. What we don't want, is to open the transfers and then have something go wrong for the people involved. Our end goal isn't just a better PVP environment for you, but also a smooth transition to the new environment. <hr />---- Craig "Grimwell" Dalrymple EQ2 Community Manager Sony Online Entertainment </blockquote><p> A PM like this makes me feel like canceling sub and never return.</p><p>More than once? Ok, so u speak twice a week?! U call yourselfs pros?!</p><p>I truely cannot believe u in no way are able to put a timeframe on this issue!! An ETA is all we ask for and the stuff needed to be corrected is far from being the entire game. As from what it seems, You have been working on making a solution since X-mas and still You don't have any clue on when to be done, even though there's a (apperently not entirely) working service to transfer us off this reckid server.</p><p>The server is completely ruined and there's basicly no fun left.</p><p>Impressive I must say :/ I'm gonna wait till April, if nothing shows I'm gonna be outa here! This is getting too much <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>- Eeling, Guild leader of HoX, friend of Varda, friend of Galen's, target for Purity and the rest of Q, also fed up about SOE's complete lack of professionality. [I cannot control my vocabulary]! Sry....</p></blockquote>

zorros
03-24-2007, 12:43 PM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote><cite>Russ2006 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>SoE just keeps [I cannot control my vocabulary] people over. Its not only eu population that ruined this game for me. Rerolling on Naggy is no big deal, its tedious and a bump in the road, but not the biggest challenge. It only takes a eek or two to level 70 with some dedication and friends. </p><p>Its the fact that they do not seem to give a flying [I cannot control my vocabulary] about us. I stuck by this game when they released DoF. A [I cannot control my vocabulary] insult to progression and horrible itemization. KoS had a few nice tweaks, but relic was a disaster. Having relic drop of trash and the best gear in the game drop of an easily 2 groupable zone like labs was [I cannot control my vocabulary]. The first and second nerf of tarinax took a decent challenge and turned it [Removed for Content]. If you take all that bs and try very hard to make it a lot worse, you get EoF. </p><p> But this is all ok with me, I don't mind running through MMiS [Removed for Content] only class set pieces for classes we don't even have in the raid. Raid content in this game has always been gimped and itemization/progression non existant. The bugs, the [I cannot control my vocabulary] quests and camps and the randomness. I like this game and I like playing it. These downsides do not make me quit. I will quit because soe just don't give a [I cannot control my vocabulary] about their customers. We are totally in the dark here. No [I cannot control my vocabulary] word, other than: transfers will come! give me a [I cannot control my vocabulary] date, even if that date is in the middle of November 2019. We all just ant to know where we stand, so we can figure out if it is worth waiting for moves or if we should go do something else. I just want to play on Naggy. reset my pvp stats, take my stupid pvp gear. Just transfer me like I was a damned pve char. I am sick and tired of watching my friends leave this game due to the e population issue. Playing on Darathar pve wise is sure as hell not worth. At 70 there is nothing to do but raid, and if you killed any raid mob in eof it would be a server first on dara. Acctually, tarinax would be a server first... Tarinax.. PvP on darthar is dead. I can get mabe 10-20 fights if I search all day. 95% of the time its not really pvp, its varda vs 3-6 q's which usually isn't fun. Sometimes I will fight groups and sometimes I win, mainly cause people are letting me separate them. But its not really fun in the long run. I do get some solo fights, mainly with delolith, caine and rahael. I really appreciate those fights, and I don't mind losing them. I guess my point is: Thank you Soe for doing [I cannot control my vocabulary] nothing for us. You leave us here to rot, we're slowly about to die. Everyday we see friends leave. For me my friends are the reason i play. I've seen friends leave since I started playing. I don't ant to lose anymore, Give us transfers, and do it now. I am pretty much done with eq2 untill/if we get movelogs. Just please [I cannot control my vocabulary] tell me when its gonna happen, give us a date!</p></blockquote> [email protected] wrote: <blockquote><cite>GalenUk wrote:</cite><blockquote>In reference to the PVP server transfers, the process is not going as fast as I would like it. Scott Hartsman and I have talked about it more than once this week. When I have more information to share, something new that will tell you that the process has advanced, I will share it. Until then you just have to understand that this is not something that is done as easy as flipping a switch, and the people involved are taking the time to eliminate as many potential issues as possible. What we don't want, is to open the transfers and then have something go wrong for the people involved. Our end goal isn't just a better PVP environment for you, but also a smooth transition to the new environment. <hr />---- Craig "Grimwell" Dalrymple EQ2 Community Manager Sony Online Entertainment </blockquote><p> A PM like this makes me feel like canceling sub and never return.</p><p>More than once? Ok, so u speak twice a week?! U call yourselfs pros?!</p><p>I truely cannot believe u in no way are able to put a timeframe on this issue!! An ETA is all we ask for and the stuff needed to be corrected is far from being the entire game. As from what it seems, You have been working on making a solution since X-mas and still You don't have any clue on when to be done, even though there's a (apperently not entirely) working service to transfer us off this reckid server.</p><p>The server is completely ruined and there's basicly no fun left.</p><p>Impressive I must say :/ I'm gonna wait till April, if nothing shows I'm gonna be outa here! This is getting too much <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>- Eeling, Guild leader of HoX, friend of Varda, friend of Galen's, target for Purity and the rest of Q, also fed up about SOE's complete lack of professionality. [I cannot control my vocabulary]! Sry....</p></blockquote></blockquote><p> Summary of above post.</p><p><b><i><u><span style="font-size: xx-large">NO NEWS</span></u></i></b></p>

pharacyde
03-24-2007, 03:14 PM
I am petitioning every day for info. No news.

Dimgl
03-24-2007, 03:27 PM
<span style="color: #00cc99">This topic is reaching almost riotous levels of outrage in the general public it seems. I imagine some kind of update, if even just an apology has to be forthcoming shortly. What's a crying shame is that half of the information going around on the "North American" forums is translated/taken from International forums. They know more about our PVP servers than we do? I have a friend who just wants to split his characters between two accounts, but moving account to account is disabled alongside the server->server transfers at the moment. Both characters levelled up in PVP, same server, same account owner... Can't move right now, and it frustrates him endlessly. Though right now he is halfway across the world on a trip, but I imagine he'll be [Removed for Content] to find out that in ten days of vacation the problem wasn't even mentioned.... When was the last time we had a real non-translated update on this issue anyway? </span>

Eybietie
03-24-2007, 11:26 PM
<p><span style="color: #ff9900">"<i><b>The bugs, the [I cannot control my vocabulary] quests and camps and the randomness. I like this game and I like playing it. These downsides do not make me quit. I will quit because soe just don't give a [I cannot control my vocabulary] about their customers. <u>We are totally in the dark here</u>. No [I cannot control my vocabulary] word, other than: transfers will come! <u><span style="font-size: x-small">give me a [I cannot control my vocabulary] date, even if that date is in the middle of November 2019. We all just ant to know where we stand, so we can figure out if it is worth waiting for moves or if we should go do something else.</span></u></b></i> "</span> </p><p><span style="color: #ffff00">that is well written. we <b>do</b> know now that things didn´t turn out easy like soe expected ( somehow... lol ) - we want a [Removed for Content] eta. no soon. no sorry [Removed for Content] omg etc ^^</span></p>

EQ2Playa432
03-25-2007, 12:59 AM
This has officially gone from 'getting ridiculous' to 'utterly stupid and unprofessional'

Eybietie
03-25-2007, 07:42 AM
<p><span style="color: #ffff00">who said we are professionals? just sick and tired of this issue.</span></p>

Armondpb
03-25-2007, 10:18 AM
<p>I came into pvp a little after feb.. So, Whats up with this transfer? are they just letting you for it for free? or murgeing? or just that you will be able to pay the 50dollar fee to trans?</p><p>/confused.</p><p>I had to leave ven cause it was so dull... Good people though....</p>

TSall
03-25-2007, 02:03 PM
<div align="center"><span style="font-size: xx-large; color: #ff3300; font-family: terminal,monaco">*BUMP*</span><div align="center"><img src="/smilies/2e207fad049d4d292f60607f80f05768.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div><hr /> </div>

EQ2Playa432
03-25-2007, 02:28 PM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote><p><span style="color: #ffff00">who said we are professionals? just sick and tired of this issue.</span></p></blockquote>I'm talking about SOE here.

Eybietie
03-25-2007, 02:50 PM
<span style="color: #ffff00">oh missread then - so it´s time to pop my <i>english is not my first language</i> excuse <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></span>

Kaleyen
03-25-2007, 06:27 PM
I have that excuse macro'd.

Eybietie
03-25-2007, 07:40 PM
<span style="color: #ffff00"> ^^ next to the </span><span style="color: #ffcc00"><i>*what did you expect anyways? i´m a paladin geez..* </i></span><span style="color: #ffff00">macro?</span>

Kaleyen
03-25-2007, 08:00 PM
Nah, I juse use my reflective armor if I'm really in a bind.

Eybietie
03-26-2007, 06:16 AM
<span style="color: #ffff00">haha - you remember the shiny fabled plate set from t5? it was completely in silver. all shiny and stuff ^^ our paladin was so posing of with it all the time everywhere ... ^^</span>

OnGaruda
03-26-2007, 06:29 AM
SOE, i'm hating u -.-

DarkRenown
03-26-2007, 07:50 AM
<p>OK, now I suck at PvP, so bein stuck on a very low pop PvP server is a boon for me, as I can harvest, PvE etc in peace and quiet.</p><p>We also have a nice little FP alliance who can get some Raid practice in as well.</p><p>So it's all rosy.</p><p>Well no, not really. This situation is beyond a joke, and is getting inculting, even for me.</p><p>The fact that they are taking the time to PM a response to selected people just makes the rest of us feel worthless. Wow, thanks SOE. I am glad you have decided to treat your customers with respect. Or not.</p><p>What we want is simple, </p><p>Regular communication on progess - even if it is a simple one liner ETA - so that we know whether or not we should even bother to carry on playing. At the moment, if these server transfers don;t happen soon, then there will be alot more cancellations. Updates to EVERYONE, not PMs, tell ALL of your customers. Issue list, if you are having problems, then put them up and let us know what you're having to do. </p><p>Most of all though, we want some respect. I never thought I would say this, as I am by far the laziest person I know, but I am close to cancelling my account, and leaving all SOE products (including SWG, Vanguard etc) and never taking them up again. That is the depth of my feeling that SOE are treating it's EU customers unfairly and with a total lack of respect.</p><p>Nice one SOE.</p>

Spyderbite
03-26-2007, 08:10 AM
Kudos to the reply above me.. it was worded much more maturely (albeit.. still a bit whiney) than the OP. But, it cited specific concerns and requested information. Vs. Demands and insults. Now.. If I were a developer at Sony.. I wouldn't have even made it past the OP. But, then again.. I don't respond well to profanity, accusations and insults. I'm just weird like that I suppose. Sony should just launch the transfers with today's sever maintenance and tack a disclaimer to it.. "We're not responsible for any lost items and/or deleted characters as this system is not yet fully functional. But, due to the demands made on the forums we've chosen to let you roll the dice on your characters". Then they can just wipe their hands of the situation and turn their backs on these temper tantrum threads. Or... those who are really serious about moving to another more active PvP server.. can just assume an ETA is going to take place down the road and develop a new character on the server they wish to play on in the meantime. If the transfers go live sooner.. great.. scrap the new character or keep it as an alt. If it doesn't happen for months or at all for that matter, you've already leveled up and become part of the community on the new server. You have choices. To sit here and whine is not a very productive choice. Sheesh.. be glad somebody like me isn't in charge of these things. With my low tolerance for such forum behavior, I'd have pulled the plug on the low populated servers and just dropped the Transfer system project all together.

CKash
03-26-2007, 10:06 AM
<p>Since you are from Venekor 'spyderbite' you have no involvment in this issue or any idea what its like from our end. I have 2 toons on nagafen, 48 and 49. I did not just sit around and whine and yet im still really [Removed for Content] off. close to a month ago we were told we would be kept updated. that the service worked and that itll be ''soon'' (ive never felt anger at a single word before i heard 'soon'<img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />. I have a role in the nagafen server, i have friends and i enjoy it to a certain degree. however having invested the better part of a year in my other characters i want to actually play them. speaking as one of the people who have done what you say we should i know that im still really [Removed for Content] off. </p><p>As was said, its simply a matter of respect. when the person (or people) who pay me for a service ask me how long it will take i tell them. if i didnt theyd tell me to get lost. should this not be the same for SoE? are we asking for an instant fix? no. is it really so unreasonable to ask for an estimated time? sinse im [Removed for Content] paying for it it [Removed for Content] well shouldnt be! </p><p>Enough whining. without knowledge of how it feels dont bother comenting. i dont tell sick people they should stop whining cause theyll heal, i dont know how they feel. kindly do the same.</p>

Sinistria
03-26-2007, 10:41 AM
soon /shivers soooon /shivers more soooooooon /shivers badly SOOOOOOON /screams in terror the longer i think about it, the more i come to: soooooooooonY

Kaleyen
03-26-2007, 11:37 AM
WTB transfer update!

pharacyde
03-26-2007, 12:04 PM
it has become utterly stupid and unprofessional. Every way you try to get an answer you get the same answers. It doesn't matter if you use /petition or even the live chat option or call them on the phone, even mails do get returned with the same crap. The crap that is, you will know more soon. And then when you try to be a bit more aggressive about it you get a warning about getting banned if you keep bugging them ... GG The conclusion out of this should be that SoE just doesn't care about their costumers.

Valdar
03-26-2007, 12:47 PM
<p>SOE adheres to the old adage that ignorance is bliss.</p>

CresentBlade
03-26-2007, 12:48 PM
<cite>pharacyde wrote:</cite><blockquote>it has become utterly stupid and unprofessional. Every way you try to get an answer you get the same answers. It doesn't matter if you use /petition or even the live chat option or call them on the phone, even mails do get returned with the same crap. The crap that is, you will know more soon. And then when you try to be a bit more aggressive about it you get a warning about getting banned if you keep bugging them ... GG The conclusion out of this should be that SoE just doesn't care about their costumers. </blockquote>You forgot to mention you get zerged by all the Fanboys too. I agree with your post<img src="/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

The_Real_Ohno
03-26-2007, 01:55 PM
<p>Sooooooooooo..... any update SoE?</p>

Sinistria
03-27-2007, 04:22 AM
i bet these grey-zergs are all SOE-workers. they try to gank people so long until they leave the game and then there is no reason to do a /movelog anymore

pharacyde
03-27-2007, 08:32 AM
There aren't any freeps left on Darathar, maybe just ONE group of ratpack running around. Well maybe some HoX now and than and some random lost soul. But the chance to see any freep on Darathar is like 1 freep every week if you are lucky. I have been questing quite alot and I have been leveling my templar quite alot last weeks and well last week I have had 2 encounters with Ratpack and that was my PVP of the week. This is how SAD the MMO aspect is of Darathar. On top of that, everything has been taken of the broken as a pre-emptive move for the transfers. - can't find any adornements - drinks are very expensive and hard to find - invis totems are hard to find - almost no mastercrafted/legendary gear and so on ... So how long will we have to keep playing on Darathar ?

OnGaruda
03-27-2007, 11:43 AM
<cite>pharacyde wrote:</cite><blockquote>There aren't any freeps left on Darathar, maybe just ONE group of ratpack running around. Well maybe some HoX now and than and some random lost soul. But the chance to see any freep on Darathar is like 1 freep every week if you are lucky. I have been questing quite alot and I have been leveling my templar quite alot last weeks and well last week I have had 2 encounters with Ratpack and that was my PVP of the week. This is how SAD the MMO aspect is of Darathar. On top of that, everything has been taken of the broken as a pre-emptive move for the transfers. - can't find any adornements - drinks are very expensive and hard to find - invis totems are hard to find - almost no mastercrafted/legendary gear and so on ... So how long will we have to keep playing on Darathar ? </blockquote>SOE, we pay for a Good product...u MUST say SOMETHING. IN ITALIAN: SOE TI SI DA UNA SMAIALATA DI VADRINI!! SAREBBE IL CASO CHE TU CI FACESSI SAPERE QUALCOSA -.-

Kaleyen
03-27-2007, 11:46 AM
Yeah, what the guy above me said!

Sinistria
03-27-2007, 11:48 AM
/agree

sirfrenchalot
03-27-2007, 05:46 PM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote>Kudos to the reply above me.. it was worded much more maturely (albeit.. still a bit whiney) than the OP. But, it cited specific concerns and requested information. Vs. Demands and insults. Now.. If I were a developer at Sony.. I wouldn't have even made it past the OP. But, then again.. I don't respond well to profanity, accusations and insults. I'm just weird like that I suppose. Sony should just launch the transfers with today's sever maintenance and tack a disclaimer to it.. "We're not responsible for any lost items and/or deleted characters as this system is not yet fully functional. But, due to the demands made on the forums we've chosen to let you roll the dice on your characters". Then they can just wipe their hands of the situation and turn their backs on these temper tantrum threads. Or... those who are really serious about moving to another more active PvP server.. can just assume an ETA is going to take place down the road and develop a new character on the server they wish to play on in the meantime. If the transfers go live sooner.. great.. scrap the new character or keep it as an alt. If it doesn't happen for months or at all for that matter, you've already leveled up and become part of the community on the new server. You have choices. To sit here and whine is not a very productive choice. Sheesh.. be glad somebody like me isn't in charge of these things. With my low tolerance for such forum behavior, I'd have pulled the plug on the low populated servers and just dropped the Transfer system project all together. </blockquote><p>I really felt compelled to reply to you because I don't think you understand the extant of people frustration right now.</p><p>There is a problem with population on the EU servers. It is quite an improtant issue for a MMO type game as players can not get the gaming experience they expect to find when playing such the game. It is very hard currently to even find a group to do anything and finding some pvp action is even worse. I can harvest a whole weekend at the same place and only fight one FP (btw thanks Suo that made my day lol I thought "wow! there are still fps arround!!!!"<img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.</p><p>Now when you pay a subscription for a game and effectively pay for the experience of playing with other people and can barely get this from the service provided, I do think you are allowed to express your concerns and expect a change in the sittuation. It took a long time, but finally action have started to be taken and a movelog will be available soon. And this is from an official post that was posted a month ago.</p><p>I believe what really upsets the players is not so much not being able to transfer characters yet, but rather not hearing any updates about it. It is very concievable for most of us that such changes will take time to implement but that should not stop us from receiving updates on the sittuation as well as information regarding what will be possible. The very first question that arose was in regard to guilds, what will happen to them... Although this seems like a critical issue because of the time people invested in guilds and it will as well decide whether people will move or not, this question remains unanswered.</p><p>We are not asking for transfers to be done this minute, but rather asking for information. And as customers I don't think we should be kept in the dark regarding what will happen to our characters and therefore the very essence of the product we pay for each months.</p><p>I haven't sat here and whine either, I have rerolled and haven't find very enjoyable losing 70 levels and the time it too me to get there, I have tried to fight for my server, tried to unite people so every one could get to know each other better to compensate for the lack of population. But there is only that much a player can do and after a while it isn't a game anymore and the fun is gone.</p><p>The fact is, my favourite character in on Darathar and I just don't have what it takes to let him rot there because of population issue. I invested a lot of time in him and "just reroll' is simply not an option.</p><p>And in reference to a post you made on a locked thread, you wouldn't have to cancel my account, I already did it for you because all the unrest created by this sittuation simply took the fun out of the game and I am simply not very keen on paying for a service I do not actually get.</p><p>I hope this clarified the sittuation and that you will understand people on low population server are getting more and more frustrated, to a point we actually think we are being consciouly kept in the dark about what is to be done and estimated available date to avoid losing money before the changes are made as it may take a while. Not informing people keeps them hoping it will happen the next day so they will continue their subscription. Give a date that would be say 2 months down the line (realistically), and you have massive cancellation during two months untill the update is released.</p><p>But do not give information about progress done and people who would have been willing to wait like me start being very annoyed, wondering if anything is done at all and end up cancelling anyways....</p><p>khep</p><p>:EDIT: you'll have to excuse typos and approximate wording at times.... I am very tired and english isn't my mother tongue...</p>

OnGaruda
03-28-2007, 05:51 AM
do something OMG

Gondwana
04-03-2007, 03:55 AM
Well said Khep

tass
04-06-2007, 01:52 PM
lol got news for u. Its the same thing on the populated servers if u aernt a certain level and are on the wrong side. Which basically is the overpopulated side.