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CresentBlade
03-22-2007, 11:54 PM
<p>I was a 46 monk and couldnt [I cannot control my vocabulary] beat a 47 Brusier. Me and another monk lost to a [I cannot control my vocabulary] Shadowknight who was only 43...2 [I cannot control my vocabulary] monks loseing to a SK but hey they are not overpowered, my [I cannot control my vocabulary] [I cannot control my vocabulary] they arent. If the wusses arent HTing then they got a cheesy [I cannot control my vocabulary] lifetap that drains more then any Necro I have ever seen.</p><p>Sony like Freeport more then Qeynos and always has.</p><p>Shadowknight > Paladin</p><p>Brusier > Monk</p><p>Wizard = Wizard</p><p>Warlock = Warlock</p><p>Inquis > Templar</p><p>Defiler = Mystic</p><p>Ranger = Assassin</p><p>Brigand = Swashy</p><p>Blah Blah Blah even Freeports newbie zones have more guards. No wonder so many people are seeking other games now, [I cannot control my vocabulary] customer service as seen by the way Sony is ignoring so many about server moves. And many other things. This game has so many [I cannot control my vocabulary] bugs and exploiting now its not even funny and the people who speak up about others cheating or sploiting get in trouble while the mother [I cannot control my vocabulary] doing all the cheating are left alone.</p><p>Dont even talk to me about gear the lowest pieces I have are adorned MC doesnt matter, if your not playing the right class your screwed. The current top classes are:</p><p>Scouts (but being given a run for their money)</p><p>ShadowKnights</p><p>Druids</p><p>If you dont play one of these classes then your screwed, so many of these are so over powered they could run around only covered in [I cannot control my vocabulary] and still own all. Enough is enough starting to think I will be joining the ranks of those leaving. And ya I am [Removed for Content] while posting and could give a [I cannot control my vocabulary] if you care about what I am posting or not.</p>

Mildavyn
03-23-2007, 12:04 AM
<p>/yawn</p><p>EDIT: IFL2P</p>

ZUES
03-23-2007, 12:06 AM
What I'm tired of is everyone from pvp complaining about being tired of something. Of ALL the servers, you guys complain the most. Why is that? I'm not attacking anyone, I'm just tired of hearing it. /shrug

DynamicPerforman
03-23-2007, 12:46 AM
I'm a dreadnaught monk, my wife is a dreadnaught troubadour... to give you some background. <ul><li>You didn't list the mage classes, where conj > necro and illusionist >>>>> coercer.</li><li>Also, in a more rock-paper-scissors enviroment, you shouldn't compare a class against its direct opposite, but instead against every other class.</li></ul>Are you saying you cannot beat bruisers?  I kill them all the time.   I'm sorry to say it, but your only level 46.  the 50's really perk up our 1v1 versus bruisers.  Also, your probably using the wrong stance. <ul><li><u><b>A good bruiser will try the following strategy: Burst dps, mez/fear, burst dps.</b></u></li><li>You need to break this up. Stick to defensive stance until they try to fear you. I'm fairly certain the brawler fear is mental based, so defensive will increase your chance to resist.  Its always worked for me.</li><li>As soon as that happens, hit a stun switch to offensive and barrel into them. Try and keep behind them and burn as many CA as you can into him. Try to finish off with a stun so you have time to switch back to defensive.  </li><li>Throw your own fear at the bruiser, it will get resisted but while your casting move back. Hit your ranged and get a few cheap shots in while the bruiser is moving towards you.  He will use this chance to heal, but theres not much you can do to change this.</li><li>Your CA will be up faster than his. Assumming your fear landed, switch back to offensive and go in for the kill. Otherwise try to lead with a stun. </li></ul>Assuming your equally geared you should be able to kill the bruiser by your 2nd or 3rd barrage. Make sure your always facing your opponent so your parry can absorb as many blows as possible. <ul><li><u><b>Shadowknights are one of my worst matchups, along with furys.</b></u></li><li>You need to use your enviroment to your advantage.  Use corners to deny them line of sight.  Use cliffs for extra damage and interrupt.</li><li>You will not kill them while they have power. You don't have enough stuns to keep them from healing. You will need to find a way to drain them of their power.  In the case of SK sprint will work well, as yours is more effiencient for distance than theirs.  For fury's...  If they somehow snuck up on you thats it, you lose.  Unless you get to a zoneline your done for.  But then again, you deserve to die for letting a priest sneak up on you.  If you sneak up on them, try to punt them into groups of mobs.  You might be unable to hurt them, but furys can be rooted *evil grin* and our sprint + teleport ability allows us to keep up with them enough to let the mobs finish them off.  Mob stuns ignore pvp immunity, and should allow you to take them out.</li><li><u><b>Another bad matchup is the brigand or swashbuckler</b></u></li><li>Tsunami against a brigand is the I WIN button... if you can get it off.  A good swashbuckler will make short work of you if you use it on them.</li><li>For a swashy you need to minimize your avoidence.  Offensive stance is the best way to fight swashys. and avoid using any attacks that are likely to be avoided.</li></ul>

Splintered
03-23-2007, 12:53 AM
<cite>DynamicPerformance wrote:</cite><blockquote>I'm a dreadnaught monk, my wife is a dreadnaught troubadour... to give you some background.<ul><li>You didn't list the mage classes, where conj > necro and illusionist >>>>> coercer.</li><li>Also, in a more rock-paper-scissors enviroment, you shouldn't compare a class against its direct opposite, but instead against every other class.</li></ul>Are you saying you cannot beat bruisers?  I kill them all the time.   I'm sorry to say it, but your only level 46.  the 50's really perk up our 1v1 versus bruisers.  Also, your probably using the wrong stance.<ul><li><u><b>A good bruiser will try the following strategy: Burst dps, mez/fear, burst dps.</b></u></li><li>You need to break this up. Stick to defensive stance until they try to fear you. I'm fairly certain the brawler fear is mental based, so defensive will increase your chance to resist.  Its always worked for me.</li><li>As soon as that happens, hit a stun switch to offensive and barrel into them. Try and keep behind them and burn as many CA as you can into him. Try to finish off with a stun so you have time to switch back to defensive.  </li><li>Throw your own fear at the bruiser, it will get resisted but while your casting move back. Hit your ranged and get a few cheap shots in while the bruiser is moving towards you.  He will use this chance to heal, but theres not much you can do to change this.</li><li>Your CA will be up faster than his. Assumming your fear landed, switch back to offensive and go in for the kill. Otherwise try to lead with a stun. </li></ul>Assuming your equally geared you should be able to kill the bruiser by your 2nd or 3rd barrage. Make sure your always facing your opponent so your parry can absorb as many blows as possible.<ul><li><u><b>Shadowknights are one of my worst matchups, along with druids.</b></u></li></ul></blockquote>heheh, thats a good strategy for fighting bruisers <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.. as with my bruiser when I see a monk solo I switch offensive and go in a pummel. Generally by the time I have finished my burst dps they are either dead or very close to it. Though later on monks get some more abilities that would help them fight bruisers, i.e. tsunami ect..

Taldier
03-23-2007, 12:56 AM
<p>hmm...so you say sony favors freeport <img src="/smilies/385970365b8ed7503b4294502a458efa.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> ehh.............</p><p>sorry I just laughed so hard I literally fell out of my chair...<img src="/smilies/ed515dbff23a0ee3241dcc0a601c9ed6.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>qeynos = sonyeq</p>

DynamicPerforman
03-23-2007, 01:00 AM
The whole bruiser/monk matchup is decided by who can get the most offensive stance v offensive stance damage in, and who can control the flow of the fight.  In defensive, I have 65% avoidence and 50% mit. So even the best bruisers do little damage to me.  Imagine your playing a fighting game and the bruiser has started his combo, you can block it, or try to break it and start your own, but fighting back at that point will do more harm than good.<ul><li>I generally try to keep my distance at slightly between melee and sonic fist range.  where my bandioler can be used between stuns to [Removed for Content] off the bruiser.  An angry bruiser makes mistakes, like forgetting to switch to defensive after he's done with his barrage.</li></ul>

CresentBlade
03-23-2007, 01:20 AM
<cite>Taldier wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>hmm...so you say sony favors freeport <img src="/smilies/385970365b8ed7503b4294502a458efa.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> ehh.............</p><p>sorry I just laughed so hard I literally fell out of my chair...<img src="/smilies/ed515dbff23a0ee3241dcc0a601c9ed6.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>qeynos = sonyeq</p></blockquote>Oh ya silly me this makes everything all right and I must be wrong....Your a idiot if this is you point that contests all the real facts. Bravo! Hopefully the fall from the chair knocked some sense into you.

CresentBlade
03-23-2007, 01:22 AM
<cite>ZUES wrote:</cite><blockquote>What I'm tired of is everyone from pvp complaining about being tired of something. Of ALL the servers, you guys complain the most. Why is that? I'm not attacking anyone, I'm just tired of hearing it. /shrug</blockquote> Ya your so tired of it but yet you post here COMPLAINING about how tired you are of other people complaining... S T F U thanks.

CresentBlade
03-23-2007, 01:23 AM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote><p>/yawn</p><p>EDIT: IFL2P</p></blockquote>Wow you are special you had to do a edit on one word? [Removed for Content]

Wytie
03-23-2007, 01:52 AM
OP Cry more<span style="font-size: xx-small"> <i>NooB</i></span>  how about a exile Swash could kill all 3 of you. Get some resistance you get 60%  resist in Disease then you'll laugh at a SK till then ALL SK's will laugh at you<i> <span style="font-size: xx-small">noob!</span></i>

Taldier
03-23-2007, 02:21 AM
Gildorath wrote: <blockquote><p>Oh ya silly me this makes everything all right and I must be wrong....Your a idiot if this is you point that contests all the real facts. Bravo! Hopefully the fall from the chair knocked some sense into you.</p></blockquote><p>Sorry the posts above me just seemed so constructive that I couldn't help myself.  Anyway if you really want to go into it...</p><p>you mentioned that the freeport newb zones have more guards... however two of them can be accessed directly from cl, and the other two can be accessed directly through those two.</p><p>If we look at the q newb zones, peatbog is easy to get into, and to get to the caves you have to go through two other zones.  The other q newb zones however can only be accessed by going through qeynos itself.</p><p>Now on to ant and cl</p><p>in ant there is an EPIC guard at the docks...in cl there is no guard</p><p>in ant there are two main gates into the city proper ...in cl there is one</p><p>in ant there are no freep guards anywhere...in cl there are q guards north of the nomad camps</p><p>in ant there is a cabin that freeps can only enter by pulling the guard...in cl there is xr which is open and allows q to walk right into it</p><p>in ant there are numerous guarded castles and towers...in cl nothing</p><p>the guards at nq gate have been rearranged repeatedly due to complaints from q guard huggers...low lvl q can still walk right passed the ones at wfp gate</p><p>Oh yeah we're just warming up, I fixed your partial class listing and took out the neutral classes</p><p>Fp              Q</p><p>Shadowknight > Paladin</p><p>Brusier = Monk</p><p>Inquis > Templar</p><p>Defiler = Mystic</p><p>Assassin < Ranger</p><p>Brigand < Swashy</p><p>Necro < Conj</p><p>Coercer < Illusionist</p><p> did you ever watch the opening video for the game...it looks like a [I cannot control my vocabulary] qeynos recruitment video</p><p>And of course there's EoF</p><p>Qs get a second city, they get a new race with the ability to fly and become temporarily impossible to target (which was of course unable to betray until recently).</p><p>Once again qeynos = sonyeq</p><p>Heck I didnt even go into specifics...</p><p>am I complaining, NO, but the next time you want to complain about sony favoring freeport you should shove your thumb up your [I cannot control my vocabulary] and [I cannot control my vocabulary].  Im tired of the [I cannot control my vocabulary] people with the least right to complain coming on here and [I cannot control my vocabulary] all day long.</p><p>As for class imbalances...yes rogues, druids, and sk's seem to have somewhat of an advantage, but its certainly not an unsurmontable one, they simply take slightly less skill to get the same results as other classes.</p><p>The only intelligent statements you made are mentioning the problems of bug exploition and server movelogs.  Neither of which has anything to do with your post's supposed topic.  Hopefully they will both be solved shortly, getting tired of hearing <a href="http://soe-ing.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/soe_ing.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=16310&p_created=1146608838&p_sid=3yPwetvi&p_accessibility=&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPSZwX3NvcnRfYnk9JnBfZ3JpZHNvcnQ9JnBfc m93X2NudD0yMjUyJnBfcHJvZHM9JnBfY2F0cz0mcF9wdj0mcF9 jdj0mcF9zZWFyY2hfdHlwZT1hbnN3ZXJzLnNlYXJjaF9ubCZwX 3BhZ2U9MQ**&p_li=&p_topview=1" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">soon(tm).</a> </p>

CresentBlade
03-23-2007, 03:15 AM
<cite>Taldier wrote:</cite><blockquote>Gildorath wrote: <blockquote><p>Oh ya silly me this makes everything all right and I must be wrong....Your a idiot if this is you point that contests all the real facts. Bravo! Hopefully the fall from the chair knocked some sense into you.</p></blockquote><p>Sorry the posts above me just seemed so constructive that I couldn't help myself.  Anyway if you really want to go into it...</p><p>you mentioned that the freeport newb zones have more guards... however two of them can be accessed directly from cl, and the other two can be accessed directly through those two.</p><p>If we look at the q newb zones, peatbog is easy to get into, and to get to the caves you have to go through two other zones.  The other q newb zones however can only be accessed by going through qeynos itself.</p><p><span style="color: #6666ff">The zones that have the newbie armor quests are WHAT? HMMMM? Lets see the Caves 1 fooking guard and then The Ruins how many guards? How many freaking KOS militia members? Ya thats what I thought Freeport got it sickenly easy!</span></p><p>Now on to ant and cl</p><p>in ant there is an EPIC guard at the docks...in cl there is no guard</p><p><span style="color: #6699ff">There are guards all over the Xroads and at all the city entrances cept GY, and for the longest time Ant guards were total ^ crap while the whole time FP had ^^^ so cry me a river.</span></p><p>in ant there are two main gates into the city proper ...in cl there is one</p><p><span style="color: #6699ff">Mean you as Freeport have more access into our city then we do into yours, thanks for pointing that out.</span></p><p>in ant there are no freep guards anywhere...in cl there are q guards north of the nomad camps</p><p><span style="color: #6699ff">THEY ARE NOT GUARDS NOT GUARDS NOT GUARDS and these NPCs you have to be standing on top of to aggro so please try again.</span></p><p>in ant there is a cabin that freeps can only enter by pulling the guard...in cl there is xr which is open and allows q to walk right into it</p><p><span style="color: #6666ff">You smoking crack right? Walk right into the Xroads are you stupid? Wait Nvm you already answered that...oh poor baby 2 guards at a Inn that hardly anyone every goes to or what 14+ ^^^ guards at the crossroads where Freeport hides and cowers and plays hump the guards. You also have a title merchant at crossroads that Qeynos doesnt get.</span></p><p>in ant there are numerous guarded castles and towers...in cl nothing</p><p><span style="color: #6699ff">Ya the only things at these places are the guards and the location itself. These are not even remotely hot spots or worth even going to. Only the sadly guarded Inn with the mender is worth a dam place to go and its most of the time empty. ANd the guards at Oracle Tower used to help Freeport all the time.</span></p><p>the guards at nq gate have been rearranged repeatedly due to complaints from q guard huggers...low lvl q can still walk right passed the ones at wfp gate</p><p><span style="color: #6666ff">Qeynos guards sucked for almost what 2 years, please once again dont even go there and walk right pass WFG ya guess you never played Qeynos before and tried that cause it DOESNT work like that. We zone into your city your guards are right on top of the door. If you zone into Qeynos the guards are set back a ways....WHAT? WHAT NOW?</span></p><p>Oh yeah we're just warming up, I fixed your partial class listing and took out the neutral classes</p><p>Fp              Q</p><p>Shadowknight > Paladin</p><p>Brusier = Monk</p><p>Inquis > Templar</p><p>Defiler = Mystic</p><p>Assassin < Ranger <span style="color: #6633ff">Same thing your defending Freeport so trying to pick the Qeynos ones I had these as equal also but in your desperate need to prove me wrong you will say anything.</span></p><p>Brigand < Swashy<span style="color: #6633ff"> They are both super over powered and your just saying Swashy becuase your defending Freeport where as I said they were equal nice try though.</span></p><p>Necro < Conj <span style="color: #6666ff">In the beginning of the game Conjur were bad [Removed for Content] now they have been nerfed to nothing Necros own Conjur now not to mention Necros can heal themselves and their pets where as Conjur can only heal pets...ya hmmm wonder which is better on Pvp? Necro!</span></p><p>Coercer < Illusionist</p><p> did you ever watch the opening video for the game...it looks like a [I cannot control my vocabulary] qeynos recruitment video</p><p>And of course there's EoF <span style="color: #6666ff">And of course FAE can betray now even though they said they would not be able to and next expansion is a evil race and area. They put this one out first because FP outnumbered Qeynos and by making it a good race that couldnt betray it helped to balance the teams out...of course now they can betray it all swings back to Freeport team, grats.</span></p><p>Qs get a second city, they get a new race with the ability to fly and become temporarily impossible to target (which was of course unable to betray until recently). <span style="color: #6699ff">This is not a Qeynos city you can walk right past the gaurds and they do nothing, if anything its a neutral city, now 75% of the FAE are betraying hmmmm wonder why some many people betray to Freeport must be because it has it so bad. How can you not target them? TAB OMG targeted /bow thanks </span></p><p>Once again qeynos = sonyeq</p><p><span style="color: #6666ff">Oh wow this was discovered in EQ1 OMG [Removed for Content] does this have to do with anything. Sony named a city after itself ooooooo AHHHHH ooooooo what kind of stupid defense is this?</span></p><p>Heck I didnt even go into specifics...</p><p><span style="color: #6666ff">Maybe you should have or maybe you knew you couldnt cause I am right</span></p><p>am I complaining, NO, but the next time you want to complain about sony favoring freeport you should shove your thumb up your [I cannot control my vocabulary] and [I cannot control my vocabulary].  Im tired of the [I cannot control my vocabulary] people with the least right to complain coming on here and [I cannot control my vocabulary] all day long.</p><p><span style="color: #6666ff">Just because you have your head shoved up your [Removed for Content] doesnt mean the rest of us want to stick anything up our [Removed for Content]. You pretty much helped prove my point and did nothing to prove yours. BTW your one of the people with the least right to complain by your own words...GRATS!</span></p><p>As for class imbalances...yes rogues, druids, and sk's seem to have somewhat of an advantage, but its certainly not an unsurmontable one, they simply take slightly less skill to get the same results as other classes.</p><p><span style="color: #6666ff">Well at least you open your eyes a little to the truth.</span></p><p>The only intelligent statements you made are mentioning the problems of bug exploition and server movelogs.  Neither of which has anything to do with your post's supposed topic.  Hopefully they will both be solved shortly, getting tired of hearing <a href="http://soe-ing.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/soe_ing.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=16310&p_created=1146608838&p_sid=3yPwetvi&p_accessibility=&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPSZwX3NvcnRfYnk9JnBfZ3JpZHNvcnQ9JnBfc m93X2NudD0yMjUyJnBfcHJvZHM9JnBfY2F0cz0mcF9wdj0mcF9 jdj0mcF9zZWFyY2hfdHlwZT1hbnN3ZXJzLnNlYXJjaF9ubCZwX 3BhZ2U9MQ**&p_li=&p_topview=1" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">soon(tm).</a> </p><p><span style="color: #6699ff">Well darn if my statements where unintelligent yet I showed how all your statements where wrong whats that make your statements? Hmmm</span></p></blockquote>

CresentBlade
03-23-2007, 03:18 AM
<cite>Wytie wrote:</cite><blockquote>OP Cry more<span style="font-size: xx-small"> <i>NooB</i></span>  how about a exile Swash could kill all 3 of you. Get some resistance you get 60%  resist in Disease then you'll laugh at a SK till then ALL SK's will laugh at you<i> <span style="font-size: xx-small">noob!</span></i> </blockquote><p>Hey space cedit monks dont really get any resist gear till upper teirs, so please spare my your BS since all you do is HT anyway and run your mouth to defend your overpowered class.</p><p>Hows that new FURRY class coming? [Removed for Content] </p>

Dannd
03-23-2007, 05:17 AM
<cite>Gildorath wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Wytie wrote:</cite><blockquote>OP Cry more<span style="font-size: xx-small"> <i>NooB</i></span>  how about a exile Swash could kill all 3 of you. Get some resistance you get 60%  resist in Disease then you'll laugh at a SK till then ALL SK's will laugh at you<i> <span style="font-size: xx-small">noob!</span></i> </blockquote><p>Hey space cedit monks dont really get any resist gear till upper teirs, so please spare my your BS since all you do is HT anyway and run your mouth to defend your overpowered class.</p><p>Hows that new FURRY class coming? [I cannot control my vocabulary] </p></blockquote><p>You're wrong there Gildorath.  Level 22 Mastercrafted Leather armor comes with resists (appropriate for the tier).  Chain and Plate do not come with resists at that level.  Recommend you place some +dis or +wis adorns on your various pieces to boost yourself up a bit.  But honestly, when going against an SK, there's always a possibility their HT line is up - that's the gamble you take with PVP.</p><p>I can't believe a Monk is complaining about his/her inadequacy to PvP.  Brawlers are one of the most well balanced pvp'rs in the game - all imo.</p><p>For SOE:  Look at the header of the window (upper left hand corner) - the expletative still shows regardless of your in forum filter mechanic. </p>

Eyes
03-23-2007, 05:18 AM
<p> Waahhh  have to cry because a quenos wizard killed my freeport wizard <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> his icenova was crit mine(master1) was resisted and i know that mine has the better armor buuhuuhuu ...</p><p>Should i cry because your monk can kill a lot of other classes in 1vs1?</p><p>dont know if they changed this this one quest which i cant remember the name right now. You have to walk through kelethin ... on my server, a lot of the Fay don't betray so ... its really fun running around an hope that there are al out for killing someone/something else.</p><p>is that other one right that for one (perhaps) interesting/important quest you need to the high elf speech?</p><p>yeah in quenos you go to castleview and buy it for 12s or something.</p><p>perhaps you should not see only you and your class.</p><p>Look at the whoole thing ...</p><p>btw yeah, freeps can walk through south and north quenos, right?</p><p>which one is that with the high lvl guards? yeah, really funny walking around there and what happens when wir are in your city? if no one attacks us we can kill no one ...</p><p><b>dont know what your point is ... both cities have overpowered classes!!!</b></p><p>Learn to play yours, than you know what you can attack and what not ...  or play one which is better than the opposite one</p><p>have you ever seen an mystic or defiler hunting solo for pvp? that would be funny ...</p>

Norrsken
03-23-2007, 05:27 AM
<cite>Gildorath wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I was a 46 monk and couldnt [I cannot control my vocabulary] beat a 47 Brusier. Me and another monk lost to a [I cannot control my vocabulary] Shadowknight who was only 43...2 [I cannot control my vocabulary] monks loseing to a SK but hey they are not overpowered, my [I cannot control my vocabulary] [I cannot control my vocabulary] they arent. If the wusses arent HTing then they got a cheesy [I cannot control my vocabulary] lifetap that drains more then any Necro I have ever seen.</p><p>Sony like Freeport more then Qeynos and always has.</p><p>Shadowknight > Paladin</p><p>Brusier > Monk</p><p>Wizard = Wizard</p><p>Warlock = Warlock</p><p>Inquis > Templar</p><p>Defiler = Mystic</p><p>Ranger = Assassin</p><p>Brigand = Swashy</p><p>Blah Blah Blah even Freeports newbie zones have more guards. No wonder so many people are seeking other games now, [I cannot control my vocabulary] customer service as seen by the way Sony is ignoring so many about server moves. And many other things. This game has so many [I cannot control my vocabulary] bugs and exploiting now its not even funny and the people who speak up about others cheating or sploiting get in trouble while the mother [I cannot control my vocabulary] doing all the cheating are left alone.</p><p>Dont even talk to me about gear the lowest pieces I have are adorned MC doesnt matter, if your not playing the right class your screwed. The current top classes are:</p><p>Scouts (but being given a run for their money)</p><p>ShadowKnights</p><p>Druids</p><p>If you dont play one of these classes then your screwed, so many of these are so over powered they could run around only covered in [I cannot control my vocabulary] and still own all. Enough is enough starting to think I will be joining the ranks of those leaving. And ya I am [Removed for Content] while posting and could give a [I cannot control my vocabulary] if you care about what I am posting or not.</p></blockquote> Now, get off that tiny pony, get your head out of your [I cannot control my vocabulary] and lets throw some more random symbols between litterals around <p>Shadowknight = Paladin   (In the case of equally skilled and geared, the sk is more forgiving to [I cannot control my vocabulary] players) Brusier = Monk Inquis > Templar Defiler < Mystic Ranger = Assassin Brigand < Swashy</p> <p>And, those guys by WNC, they are not called GUARD per se, but they are of Q faction, aggro to FP, and not Q. Quite close to a guard.</p> <p>Q have keeps, with guards, with one entrance alone in a couple of places in ant, and the silly cabin. And that stupid sword.</p><p>FP have XR. There are vastly more guards for Q in ant than there is for FP in CL. Hell, you even have an epic guard there, we dont. </p><p>And the only time when your two entry gates is of any use to FP is at lvl cap. There are epic guards inside both of them, guards readily pulled to any FPs who enter the zone. Q's have two easy escape routes, FP have one. Think man. </p> And if you cant walk right into XR, then you need to learn your zones better. The gnollslayer keep is a hotspot, simply because full Q groups go to TS station, hit a freep, and hightail it into the keep. And, a tidbit more, the guards in noobie zones and CL/Ant are 2 out of 7 tiers. The rest of the tiers dont have guards.

Rattfa
03-23-2007, 06:50 AM
Wow the OP got his face owned because he doesnt know how to play his class. Grats?

Harbringer Doom
03-23-2007, 10:05 AM
<cite>ZUES wrote:</cite><blockquote>What I'm tired of is everyone from pvp complaining about being tired of something. Of ALL the servers, you guys complain the most. Why is that? I'm not attacking anyone, I'm just tired of hearing it. /shrug</blockquote> You do realize you're posting this on the PVP discussion boards... which, unless I'm mistaken, you've CHOOSEN to read of your own free will. I'm not attacking anyone, but are you stupid?

Bozidar
03-23-2007, 10:17 AM
<p>LOL, you can't even get stuff right <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Assassin > Ranger</p><p>Swashy > Brigand (T7)</p>

Splintered
03-23-2007, 11:13 AM
<cite>Bozidar wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>LOL, you can't even get stuff right <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Assassin > Ranger</p><p>Swashy > Brigand (T7)</p></blockquote> between assassin and ranger i would say its a gamble, but would say the favor is on the rangers side. But if the assassin does reach the ranger its generally lights out.

Kaleyen
03-23-2007, 11:15 AM
SK = Paladin

Wytie
03-23-2007, 11:30 AM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote>SK = Paladin </blockquote> ROFLZ  <img src="/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Kaleyen
03-23-2007, 11:31 AM
<cite>Wytie wrote:</cite><blockquote>[email protected] wrote: <blockquote>SK = Paladin </blockquote> ROFLZ  <img src="/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></blockquote>Care for a duel to prove me wrong?

Yage
03-23-2007, 11:32 AM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote>SK = Paladin </blockquote><p> shadowknight = [Removed for Content] </p><p>Paladin = cheerleader</p><p> Get back to healing and rezing pallie <img src="/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>(would be much funnier if i played a guardian or zerker, but lets just pretend)</p>

Kaleyen
03-23-2007, 11:33 AM
Pssh, shiny cheerleaders!

Bozidar
03-23-2007, 11:38 AM
<cite>Splintered wrote:</cite><blockquote>between assassin and ranger i would say its a gamble, but would say the favor is on the rangers side. But if the assassin does reach the ranger its generally lights out. </blockquote><p>*shrug*</p><p>Maybe i'm biased from what i've seen in game.  I'm sure there are some very good rangers out there, though, that will hand me my anus on a platter.  But overall, i think it's not the easiest thing in the world to keep a guy at a distance and you can't count on it.  And when they turn their backs.. we have pretty good back-shots too <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>I'm POSITIVE it's closer than i <i>feel</i> it is.. but i've never faced an even con ranger that made me worry </p>

Wytie
03-23-2007, 11:44 AM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote><cite>Wytie wrote:</cite><blockquote>[email protected] wrote: <blockquote>SK = Paladin </blockquote> ROFLZ  <img src="/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></blockquote>Care for a duel to prove me wrong? </blockquote><p> you'd pwn me Liluk and i know it <img src="/smilies/499fd50bc713bfcdf2ab5a23c00c2d62.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>give me some time to get half the fabled gear you got, and you got yourself a deal bro, till then i might as well be green to ya....</p>

Wytie
03-23-2007, 11:46 AM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote>[email protected] wrote: <blockquote>SK = Paladin </blockquote><p> shadowknight = [Removed for Content] </p><p>Paladin = cheerleader</p><p> Get back to healing and rezing pallie <img src="/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>(would be much funnier if i played a guardian or zerker, but lets just pretend)</p></blockquote> I would like my rematch Yage <img src="/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> got my 2 levels hehe

Kaleyen
03-23-2007, 11:46 AM
Get some of the PVP gear, speaking from a Paladin stand point the PVP gear PWNS the EoF fabled set gear.  Makes me sooooooo jealous!

Wytie
03-23-2007, 11:56 AM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote>Get some of the PVP gear, speaking from a Paladin stand point the PVP gear PWNS the EoF fabled set gear.  Makes me sooooooo jealous! </blockquote> my dice has been broke on token rolls  <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  

MikeMatsumo
03-23-2007, 06:23 PM
Well, I have 2 paladins. 1 full flabed lvl 70 = pve server 1 still lvl 47 - pvp server I think I already duel 8 times with sk. Full flabed too. I lost 3 times and win 5. if you are not lvl 65 and sk already lvl 62 you have problems. He will use  pestilent touch. but, if you already lvl 65 just use Castigate in right time and everthing will be ok. Keep you in heals/wards and let him attack like crazy. use potions too for take diseases off. try only use your emergency heal after sk use death march. when his mana off, start burn. In pvp server, i still dont have Castigate, so,  im trying use potions. I already fight 5 times in pvp. one time sk was 4 lvls < then me, so i can say i already fight 4 times. And I win 3. One time he was 2 lvls more hight then me. I will say that sk = pally. totally. its all about player skill. of course, i still think pally its not a easy class for play. you need know very well what each spell do and what is the best time to use. if you are a good player i think pally is the most hard tank to kill in one vs one.

Cocytus
03-23-2007, 07:11 PM
LOL

Oneira
03-24-2007, 03:54 AM
<cite>Bozidar wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>LOL, you can't even get stuff right <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Assassin > Ranger</p><p>Swashy > Brigand (T7)</p></blockquote> Um, no i beg to differ about rangers.  The question is not who wins if an assassin fights a ranger, it's how effective each is overall at pvp, and from what I see, Rangers are top notch. In and out of combat speed, multiple snares, the ability to kite, T1 damage and being a scout--rangers can be goddammed effective.  I don't see assassins with any special advantage over them.

Darlion
03-24-2007, 05:02 AM
<cite>Gildorath wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I was a 46 monk and couldnt [I cannot control my vocabulary] beat a 47 Brusier. Me and another monk lost to a [I cannot control my vocabulary] Shadowknight who was only 43...2 [I cannot control my vocabulary] monks loseing to a SK but hey they are not overpowered, my [I cannot control my vocabulary] [I cannot control my vocabulary] they arent. If the wusses arent HTing then they got a cheesy [I cannot control my vocabulary] lifetap that drains more then any Necro I have ever seen.</p><p>Sony like Freeport more then Qeynos and always has.</p><p>Shadowknight > Paladin</p><p>Brusier > Monk</p><p>Wizard = Wizard</p><p>Warlock = Warlock</p><p>Inquis > Templar</p><p>Defiler = Mystic</p><p>Ranger = Assassin</p><p>Brigand = Swashy</p><p>Blah Blah Blah even Freeports newbie zones have more guards. No wonder so many people are seeking other games now, [I cannot control my vocabulary] customer service as seen by the way Sony is ignoring so many about server moves. And many other things. This game has so many [I cannot control my vocabulary] bugs and exploiting now its not even funny and the people who speak up about others cheating or sploiting get in trouble while the mother [I cannot control my vocabulary] doing all the cheating are left alone.</p><p>Dont even talk to me about gear the lowest pieces I have are adorned MC doesnt matter, if your not playing the right class your screwed. The current top classes are:</p><p>Scouts (but being given a run for their money)</p><p>ShadowKnights</p><p>Druids</p><p>If you dont play one of these classes then your screwed, so many of these are so over powered they could run around only covered in [I cannot control my vocabulary] and still own all. Enough is enough starting to think I will be joining the ranks of those leaving. And ya I am [Removed for Content] while posting and could give a [I cannot control my vocabulary] if you care about what I am posting or not.</p></blockquote><p>I am sure this has been mentioned but you have no idea what you are doing. Monks are perfectly compitent, and even very strong with the right gear selection, more than the equal of any bruiser (Much better at getting away /chuckle). Inquisitor is in no way better than a templar if you are using them for that which they are built. A templar is so much more powerful at healing a group, and sanctuary is just fun in group vs group. Rangers are ruthless, as are paladins in group vs group (better than SKs in group v group by far). In terms of sheer power Swashbuckler is currently the strongest class in the game.</p><p>Where is the favoratism? Qeynos has the strongest class in the game, and probibly one of the strongest healers, and some of the better support classes. You need to stop fighting people who are wearing gear that's more than 3 quality levels above you. If you and another person can't kill someone 4 levels below you that person is A) Much better than both of you, and B) wearing much better gear than both of you, I don't care what classes are involved.</p><p>P.s. Monks get much stronger in T7. Ever thought of leveling? Tsunami, long duration relatively short recast stifle, near infallible feign death, and magic damage ward (this spell is sick versus casters). With the right AA spec you can hit 100% crits at 30% pop tsunami and the ward and become invincible while doing ridiculous damage. Even if that doesn't work, when they drop you can heal for something like 40% after. And EVEN if that doesn't work, if you are body speced you can sprint away at like 70% speed. </p>

Cocytus
03-24-2007, 02:32 PM
<p>Actually, I think wizards are stronger.</p><p>If the wizard sees the swashbuckler before the swashbuckler sees the wizard, wizard should win unless he just sucks. Vice versa applies as well.</p><p>Well, then that draws me to the old debate...skill/competency> class, but I really am tired of wasting my breath saying that, because I know people are going to come here [Removed for Content] and moaning instead of figuring out ways to kill stuff.</p><p> Back when I was level locked at 16, I figured out how to kill reds. You can [Removed for Content] well figure out how to kill a solo player regardless of class.</p>

Magius789
03-24-2007, 02:49 PM
<cite>Wytie wrote:</cite><blockquote>OP Cry more<span style="font-size: xx-small"> <i>NooB</i></span>  how about a exile Swash could kill all 3 of you. Get some resistance you get 60%  resist in Disease then you'll laugh at a SK till then ALL SK's will laugh at you<i> <span style="font-size: xx-small">noob!</span></i> </blockquote> Wouldn't the SK just use their debuffs to take your resists down and then HT or PT you?  So if they are mastered out or atleast adept III, which at our lvl is pretty much a given wouldn't it not matter what your resists are?  The only reason I ask is that it seems the only players I find to PvP against are SK's and most of the time the fight is going well for me, even though most of the time I don't get the jump on them so basically I can't use my stealthed attacks, and right when I get them into the last 1/4 of their health, with me in the 50% range, I get hit with a PT.  It did 4k dmg of my messly 5.3k life.  I could set my watch to it.  Whats funny is after this fight the SK made a pet named skvsrangerlol.  I couldn't tell if he was trying to mock me or not considering without his PT I would have killed him.  Very tough class to fight for me.

dnice74
03-26-2007, 12:32 AM
<p>Necro < Conj In the beginning of the game Conjur were bad [I cannot control my vocabulary] now they have been nerfed to nothing Necros own Conjur now not to mention Necros can heal themselves and their pets where as Conjur can only heal pets...ya hmmm wonder which is better on Pvp? Necro!</p><p>While I think that Sony favors certain FP classes (like scouts), your post is full of holes. Where I play a conjuror, I found this one particularly....I'll be kind here....uninformed. </p><p>A <u>well-played</u> necro can be a good fight for a conjuror; I've had many close battles with them, and I've certainly had my share of losses to them. Undead tide + that 99999 second stun they get is nasty. However, if I have all my specials up and we have equal gear(this is for T7, btw): a necro <u>cannot</u> beat a well-played conjuror, because they can't overcome the burst DPS. Anti-stun potion, stoneskin, plane-shifted fire pet, maybe a BA for good measure, game over. It's not wildly over-balanced in the conjuror's favor by any means, but they definitely get the edge. And if they have lesser gear/AA's, or don't know how to play their class? Forget it. </p><p>You're level 46. I share some of your frustration, but you made a lot of silly points here.   </p>