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Mildavyn
03-19-2007, 11:17 AM
<p>Auditor of Silence: aITEM 1807050560 -1158784496:Auditor of Silence/a</p><p>Can anyone confirm that this earring procs 9800 mental resists like the in-game link says, or just 900 as the link from my database says? I want confirmation though, don't just look at the link and read the number off, i would like to see screenshots (or atleast you tell me that you checked) of before and after it procs. </p><p>If its 9800, then it would explain the insane resist rates i get against tanks, and it needs nerfing. If its only 900, then i guess i can live with it.</p><p>Normally i wouldn't care, but when almost everything, debuffs, mez, all of my damage other than auto-attack and procs (and my stealth/positional attacks) is mental damage, that earring (25% chance to proc on any mental damage) will be proccing like mad and if its 9800, then it almost completely shuts me down.</p>

Norrsken
03-19-2007, 11:23 AM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote><p>Auditor of Silence: aITEM 1807050560 -1158784496:Auditor of Silence/a</p><p>Can anyone confirm that this earring procs 9800 mental resists like the in-game link says, or just 900 as the link from my database says? I want confirmation though, don't just look at the link and read the number off, i would like to see screenshots (or atleast you tell me that you checked) of before and after it procs. </p><p>If its 9800, then it would explain the insane resist rates i get against tanks, and it needs nerfing. If its only 900, then i guess i can live with it.</p><p>Normally i wouldn't care, but when almost everything, debuffs, mez, all of my damage other than auto-attack and procs (and my stealth/positional attacks) is mental damage, that earring (25% chance to proc on any mental damage) will be proccing like mad and if its 9800, then it almost completely shuts me down.</p></blockquote> Already been a thread about this, but then I think it was a coercer that brought it up. Yeah, it is that bad. Itemization is broken in the game.

Darlion
03-19-2007, 12:34 PM
Yes, as soon as this procs, I go straight to 80% resistance to mental. This item is hardly the problem though, it is merely a symptom.

Wytie
03-19-2007, 12:42 PM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote><p>Auditor of Silence: aITEM 1807050560 -1158784496:Auditor of Silence/a</p><p>Can anyone confirm that this earring procs 9800 mental resists like the in-game link says, or just 900 as the link from my database says? I want confirmation though, don't just look at the link and read the number off, i would like to see screenshots (or atleast you tell me that you checked) of before and after it procs. </p><p>If its 9800, then it would explain the insane resist rates i get against tanks, and it needs nerfing. If its only 900, then i guess i can live with it.</p><p>Normally i wouldn't care, but when almost everything, debuffs, mez, all of my damage other than auto-attack and procs (and my stealth/positional attacks) is mental damage, that earring (25% chance to proc on any mental damage) will be proccing like mad and if its 9800, then it almost completely shuts me down.</p></blockquote>Hey bud this earring is sick but combin that with the "Luck of the Dirge" and you get an added proc %.  I cant remember the exact number but it goes from 25% to 30 somthing % and stack with every Dirge in the group hehehehe.

Cocytus
03-20-2007, 01:45 AM
Boo-hoo. You can't mez tanks. Cause tanks are SOOOO overpowered...

Norrsken
03-20-2007, 05:48 AM
<cite>Cocytus wrote:</cite><blockquote>Boo-hoo. You can't mez tanks. Cause tanks are SOOOO overpowered...</blockquote>Rather, broken itemization. Chanters and bards deal pretty much all their damage in mental. Having people instantly virtually immune to all you can do for the remainder of the fight is a broken mechanic. Or how would YOU like it if someone did the same to YOU? Oh, ehere is Teh Reeng öf Ubah. It will have a 25% chance to cast ubah on yourself if anyone pokes you. Ubah: Target gains 80% mitigation and 80% avoidance for 30 seconds. Also, having these values set hard, so even if you debuff them, they are still at 80/80%.

Mildavyn
03-20-2007, 07:16 AM
<cite>Cocytus wrote:</cite><blockquote>Boo-hoo. You can't mez tanks. Cause tanks are SOOOO overpowered...</blockquote><p> I dont care that i cant mez tanks, the problem is that I cannot, ever, kill anyone with those kinds of resists. Even with EVERY single one of my resist debuffs at master level with full AAs, i STILL can't even get rid of half that buff. Also, I have exactly 2 CAs that dont cause mental damage. So I'm causing mental damage atleast a couple times a second... so that proc is ALWAYS going to be up when they're fighting me.</p><p>Troubadors already have crap personal DPS, with this proc, tanks are un-killable.</p><p>FIX it please.</p>

Legiax
03-20-2007, 09:16 AM
<p>Paikis, i have newb DPS, come fight me im a tank wewt.</p><p>I just happen to parse the highest in every fight i take part in <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> /shrug</p><p>Tanks own IRL, and this ear ring just makes me laugh my [Removed for Content] off tbh, i run around with 8.5k HP, 60% mit, 40% avoidance in offensive, and all resists above 61% aborbance, then i proc that mental ear ring and get 80%... with the AoE DPS of a warlock ... rofl </p><p>[Removed for Content] owned.</p>

Greggthegrmreapr
03-20-2007, 10:46 AM
come figh me paikis...  my mental resists suck!

Mildavyn
03-20-2007, 12:26 PM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote>come figh me paikis...  my mental resists suck!</blockquote><p> I don't usually do arranged duels, people have too much oportunity to set up their resists to completely stop me in my tracks. I'm usually out in KoS though, I'm sure you'll be able to find me.</p><p>The battle of the best prepared that is an arranged duel doesn't show anything except who has the most items to draw from. </p><p>Enrage, i look forward to the day i meet you in a 1v1, everyone seems to dismiss bards as useless in 1v1s... but we're not completely gimped (just mostly) I've not seen you AT ALL, grouped or otherwise, so im guessing we're in different time zones? (GMT+10 for me)</p>

Radigazt
03-20-2007, 01:12 PM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote><cite>Cocytus wrote:</cite><blockquote>Boo-hoo. You can't mez tanks. Cause tanks are SOOOO overpowered...</blockquote>Rather, broken itemization. Chanters and bards deal pretty much all their damage in mental. Having people instantly virtually immune to all you can do for the remainder of the fight is a broken mechanic. Or how would YOU like it if someone did the same to YOU? Oh, ehere is Teh Reeng öf Ubah. It will have a 25% chance to cast ubah on yourself if anyone pokes you. Ubah: Target gains 80% mitigation and 80% avoidance for 30 seconds. Also, having these values set hard, so even if you debuff them, they are still at 80/80%. </blockquote><p> Oddly, if any item proc'd 80% resistance to crushing/piercing/slashing I'd imagine there would be about 50 threads explaining in detail how unfair it is.  But because the classes that suffer from this are so lightly played (compared to scouts for example), nobody seems to care.  </p><p>Anytime someone gets 80% resistance to any single type of damage, it's going to be virtually impossible to kill them with that type of damage.  If you've ever had a Monk use Tsunami and riposte, dodge, etc. 100% of your attacks for a few seconds, you understand how frustrating it is to have  your dps nullified.  This item is broken, and it's not the only one that is.  Great designing board ideas don't always work well when thrown into the mix with other things.  This proc-buff is overpowered, and when the item-switch macro system comes into play in LU33, it will become even more overpowered becasue you don't even have to have it equipped, but rather you can switch out entire gear-sets with a single key.  If you see a troubador, coercer or illusionist, hit the button that swaps in your mental resist gear, and the earring that makes you unkillable.  Yeah, the item is broken.  </p>

Legiax
03-20-2007, 02:23 PM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote>[email protected] wrote: <blockquote>come figh me paikis...  my mental resists suck!</blockquote><p> I don't usually do arranged duels, people have too much oportunity to set up their resists to completely stop me in my tracks. I'm usually out in KoS though, I'm sure you'll be able to find me.</p><p>The battle of the best prepared that is an arranged duel doesn't show anything except who has the most items to draw from. </p><p>Enrage, i look forward to the day i meet you in a 1v1, everyone seems to dismiss bards as useless in 1v1s... but we're not completely gimped (just mostly) I've not seen you AT ALL, grouped or otherwise, so im guessing we're in different time zones? (GMT+10 for me)</p></blockquote><p> Well, since im in England yea, your 10 hours behind me so we definately dont see eachother. Seen a lot of Dauntless around recently though, Jedash cant protect his fame forever, I wants it <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

Darlion
03-20-2007, 03:50 PM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote><p>Paikis, i have newb DPS, come fight me im a tank wewt.</p><p>I just happen to parse the highest in every fight i take part in <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> /shrug</p><p>Tanks own IRL, and this ear ring just makes me laugh my [I cannot control my vocabulary] off tbh, i run around with 8.5k HP, 60% mit, 40% avoidance in offensive, and all resists above 61% aborbance, then i proc that mental ear ring and get 80%... with the AoE DPS of a warlock ... rofl </p><p>[I cannot control my vocabulary] owned.</p></blockquote>You must know some really bad warlocks...

Ameniel
03-20-2007, 04:44 PM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote>[email protected] wrote: <blockquote>[email protected] wrote: <blockquote>come figh me paikis...  my mental resists suck!</blockquote><p> I don't usually do arranged duels, people have too much oportunity to set up their resists to completely stop me in my tracks. I'm usually out in KoS though, I'm sure you'll be able to find me.</p><p>The battle of the best prepared that is an arranged duel doesn't show anything except who has the most items to draw from. </p><p>Enrage, i look forward to the day i meet you in a 1v1, everyone seems to dismiss bards as useless in 1v1s... but we're not completely gimped (just mostly) I've not seen you AT ALL, grouped or otherwise, so im guessing we're in different time zones? (GMT+10 for me)</p></blockquote><p> Well, since im in England yea, your 10 hours behind me so we definately dont see eachother. Seen a lot of Dauntless around recently though, Jedash cant protect his fame forever, I wants it <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p></blockquote>Lol...good luck getting it, you tool...Jed would own your face

Léon
03-20-2007, 05:39 PM
It's like the 'Signet of Light from Darkness' ring thing lol, you can have green health and have your opponent in red , this piece a crap procs twice and the tables hasve turned it aint nice ^^ - cos its just luck -heal and dmg proc <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Mildavyn
03-20-2007, 07:43 PM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote>Well, since im in England yea, your 10 hours behind me so we definately dont see eachother. Seen a lot of Dauntless around recently though, Jedash cant protect his fame forever, I wants it <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></blockquote> Actually im 10 hours infront of you, 11 until sunday. And i still want this earring nerfed by atleast 90%. Not only does it proc for 9800, but its got 525 mental on it anyways. NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF!

Cocytus
03-21-2007, 02:16 AM
Yeah. Don't mind them fixing it if it's a <b>pvp fix only and they don't penalize pve because of it</b>.

Echgar
03-22-2007, 12:36 AM
I removed a handful of posts from this thread as it appeared to be getting a bit off track.  If you wish to participate in this thread, let's stay on topic please. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Eluzay
03-22-2007, 04:11 PM
<cite>Radigazt wrote:</cite><blockquote>[email protected] wrote: <blockquote><cite>Cocytus wrote:</cite><blockquote>Boo-hoo. You can't mez tanks. Cause tanks are SOOOO overpowered...</blockquote>Rather, broken itemization. Chanters and bards deal pretty much all their damage in mental. Having people instantly virtually immune to all you can do for the remainder of the fight is a broken mechanic. Or how would YOU like it if someone did the same to YOU? Oh, ehere is Teh Reeng öf Ubah. It will have a 25% chance to cast ubah on yourself if anyone pokes you. Ubah: Target gains 80% mitigation and 80% avoidance for 30 seconds. Also, having these values set hard, so even if you debuff them, they are still at 80/80%. </blockquote><p> Oddly, if any item proc'd 80% resistance to crushing/piercing/slashing I'd imagine there would be about 50 threads explaining in detail how unfair it is.  But because the classes that suffer from this are so lightly played (compared to scouts for example), nobody seems to care.  </p><p>Anytime someone gets 80% resistance to any single type of damage, it's going to be virtually impossible to kill them with that type of damage.  If you've ever had a Monk use Tsunami and riposte, dodge, etc. 100% of your attacks for a few seconds, you understand how frustrating it is to have  your dps nullified.  This item is broken, and it's not the only one that is.  Great designing board ideas don't always work well when thrown into the mix with other things.  This proc-buff is overpowered, and when the item-switch macro system comes into play in LU33, it will become even more overpowered becasue you don't even have to have it equipped, but rather you can switch out entire gear-sets with a single key.  If you see a troubador, coercer or illusionist, hit the button that swaps in your mental resist gear, and the earring that makes you unkillable.  Yeah, the item is broken.  </p></blockquote>actually the item is only wearable by figher classes, not known to be uber pvpers, this game is all about rock paper scisors so throwing a bone to tanks is no bigg imo... and yes I am a tank and yes i wear that item as main gear not switchout, and yes I have been killed by people that use mental, though significantly less since i had the item. But then again there is the pvp scout belt so this topic is much less hot than that one. That gives scouts (the unarguably best pvp classes) immunity to melee for a short duration.