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Tstorm
03-04-2007, 11:03 PM
<div align="center"><span style="font-size: large;">Forum Issues List</span> <div align="left"><b> Introduction</b> <div align="left"> The following issues list is intended to be an objective summary of issues identified by the EverQuest II community regarding the official forums, how they function, hierarchy, and similar.  In-game issues are out of scope.<b>Functionality Not Working Right</b> These issues describe where something the forum software advertises to do is not working correctly.  Note that this is for actual bugs and not features the community simply dislikes the implementation of. <div align="center"><div align="left"> <div align="left"><div align="center"><div align="left"><div align="center"><div align="left"><ul><li>Read vs Unread Posts<ul><li>Logging out or closing browser and reopening seems to cause all posts to be marked as read.  Forums seem to have poor/buggy tracking of read posts.</li></ul></li></ul> <div align="left"><ul><li>WYSIWYG Editor does not always result in identical post<ul><li>Particularly when more complex formatting is used in posts, what is displayed in the WYSIWYG editor is not always what appears after the post is submitted.  See example of one case <a rel="nofollow" href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?start=0&topic_id=350868#3999962" target="_blank">here</a>.</li></ul></li></ul> <ul><li>"target=_new" being used for links<ul><li>The post editor adds a "target=_new" to open links in a new window. This may work with IE, but all other browsers use "target=_blank" for this. The _new results in multiple links all being opened in the same page called "_new".</li></ul></li></ul> <ul><li>Horizontal size of the browser window being calculated improperly<ul><li>Possibly due to using "large system fonts" or other tweaks the forum software seems to be miscalculating the width of the browser window and is resulting in having to scroll horizontally to read an entire post.  See <a rel="nofollow" href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=353342" target="_blank">this thread</a>.  Opera users also reporting several instances of having to scroll horizontally.</li></ul></li></ul><ul><li>Signature links open in the signature frame<ul><li>If anyone uses links in their sig and they don't specify a "target" attribute, all links try to open in the tiny 500x150 sig iframe.</li></ul></li></ul><ul><li>Double line spacing happening<ul><li><a rel="nofollow" href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=383379" target="_blank">Several posters have noted</a> that pressing "enter" in a post results in double line spacing.</li></ul></li></ul><b>Desired Functionality Lost</b>This is a list of functionality present in the Lithium forum software but was lost after the forum transition that the community feels is important. <ul><li>Timezone setting<ul><li>In the profile, the community would like the ability to specify the timezone to display posts/threads in.</li></ul></li></ul><ul><li>Post preview<ul><li>While the post editor is quite nice looking, it does have some quirks and a “post preview” would be nice to prevent any issues.</li></ul></li></ul><ul><li>Spell checker<ul><li>The non-perfect spellers in the community would like a spell checker function (WORKAROUND: Browsers such as Firefox have built-in spell-as-you-type functionality)</li></ul></li></ul><ul><li>Different icon for threads you have replied to<ul><li>After replying to a given thread, there is a desire to see a different icon that would indicate the individual has participated in that thread.</li></ul></li></ul><ul><li>“Messages posted” in tracker format<ul><li>Posters would like a tracker-like view (similar to the “topics created by” or Dev Tracker) for the “Messages posted by” link in a profile.</li></ul></li></ul><ul><li>Friends list<ul><li>Ability to track posts and online status of a defined list of friends.</li></ul></li></ul><ul><li>Ignore list<ul><li>Ability to ignore PM's of a defined list of posters.</li></ul></li></ul> <ul><li>IMG/URL indicator<ul><li>Would like an indicator that shows whether the original post in a thread has an image or URL in it in the forum view.</li></ul></li></ul> <ul><li>Makes names link to profile when viewing a thread<ul><li>While viewing a thread, the forum name displayed in a post is not clickable as it was previously.  This should link to the poster's profile.</li></ul></li></ul> <ul><li>Read status on private messages<ul><li>Posters would like the ability to see whether the recipient of a private message has read the message or not.</li></ul></li></ul><ul><li>Quote within a post<ul><li>Posters would like to have the ability to quote from within the post editor rather than from only outside the post.</li></ul></li></ul> <b>Wishlist</b>This is a list of functionality the community would like to see but was not present before nor is it something that is currently bugged. <ul><li>More forum skins/variety<ul><li>More/different forum skins are desirable.  The current skins all have a dark background with light foreground and some more variety/choices are desirable.</li></ul></li></ul><ul><li> Date/time format<ul><li>International posters would like the ability in the profile to be able to specify the format for date/time.</li></ul></li></ul></div></div></div></div></div> <ul><li>Ignore list</li></ul></div><ul><li>Ability to ignore posts/threads of a defined list of posters.</li></ul></div> </div></div></div></div> <ul><li>Table Editor<ul><li>The ability to create/edit tables in the WYSIWYG editor is desirable.</li></ul></li></ul> <ul><li>Replies to PM's add too many "Re:"<ul><li>When you reply to a PM, the forum software prepends "Re:" regardless of the number of times it has been replied to.  This can result in several "Re:" prepended to the subject.</li></ul></li></ul><ul><li>Replies to PM's prepends "Re:" to the subject without space<ul><li>When you reply to a PM, the forum software prepends "Re:" before the subject, but does not include a space after the colon.</li></ul></li></ul><ul><li>Ability to ignore forums<ul><li>Some members of the community have expressed a desire to hide forums they have no interest in from the main forum listing.</li></ul></li></ul>

Tstorm
03-04-2007, 11:41 PM
<b>Changelog</b><ul><li>27-July-2008: Removed indent/outdent issue as well as issue about not being able to post as an unguilded character.  Both issues seem to be fixed!</li><li>22-Oct-2007: Removed Safari issue.  Unable to confirm this was still an issue</li><li>20-Oct-2007: Removed several items, added item for double line spacing</li><li>22-August-2007: Removed several items due to forum software update</li><li>12-July-2007: Added item for missing avatars (Erudite, Fae, and Arasai)</li><li>6-July-2007: Removed a few issues that no longer seem to be an issue after recent forum software updates.</li><li>11-May-2007: Removed issue regarding some posters having to repeatedly login (seems to have been fixed)</li><li>10-May-2007: Removed several search related issues (new search functionality added)</li><li>04-May-2007: Removed issue about colored text (appears to be fixed)</li><li>30-April-2007: Added issue for seeing read status on PMs, removed "duplicate post submission" issue (seems to be fixed)</li><li>21-April-2007: Added Opera browser as another example of horizontal size issue, added font/color issue, added session logout issue, added signature "target" issue, added request to hide forums</li><li>31-March-2007: Removed item regarding broken abuse reports.  Seems to be working again!</li><li>19-March-2007: Added item for horizontal width of posts being miscalculated.  Added new example for WYSIWYG editor not resulting in identical post issue.</li><li>14-March-2007: Added items for "Re:" prepending annoyances, clickable poster handle in thread views, "don't show signatures" preference</li><li>08-March-2007: Added item regarding "-1" answers</li><li>07-March-2007: Added item about first/last link in threads</li><li>06-March-2007: Removed item about PM indicator (fixed in software), added issues about "target=_new" and previous/next thread links</li><li>05-March-2007: Minor changes based on initial feedback</li><li>04-March-2007: Initial post</li></ul>

Seagoat
03-05-2007, 03:29 AM
Great list!  Looks like you've got most (if not all) of the bases covered...  I can't think of anything on my own personal wish list that you haven't covered here.  I hope it helps to bring about some of the changes / fixes we've all been itching for since the transition.

Roriondesexiest
03-05-2007, 02:32 PM
yeah PhPBB gets it right why not this forum?

Loki_d20
03-05-2007, 06:11 PM
Good post.  I've made some remarks here: <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?start=0&topic_id=350031#3967920" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...=350031#3967920</a> <hr />[email protected] DLere wrote: <blockquote>yeah PhPBB gets it right why not this forum?</blockquote>It seems SOE thought the need to develop their own message boards from the ground up.  While I can see why they decided against using shareware boards like phpBB or small-fee boards like vBulletin in order to develop one they can directly tie into their games, developing such a tool from scratch will always result in encountering many issues and playing a lot of catch up to the capabilities of boards that have existed since the mid to late 90s. I just hope this isn't considered the 'higher level of quality' that SOE has mentioned as the reason for their price hike of the SA subscription <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

chrystolr
03-05-2007, 06:28 PM
Picture url icons. Bring them back I want to know if theres gona be a picture in a thread before I view it. Makes threads get more attention as well. Also my PM isn't always showing I have a new PM

Tstorm
03-05-2007, 06:49 PM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote>It seems SOE thought the need to develop their own message boards from the ground up.  While I can see why they decided against using shareware boards like phpBB or small-fee boards like vBulletin in order to develop one they can directly tie into their games, developing such a tool from scratch will always result in encountering many issues and playing a lot of catch up to the capabilities of boards that have existed since the mid to late 90s. </blockquote>It is my understanding that the forum software we are now using is actually based on <a href="http://jforum.net/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Jforum</a> (somewhat modified I gather).  SOE has some pretty unique needs that aren't going to always plug in easily to any existing forum package (Station login, post as in-game character, huge user base, etc.). I will say, however, that I am a bit surprised to see so many issues still needing attention.  MxO, for example, transitioned to the new forum software over 6 months ago I believe.

Tstorm
03-05-2007, 06:53 PM
<cite>chrystolred wrote:</cite><blockquote>Picture url icons. Bring them back I want to know if theres gona be a picture in a thread before I view it. Makes threads get more attention as well. </blockquote>Oh good one!  I'll add this to the list. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> In my opinion, this is a fairly low priority issue compared to some of the other things, but it was nice having this indicator. <cite>chrystolred wrote:</cite><blockquote>Also my PM isn't always showing I have a new PM </blockquote>I already had that one in the list.  I *think* it was working when we first transitioned (but broke in an update), but I couldn't remember so I put it in the "Desired Functionality Lost" section. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Caoilfhionn
03-06-2007, 11:28 AM
<p>Frequently, I am getting automatically routed to this page - <a href="http://www.google.com/hws/gateway/afe?hl=en&s=http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/user/signature.m?user_id&rdr=afe" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/hws/gateway/a..._id&rdr=afe</a> - while reading the forums.</p><p>This seems to happen mainly on threads that have a lot of graphic signatures.</p><p>Anyone else having this issue?  I don't know if it's something caused by the new forums, or if it's something to do with my browser settings, but it never happened on the old forums.</p>

Jida
03-06-2007, 12:01 PM
<ul><li>Read vs Unread Posts</li><ul><li>Logging out or closing browser and reopening seems to cause all posts to be marked as read.</li></ul>This one irritates me to no end =( </ul>

gm9
03-06-2007, 12:23 PM
Nice compilation! One to add: The post editor adds a "target=_new" to open links in a new window. This may work with IE, I don't know, but all other browsers use "target=_blank" for this. The _new results in multiple links all being opened in the same page called "_new".

Surroth
03-06-2007, 12:33 PM
<p>That is a great list, I however have 1 to add to it.  </p><p> Please bring back the links for Previous and Next Thread.  I used those to keep from having to go back to the main window to select another thread to read.</p>

Zcore24
03-06-2007, 05:50 PM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote><ul><li>Read vs Unread Posts</li><ul><li>Logging out or closing browser and reopening seems to cause all posts to be marked as read.</li></ul>This one irritates me to no end =( </ul></blockquote> Me too...it happens even if you leave browser open and its just idle for like 10 minutes

Bramwe
03-06-2007, 06:36 PM
Separate the Expansion forum into their individual titles, such as Fallen Dynasty, Echoes of Faydwer, etc. instead of throwing them all into one.

Tstorm
03-06-2007, 07:04 PM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote><p>Frequently, I am getting automatically routed to this page - <a href="http://www.google.com/hws/gateway/afe?hl=en&s=http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/user/signature.m?user_id&rdr=afe" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/hws/gateway/a..._id&rdr=afe</a> - while reading the forums.</p><p>This seems to happen mainly on threads that have a lot of graphic signatures.</p><p>Anyone else having this issue?  I don't know if it's something caused by the new forums, or if it's something to do with my browser settings, but it never happened on the old forums.</p></blockquote>I haven't seen this personally.  I suspect it is something you have installed on your computer that is doing it.

Tstorm
03-06-2007, 07:06 PM
<cite>Bramwell wrote:</cite><blockquote>Separate the Expansion forum into their individual titles, such as Fallen Dynasty, Echoes of Faydwer, etc. instead of throwing them all into one. </blockquote>Let's start a new thread to discuss this one as I suspect there will be differing opinions.  If we can reach a reasonable consensus, I'll add it to the list. The thing with this one is that the old forums had different forums for each expansion and Grimwell decided to consolidate.  We'd need to give him good reason to re-expand them again (I am not saying this is not possible).

Tstorm
03-06-2007, 07:07 PM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote><p>That is a great list, I however have 1 to add to it.  </p><p> Please bring back the links for Previous and Next Thread.  I used those to keep from having to go back to the main window to select another thread to read.</p></blockquote>That isn't something I ever used, but it sounds like a fair functionality request to me.  I'll add it to the list. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Tstorm
03-06-2007, 07:10 PM
<cite>gm9 wrote:</cite><blockquote>Nice compilation! One to add: The post editor adds a "target=_new" to open links in a new window. This may work with IE, I don't know, but all other browsers use "target=_blank" for this. The _new results in multiple links all being opened in the same page called "_new". </blockquote>So it does (I had to look for myself).  I don't claim to be an expert in such things, but I'll add it to the list.

Loki_d20
03-07-2007, 02:45 AM
On threads with more than 7 pages of posts, we need First and Last hyperlinks on the appropriate pages.  Otherwise you have to go back to the thread list and navigate to the first or last page depending on the page you were originall viewing OR you navigate to multiple pages using the page number hyperlinks until you get to the first or last page.   <cite>Tstorm wrote:</cite><blockquote>[email protected] wrote: <blockquote>It seems SOE thought the need to develop their own message boards from the ground up.  While I can see why they decided against using shareware boards like phpBB or small-fee boards like vBulletin in order to develop one they can directly tie into their games, developing such a tool from scratch will always result in encountering many issues and playing a lot of catch up to the capabilities of boards that have existed since the mid to late 90s. </blockquote>It is my understanding that the forum software we are now using is actually based on <a href="http://jforum.net/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Jforum</a> (somewhat modified I gather).  SOE has some pretty unique needs that aren't going to always plug in easily to any existing forum package (Station login, post as in-game character, huge user base, etc.). I will say, however, that I am a bit surprised to see so many issues still needing attention.  MxO, for example, transitioned to the new forum software over 6 months ago I believe. </blockquote> I'm not sure it is.  Lacks a ton of the common tools/functionality of Jforum.   And, if it is, I wonder why they've disabled them.  With the shape it would be in now, I would consider the forums its own application and not one that can be upgraded in coordination with the Jforum updates.  Jforum is an okay forum tool, though.  Good version of phpBB2 using JSP.  We're using it for our AddUp client at work.

Nuhus
03-07-2007, 09:16 PM
I personally miss the post highlighting. As far as I can tell, I don't see an option.

Tstorm
03-07-2007, 11:18 PM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote>On threads with more than 7 pages of posts, we need First and Last hyperlinks on the appropriate pages.  Otherwise you have to go back to the thread list and navigate to the first or last page depending on the page you were originall viewing OR you navigate to multiple pages using the page number hyperlinks until you get to the first or last page.   </blockquote>Good one!  Added to the list. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

gm9
03-08-2007, 06:18 AM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote>I'm not sure it is.  Lacks a ton of the common tools/functionality of Jforum.   And, if it is, I wonder why they've disabled them.  With the shape it would be in now, I would consider the forums its own application and not one that can be upgraded in coordination with the Jforum updates.  Jforum is an okay forum tool, though.  Good version of phpBB2 using JSP.  We're using it for our AddUp client at work. </blockquote>Just look at the source of the entry page of the forums. It is titled JForum and you'll see informa tion like this: <i><meta name="author" content="www.jforum.net"/> <meta name="copyright" content="Copyright (c) 2003,2004 by www.jforum.net"/></i> And certainly the overall forum structure and icons look like JForum. Looking at the copyright tag, maybe it is an old version of JForum they are working with and hence the missing functionality.  <img src="/smilies/0a4d7238daa496a758252d0a2b1a1384.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  

CoLD MeTaL
03-08-2007, 12:10 PM
<p>Good list, I think you covered most of what I see as wrong with these new forums.  Over all look and feel is extremely hard to quantify.</p><p> Even Eq2Flames remembers which messages I have read and skips them, and that is just some guy in his garage running it.</p><p> Why didn't they at least get the freeware/shareware that sites like EQ2Flames use to use as a starting point.</p><p>A major communication tool with their customers has been destroyed and rendered useless.</p><p>Is SOE trying to kill this game?</p><p>Customers want 'better' communication, not 'worse'.  This is exponentially worse, than the few bugs we had with lithium.</p>

Didi
03-08-2007, 04:35 PM
<p>I noticed this very odd number of answers displayed today in the newbie forum:</p><p><img src="http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/2313/answers1es4.png" border="0"></p><p>When I posted an answer (mine was the only reply) the count moved to 0 answers.  Hmm!</p>

Seagoat
03-08-2007, 05:26 PM
<p>Didi wrote: </p><blockquote><p>I noticed this very odd number of answers displayed today in the newbie forum:</p><p>[snipped image 8><]</p><p>When I posted an answer (mine was the only reply) the count moved to 0 answers.  Hmm!</p></blockquote><p> That's been discussed (with an answer from an admin, too!) just a few posts down.  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=351339" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=351339</a></p>

TSR-JasonC
03-08-2007, 10:46 PM
<cite>Tstorm wrote:</cite><blockquote><div align="center"><b></b><div align="left"><div align="left"><b><span style="font-size: medium">Functionality Not Working Right</span></b> These issues describe where something the forum software advertises to do is not working correctly.  Note that this is for actual bugs and not features the community simply dislikes the implementation of. <div align="center"><div align="left"><div align="left"><div align="center"><div align="left"><div align="center"><div align="left"><div align="left"><ul><li>Editing Lithium-created posts causes errors</li><ul><li>Editing Lithium forum-created posts with the new forum software can cause messy results (WORKAROUND: Create brand new thread instead of editing old post). </li></ul></ul></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote> This one is my top beef.  I've got a lot of posts that I need to fix to reflect the new deep-linking, but when I do, it nukes the formatting and plasters cooked HTML tags all over the place.  Highly aggrevating, to say the least.

Didi
03-08-2007, 10:58 PM
OK, I'm blind!  <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Checked through this thread but didn't think it would be in a separate thread so didn't think to look ... <img src="/smilies/385970365b8ed7503b4294502a458efa.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Tstorm
03-09-2007, 12:20 AM
<cite>Didi wrote:</cite><blockquote>OK, I'm blind!  <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Checked through this thread but didn't think it would be in a separate thread so didn't think to look ... <img src="/smilies/385970365b8ed7503b4294502a458efa.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></blockquote>I just added the "-1" answers issue to the issues list in the first post here.  I was holding off putting it in since it was a brand new issue and I wasn't sure how quickly it might be fixed.  We do seem to be seeing at least one new forum software push per week from what I can tell, so there is hope that we will see this issues list shrink over time instead of continue to grow! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

gm9
03-09-2007, 05:25 AM
<cite>TSR-JasonC wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Tstorm wrote:</cite><blockquote><div align="center"><div align="left"><div align="left"><b><span style="font-size: medium">Functionality Not Working Right</span></b> These issues describe where something the forum software advertises to do is not working correctly.  Note that this is for actual bugs and not features the community simply dislikes the implementation of. <div align="center"><div align="left"><div align="left"><div align="center"><div align="left"><div align="center"><div align="left"><div align="left"><ul><li>Editing Lithium-created posts causes errors</li><ul><li>Editing Lithium forum-created posts with the new forum software can cause messy results (WORKAROUND: Create brand new thread instead of editing old post). </li></ul></ul></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote> This one is my top beef.  I've got a lot of posts that I need to fix to reflect the new deep-linking, but when I do, it nukes the formatting and plasters cooked HTML tags all over the place.  Highly aggrevating, to say the least. </blockquote>Workaround: Turn off JavaScript before editing, that will allow you to edit the HTML source. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Laeal
03-13-2007, 10:30 AM
My suggestion for "Desired Functionality Lost" would be the option to turn off signatures when viewing forums.

Seagoat
03-13-2007, 12:59 PM
<p>I've also noticed that if I tick all the boxes for my EQ2 characters on my "edit profile" page to make them public, then wait a day or so, the checkboxes all become unticked again.</p><p>I'm not sure what behavior on the forum triggers this, but I've given up on reticking them every day.  :-/</p>

Tstorm
03-13-2007, 01:45 PM
<cite>Seagoat wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I've also noticed that if I tick all the boxes for my EQ2 characters on my "edit profile" page to make them public, then wait a day or so, the checkboxes all become unticked again.</p><p>I'm not sure what behavior on the forum triggers this, but I've given up on reticking them every day.  :-/</p></blockquote>Hmm.  If you go to eq2players.com, log in, and change your preferences there does it stick?  It sounds like the profile on the forums isn't pushing your eq2players preferences properly.

Fringe
03-13-2007, 02:34 PM
<p>Out of curiosity, has anyone else noticed how great the <a href="http://www.eq2test.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Test Server Forums </a>are compared to here? They have such a nicer look and many of the missing features as well. Kind of odd if you ask me.</p><p>Check out the Search functions.</p>

Seagoat
03-13-2007, 11:34 PM
<cite>Tstorm wrote:</cite><blockquote>Hmm.  If you go to eq2players.com, log in, and change your preferences there does it stick?  It sounds like the profile on the forums isn't pushing your eq2players preferences properly. </blockquote><p> If I go to <a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/characters/character_admin_forumsettings.vm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">this page</a>, I can choose which character I want to post in on the forums.  (The alignment of that page is screwy, BTW, and all of the characters in the bottom section have male avatars instead of female!)  I have my main, Riannon, selected on both.  All ten of my girls have public Bio, Rankings, Alts, Profile, Gallery, Factions, and Achievements.  (Why have public PvP or Arena stats when I don't participate in those areas of the game?)</p><p>The thing is, none of these settings are new...I've had them set this way since just after the forum transition.  I'm going to go back in shortly and retick all those boxes on my forum profile; I'll let you know if they switch back tomorrow, as I expect they will.</p>

Seagoat
03-13-2007, 11:37 PM
<p>Another annoyance to add to the list:</p><p>When you reply to a PM, it gets prepended with "Re:" (no space after, which also makes me twitch).  The thing is, with every reply, another "Re:" is added, resulting in rediculously long subject lines:  "Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Oh, Hullo!"</p><p>Is there any way to tweak the PM code just a bit so that just one "Re:" is prepended?</p>

CoLD MeTaL
03-14-2007, 07:44 PM
<cite>Fringe wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Out of curiosity, has anyone else noticed how great the <a href="http://www.eq2test.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Test Server Forums </a>are compared to here? They have such a nicer look and many of the missing features as well. Kind of odd if you ask me.</p><p>Check out the Search functions.</p></blockquote><p> You will note that that forum is NOT run by SOE.</p><p>Too bad they chose JForums instead of phpBB, of course I wouldn't bring php into my corporate environment either, but there has to be an alternative somewhere.</p>

Fringe
03-14-2007, 08:30 PM
<cite>Tstorm wrote:</cite><blockquote><div align="center"><div align="left"><div align="left"><div align="center"><div align="left"><div align="left"><div align="center"><div align="left"><div align="center"><div align="left"><div align="left"><b><span style="font-size: medium">Wishlist</span></b> <b></b> </div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><ul><li>Post-as-character & unguilded characters</li><ul><li>Post-as-character seems to only be available to guilded characters.  Would like ability for unguilded characters to post as well. </li></ul></ul></div></div></blockquote><p>I believe that the above issue has been added as I now have my previously missing non-guilded characters listed as options within my forum persona window.</p><p>Please add to the Desired Functionality Lost section:</p><p>- The ability to click on our user name in the upper left corner of each board to access our recent posts list. This was something that we could do with the old board but now have to find a post of ours and use the Profile button or use the search feature (which we all know just isn't going to help).</p><p>- The ability to see which threads that we have posted in via visual cues on the thread folders for each board. Again, something that was apart of the old board and is currently missing. </p><p>Thank you.</p>

Fringe
03-14-2007, 08:35 PM
CoLD MeTaL wrote: <blockquote><cite>Fringe wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Out of curiosity, has anyone else noticed how great the <a href="http://www.eq2test.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Test Server Forums </a>are compared to here? They have such a nicer look and many of the missing features as well. Kind of odd if you ask me.</p><p>Check out the Search functions.</p></blockquote><p> You will note that that forum is run by SOE.</p><p>Too bad they chose JForums instead of phpBB, of course I wouldn't bring php into my corporate environment either, but there has to be an alternative somewhere.</p></blockquote><p>I'm guessing that you meant that that forum isn't run by SOE. If so then I didn't realize that, my mistake.</p><p>That is a very sharp looking & functioning board. We can only hope that the SOE web designers take a look and get some inspiration. </p>

Tstorm
03-15-2007, 12:53 AM
<cite>Laeal wrote:</cite><blockquote>My suggestion for "Desired Functionality Lost" would be the option to turn off signatures when viewing forums. </blockquote>I added this to the list.  I don't remember it being an option with Lithium (correct me if I'm wrong!) so I added it to the 'Wishlist' section.

Tstorm
03-15-2007, 12:59 AM
<cite>Fringe wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Out of curiosity, has anyone else noticed how great the <a href="http://www.eq2test.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Test Server Forums </a>are compared to here? They have such a nicer look and many of the missing features as well. Kind of odd if you ask me.</p><p>Check out the Search functions.</p></blockquote>The search features of this forum are clearly ... lacking.  It is difficult to understand why it was so poorly implemented, but we don't have all the facts. As for the look & feel, a lot of that is just forum skins.  If you know CSS and use Firefox, I know you can use the <a href="http://userstyles.org/stylish" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Stylish</a> extension to make tweaks.  Forum skins are a personal preference, but I fully expect SOE to churn out some better looking skins (check out the skins for the other SOE games in your profile) over time as some of the pure functionality issues get addressed.

Tstorm
03-15-2007, 01:02 AM
<cite>Seagoat wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Tstorm wrote:</cite><blockquote>Hmm.  If you go to eq2players.com, log in, and change your preferences there does it stick?  It sounds like the profile on the forums isn't pushing your eq2players preferences properly. </blockquote><p> If I go to <a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/characters/character_admin_forumsettings.vm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">this page</a>, I can choose which character I want to post in on the forums.  (The alignment of that page is screwy, BTW, and all of the characters in the bottom section have male avatars instead of female!)  I have my main, Riannon, selected on both.  All ten of my girls have public Bio, Rankings, Alts, Profile, Gallery, Factions, and Achievements.  (Why have public PvP or Arena stats when I don't participate in those areas of the game?)</p><p>The thing is, none of these settings are new...I've had them set this way since just after the forum transition.  I'm going to go back in shortly and retick all those boxes on my forum profile; I'll let you know if they switch back tomorrow, as I expect they will.</p></blockquote>I'm very curious to see what this turns up (technology geek here!). <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> On eq2players.com, I know the "character to post as" thing is for the guild forums I believe (not sure if it carries over here, though it probably should!). I am a bit wary to get into tracking bugs/issues on eq2players.com, but if the official forums have a preference that is supposed to interact with eq2players and isn't doing it properly, I'll definitely add it to the list!

Tstorm
03-15-2007, 01:03 AM
<cite>Seagoat wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Another annoyance to add to the list:</p><p>When you reply to a PM, it gets prepended with "Re:" (no space after, which also makes me twitch).  The thing is, with every reply, another "Re:" is added, resulting in rediculously long subject lines:  "Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Oh, Hullo!"</p><p>Is there any way to tweak the PM code just a bit so that just one "Re:" is prepended?</p></blockquote>I'd never noticed this myself (the obvious often misses me!), but yeah you're right!  I added these to the list. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Tstorm
03-15-2007, 01:08 AM
<cite>Fringe wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Tstorm wrote:</cite><blockquote><div align="center"><div align="left"><div align="left"><div align="center"><div align="left"><div align="left"><div align="center"><div align="left"><div align="center"><div align="left"><div align="left"><b><span style="font-size: medium">Wishlist</span></b> </div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><ul><li>Post-as-character & unguilded characters</li><ul><li>Post-as-character seems to only be available to guilded characters.  Would like ability for unguilded characters to post as well. </li></ul></ul></div></div></blockquote><p>I believe that the above issue has been added as I now have my previously missing non-guilded characters listed as options within my forum persona window.</p></blockquote> Interesting.  My unguilded characters still do not show up so it may be some other issue going on.  I think for now, I will leave the issue as-is, though I may need to change the wording some if it's different for some people.  Poor forum devs! <cite>Fringe wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Please add to the Desired Functionality Lost section:</p><p>- The ability to click on our user name in the upper left corner of each board to access our recent posts list. This was something that we could do with the old board but now have to find a post of ours and use the Profile button or use the search feature (which we all know just isn't going to help).</p></blockquote> Good one.  I think I'd seen someone talking about that before, but I just forgot to add it to the list initially.  Added it! Fringe wrote: <blockquote> <p>- The ability to see which threads that we have posted in via visual cues on the thread folders for each board. Again, something that was apart of the old board and is currently missing.</p> </blockquote> That was already there (unless I'm missing something!). <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Fringe
03-15-2007, 01:39 AM
<p>You are correct, that last one mentioned was already on the list and I missed it the first time around.</p><p>BTW, thank you for all of your time and effort on this project. As a forum junkie I highly appreciated everything that you are doing. I look forward to the day that this board can make the statement that we all hope for. It will be nice to have a fully functioning board that we all had a part in it's evolution. Thanks again.</p>

Seagoat
03-15-2007, 11:35 AM
<p>Certain smilies destroy posts.  The ones I know of:</p><p><img src="/smilies/ed515dbff23a0ee3241dcc0a601c9ed6.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <img src="/smilies/49869fe8223507d7223db3451e5321aa.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <img src="/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <img src="/smilies/e78feac27fa924c4d0ad6cf5819f3554.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>It also seems like anything between two certain smilies gets cut out.  (I've noticed this in my sig thread, where I have to paste a lot of graphics and enjoy using smilies; some posts I have to disable smilies altogether because they bork things so bad.)</p>

Tstorm
03-16-2007, 12:33 PM
<cite>Seagoat wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Certain smilies destroy posts.  The ones I know of:</p><p><img src="/smilies/ed515dbff23a0ee3241dcc0a601c9ed6.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <img src="/smilies/49869fe8223507d7223db3451e5321aa.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <img src="/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <img src="/smilies/e78feac27fa924c4d0ad6cf5819f3554.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>It also seems like anything between two certain smilies gets cut out.  (I've noticed this in my sig thread, where I have to paste a lot of graphics and enjoy using smilies; some posts I have to disable smilies altogether because they bork things so bad.)</p></blockquote>I'm having trouble reproducing this.  Is it just in signatures that this happens, or is it anywhere?  Can you give some examples?

Seagoat
03-16-2007, 12:53 PM
<p>Tstorm wrote: </p><blockquote><cite>Seagoat wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Certain smilies destroy posts.  The ones I know of:</p><p><img src="/smilies/ed515dbff23a0ee3241dcc0a601c9ed6.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <img src="/smilies/49869fe8223507d7223db3451e5321aa.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <img src="/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <img src="/smilies/e78feac27fa924c4d0ad6cf5819f3554.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>It also seems like anything between two certain smilies gets cut out.  (I've noticed this in my sig thread, where I have to paste a lot of graphics and enjoy using smilies; some posts I have to disable smilies altogether because they bork things so bad.)</p></blockquote>I'm having trouble reproducing this.  Is it just in signatures that this happens, or is it anywhere?  Can you give some examples? </blockquote><p> <img src="/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Trying to quote the entire post just above this, including a smiley in the line just above this, to see if it chops out the middle.</p><p>EDIT:  Typing a smiley, then some text, an image, some more text, and another smiley...</p><p><img src="/smilies/49869fe8223507d7223db3451e5321aa.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Jackdaws love my big sphinx of quartz.</p><p><img src="/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>End test.  <img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

Seagoat
03-16-2007, 01:07 PM
<p>It didn't happen with the original post, but with an edit.  Here's what the above post was <i>supposed</i> to look like:</p><p><img src="http://eq2.lunaclick.net/misc/hungrypost01.jpg" border="0"></p>

Seagoat
03-16-2007, 06:34 PM
<cite>Seagoat wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Tstorm wrote:</cite><blockquote>Hmm.  If you go to eq2players.com, log in, and change your preferences there does it stick?  It sounds like the profile on the forums isn't pushing your eq2players preferences properly. </blockquote><p> If I go to <a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/characters/character_admin_forumsettings.vm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">this page</a>, I can choose which character I want to post in on the forums.  (The alignment of that page is screwy, BTW, and all of the characters in the bottom section have male avatars instead of female!)  I have my main, Riannon, selected on both.  All ten of my girls have public Bio, Rankings, Alts, Profile, Gallery, Factions, and Achievements.  (Why have public PvP or Arena stats when I don't participate in those areas of the game?)</p><p>The thing is, none of these settings are new...I've had them set this way since just after the forum transition.  I'm going to go back in shortly and retick all those boxes on my forum profile; I'll let you know if they switch back tomorrow, as I expect they will.</p></blockquote> I forgot to check the other day, but as of a few minutes ago, the boxes are unticked again.  I'll try to remember to check my profile every so often to see how long it takes them to untick again.

The_Patchwork_Rogue
03-19-2007, 11:55 AM
<p>I have one for the wishlist</p><p>I would like to see the ability to add custom group designations for access.</p><p>Currently the forums only have access based on Admin - Moderator - Member - Player - Station account - Anonymous.  I would find it very useful to have multiple "member" groups.  For my guild it would be used for making a discussion thread on recruits - so the members could discus if a new recruit was a good "fit" to the overall guild.  I would not want recruits to be able to read this thread but currently have no ability to do this without giving everybody in the guild Moderator status (which is not happening).</p><p>Other guilds may use it for similar reasons or to provide forums for their crafters only - or for guilds that do officer training at certain ranks.</p><p>If making a custom group function would prove to be too much of a problem - they could just break "member" down to the guild ranks of leader all the way down to recruit.  that would be kind of a pain in the butt from an admin point of view but at least the functionality with the current database already exists (if they would update the EQ2players database, which is another problem entirely!).</p>

Tstorm
03-19-2007, 09:49 PM
<cite>Seagoat wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>It didn't happen with the original post, but with an edit.  Here's what the above post was <i>supposed</i> to look like:</p></blockquote>Love it! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I'm sure the forum devs will appreciate a working example too. I think what I will do though with this one is add it as an example of the "WYSIWYG Editor does not always result in identical post" issue instead of making it a new issue since they're really talking about similar things. In case anyone hasn't figured this out yet, we seem to be using the <a href="http://tinymce.moxiecode.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">TinyMCE editor</a> as our WYSIWYG editor.  It sits on top of the <a href="http://jforum.net/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Jforum</a> forum software.  I think what we're seeing with bugs like this is that the TinyMCE editor is generating HTML that Jforum either hates, filters, or otherwise decides to change once you hit the "submit" button. You will actually notice similar issues if you copy & paste tables from a word processor or similar where it'll look fine in the editor but when you go to actually post it, it gets royally messed up. The bugs aside, I am pretty encouraged from what I see with the functionality available in the packages SOE have chosen to implement here.  Once the kinks get worked out, this could actually be very nice. Don't get me wrong as I am somewhat critical of SOE with regards to the state of the forum system we are currently being exposed to.  I think SOE could have delivered a much cleaner experience for us, particularly since EQ2 was one of the final games transitioned.  I just think that what we have is what we have been given and we can either dwell in the bad or be a little more forward looking. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Tstorm
03-19-2007, 10:04 PM
<cite>The_Patchwork_Rogue wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I have one for the wishlist</p><p>I would like to see the ability to add custom group designations for access.</p></blockquote>I am always start squirming in my seat when it comes to documenting guild forum issues here.  It is a forum issue so it could be here, but it is really an issue that is unique to the guild forums which is an EQ2Players.com feature.  I also must admit I am a bit naive with regards to some of the EQ2players.com features (such as guild forums) so I'd have trouble verifying some of the issues. I am open to further discussion, but I think a better place for this is probably on the <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/forums/show.m?forum_id=2599" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">EQ2Players.com Forum</a>.  If an issues list hasn't already started there, I'd suggest it might be helpful to the community and the devs to start one that would be complementary to this one.

Whysprr_Wyrd
03-20-2007, 10:45 AM
<p>Is it futile to ask that the 'editing old (e.g. pre-forum changeover) messages results in gibberish' bug be fixed?  I maintain a big honkin' FAQ on the Dirge boards and I'm afraid to touch it to do an update because doing so turns my carefully-formatted work into something that came out of a compost heap.  It doesn't even work to delete the entire thing and re-paste text; which would at least allow me to keep things where they are and not make some poor moderator mess with the stickies yet again.  </p><p>The link to what happends when I try to edit old posts is:  </p><p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=196178" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=196178</a></p><p>Whysprr</p>

Tstorm
03-20-2007, 11:28 AM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote><p>Is it futile to ask that the 'editing old (e.g. pre-forum changeover) messages results in gibberish' bug be fixed?  I maintain a big honkin' FAQ on the Dirge boards and I'm afraid to touch it to do an update because doing so turns my carefully-formatted work into something that came out of a compost heap.  It doesn't even work to delete the entire thing and re-paste text; which would at least allow me to keep things where they are and not make some poor moderator mess with the stickies yet again.  </p><p>The link to what happends when I try to edit old posts is:  </p><p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=196178" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=196178</a></p><p>Whysprr</p></blockquote> I doubt it is "futile", but based on some of the other things currently in the list, I suspect it is a pretty low priority in the grand scheme of things. Out of curiosity, have you tried making a new thread and then copy & paste information as needed from the old thread to the new thread?  That way, you could make sure things end up looking right and if it does, I'm sure if you PM a moderator, they'd sticky/unsticky as needed.

Whysprr_Wyrd
03-21-2007, 02:22 AM
<cite>Tstorm wrote:</cite><blockquote>I doubt it is "futile", but based on some of the other things currently in the list, I suspect it is a pretty low priority in the grand scheme of things. Out of curiosity, have you tried making a new thread and then copy & paste information as needed from the old thread to the new thread?  That way, you could make sure things end up looking right and if it does, I'm sure if you PM a moderator, they'd sticky/unsticky as needed. </blockquote><p> That's the next step -- but it's about a 2 hour process if I have to edit the formatting.  Hopefully not, though.  </p>

CoLD MeTaL
03-26-2007, 12:29 PM
<p>On the "Wish List" there should be an option to 'ignore' a section.</p><p>I never want to read anything in 'non-gameplay' section, PvP, or Station Exchange, and several others like 'other servers'.</p><p>Hey, it's a 'wish list'.</p>

Fringe
04-08-2007, 02:20 AM
<p>I'll second that.</p><p>Also, could we please have the Log In issues mentioned in the following thread added to the Functionality Not Working Right section: <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=354460" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Link</a></p>

Luhai
04-13-2007, 10:05 AM
as already posted <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=356655" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">here</a> the forums layout is totally messed up under Opera. This seems to be a problem on every page with the "Who is online" list. Here's a screenshot: <a href="http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/8729/soeforumsiu9.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://img185.imageshack....pg" border="0"></a> (for the rest of the tables I need to scroll to the right) Most of the time the names aren't even shown at all, I just see a huge box full of nothing with that small icon somewhere far to the right.

Tstorm
04-13-2007, 02:04 PM
Just a note for everyone -- I am not ignoring updating the list, but like many folks, I am having trouble editing posts. I figure if the "edit" issue isn't addressed soon, I'll create a new thread that includes these newer/updated issues and ask that the stickies be swapped.  Grimwell seems to be well aware of the "edit" issue, so I'm hoping it won't be too long!

Seagoat
04-18-2007, 10:55 PM
<p>I'd like to request a slight tweak...</p><p>If anyone uses links in their sig and they <i>don't</i> specify a "target" attribute (which most people won't), all links try to open in the tiny 500x150 sig iframe.  This is a silly behavior.  :p  The easiest, fastest fix ever would be to add this to the sig page code (the page that's called to display a user's sig in the iframe) between the <head> and </head> tags:</p><p><base target="_blank" /></p><p>It would save everyone a lot of trouble, as well as free up valuable characters.  <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

Tstorm
04-22-2007, 01:03 AM
I just went through and made some changes.  See the changelog post above for details. If I missed anything, please let me know.  With "edit" not working right for awhile there, some of these things backed up on me and sorting through what is truly a new issue versus someone that is just venting about something that is already there is easier said than done! It would be of great help if people that have noticed some of the issues posted could let me know when something is no longer an issue.  I try to verify a lot of these things myself, but some of these issues I am unable to test (Opera issues, for example).  SOE does not provide us with release notes with each forum software release so we're on our own with maintaining this list.  If we keep this issues list current, it will be valuable to both the community and SOE. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Fringe
04-22-2007, 06:05 PM
Great job Tstorm. If I notice any changes  I'll be sure to let you know. Please keep up the good work. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Tyndaleon
04-24-2007, 05:31 PM
I read through the initial post but not the entire thread, but I've noticed an issue that to my knowledge hasn't been listed or addressed:  Private messages you send, when you go to view them in your sent box, there is never any indication given whatsoever when and/or whether that private message has been read.  On the Lithium forums, you always saw whether they had been read or not and I believe a timestamp given as well.

Seagoat
04-30-2007, 12:16 PM
<p>I'm not getting the "Duplicate post submission" error very much at all, if ever.  I think they might have done a ninja fix...</p><p>This post is also to test this theory, since I opened three new windows to three separate threads while I was typing this!</p><p>EDIT:  Yep, it seems to be gone!  Anybody else still experiencing it?</p>

Tstorm
04-30-2007, 12:50 PM
<cite>Seagoat wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I'm not getting the "Duplicate post submission" error very much at all, if ever.  I think they might have done a ninja fix...</p><p>This post is also to test this theory, since I opened three new windows to three separate threads while I was typing this!</p><p>EDIT:  Yep, it seems to be gone!  Anybody else still experiencing it?</p></blockquote>I just tried on purpose myself after seeing this post.  Kudos to Seagoat for discovering this was fixed! <img src="/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Tstorm
05-10-2007, 06:06 PM
Note -- I updated the list today and removed a handful of the 'search' related issues as we were given a vastly improved search form with the most recent update. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> As I look through some of the remaining issues, I am scratching my head a bit as some are for browsers/environments that I am unable to test myself.  It is really helpful to know after a big update like this if the folks that have reported trouble in the past are no longer seeing the issue so I can fix the list.

Isisalthea
05-10-2007, 07:02 PM
Great list.  Just wanted to mention the having to re-log in everytime I come to forums seems to have been resolved with the last patch. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Lantis
05-11-2007, 11:28 AM
The 'need to relog every time' issue is fixed for me with this week's update they did to the forums.

Tstorm
05-11-2007, 08:33 PM
This has been a fun week.  I have actually been <i>removing</i> things from the list instead of adding to it! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Note -- I just removed the re-login issue.  Thanks to those that mentioned it appears to be better now as I was never having that issue (not entirely sure why) Those of you that may note I am a bit sluggish sometimes with updating the list are correct and it is intentional!  I figure after a forum software update there will be a few days of confusion along with the forum devs addressing some of the unforeseen snafus quickly (as we saw this time with avatars, titles, and bold subjects).  To save myself having to add things then remove them the next day, I try to take a patient approach.

Eriol
06-01-2007, 02:31 PM
I must add my voice to the masses asking for post preview, especially since some of the most-used features (quoting) isn't "enabled" from any of the menus.  If you want to add it, there are "code" ways of doing so (I think) but you can't preview to make sure you are submitting something valid, rather than a collection of code. Also, non-quoted indentations would be nice.  There are reasons for them occasionally.

Pogball
06-18-2007, 04:52 AM
STILL having problems with Opera and forum home page - it does not size properly and scrolls horizontally for miles. Post this before but seems to have been ignored since its been on for months now - do SoE fix these things or am I being force to use IE?

Seagoat
06-18-2007, 12:38 PM
<p>I'm pretty sure it's an issue with Opera rather than the forums.  Granted, code <i>should</i> be displayed nearly identically across all browsers in an ideal world...but whoever said this was an ideal world?  <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>You can use IE, or Firefox, or Netscape -- any one of a handful of more "mainstream" browsers.  Many websites aren't designed specifically to look good in Opera because there just aren't that many Opera users out there to "worry" about.  Most sites cater to IE, Netscape, and Firefox users, since the vast majority of their visitors will be using one of those three browsers.  It's all about the numbers, unfortunately, and if you're an Opera die-hard, they're not in your favor.  <img src="/smilies/136dd33cba83140c7ce38db096d05aed.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

Pogball
06-21-2007, 08:16 AM
Thing is all the other pages on the forum are formatted fine, so its obviously a forum problem and something missing from the formatting. And was all fine prior to SoEs 'revamp' around with the forums a few months ago. Having been involved with the design of professional websites and one of the first things you do is check it works on browsers of all ilks because your customer is king. Something SoE seems a bit remiss with.

Tstorm
07-02-2007, 09:06 PM
There was a new forum update today, but I am going to give it a day or two before I update the list. If anyone has pet peeves in the list that have been addressed, please speak up! The things I already know about that changed are listed <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=369698" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">here</a>.

bdlarmor
07-20-2007, 12:45 AM
<p>Preview!!</p><p>Quote option within the Editor.</p><p>Pretty "standard" things IMO, and 2 reasons I don't post here very much at all =/</p><p>And why does a line break have to double space? Do i have to write a bunch of garbage just to get my text to wrap to the next line. Seems kinda dumb. Writing crap to prove my point again and again and again and again.....</p><p>posting w/o a preview</p><p>/crosses fingers</p>

FireDragon
08-02-2007, 07:30 AM
predefined avatars are also missing for frogloks.

Mronin
08-18-2007, 09:12 PM
The "log me in automatically every time I visit" option doesn't seem to work nice with firefox (though seems to behave properly under IE).  Also the ever popular issue of not being able to switch personas to toons that are not guilded.  As none of my toons are currently guilded I can't switch personas, where as before I could guilded or not.  I don't know when this came into play but I for one call B.S. on this change.

Proteck
08-30-2007, 08:01 AM
In Game Update Note #29 (EoF) there is the link on examples: <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/message?board.id=testfeed&message.id=66299" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...essage.id=66299</a> but it doesn't work

Mikkahl
09-15-2007, 05:54 PM
<p>So "Notify when a reply is posted" has been broken for 5 months, and there has been no attempt to fix it?</p><p>Also, I think this used by called "subscribing" to a thread.  And didn't there used to be a way to display all the threads you were "subscribed" to?  I can't find any of that now.</p>

Hellswrath
09-19-2007, 12:52 AM
Messages read has not updated since Sept. 13.  Every time I log in, it flags every post since then as new, since it thinks the last time I logged in is the 13th, regardless of how many times since then I've logged in.  This is making it very cumbersome to sift through the threads.While there is already a seperate thread on this issue, I figured a post in the stickied issues list might grab someone's attention.

Hellswrath
09-19-2007, 04:51 PM
<cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite><blockquote>Messages read has not updated since Sept. 13.  Every time I log in, it flags every post since then as new, since it thinks the last time I logged in is the 13th, regardless of how many times since then I've logged in.  This is making it very cumbersome to sift through the threads.While there is already a seperate thread on this issue, I figured a post in the stickied issues list might grab someone's attention.</blockquote>The fix for this is on the way.  Thanks for the update, Sentinel.

Nylacra
11-19-2007, 04:25 PM
I cannot see most of the forum topics, like server / class forums.

Trynnus1
11-19-2007, 04:28 PM
<p>I too can not see any of the topics.</p>

Fringe
11-25-2007, 04:44 PM
<span class="postbody">Just some preliminary thoughts so please excuse any that might have already been covered elsewhere:</span><b>Functionality Not Working Right</b><ul><li>Read vs Unread Posts</li></ul><ul><ul><li>Logging out or closing browser and reopening seems to cause all posts to be marked as read.  Forums seem to have poor/buggy tracking of read posts.</li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li><span style="color: red;">“Forums seem to have poor/buggy tracking of read posts” is definitely the key phrase here. Not only does the forum randomly set certain posts to be marked as read but it will also randomly set some posts that have been read as unread.</span></li></ul></ul><ul><li>"target=_new" being used for links</li></ul><ul><ul><li>The post editor adds a "target=_new" to open links in a new window. This may work with IE, but all other browsers use "target=_blank" for this. The _new results in multiple links all being opened in the same page called "_new".</li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li><span style="color: red;">I wasn’t able to verify this through several test so maybe it has been fixed. Then again, I’m not an expert with this sort of issue and I was only able to test in IE6 and Firefox.</span></li></ul></ul><ul><li>Signature links open in the signature frame</li></ul><ul><ul><li>If anyone uses links in their sig and they don't specify a "target" attribute, all links try to open in the tiny 500x150 sig iframe.</li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li><span style="color: red;">Possibly fixed as Firefox opens sign</span><span style="color: red;">ature links without any target attribute in a new tab and IE6 opens them in a new window of normal size.</span></li></ul></ul><ul><li>Double line spacing happening</li></ul><ul><ul><li>Several posters have noted that pressing "enter" in a post results in double line spacing.</li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li><span style="color: #ff3300;">Just to note that while this does in fact still occur when using IE6 it doesn’t when using Firefox.</span></li></ul></ul> <ul><li><span style="color: #ff3300;">Editing a post that includes previous emotions will result in a “ /> being added to the end of the emotion. This doesn't effect emotions that are added during an edit but rather ones that had already existed prior to the edit either from the original creation of the post or from a previous edit of the post. <strike>This also seems to only effect text input emotions and not the ones that are part of the editor itself.</strike> </span><span style="color: #ff3300;"> </span><img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img mce_tsrc=" />" /> <span style="color: #ff0000;">Further testing on this issue has shown that it will occur regardless of how the emotion is added into the post. Also notice that certain emotions from the imbeded list are getting "smooshed" after submitting the post.</span> <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/49869fe8223507d7223db3451e5321aa.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /> <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /> <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/e78feac27fa924c4d0ad6cf5819f3554.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /> </li></ul><ul><li><span style="color: #ff3300;">The … in the “Who is online” section results in a listing of all members regardless of their online status.</span></li></ul><ul><li><span style="color: #ff3300;">Just now had to add that I've lost the display of the Cursor Carrot while creating this post. This makes it rather difficult to jump around a post in order to add, remove or edit previously typed text. EDIT: I just got it back by leaving changing focus to another application then coming back to continue creating this post. Not really sure why it happened in the first place though.</span></li></ul><b></b><b>Desired Functionality Lost</b> <ul><li>Timezone setting</li></ul><ul><ul><li>In the profile, the community would like the ability to specify the timezone to display posts/threads in.</li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li><span style="color: red;">Very helpful for all posters in all time-zones in determining when an Official News, Announcement or Update post was actually posted in regards to important information.</span></li></ul></ul> <ul><li>Post preview</li></ul><ul><ul><li>While the post editor is quite nice looking, it does have some quirks and a “post preview” would be nice to prevent any issues.</li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li><span style="color: red;">The Post Editor doesn’t seem to always work the same as when first creating a thread. The ability to Preview a Post prior to sending it to the public would help to alleviate a lot of the issues that someone like myself has with creating extensive posts containing formatting that we just aren’t all that familiar with. This might encourage some posters to follow through on posting importing information that they might have otherwise thrown out due to the frustration involved with getting the format to work out as they envisioned.</span></li></ul></ul><ul><li>Spell checker</li></ul><ul><ul><li>The non-perfect spellers in the community would like a spell checker function (WORKAROUND: Browsers such as Firefox have built-in spell-as-you-type functionality)</li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li><span style="font-size: 10pt;font-family: Symbol;color: red;"><span style="font-size: 7pt;"> </span></span><span style="color: red;">Another suggested workaround is the free <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.iespell.com/" target="_blank">IESpell</a> addon for Internet Explorer.</span></li></ul></ul><ul><li><span style="color: #ff3300;">Ability to Move individual forums to the Top of the board as desired.</span></li></ul><b></b><span class="postbody"><b>Wishlist</b></span><ul><li>Ignore list</li></ul> <ul><li>Ability to ignore posts/threads of a defined list of posters. <span style="color: red;">Just an Edit Note: This is the description of the bullet-point above and not a separate issue.</span></li></ul> <ul><li>Replies to PM's add too many "Re:"</li></ul><ul><ul><li>When you reply to a PM, the forum software prepends "Re:" regardless of the number of times it has been replied to.  This can result in several "Re:" prepended to the subject.</li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li><span style="color: red;">Workaround: Self editing Subject lines currently available.</span></li></ul></ul> <ul><li><span style="color: #ff3300;">Ability to Set All Forums As Read from the Main forum page and/or the SubForum pages.</span></li></ul> <ul><li><span style="color: #ff3300;">Ability to Unsubscribe from individual threads via a Subscription Manager screen (ala the current Bookmark Manager feature). The only way to currently unsubscribe to individual threads is via an Email link and only when someone posts to a subscribed thread.</span></li></ul> <span class="postbody"></span>

Fringe
02-06-2008, 02:11 PM
Here's another one that has recently popped up within the past 1-2 months that I completely forgot to add to the list above:Most of the time (not always) when I log into the site using Firefox it brings up the "Bookmark" window instead of the logged in window. In other words, it wants me to create a Bookmark to the site. I just cancel that request then reload the page in order to get to the site as logged in. Also note that I never log out to begin with, having to log in again is directly related to the issue of the site automatically logging me out sometimes after closing the window down.

Tstorm
07-27-2008, 01:26 PM
I updated the list today to remove things that have specifically been fixed.  Specifically, the request to add indent/outdent buttons to the editor and the request to allow posting as an unguilded character as both are "fixed".I haven't added the latest problems yet caused by the recent forum software update, but will be adding them very soon if they continue (I just don't want to get in the habit of adding and removing things every other day). <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />

feldon30
08-19-2008, 04:18 PM
The links in the e-mails that go out on subscribed threads take us to the thread/topic with the page numbering screwed up. It says I'm on page 3. I click on page 4 and get the same posts.

feldon30
08-20-2008, 12:31 PM
Actually it's even more complicated than I am saying. If I follow a link to this forum which takes me to some new posts, those new posts are added onto the page that the link took me to. So I go to the thread, and some new posts are tacked onto the end, then I click the next page, and I get the whole page with those new posts blended in. It's really bizarre. Suffice it to say the e-mail links are really broken.

Mynervia
09-02-2008, 11:18 PM
Putting the issues from the forum upgrade in the list would be some comfort to a few of us <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Would at least make it /look/ official :p(I'm mainly referring to the bug feldon30 references, which is more generally described as issues with respecting the "Preferred Page Size" profile setting. Some forum features use a fixed page size regardless of your setting (like the 'Page 1,2,3' links from the thread index always calculate using a page size of 15, and the links from search results (including the Trackers) always pick your destination page based on a page size of 20), which make for strange behavior with default settings (15) and no setting that will make everything work (since some calculates at 15, some at 20, regardless))There's still the old issue from before the forum upgrade, too, where a search link to the last post on a page would send you to the following page. For example, with a preferred page size of 20, this <a rel="nofollow" href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/preList.m?topic_id=428013&post_id=4773489" target="_blank">link from the dev tracker</a> sends you to <a rel="nofollow" href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?start=40&topic_id=428013�" target="_blank">page 3</a>, whereas the post is actually the last post of <a rel="nofollow" href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?start=20&topic_id=428013�" target="_blank">page 2</a>. This bug existed *before* the forum upgrade, and is separate from the links-going-to-wrong-page described above.Edit - Fixing links.  Forgot that the HTML/Paste-Plain-Text windows attempt to translate ampersands into html character codes, so links with terms like "�" die off and are replaced by one or two question marks.  I assume because it attempts to translate "&#..." into a html char code, fails, and spits out "??" for lack of any better idea - though it seems to deal with ampersands followed by a normal parameter just fine.  Editting it to "&amp;#4773489" etc resolves the issue.

SilkenKidden
09-23-2008, 12:11 PM
<p>Number of pages in a thread doesn't match between main listing and the count when you open the thread.  Once at the end of the thread, system often indicates a non-existent last page.  </p><p>This occurs when user does not use forum default for number of pages.  Using forum default for number of pages broke months ago and results in many multi page threads being listed as if they had only one page of notes.  </p>

Zerebro
04-09-2009, 12:04 PM
<div>Where did <span ><a href="../user/profile.m?user_id=4729"><strong><span style="color: #66ccff;">Tstorm</span></strong></a><strong><span style="color: #66ccff;"> </span></strong></span>go? These issues are still here, but it has been silent for a long time.</div><div></div><div>Time to shake it up SOE! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div>

Enna
09-25-2010, 06:56 AM
<p>Private messages wishlist: need a way to cancel or edit them.</p><p>Since there doesn't seem to be an "edit" button for PM's, I tried to delete and redo.</p><p>Sadly that had the result of sending multiple messages to the recipient - which was *not* my intention. <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

Veta
09-25-2012, 09:59 AM
<p>I have been have some difficulty with my Hit Points in game. I contacted a GM and they said this would be the best spot to post. According to eq2u and <span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: underline;">your</span> eq2 character page also both say that I have 60,069 hitpoints. I currently have 57,819. The GM proceeded to tell me that it was a bug on your site. So now is the in-game part. I tried to tell the GM that it is also happening in-game too. When I enter a zone, log-in, and port it changes my HP to 60,069 and then right as soon as i hit a forward or back arrow key it jumps back down to 57, 819. I have screenshots of this occuring, but I have not yet figured out how to post them. This is my only post to the forums, and I am just wandering if my character is bugged or if i am actually missing these hitpoints.</p>