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Myrdred
03-02-2007, 07:10 PM
Alright, I'm very tired of losing fights on the grounds that I don't know some minor part of the game's PVP rules. I can't find a list of the PVP rules, and it would help a lot to know where they might be found. Can someone provide a link or point me somewhere so I can finally just learn these stupid and easily exploitable rules?

Greenion
03-02-2007, 07:17 PM
<span style="color: #339900">ask nicely first.</span>

Myrdred
03-02-2007, 08:03 PM
Tell you what: Once this community (particularly the PVP community) starts to treat me with a little more kindness and civility, I'll return the favor. So far, anytime I've ever posted here I've received nothing but condescending "Go Back to WOW", "Don't PVP then", and other such extremely rude and condescending responses. Thus I can only assume that this is the way people communicate with each other around here and am just playing to the crowd's language. I've made a simple request, and any rudeness that came from it was directed at the rules set itself, which I will forever maintain is deeply flawed.

WasFycksir
03-02-2007, 08:08 PM
<p>First rule of PVP...</p><p>Don't talk about PVP</p><p> Couldn't resist lol</p>

Myrdred
03-02-2007, 08:14 PM
<cite>Greenion wrote:</cite><blockquote><span style="color: #339900">ask nicely first. </span></blockquote> But really more to the point, who are you to pose such an incredibly condescending condition? One would imagine that due to the declining population particularly in the PVP servers, other PVPers might be more willing to bear the occasional dissatisfied poster. I'm very tired of losing battles because I don't know some minor point to the ever changing PVP system which seems to favor and reward a form of online bullying. I see no reason to play an MMO which shats on those people who you want to keep playing past level 30!

chrystolr
03-02-2007, 08:17 PM
What dont you understand?

Myrdred
03-02-2007, 08:25 PM
<cite>chrystolred wrote:</cite><blockquote>What dont you understand? </blockquote> Well, there are a lot of things I don't understand, but I could never create a list that would satisfy what I'm looking for. I just want a rules list so I can once and for all know exactly what's going on in this game's PVP system. Surely such a thing exists.

chrystolr
03-02-2007, 08:31 PM
Not anymore it doesn't. I just got through posting a large thread on idea's for kill streaks and titles that sunk to the bottom so creating a pvp rule set probably wont be noticed by that many. I could probably create a whole new pvp rule set but it wont be until my computer is up. I'll get to it later if no one beats me to it.

Xova
03-02-2007, 08:33 PM
<p>chrystolred wrote: </p><blockquote>What dont you understand? </blockquote><p> I'll second that. I'm not clear on what exactly it is you don't understand about the PvP ruleset. Is it the zone level ranges? Who can/can't be attacked and when? Rules about zoning? What current bugs are out there? Because they're pretty straightforward and with a little searching in this forum you can easily find those answers. In fact, I made a post in a thread a few days ago outlining much of the current PvP ruleset for another new player.</p><p>Or are you just looking for tips on how to be more effective in PvP? In that case it would help to know your class/level/gear situation/etc. Who/what are you having trouble with? And so on.</p><p>To be blunt, if you want a good, solid, helpful answer, it would behoove you to ask accordingly and be clear in what it is you wish to know. If you want a [I cannot control my vocabulary], snarky reply like the one Greenion gave you, then stick with your original [Removed for Content], exasperated rant.</p><p>/edit:  Why don't you start with some basic questions that people can answer, and then add to it as you think of more?</p>

Badaxe Ba
03-02-2007, 08:36 PM
<p>Pvp rules in a nutshell.</p><p>1.  You will die.</p><p>2. You will die a lot.</p><p>3.  You will occasionally get to kill someone, then die.</p>

Greenion
03-02-2007, 08:53 PM
<cite>Myrdred wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Greenion wrote:</cite><blockquote><span style="color: #339900">ask nicely first. </span></blockquote><p> But really more to the point, who are you to pose such an incredibly condescending condition?</p><p><span style="color: #339900"> im one of the players with some of the answers to some of your questions.</span></p><p> One would imagine that due to the declining population particularly in the PVP servers, other PVPers might be more willing to bear the occasional dissatisfied poster. </p><p><span style="color: #339900">if you are that dissatisfied why then trouble yourself with learning the rules and waste my time having me explain all or a portion of them?</span> I'm very tired of losing battles because I don't know some minor point to the ever changing PVP system which seems to favor and reward a form of online bullying.</p><p> <span style="color: #339900">well then all we are waiting for now is for you to ask nicely. and of course for you to actually ask an answerable question...so far you havent really.</span></p><p> I see no reason to play an MMO which shats on those people who you want to keep playing past level 30!</p><p><span style="color: #339900">ok, opinion noted.</span></p></blockquote>

Kurindor_Mythecnea
03-03-2007, 08:44 AM
<cite>Greenion wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Myrdred wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Greenion wrote:</cite><blockquote><span style="color: #339900">ask nicely first. </span></blockquote><p> But really more to the point, who are you to pose such an incredibly condescending condition?</p><p><span style="color: #339900"> im one of the players with some of the answers to some of your questions.</span></p><p> One would imagine that due to the declining population particularly in the PVP servers, other PVPers might be more willing to bear the occasional dissatisfied poster. </p><p><span style="color: #339900">if you are that dissatisfied why then trouble yourself with learning the rules and waste my time having me explain all or a portion of them?</span> I'm very tired of losing battles because I don't know some minor point to the ever changing PVP system which seems to favor and reward a form of online bullying.</p><p> <span style="color: #339900">well then all we are waiting for now is for you to ask nicely. and of course for you to actually ask an answerable question...so far you havent really.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small"><span style="color: #cc3300"> I see no reason to play an MMO which shats on those people who you want to keep playing past level 30!</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">ok, opinion noted.</span></p></blockquote> </blockquote>TBH I find it fantastically more undignified to come expecting the panacea to agents of assistance without having even made an attempt at aiding your self. Is it not the first and foremost of common sense courtesies to aid one's self prior to seeking such? You have credited "the community" as having this mode of "shatting on players" and then exhibit it for yourself against that exact community. Why would we think such an introducing would befit one worth devoting our help to? Seriously, how could we expect someone without even a milligram of self-motivation to get anywhere in this game? <img src="/smilies/c30b4198e0907b23b8246bdd52aa1c3c.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Inzipid
03-03-2007, 09:42 AM
<cite>Kurindor_Mythecnea wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Greenion wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Myrdred wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Greenion wrote:</cite><blockquote><span style="color: #339900">ask nicely first. </span></blockquote><p> But really more to the point, who are you to pose such an incredibly condescending condition?</p><p><span style="color: #339900"> im one of the players with some of the answers to some of your questions.</span></p><p> One would imagine that due to the declining population particularly in the PVP servers, other PVPers might be more willing to bear the occasional dissatisfied poster. </p><p><span style="color: #339900">if you are that dissatisfied why then trouble yourself with learning the rules and waste my time having me explain all or a portion of them?</span> I'm very tired of losing battles because I don't know some minor point to the ever changing PVP system which seems to favor and reward a form of online bullying.</p><p> <span style="color: #339900">well then all we are waiting for now is for you to ask nicely. and of course for you to actually ask an answerable question...so far you havent really.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small"><span style="color: #cc3300"> I see no reason to play an MMO which shats on those people who you want to keep playing past level 30!</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">ok, opinion noted.</span></p></blockquote> </blockquote>TBH I find it fantastically more undignified to come expecting the panacea to agents of assistance without having even made an attempt at aiding your self. Is it not the first and foremost of common sense courtesies to aid one's self prior to seeking such? You have credited "the community" as having this mode of "shatting on players" and then exhibit it for yourself against that exact community. Why would we think such an introducing would befit one worth devoting our help to? Seriously, how could we expect someone without even a <b><span style="color: #990000">milligram</span></b> of self-motivation to get anywhere in this game? <img src="/smilies/c30b4198e0907b23b8246bdd52aa1c3c.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </blockquote>Metric FTW

Badaxe Ba
03-05-2007, 04:32 PM
<p><a href="http://everquest2.station.sony.com/manual/EQII_Manual.pdf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://everquest2.station.sony.com/...EQII_Manual.pdf</a></p><p>page 42 I think. GLthx</p>

Wytie
03-05-2007, 04:55 PM
<p>Now this thread delivers <img src="/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Can i have anybodys stuff???</p>

Eluzay
03-06-2007, 11:40 AM
<cite>Greenion wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Myrdred wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Greenion wrote:</cite><blockquote><span style="color: #339900">ask nicely first. </span></blockquote><p> But really more to the point, who are you to pose such an incredibly condescending condition?</p><p><span style="color: #339900"> im one of the players with some of the answers to some of your questions.</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900"><span style="color: #993333">even if he does not know he will give you an answer</span> </span></p><p> One would imagine that due to the declining population particularly in the PVP servers, other PVPers might be more willing to bear the occasional dissatisfied poster. </p><p><span style="color: #339900">if you are that dissatisfied why then trouble yourself with learning the rules and waste my time having me explain all or a portion of them?</span> <span style="color: #993333">but he will waste his time flaming you </span> I'm very tired of losing battles because I don't know some minor point to the ever changing PVP system which seems to favor and reward a form of online bullying.</p><p> <span style="color: #339900">well then all we are waiting for now is for you to ask nicely. and of course for you to actually ask an answerable question...so far you havent really.</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900"><span style="color: #993333">I am not part of his "we" but you do have to ask specific questions if you want to know something, but you dont have to kiss anyones [Removed for Content], just ask what you are confused about and someone that actually knows will post a response</span> </span></p><p> I see no reason to play an MMO which shats on those people who you want to keep playing past level 30!</p><p><span style="color: #339900">ok, opinion noted.</span></p></blockquote> </blockquote>

Greenion
03-06-2007, 11:58 AM
<p><span style="color: #339900">ok i shall rephrase, ask nicely or you can have answers from those that will still answer you and most likely only those...</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">and i will reiterate, do try and ask an actual question.</span></p>

Greeen-_-Ranger
03-06-2007, 12:09 PM
<p>Yes...you need to ask questions, PVP changes every update...do you not read udpate notes?  If you want a good feel, go read the link that was already inserted here, then go read the updates notes...boom, you know the REAL pvp ruleset.  And someone said something about dieing?  I think that you wont die then die alot, because I think you're just a pansy and will quit.  So yea, you want to come mouth off to the PVP community, expect to get it back..most 'new' pvpers dont read these, so you're blowing your only real chance of getting insightful help.  Forums is how I learned, and I have good titles, kill ratios, etc...even on my original toon.  Open your mind, figure out EXACTLY what you need to know if it isn't covered in the information that has now been provided, and ask a question...and Greenion's right, it would be helpful if you were a tad bit polite.</p>

Sinistria
03-06-2007, 12:14 PM
lord and frenzied taken. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />