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Gallenite
03-01-2007, 05:31 PM
<p>There were a couple hours this morning when our Character Transfer Service (CTS) had allowed characters from PvP worlds to transfer to other PvP worlds a bit earlier than we had expected. </p><p>The CTS will be a part of the solution to the EU PvP server population issues, which I'd like to take a minute to talk about.</p><p>Here's where we are at the moment, and here's where we're going:</p><p>* As of right now, we have PvP -> PvP server transfers functional, but closed off since they need to be tested a bit more before we're confident that all characters will be able to pass through safely.  (e.g. all PvP stats are copied correctly, all language and alignment combinations transferred safely, etc.)</p><p>* We're working with the billing team to make it such that CTS transfers <b>off </b>of Gorenaire, Talendor, and Darathar, to other PvP servers (Venekor, Nagafen, and Vox) will be able to be done for <b>no cost </b>to those wishing to transfer to more populated servers.</p><p>* At the same time, those who wish to transfer between Venekor and Nagafen will be able to do so at the standard CTS rate.</p><p>Once the billing changes have been made, and we've verified that the service is safe for PvP character use, we'll open it up and allow those new kinds of transfers. </p><p>We're intentionally <b><i>not </i></b>forcing transfers on anyone at this stage -- We want the first step in the process to be one where the choice is in your hands as to where you end up.</p><p>After that occurs, people will be able to choose their new permanent homes. Over this time we'll be observing carefully to see how that shakes out, and once we have we'll update you again with the next steps in the plan. </p><p>On our end, the next step is to work with our billing department on making sure that billing becomes disabled properly for the transfers off of the EU PvP servers, and ensure that the system is safe. </p><p>We'll have an update for you soon with more specific ETAs on our next steps.  </p><p>Thanks very much, and good hunting.</p><p>- Scott</p>

Kurindor_Mythecnea
03-01-2007, 05:33 PM
If you don't transfer to Nagafen, you don't have the Seal of Selirisatisfaction -- and if you don't know what this means...ugh...I just better leave it at that.

Elorah
03-01-2007, 05:40 PM
<span style="color: #cc0066">* We're working with the billing team to make it such that CTS transfers <b>off </b>of Gorenaire, Talendor, and Darathar, to other PvP servers (Venekor, Nagafen, and Vox) will be able to be done for <b>no cost </b>to those wishing to transfer to more populated servers.</span> That looks to me as if they are or will be allowing transfers TO Nagafen....

Kurindor_Mythecnea
03-01-2007, 05:42 PM
<cite>Elorah wrote:</cite><blockquote><span style="color: #cc0066">* We're working with the billing team to make it such that CTS transfers <b>off </b>of Gorenaire, Talendor, and Darathar, to other PvP servers (Venekor, Nagafen, and Vox) will be able to be done for <b>no cost </b>to those wishing to transfer to more populated servers.</span> That looks to me as if they are or will be <span style="font-size: xx-large; font-family: impact,chicago"><span style="color: #ffff00">allowing transfers TO Nagafen</span></span>.... </blockquote>=D =]]]  <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

EQ2Playa432
03-01-2007, 05:50 PM
This is good news. A forced transfer probably won't even be necessary if they allow free server transfers off these underpopulated pvp servers.

Elorah
03-01-2007, 05:54 PM
Hehe....  <img src="/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Greenion
03-01-2007, 05:58 PM
<p><span style="color: #00ff00"><span style="color: #339900">and unto the pvp bretheren one day</span> <span style="color: #993300"><b>Gallenite</b></span> <span style="color: #339900">didzt harken</span>...</span></p><p><span style="color: #00ff00">"<span style="color: #339900">thou euros shalt have thine transfers</span>"</span></p><p><span style="color: #00ff00"><span style="color: #339900">and happiness flourished throughout euro</span>-<span style="color: #339900">land</span>.</span></p>

olivejoe
03-01-2007, 06:00 PM
i just hope more ppl come to venekor than leave it we don't need a ton, a little infusion would help the server a great deal and keep it from being overpopulated and also keep everyone from jumping ship to nagafen just so they can find some people to kill

sirfrenchalot
03-01-2007, 06:04 PM
<p>This is indeed very good news. However there one little thing that still concerns me... what will happen to our guilds we have invested so much into? will it be possible to move them as well or will we have to start from scratch?</p><p>Being a guild leader, I have to admit I don't really feel like starting all over again :s especially as now my guild is getting very close to 60...</p><p>Just something I wondered. But really thank you for finally taking us out of the dark and giving us some news about what is intended it is defenately welcomed.</p><p>Khep</p>

Strums
03-01-2007, 06:05 PM
heh...bring on the pvp!  Nagafen's gona get real messy in the next month or so!

Kurindor_Mythecnea
03-01-2007, 06:06 PM
Woot WoOOOOooOOT

Kyrows
03-01-2007, 06:59 PM
Great news, but as Kheppie said - what about guilds? (I know - bloody europeans never satisfied!!) A lot of people worked very hard to get the guild where it is and it would be a great shame to throw that away.

Bozidar
03-01-2007, 07:00 PM
<cite>Gallenite wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>* At the same time, those who wish to transfer between Venekor and Nagafen will be able to do so at the standard CTS rate.</p></blockquote> Are you saying that folks from Venekor or Nagafen will not be able to transfer to Vox?

Palleon
03-01-2007, 07:08 PM
<p>Thank you for the update. Can I ask, what about Guild Transfers? Is this included as obviously we dont want to lose a years worth of guild levels if we can help it (and if the whole guild wishes to move).</p><p>Thanks.</p>

Norrsken
03-01-2007, 07:14 PM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote><cite>Gallenite wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>* At the same time, those who wish to transfer between Venekor and Nagafen will be able to do so at the standard CTS rate.</p></blockquote> Are you saying that folks from Venekor or Nagafen will not be able to transfer to Vox?</blockquote> He said "between Venekor and Nagafen" which is a nondirectional statement. So I guess we'll see transfers both ways between venekor and naggy. "from venekor to nagafen" is a good comparison.

JoePa
03-01-2007, 07:37 PM
What happens to players who are at the character limit on the US servers and are using the EU servers for thier PvP entertainment? Will they have thier US limit increased to accomodate all of thier toons?

Jaggid
03-01-2007, 07:39 PM
Great news, hopefully enough will transfer to pick up the PvP.

Ikuri
03-01-2007, 07:51 PM
<p>GREAT ! Vox been left out again ... Vox badly needs a population boost, this is totally unbelievable. It's great that they are working on character tranfers for other pvp servers, but we need more people on Vox as well and I hope the team will open discussions about Vox. </p>

Gallenite
03-01-2007, 08:06 PM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote><cite>Gallenite wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>* At the same time, those who wish to transfer between Venekor and Nagafen will be able to do so at the standard CTS rate.</p></blockquote> Are you saying that folks from Venekor or Nagafen will not be able to transfer to Vox?</blockquote><p> Good point.  I left that out. </p><p>* The current plan is that characters on the PvP worlds will be able to transfer to Vox, similar to the way that PvE characters can transfer to The Bazaar.  Same restrictions/droppable-equipment-and-coin-removal would apply.  </p><p>Note that this does <b><i>not </i></b>mean that non-US players will suddenly be able to use the Station Exchange service itself.  </p><p>There's a difference between having characters on an SE server, and actually being a user of the SE service.  If anyone has comments about that, I'll ask that you leave them out of this game-specific thread, as those decisions are outside the realm of both the EQ2 team, and the topic that we're discussing here, which is EU PvP server populations.</p><p> - Scott</p>

Captain Apple Darkberry
03-01-2007, 08:21 PM
<cite>Gallenite wrote:</cite><blockquote>[email protected] wrote: <blockquote><cite>Gallenite wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>* At the same time, those who wish to transfer between Venekor and Nagafen will be able to do so at the standard CTS rate.</p></blockquote> Are you saying that folks from Venekor or Nagafen will not be able to transfer to Vox?</blockquote><p> Good point.  I left that out. </p><p>* The current plan is that characters on the PvP worlds will be able to transfer to Vox, similar to the way that PvE characters can transfer to The Bazaar.  Same restrictions/droppable-equipment-and-coin-removal would apply.  </p><p>Note that this does <b><i>not </i></b>mean that non-US players will suddenly be able to use the Station Exchange service itself.  </p><p>There's a difference between having characters on an SE server, and actually being a user of the SE service.  If anyone has comments about that, I'll ask that you leave them out of this game-specific thread, as those decisions are outside the realm of both the EQ2 team, and the topic that we're discussing here, which is EU PvP server populations.</p><p> - Scott</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff3300">I understand that this is probably a question that you are unwilling to answer at this time, but...</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff3300">In the event that Venekor loses more people than it gains, will it be considered for merger into Nagafen?</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff3300">It is does not harbor a huge population right now, and any exodus, however slight, might turn it into the next Darathar, and it would be a shame to have it then left to drift for months.</span></p>

chrystolr
03-01-2007, 08:33 PM
Allowing transfer will solve nothing and only cause more problems. You think that players are gona leave the more populated nagafen to go to a less populated venekor? Not a chance. All this will do will increase the numbers of nagafen while the numbers to all the other pvp servers dwindle even more What needs to be done is a server merge + transfers. Once the server is merged then allow players to transfer to where ever they want.

sirfrenchalot
03-01-2007, 08:46 PM
<p>I don't think you should worry too much about Venekor's population.</p><p>There are quite a lot of people from the EU server that will leave. and I am sure a lot of people might even come back to the game to take the character they left on darathar for another server.</p><p>Now of course they will choose between Venekor, Nagafen and Vox (although being from the EU going to a SE enabled server doesn't present much interest given we lose all we have and can't use the service offered on that server)... </p><p>I know for a fact that IF guilds can move as a whole a few are considering Venekor as the destination. As guild leader, in the event the guild decides to move, I would really prefere Venekor over Nagafen (you can call me a wuss but I am not really a hardcore pvper  which nagie seems full off.... not fond of being just walking dead meat really).</p>

sirfrenchalot
03-01-2007, 09:36 PM
<cite>Gallenite wrote:</cite><blockquote>We're intentionally <b><i>not </i></b>forcing transfers on anyone at this stage -- We want the first step in the process to be one where the choice is in your hands as to where you end up. <p>After that occurs, people will be able to choose their new permanent homes. Over this time we'll be observing carefully to see how that shakes out, and once we have we'll update you again with the next steps in the plan. </p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #ffffff">Just tryingto read between the lines here so I can find the best course of action for my guild:</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000">We're intentionally <b><i>not </i></b>forcing transfers on anyone at this stage </span><span style="color: #ffffff">Does that mean at some point down the line the EU servers will be rid off and data merged with one of the existing US server? Server of course player would not choose but that would bring guilds over as a whole?</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000">After that occurs, people will be able to choose their new permanent homes </span><span style="color: #ffffff">And would taht mean that once the first step (initial movelog) and the second step (forced movelog/merge) players will still be able to change their mind and freely change to another server? Or is it just a reiteration of the first step?</span></p><p> Khep</p>

Zaviur
03-01-2007, 10:40 PM
Captain Apple Darkberry wrote: <blockquote><cite>Gallenite wrote:</cite><blockquote>[email protected] wrote: <blockquote><cite>Gallenite wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>* At the same time, those who wish to transfer between Venekor and Nagafen will be able to do so at the standard CTS rate.</p></blockquote> Are you saying that folks from Venekor or Nagafen will not be able to transfer to Vox?</blockquote><p> Good point.  I left that out. </p><p>* The current plan is that characters on the PvP worlds will be able to transfer to Vox, similar to the way that PvE characters can transfer to The Bazaar.  Same restrictions/droppable-equipment-and-coin-removal would apply.  </p><p>Note that this does <b><i>not </i></b>mean that non-US players will suddenly be able to use the Station Exchange service itself.  </p><p>There's a difference between having characters on an SE server, and actually being a user of the SE service.  If anyone has comments about that, I'll ask that you leave them out of this game-specific thread, as those decisions are outside the realm of both the EQ2 team, and the topic that we're discussing here, which is EU PvP server populations.</p><p> - Scott</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff3300">I understand that this is probably a question that you are unwilling to answer at this time, but...</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff3300">In the event that Venekor loses more people than it gains, will it be considered for merger into Nagafen?</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff3300">It is does not harbor a huge population right now, and any exodus, however slight, might turn it into the next Darathar, and it would be a shame to have it then left to drift for months.</span></p></blockquote>Great Vox it's the server where toons go to die....  No one in their right mind would want to transfer to Vox as it's one of the least populated server.  I can go days without seeing anyone from freeport.

Bozidar
03-02-2007, 03:07 AM
<cite>Zaviur wrote:</cite><blockquote>Great Vox it's the server where toons go to die....  No one in their right mind would want to transfer to Vox as it's one of the least populated server.  I can go days without seeing anyone from freeport. </blockquote><p> 1) You're not looking hard enough.</p><p>2) re-read the first page of this thread, and all the [Removed for Content] and moaning bout a 50$ fee...</p><p>3) Realize that the way that pvers transfer to the bazzar is FREE, no fee</p><p>*does the happy dance*</p><p>Vox is about to become the hottest club on the sunset strip <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  And here you are complaining.. </p>

Bozidar
03-02-2007, 03:07 AM
<cite>Gallenite wrote:</cite><blockquote>Good point.  I left that out.  <p>* The current plan is that characters on the PvP worlds will be able to transfer to Vox, similar to the way that PvE characters can transfer to The Bazaar.  Same restrictions/droppable-equipment-and-coin-removal would apply.  </p><p>Note that this does <b><i>not </i></b>mean that non-US players will suddenly be able to use the Station Exchange service itself.  </p><p>There's a difference between having characters on an SE server, and actually being a user of the SE service.  If anyone has comments about that, I'll ask that you leave them out of this game-specific thread, as those decisions are outside the realm of both the EQ2 team, and the topic that we're discussing here, which is EU PvP server populations.</p><p> - Scott</p></blockquote> Thx for the update and the answer, Scott.  Much appreciated <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Fu
03-02-2007, 03:09 AM
Good news But our big concern is what about Guilds. We have worked long and hard to get our guild to its current level, not an easy feat with a shrinking population.

Bozidar
03-02-2007, 03:17 AM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote>Good news But our big concern is what about Guilds. We have worked long and hard to get our guild to its current level, not an easy feat with a shrinking population. </blockquote><p> Anyone know what SoE has done with things like this in the past?  Sounds like it would be a difficult thing to move over, especailly considering there may be a guild of the same name on your destination server.</p><p>I'm not saying they'll say no, i don't know, but if i were you i'd be looking at your desination server's message boards and asking a few things:</p><p>Are there any like-minded guilds out there?</p><p>What level are they?</p><p>Are there any guilds for sale around your guilds level?</p><p>Have you ever danced with the devil by the pale moonlight?</p><p>I hope for your sake that they let you move your guild over.  Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.</p>

Dodger Sunsoar
03-02-2007, 04:22 AM
<p>Thanks Scott for your long overdue Information.</p><p>And also thank you for realising that you'll need to come out and let us know whats going on even tough i dont expect yet to be able to transfer in the next few weeks ...  we waited 10 months .... we can wait another month ...    <img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Besides i think the /transfers are a first step prior to the merger of the leftovers since you cant really have EU servers run with like 10 active players on it once the majority moved to Naggy wich should be the destination for any willing PvP player.</p><p>Looking forward to seeing and killing and getting killed by all you Naggy-Gankers (you know who you are!)</p><p>CHeers!</p>

Palleon
03-02-2007, 04:24 AM
<p>I know of a number of guilds who would prefer Venekor (from Darathar) so fear not Venekorians!</p><p>But we still need an answer on guildmoves.</p>

Badaxe Ba
03-02-2007, 04:30 AM
<p><span style="font-size: large">NOW OPEN FOR SETTLEMENT.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: small">I heard that about Freeport at least, heh, but they've got a new strain of flying bugs moving in, so's It might be a tad hectic!</span></p>

Grimfort
03-02-2007, 06:16 AM
<p>Can we get a population count (or just density) to see how busy the other servers are? Im at darathar this is like the best thing since sliced bread!</p>

Eeling
03-02-2007, 06:20 AM
<p>Hi Scott, Many thanks for finaly revieling your intentions. It is much appreciated by your Euro PvP population (at least <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />). Anyways, I wanted to ask a few things.</p><p>I have a character on Naggy named the same as my toon on Darathar. The toon on Darathar is by far the oldest and everything about it is better. When I move my character from Darathar to Naggy what will my name outcome be? I would really like to keep my name on the Darathar toon, and my lowbie alt on Naggy I don't care too much about (I'll delete if needed to keep name on Darathar-toon).</p><p>Another thing I was abit unsure of. Will I need to collect my inroom, bank, etc? Or is the transfer intended to leave everything as on the prior server.</p><p>Finaly, I take it that guilds isn't gonna be movable? (A shame, but OK ... I can live with it, my main issues has come true. No fee on transfer and the actual transfer <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>- Eeling, happier today <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

Zh
03-02-2007, 06:36 AM
<p>Hallo zusammen, könnte bitte etwas zu diesem Thema auch im dt. Forum gepostet werden? Schön wären auch Angaben darüber, welche Server in welcher Weise betroffen sind und in wie weit Transfers zwischen den Servern möglich sind. Interessant wäre auch zu erfahren, welche der quasi toten Server still gelegt werden und welche erhalten bleiben. Mir wäre es natürlich recht, wenn alle EU Server nach Talendor transferiert würden, aber das ist wohl eher Wunschgedanke. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>It´s only a german question for a post at german forums.</p>

achilles04
03-02-2007, 07:10 AM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote>[email protected] wrote: <blockquote>Good news But our big concern is what about Guilds. We have worked long and hard to get our guild to its current level, not an easy feat with a shrinking population. </blockquote><p> Anyone know what SoE has done with things like this in the past?  Sounds like it would be a difficult thing to move over, especailly considering there may be a guild of the same name on your destination server.</p><p>I'm not saying they'll say no, i don't know, but if i were you i'd be looking at your desination server's message boards and asking a few things:</p><p>Are there any like-minded guilds out there?</p><p>What level are they?</p><p>Are there any guilds for sale around your guilds level?</p><p>Have you ever danced with the devil by the pale moonlight?</p><p>I hope for your sake that they let you move your guild over.  Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.</p></blockquote><p>The only experience ive had with guild movelogs was back in the infancy of eq2. Euro players were on Runneye which was run as an american server, our peak times the servers were being taken down almost daily. Eventually SOE allowed movelogs and as far as guild movelogs went they said it was too much of an undertaking and therefore we had to all transfer then reform the guild under normal policy, ie no one has your name etc, you start from scratch. </p><p>This could be the way it may work, which will be a shame for those close to 60. For those that have hit 60 already the only real loss is the flexing rights and also the city merchant gear, but in my eyes its no biggy. </p><p>One thing however, is that the runneye to splitpaw migration waas 3 years ago, things could of changed and therefore a guild movelog maybe a viable option now, who nows. I imagine the exodus that will occur maybe enough headache to warrant a non commited guild movelog initially as its a non forced choice. </p><p>So many variables with so many decisions needed to be made by each and every player on the EU servers. One thing is already sure, Purity has tagged its name in Qeynos on nagafen already <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Watch this space.... </p>

OnGaruda
03-02-2007, 08:32 AM
<p>YEAH! YEAH! YEAHYEAHYEAHYEAH!!!!!!!</p><p> YUHUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU UUUUUUUUUUUUU!! YES! YEEEES!!!</p><p> eheh</p><p> VOOOOOLAAREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE OOO OOOOOOOOOOO CAAAAANTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAREEEE OOOooooOOOOOoooOOOOOO</p><p> I'm really happy to have read this new!! and i'll come back on EQ2 with my lvl 70 Fury ^^</p><p>When trasnfer will be possible i'll use it to go from Darathar to Nagafen <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Thx Staff!</p>

Amphibia
03-02-2007, 08:47 AM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote>[email protected] wrote: <p>One thing however, is that the runneye to splitpaw migration waas 3 years ago, things could of changed and therefore a guild movelog maybe a viable option now, who nows. I imagine the exodus that will occur maybe enough headache to warrant a non commited guild movelog initially as its a non forced choice. </p></blockquote>I see, I was wrong about that then. I guess unless this has changed, you might have to wait for a merge if you want to keep your guild intact, with guildlevels and all that. :-/ Anyways, this is a good start. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

ToejaM t
03-02-2007, 09:24 AM
<p>What about guilds?</p><p>Everything is so vague but more importantly WHEN? All this time and you don't have exact details? Oh my.</p>

gloeckle
03-02-2007, 09:51 AM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote>We have worked long and hard to get our guild to its current level, not an easy feat with a shrinking population. </blockquote> indeed very nice to hear! /thumbs only that question needs to be answered <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Legiax
03-02-2007, 10:43 AM
<p>Come to Venekor, we wub you all <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

Jaggid
03-02-2007, 01:23 PM
Come on EU!  Bring us your best PvP! <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Jordam
03-02-2007, 02:28 PM
Come to Nagafen<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Agamennone
03-02-2007, 02:36 PM
ooh, it sounds Great for us EU player!!! nice nice nice! what a pity about all this time to take right way .. al my guild left. peraphs now someone coming back!! Agamennone Conjurer of Darathar

Ultimatum
03-02-2007, 02:41 PM
Awesome news!  I for one anm looking forward to having new people to kill <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> BTW, any word on if it will ever be possible to transfer PvE characters to PvP?  Just wondering

Palleon
03-02-2007, 03:46 PM
<p>OK, so Guild moves are hard, or not able to be done yet I guess, fair enough.</p><p>So, here's an idea for you SOE. If a recently moved player (an existing guild leader) creates a new guild on one of the new servers with the same guild name (if possible) as their old guild then /petitions a GM, give the GM the ability to buff the guild to the same level as the old one. The information is all there, its even on EQ2Players, so they can see the move has happened, and I know GM's have the ability to buff a guild levels (as I have seen them do it), so it shouldnt be hard to do. There wont be that many requests, as lets face it, there arent many guild anymore, and if you include the rule that the /petition has to be done within a week of transfer then it will stop people abusing it. Also, flag it that once an old guild has been buffed on the new server then that guild cant be buffed again.</p><p>That way we can keep the years work we have all put in, and you dont have to design any new transfer systems.</p>

sirfrenchalot
03-02-2007, 05:05 PM
<p>I love that idea to be honest.</p><p>I would really like not to lose the guild level. We did work quite hard to get to where we are now.</p>

OnGaruda
03-02-2007, 05:13 PM
but when free transfer will be possible?

Kaleyen
03-02-2007, 05:21 PM
Come one come all to Venekor!

Bozidar
03-02-2007, 05:30 PM
<p>Come one and all to Vox.   <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Don't be intimidated by the Station Exchange.  I've been on the server for less than a year, never used the SE, but i'm still very well off.</p><p>and our economies are way better than nagafen, especially on the Q side! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Vox Qeynos beckons you all!!!!!</p>

Willian
03-02-2007, 05:33 PM
Come to Nagafen <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Fu
03-02-2007, 06:04 PM
<cite>JoePa wrote:</cite><blockquote>What happens to players who are at the character limit on the US servers and are using the EU servers for thier PvP entertainment? Will they have thier US limit increased to accomodate all of thier toons?</blockquote>Exactly I played on Lavastorm/Nektulos before Darathar and still play on there.. I have at least 3 pvp characters I would want to move but not enough free slots.

sirfrenchalot
03-02-2007, 06:47 PM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote><p>Come one and all to Vox.   <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Don't be intimidated by the Station Exchange.  I've been on the server for less than a year, never used the SE, but i'm still very well off.</p><p>and our economies are way better than nagafen, especially on the Q side! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Vox Qeynos beckons you all!!!!!</p></blockquote><p> I'll be very honest with you.... Vox and Station Exchange doesn't seem a very good choice. Basically as EU citizens, we won't be able to use the Station Exchange feature. More over, as I understand it from Gallenite's post, if we were to transfer there we would still lose items and money as it is the case when you transfer to a SE enabled server.... which wouldn't be the case for nagafen or venekor.....</p><p>It seems like a no win situation to me :s</p>

Jordam
03-02-2007, 07:42 PM
grrr

chrystolr
03-02-2007, 07:44 PM
<cite>Nightmare82 wrote:</cite><blockquote>ich frag mich nu warum die den bezahl transfer auch weggemacht haben es gibt bestimmt leute di enicht warten können und dafür zahlen  wasn [Removed for Content] <span style="color: #ccff00">noob</span> service </blockquote>That is the only thing I was able to understand out of the entire post.

Kurindor_Mythecnea
03-02-2007, 08:03 PM
I think you all ought just transfer to Nagafen where there is no chance you will be displeased with your choice. Have heard many a story about populace despair with Venekor. <img src="/smilies/499fd50bc713bfcdf2ab5a23c00c2d62.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> haha.

Jim737
03-02-2007, 09:34 PM
<p>Finaly we are waiting I mean us from Darathar server for it like for god strike <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </p><p>I hope it will be done as soon as possible <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

Je
03-02-2007, 11:09 PM
We really do need an official statement regarding complete GUILD transfers including guild-status, please.

Arieneth
03-03-2007, 01:01 AM
not sure if it's been mentioned in this thread yet, but as much as these servers have matured over the last year, i'd welcome transfers from blue servers to pvp servers.

Eybietie
03-03-2007, 08:14 AM
<span style="color: #ffff00">i´d like to move... cant wait in fact ^^</span>

Zhephiraa
03-03-2007, 08:42 AM
<p>Hello.</p><p>I'm a frenc girl, defiler 70 Zerk 70 on gorenaire, the french server. I can't speak english, and don't want to.</p><p>So, where can i go? This is the end of the journey for me, they will never let my toon go on the other french server, storms, because it's pve.</p><p>Soe has let the french serveur die, they will now kill their player. Gratz!</p><p>Et la prochaine fois je postes en français. Quoi que, pourquoi une prochaine fois quand une regle stupide m'empeche de poursuivre en toute serenité de jouer à un jeu que j'aime? Sur eq1 le transfert de pvp vers pve etait autorisé. Pourquoi ne l'est-il plus? A bon entendeur salut! Messieurs les Devs, je ne vous salue pas.</p>

Kurindor_Mythecnea
03-03-2007, 08:45 AM
<cite>Zhephiraa wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Hello.</p><p>I'm a frenc girl, defiler 70 Zerk 70 on gorenaire, the french server. I can't speak english, and don't want to.</p><p>So, where can i go? This is the end of the journey for me, they will never let my toon go on the other french server, storms, because it's pve.</p><p>Soe has let the french serveur die, they will now kill their player. Gratz!</p><p>Et la prochaine fois je postes en français. Quoi que, pourquoi une prochaine fois quand une regle stupide m'empeche de poursuivre en toute serenité de jouer à un jeu que j'aime? Sur eq1 le transfert de pvp vers pve etait autorisé. Pourquoi ne l'est-il plus? A bon entendeur salut! Messieurs les Devs, je ne vous salue pas.</p></blockquote>Ouch. Kinda' bias and segregated in perspective, but uh, there <b><i>are</i></b> a few francophone guilds on Nagafen.

sirfrenchalot
03-03-2007, 09:10 AM
<p>To Zhephiraa</p><p>There are a few french people on Darathar too that will be moving. Might I add that french people could try to stick together and keep their comunity as a whole.</p><p></p><p>J'ai toujours joué sur les serveurs anglais parce qu'ils sont plus peuplés et honnêtement je ne penses plus que la langue pose vraiment problème. Tu devrais essayer avant de nous quitter juste pour être sur que même en jouant sur un serveur américain, cela ne change pas grand chose. De plus ton post en anglais montre une certaine maitrise de la langue....</p><p>Bah j'espère just que tu reconcidereras ta décision parce que quoiqu'il arrive tu ne sera pas la seule farnçaise....</p><p></p><p>Khep</p>

Kurindor_Mythecnea
03-03-2007, 09:14 AM
Now all they need is a Charlemagne!

Dh
03-03-2007, 01:13 PM
<p><span style="font-size: x-small"><span style="color: #00ff33"><b>I hope they aren't planning on giving Vox the shaft. How about allowing 1pp per char level to be moved with their char when transfering to Vox. Losing your cash when going to Vox isn't a big deal anyhow tbh. Plat comes easy and all of our broker prices are much cheaper than other servers.</b></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small"><span style="color: #00ff33"><b>Nosiop of Vox</b></span></span></p>

PeaSy1
03-03-2007, 03:11 PM
So me being from vox can i transfer from here to naggy? I have neverused SE but am burdened with the essentially buying of fame that happens on vox.

OnGaruda
03-04-2007, 07:43 AM
When this TRANSFER will be possible???????

ToejaM t
03-04-2007, 10:00 AM
<p>An update with a detailed post is needed.</p>

Radigazt
03-04-2007, 11:24 PM
<p>Great news, server transfers have been needed since pre-EoF I think.  I'm a Nagafen player, and Nagafen has the strongest population, but even we need more players I think.  Targets are a bit slim.  I welcome an infusion of new players, hopefully of both factions (well all 3 if you're including Exiles, but 99% of those are level 70's and I'm not really interested in T7 pvp, heh).  </p><p>If you're a good Freeport PvP'er who locks xp in T2, T3 or T4, <b><Shadow Lords></b> has a good group of players (everyone has at least one Dreadnaught) that PvP's every day.  We are mature players and we require Ventrilo.  We'd be glad to let you tag along and get to know you on Nagafen.  We're serious about our PvP, and we very very very rarely back down from a fight, routinely engaging x2 raids (with mixed success, lol).  Send me a tell on Vexxus, Vexus or Ruinn if you're interested.  </p>

Zhephiraa
03-05-2007, 06:10 AM
<p>To khepera: thanks for your kindness <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>From Vox, can i go on a pve serveur? It's hard to erase one year of a hard labour</p>

Eybietie
03-05-2007, 10:39 AM
<span style="color: #ffff00">no you can´t.</span>

Sinistria
03-05-2007, 10:49 AM
YAY. gonna move my euro-char to naggy.... do they help me to rename the naggy toon with the same name? or do i have to delete so i can keep the other (euro) name?

DarkRenown
03-05-2007, 12:23 PM
<p>OK, so we all got excited about being able to transfer from the low pop servers, which is a good thing.</p><p>We all got our guilds chatting, and talking to each other about where is everyone going, which is a good thing.</p><p>All the proposed server destinations have been chatting to the low pop servers recruiting and sharing info, which is a good thing.</p><p>So, how about telling us</p><p>When? Can we do Guild Moves?</p><p>Not much of an update is needed really, just a simple quick response.</p>

Eybietie
03-05-2007, 12:30 PM
<cite>Sinistria wrote:</cite><blockquote>YAY. gonna move my euro-char to naggy.... do they help me to rename the naggy toon with the same name? or do i have to delete so i can keep the other (euro) name? </blockquote> <span style="color: #ffff00">wenn du schon einen char auf naggi mit demselben namen hast bzw schon einer existiert, dann kannst wird dir eine fehler meldung beim transfer angezeigt mit nem kleinen feldchen, wo du dann deinen namen wunschgemaess aendern kannst ( bsp shadeXYZ oder nen ganz anderen namen ) btw server down um 16 uhr suckt nich wahr? ^^ greetz </span>

Sinistria
03-05-2007, 12:58 PM
ok, thats an easy way to change charactername. ty for your answer. ok, serverdown at 4pm sux but: i usualy work till 5 pm and i can start playing at 6 pm. hopefuly that is enough. is serverdown EVERY-day? btw, i am not sure if i realy gonna start over. i started Vanguard on ffa -server and that is way more fun then any pvp i have had in EQ2. i just like EQ2 so much. so i transfer my char just to secure its on the right server if i will ever start over again. .... hmmmm cant await to have the char there, where i should have created it one year ago.

AxemEbonlo
03-05-2007, 06:13 PM
If someone from the European server doesn't go the most logical choice (Nagafen) they're just setting themselves up for Darathar 2.0 down the line.

Naglfar
03-05-2007, 09:51 PM
<p>We're going to Venekor, but thanks to warn us <img src="/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

Eybietie
03-05-2007, 11:14 PM
<cite>AxemEbonlore wrote:</cite><blockquote>If someone from the European server doesn't go the most logical choice (Nagafen) they're just setting themselves up for Darathar 2.0 down the line. </blockquote><p> <span style="color: #ffff00">tbh i dont think this is true. i was talking to some of the people left on talendor. and somehow most of them wanna transfer to venekor. for the darathar people it seems it goes something like 50/50 ( from what i read in the forums ) once the transfers are possible we will see but atm it seems that there will be quite a good amount of fresh meat for venekor...</span></p><p><span style="color: #ffff00">@ sinistria : allmost everyday server down. </span></p>

dr4gonUK
03-06-2007, 07:13 AM
<p>I hope its days rather than weeks. <img src="/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

sirfrenchalot
03-06-2007, 07:14 AM
<p>Why would nagafen be the logical choice????</p><p>Not everyone plays the same and all have different expectations from the game...</p><p>To me Venekor seems like the logical choice, considering the way I play and how much a pvper I am.</p>

Eybietie
03-06-2007, 07:20 AM
<span style="color: #ffff00">i often hear that. it is somehow contradicted. you wanna move to a server with a higher population but you don´t wnna have so much pvp. what´s the point in moving then? not saying that you should move to naggi tho. but id like to know when you say people have different expectations of the game. what it yours? and how does it make vene to be the better choice over nagafen? i´m just curious. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> greetz</span>

dr4gonUK
03-06-2007, 07:26 AM
<p>Theres a fair few posters on Venekor forums calling for merge and talking about fighting the same faces day in day out. Reads eerily like Darathar forums from 5 months ago</p><p>Can't say the same for Nagafen. </p><p>Time will tell.</p><p>Peace.</p>

Eeling
03-06-2007, 07:32 AM
Gallenite wrote: <blockquote><p>We'll have an update for you soon with more specific ETAs on our next steps.  </p><p>Thanks very much, and good hunting.</p><p>- Scott</p></blockquote><p> Update soon please... there is no hunting atm <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Sry for "whine" .. but "soon" means 1 week, 1 month?</p>

sirfrenchalot
03-06-2007, 07:34 AM
<p>Well, I am probably going to get flamed and told to play on a pve server but in all fairness I am not a PvPer at all. I don't refuse a fight when someone attacks me, and I will rarely run (except when it is a full group that attacks me where I think it is fair enough not to stand there and wait till death). But I don't really look for fights.</p><p>I probably should have returned to pve indeed, but the thing is this toon is my main therefore my highest character and the one I spent the most time on so I don't really want to stop playing him. So rather than going to a full on pvp server like nagafen gives the impression to be, I rather go to a more chilled server like Venekor where you can still pvp but where pvp seems a little softer...</p><p>In anycase, population wise, either servers will be a HUGE difference from the euro servers. So given I don't enjoy pvp so much, I might as well choose a server where pvp seems a bit less constant and doesn't seem to get in the way of a more pve style of play.</p><p> Hope all that made sense.</p><p>I think there are several type of pvp players. The first one loves pvp and will try to find all the pvp he can. the sedon type likes pvp but will do a bit of both, the third one likes pvp because it adds an extra degree of realism into the RP aspect of the game and enjoys the threat of being attacked anytime but really rathers pve. And I belong to the third type... Meaning I find pve server boring when I go back there because I miss that threat... </p><p>I think I answered your question... and honestly to each his own attent from the game. </p>

sprogn
03-06-2007, 07:48 AM
Much as I hate to say it, I think people above are right.  Unless SoE spends some serious cash marketing EQ2 PVP, I wouldn't transfer anywhere except Naggy.  That's where my 4 Darathar toons are going to join the Beserker I started there last December...

Eybietie
03-06-2007, 08:01 AM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote><p>Well, I am probably going to get flamed and told to play on a pve server but in all fairness I am not a PvPer at all. I don't refuse a fight when someone attacks me, and I will rarely run (except when it is a full group that attacks me where I think it is fair enough not to stand there and wait till death). But I don't really look for fights.</p><p>I probably should have returned to pve indeed, but the thing is this toon is my main therefore my highest character and the one I spent the most time on so I don't really want to stop playing him. So rather than going to a full on pvp server like nagafen gives the impression to be, I rather go to a more chilled server like Venekor where you can still pvp but where pvp seems a little softer...</p><p>In anycase, population wise, either servers will be a HUGE difference from the euro servers. So given I don't enjoy pvp so much, I might as well choose a server where pvp seems a bit less constant and doesn't seem to get in the way of a more pve style of play.</p><p> Hope all that made sense.</p><p>I think there are several type of pvp players. The first one loves pvp and will try to find all the pvp he can. the sedon type likes pvp but will do a bit of both, the third one likes pvp because it adds an extra degree of realism into the RP aspect of the game and enjoys the threat of being attacked anytime but really rathers pve. And I belong to the third type... Meaning I find pve server boring when I go back there because I miss that threat... </p><p>I think I answered your question... and honestly to each his own attent from the game. </p></blockquote><span style="color: #ffff00">ok that makes somehow sense. but you know on vene it is the same like on naggi only during eu times it is somehow quiet... which will change since many people on talendor feel the same way you do and choose vene. good times for vene from what i read... <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></span>

Sinistria
03-06-2007, 08:04 AM
main reason for nagafen: he is the coolest dragon in EQ2 ever! and the first one i killed in my first raid. omg, that was work. looging out to chat room to not loose the buffs. no group buffs, all had to regroup for buffs and regroup over and over again. then all log back in and regroup. that was one of my most impressive experiences in onlinetime. thats why nagafen <img src="/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

ToejaM t
03-06-2007, 08:29 AM
You're taking the [Removed for Content] again SOE.

pinkchicky
03-06-2007, 11:09 AM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote>[email protected] wrote: <blockquote><p>Come one and all to Vox.   <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Don't be intimidated by the Station Exchange.  I've been on the server for less than a year, never used the SE, but i'm still very well off.</p><p>and our economies are way better than nagafen, especially on the Q side! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Vox Qeynos beckons you all!!!!!</p></blockquote><p> I'll be very honest with you.... Vox and Station Exchange doesn't seem a very good choice. Basically as EU citizens, we won't be able to use the Station Exchange feature. More over, as I understand it from Gallenite's post, if we were to transfer there we would still lose items and money as it is the case when you transfer to a SE enabled server.... which wouldn't be the case for nagafen or venekor.....</p><p>It seems like a no win situation to me :s</p></blockquote>I'm<b> Canadian</b> and I can not buy or sell on the station exchange.<b> I've been on Vox since I started PvP</b>. It really isn't hard to get what you need without using the exchange service. If you can hook up with a good guild or people when you get to Vox, I'm sure people are willing to help..but that's just my opinion and I've had no problems not being able to use the service that is provided to US residents. It's actually a pretty good server with alot of great people, we just need more to come over to Vox.

TSall
03-06-2007, 11:24 AM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote><p>Well, I am probably going to get flamed and told to play on a pve server but in all fairness I am not a PvPer at all. I don't refuse a fight when someone attacks me, and I will rarely run (except when it is a full group that attacks me where I think it is fair enough not to stand there and wait till death). But I don't really look for fights.</p><p>I probably should have returned to pve indeed, but the thing is this toon is my main therefore my highest character and the one I spent the most time on so I don't really want to stop playing him. So rather than going to a full on pvp server like nagafen gives the impression to be, I rather go to a more chilled server like Venekor where you can still pvp but where pvp seems a little softer...</p><p>In anycase, population wise, either servers will be a HUGE difference from the euro servers. So given I don't enjoy pvp so much, I might as well choose a server where pvp seems a bit less constant and doesn't seem to get in the way of a more pve style of play.</p><p> Hope all that made sense.</p><p>I think there are several type of pvp players. The first one loves pvp and will try to find all the pvp he can. the sedon type likes pvp but will do a bit of both, the third one likes pvp because it adds an extra degree of realism into the RP aspect of the game and enjoys the threat of being attacked anytime but really rathers pve. And I belong to the third type... Meaning I find pve server boring when I go back there because I miss that threat... </p><p>I think I answered your question... and honestly to each his own attent from the game. </p></blockquote><p>I think you right there mate.</p><p>Also, we should consider that Venekor wouldnt be so <i>empty when the 3 EU-pvp servers have moved to US, and defenetly NOT Nagafen.</i></p>

Greeen-_-Ranger
03-06-2007, 12:27 PM
<img src="http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o39/amirusthegreat/vox.jpg" border="0">

Leorange
03-06-2007, 12:29 PM
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sirfrenchalot
03-06-2007, 12:34 PM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote>[email protected] wrote: <blockquote>[email protected] wrote: <blockquote><p>Come one and all to Vox.   <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Don't be intimidated by the Station Exchange.  I've been on the server for less than a year, never used the SE, but i'm still very well off.</p><p>and our economies are way better than nagafen, especially on the Q side! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Vox Qeynos beckons you all!!!!!</p></blockquote><p> I'll be very honest with you.... Vox and Station Exchange doesn't seem a very good choice. Basically as EU citizens, we won't be able to use the Station Exchange feature. More over, as I understand it from Gallenite's post, if we were to transfer there we would still lose items and money as it is the case when you transfer to a SE enabled server.... which wouldn't be the case for nagafen or venekor.....</p><p>It seems like a no win situation to me :s</p></blockquote>I'm<b> Canadian</b> and I can not buy or sell on the station exchange.<b> I've been on Vox since I started PvP</b>. It really isn't hard to get what you need without using the exchange service. If you can hook up with a good guild or people when you get to Vox, I'm sure people are willing to help..but that's just my opinion and I've had no problems not being able to use the service that is provided to US residents. It's actually a pretty good server with alot of great people, we just need more to come over to Vox. </blockquote><p>I really don't want to shatter your hopes, I know it wouldn't make much difference to start a new character on a SE server or not, but as to bring a character to vox I really am not sure it is a good idea. If I was to transfer to Vox, I would lose ALL my belongings and my money.... Why would I want to do that???? So I can play on a server with a service I can't use?</p><p>Starting a toon there is one thing, moving there with my existing toon and losing any tradable items and all the money I have in game really doesn't come as an option for me. For instance, I spent a fair number of plats getting my house equiped with status reduction items.... Since furniture are tradeable and probably can be sold on a SE server for real money, I would lose all those object and start of on a server with a huge status rent, and no money to reduce it.... Really doesn't sound like a good "restart" to me. I probably could buy the items with real life money, granted, but then why would I want to do that if I had them before moving???</p><p>Hope all that makes sense.... Honestly, a SE server doesn't hold any advantage for people looking at moving their characters once the movelogs go live.</p><p>I am not worried aboput getting what I want without using SE, I am worried about losing what I already have... given I am already losing friends (people who will be going to nagafen), guild level and my server, I don't really want to make that experience even worse.</p><p>Sorry mate. </p>

Sinistria
03-06-2007, 12:38 PM
this kind of roleplaying: ---> <a href="http://www.thenoobcomic.com/daily/strip010.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.thenoobcomic.com/daily/strip010.html</a> noooo me goes nagafen <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

pinkchicky
03-06-2007, 02:00 PM
<cite>Greeen-_-Ranger wrote:</cite><blockquote><img src="/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><img src="/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><img src="/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Magiclord
03-06-2007, 04:44 PM
When is it going to happen the transfer ? and how can you change from pvp server to another i have only seen that u can transfer from pve server to another ?

Bozidar
03-06-2007, 04:51 PM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote>When is it going to happen the transfer ? and how can you change from pvp server to another i have only seen that u can transfer from pve server to another ? </blockquote><p> soon any european player can transfer off of their euro server to any pvp american server for free.</p><p>players on nagafen and venekor will be able to transfer to either nagafen or venekor for $50, or to Vox for free if they lose all of their dropped gear and their gold.</p>

Tannin
03-06-2007, 05:42 PM
<p>VOX is a good server with a good economy. </p><p>Anyone who transfers there will be very happy. </p><p>If you cant buy on exchange because your in EU or Canada you can always have a US friend buy and pay them back with Paypal, happens all the time on VOX. And you dont get your account BANNED!!!</p><p>The fact is exchange only allows you to buy one thing for your account that cannot be bought on other servers and that is a character/toon. <span style="color: #ff0000">The rest, Plat, Items etc. people ALREADY buy EVERY day on ALL the other servers from illegitimate sources resulting in rip offs and huge delays in delivery with the risk of getting banned if Sony catches you. </span>IF you buy plat or a toon on exchange it's in your character select or mailbox in about 30 seconds! That is crazy! </p><p>So what's the big risk with that? What you could run into a level 70 noob? Big deal don't group with them and they won't survive in a guild anyway and will end up quitting or selling. And you already run into those people when friends give accounts to others or kids play parents accounts etc. </p><p>Here is another scenario you have a great group of people in a guild and your missing one thing like a crafter or a tank (SK's all over on pvp but to raid you need a Guard or zerker) on exchange you can get what you need to raid fast instead of sitting around wishing you could level a tank etc to 70 in a day or without risking Sony finding out your bought a account and banning it. </p><p>Having been on PVE non exchange and PVP exchange servers there is very little difference other than the pvp/pve difference. Come to VOX and get ganked by some of the best pvp players in the game</p><p><img src="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/signature?characterId=536126121" border="0"></p>

Sinistria
03-07-2007, 04:17 AM
i dont care for economies. i dont buy stuff for real or ingame money. i never have ingame money that is. i am a poor woman. i craft my food on my own. i prefer going to raids / groups / quests for good items. i wonder why so many people talk about buying stuff and so on. i never needed that. i i i i i i i i am a goooodess i am uber <img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> i ask serious: can someone tell me why so many people want to buy (legal or illegal) items/plat for REAL money? you got to much money?

Agamennone
03-07-2007, 07:57 AM
<p>sorry if i repeat something someone has already asked for, and sorry for my english. will be possible, moving character from darathar, to keep my coin and my items? my spells will be downgraded to apprentice? is peraphs possible to pay a little difference and have that option with "item transfer"? ty all <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Agamennone</p><p> Conjurer of Darathar</p>

Norrsken
03-07-2007, 08:02 AM
<cite>Sinistria wrote:</cite><blockquote>i dont care for economies. i dont buy stuff for real or ingame money. i never have ingame money that is. i am a poor woman. i craft my food on my own. i prefer going to raids / groups / quests for good items. i wonder why so many people talk about buying stuff and so on. i never needed that. i i i i i i i i am a goooodess i am uber <img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <b> i ask serious: can someone tell me why so many people want to buy (legal or illegal) items/plat for REAL money? you got to much money? </b> </blockquote>instant gratification

Zhephiraa
03-07-2007, 08:23 AM
<p>Having been on PVE non exchange and PVP exchange servers there is very little difference other than the pvp/pve difference. Come to VOX and get ganked by some of the best pvp players in the game</p><hr /><p>Always sorry for the bad english that incoming..</p><p>OMG! Buy a hat before your head explose, it's too big yet.</p><p>I've been on beta server, playing with nagafen and venekor people. I'am not afraid about their skill!! <img src="/smilies/49869fe8223507d7223db3451e5321aa.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>But, when you're on Vox, you can sell or give your toon? From Vox, no transfer to pve?</p><p>i know, this is a heavy way to ask, but i'am asking in the desert...I want mister Scott to roll a toon on a french server, and know about his feeling. And may be, he will let somme people stay on a french server, even if it's a pve one... (Cry cry cry)</p>

Tannin
03-07-2007, 01:14 PM
<b><p><b>Sinistria</b> to answer your question why would anyone buy plat? The same reason someone buys food or armor or any other craft item rather than do it themselves I don't like to craft so I buy it from crafters. Rather than run around raising cash I just buy a plat or two, buy my food and drink for the week or some adept III spell upgrades if the masters cost too much and I'm off to the races having fun with friends on VOX. It's all about what you're willing to spend on the game. Why pay 14.00+ a month to play a game when you can buy one that does not require a subscription. Because you Sinistria have made up your mind that you are willing to do that to have fun. Just like I am willing to buy plat to get my crafted items rather than craft them myself. There are a whole bunch of people who think you are crazy to pay to play a subscription game. We all have limits. At least on VOX you have an option that will not get you in trouble with Sony if you decide to buy something rather than grind for weeks with no luck trying to get something.</p></b>

Radigazt
03-07-2007, 01:59 PM
<p>Honestly, it isn't brain surgery.  Look at how many people complain about low population on their server or request server merges.  Nagafen players aren't complaining about server population like those on Venekor or the Euro servers are.  The reason is because Nagafen still has a very healthy population, the biggest PvP server by far.  I'm a Nagafen player, and one thing keeping our server population healthy is that every month we get another influx of people from the other servers (Venekor mostly it seems) that re-roll on Nagafen to get more targets.  I can't speak for the populations on other servers, but the things that I usually hear from those rerolling on Nagafen are always "we see more PvP activity in one day on Nagafen then I usually see in a week/month on my old server" and "My only regret is that I couldn't move over my level ## character, I've invested so much time into him."  So, it seems that a server transfer would be an ideal situation for anyone not happy at their current server.  Come to Nagafen ... trust me, you'll be glad you did.  If you're a very serious PvP'er, the choice is clearly Nagafen.  You don't see everyone on Nagafen begging for a merge ... they're too busy PvP'ing.  I haven't heard of other posters leaving Nagafen to reroll on any other servers, because I think they realize that they've got it pretty good on Nagafen.  </p><p>Heck, on most servers there has been such little PvP that people have locked xp at the lower tiers and twinked out just to get the PvP action more consistently.  If you're the person whose always wishing there were more targets, or wondering why you can only find PvP at certain times of the day, come to Nagafen and you'll be pleasantly surprised with how much PvP exists on Nagafen.  </p><p>Look, if you're a casual player who really enjoys PvE primarily but wants the occasional and casual PvP, do NOT come to Nagafen, because you'll be ganked constantly.  This isn't the casual mix of 90% PvE and 10% PvP you're looking for, so don't stress yourself out with forcing it.  But, if you're serious about PvP'ing, it makes the most sense to go to the biggest and strongest PvP culture, Nagafen.  If you're a Freeporter, msg me in-game on <b>Vexxus</b>, <b>Vexus</b> or <b>Ruinn</b>, and I'll help you get adjusted.  </p>

Kurindor_Mythecnea
03-07-2007, 04:25 PM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote><b><p><b>Sinistria</b> to answer your question why would anyone buy plat? The same reason someone buys food or armor or any other craft item rather than do it themselves I don't like to craft so I buy it from crafters. Rather than run around raising cash I just buy a plat or two, buy my food and drink for the week or some adept III spell upgrades if the masters cost too much and I'm off to the races having fun with friends on VOX. It's all about what you're willing to spend on the game. Why pay 14.00+ a month to play a game when you can buy one that does not require a subscription. Because you Sinistria have made up your mind that you are willing to do that to have fun. Just like I am willing to buy plat to get my crafted items rather than craft them myself. There are a whole bunch of people who think you are crazy to pay to play a subscription game. We all have limits. At least on VOX you have an option that will not get you in trouble with Sony if you decide to buy something rather than grind for weeks with no luck trying to get something.</p></b></blockquote> Lol. The point is that if you haven't earned it in-game, <b><i>you don't deserve it</i></b>. This is a whole other economy and why it is allowed to be interfered with stands only as a company's outlet for further monetary gain. So many people buy MMORPG currency they would never disclude the attainment of such based upon the principle of the concept.

Phayrow
03-07-2007, 06:05 PM
<p>Yeah buying plat is for the weak.</p><p>If you are not in a position to continually buy plat/items/accounts with real $$ then you fall behind.  It's bloody easy to make money in game and you don't have to craft to do it.  Vox is for the lazy imo.  </p>

KaelVolorus
03-08-2007, 12:39 AM
<p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=351481" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=351481</a></p><p> Looks like we're gonna have some downtime on Tuesday.  Perhaps its to put in the transfer mechanic?</p>

Eybietie
03-08-2007, 12:53 AM
<p><span style="color: #ffff00">i really cross fingers <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></span></p>

dr4gonUK
03-08-2007, 03:41 AM
Here's hoping.

Sinistria
03-08-2007, 05:05 AM
/throws herself into dirt and praises to SOE-gods

OnGaruda
03-08-2007, 05:26 AM
Q_Q

kukubird
03-08-2007, 07:51 AM
There are tons of reasons to go to vox.. and tons of reasons to not go to vox.   EVERYONE will have an opinion and think it is the one and only correct opinion of course. Fact is... you can get plat on vox if you really want it.. by buying it or having a guild friend etc... ... ( at least you have an option that will not get you banned ). Fact 2.  Who knows if they will ever open station exchange to other countries besides the U.S. ?  Currently I geuss it is not on the plate.  HOWEVER, I believe it will eventually come.... and then what?  Isn't it nice to be able to sell of your stuff you accumulated... having fun over the year for a grand or 2?  OK IN MY BOOK!  again, legally.... Fact 3.  Vox has a great economy .... what is a better motivator then real life money to keep those brokers stocked?  You want to make plat easy? farm adepts and put em up lol.. will get bought fast by a transmuter<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Yes, you don't need to buy plat... BUT AGAIN,  isn't the option nice?  Legally?  I could go on... and yes.. these types of servers are not for everyone.  People that hate people buying stuff for real life money should be HAPPY AS HECK they have these servers to keep people of theirs........ AND for those that like to spend 50.00 to save 50 hours of tedious in game work..... SMART.   Make 50 bucks in real life an hou?  Why the heck wouldn't you enjoy the game and do what we are all on these servers for? PVP!  Spend a few bucks.. don't do all that crafting or gathering .. get out and PVP! Well, to me VOX is the best server going .... we have people that buy plat.. we have people that don't buy plat... our server has a very healthy economy... and will continue to do so... WE have extremely good and pationate pvpers..... I can't imagine not having options out there..... Excuse me sir.. would you like to buy this car and finance it for 10 years with zero option to buy a new one, upgrade it, or sell it?    OR  would you like the option for ZERO cost more?   hmmmmm... think i will take the option bob, where i can sell this car back to you in a year for a grand more then i paid <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Call me crazy. Vox - Great server.... with more people... it will only get better....

ToejaM t
03-08-2007, 08:08 AM
*yawn at the "come to my server please, this isnt a desperate plee to turn you away" comments all the time* No official word still just a coincedence post?

Valdar
03-08-2007, 09:35 AM
I hope they take their time, i'm not 70 yet <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Tannin
03-08-2007, 01:05 PM
Sigh, saying buying plat is for the weak is like saying joining a guild is for the weak because you cant do it on your own. Notice Seliri has 4000+ kills and is lvl locked? So your lvl locked, of course you dont need plat. You dont need anything your locked! With 4000+ kills as a SK( ie [Removed for Content] tank) i suspect you roll with a gank squad to survive. Any noob can lvl lock and PT for the win over and over. Boring  And talk about earning it? you lvl locked for the win because you cant hang leveling with the big boys. Easy to talk crap when you lvl lock and fully twink your toon. Lvl locking sucks and seems very boring to me, its like EQ2 pvp on easy mode because its to hard to lvl up.

Bozidar
03-08-2007, 01:24 PM
<p>everyone at lvl 70 is a "level locker".  you only go to 70th so you can make easy money and never have to face a character who's higher than white conn to you.</p><p>Hey, look, i made stupid and presumptious comments too!!! woot!</p>

Eybietie
03-08-2007, 01:31 PM
<cite>kukubird wrote:</cite><blockquote>There are tons of reasons to go to vox.. and tons of reasons to not go to vox.   EVERYONE will have an opinion and think it is the one and only correct opinion of course. Fact is... you can get plat on vox if you really want it.. by buying it or having a guild friend etc... ... ( at least you have an option that will not get you banned ). Fact 2.  Who knows if they will ever open station exchange to other countries besides the U.S. ?  Currently I geuss it is not on the plate.  HOWEVER, I believe it will eventually come.... and then what?  Isn't it nice to be able to sell of your stuff you accumulated... having fun over the year for a grand or 2?  OK IN MY BOOK!  again, legally.... Fact 3.  Vox has a great economy .... what is a better motivator then real life money to keep those brokers stocked?  You want to make plat easy? farm adepts and put em up lol.. will get bought fast by a transmuter<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Yes, you don't need to buy plat... BUT AGAIN,  isn't the option nice?  Legally?  I could go on... and yes.. these types of servers are not for everyone.  People that hate people buying stuff for real life money should be HAPPY AS HECK they have these servers to keep people of theirs........ AND for those that like to spend 50.00 to save 50 hours of tedious in game work..... SMART.   Make 50 bucks in real life an hou?  Why the heck wouldn't you enjoy the game and do what we are all on these servers for? PVP!  Spend a few bucks.. don't do all that crafting or gathering .. get out and PVP! Well, to me VOX is the best server going .... we have people that buy plat.. we have people that don't buy plat... our server has a very healthy economy... and will continue to do so... WE have extremely good and pationate pvpers..... I can't imagine not having options out there..... Excuse me sir.. would you like to buy this car and finance it for 10 years with zero option to buy a new one, upgrade it, or sell it?    OR  would you like the option for ZERO cost more?   hmmmmm... think i will take the option bob, where i can sell this car back to you in a year for a grand more then i paid <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Call me crazy. Vox - Great server.... with more people... it will only get better.... </blockquote><span style="color: #ffff00">seriously - no one even thinks about moving to vox. i don´t mean to flame you guys but - it is the european player who can freely move - and they are not allowed to even buy/ sell w/e. us player who want to make real life money out of this game are allready on this server. people on nagafen, venekor allready made their decision.... </span>

Sinistria
03-08-2007, 01:31 PM
the 2 bigest mistakes SOE ever made in EQ2 (wich is a nice game) is: levelocking zone-immunity its easymode easymode takes the fun. but, i have to live with it in hope SOE is getting wiser one day ... lvl locking at 70.... the reason to hit 70 is you are stronger then others. right. you can hunt mobs only for loot, you dont need to throw away again. why do that on lvl 20 if the loot is nicer in lvl 70 plus: zones usualy look nicer in highlvl and the difficulty-lvl for hunting down epic mobs is much higher. if you lvl lock in lvl 20 you have nothuing to loose. since you dont want to gain lvl. others who dont lvl lock has it harder since they want to have progress. but who cares. in the end they will be outleveled and are just the salt in the soup for other people who want the competetion to gain lvl not in easy mode. EQ2 is a great game. SOE just listen to much to easymode-mainstream-gamers. nobody forces us to play it and so we should just accept it and play or stop and leave

Radigazt
03-08-2007, 01:43 PM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote>Sigh, saying buying plat is for the weak is like saying joining a guild is for the weak because you cant do it on your own. Notice Seliri has 4000+ kills and is lvl locked? So your lvl locked, of course you dont need plat. You dont need anything your locked! With 4000+ kills as a SK( ie [Removed for Content] tank) i suspect you roll with a gank squad to survive. Any noob can lvl lock and PT for the win over and over. Boring  And talk about earning it? you lvl locked for the win because you cant hang leveling with the big boys. Easy to talk crap when you lvl lock and fully twink your toon. Lvl locking sucks and seems very boring to me, its like EQ2 pvp on easy mode because its to hard to lvl up.</blockquote><p> Tannin, I think you've got it all wrong about level locking.  As Bozidar mentioned, every level 70 is faaaaaaaar more twinked out than a level locker, and his bread and butter is ganking green cons with craptastic gear grinding to level up.  Heck, the toughest foes are white cons ... lotta challenge there, lol.  On top of that, they have the raid pvp mentality where it's nearly impossible to solo pvp unless you're a Predator or Rogue.  Most of the so called "good PvPers" run around in large groups or raids almost all the time rarely taking any chances.  Miracles everywhere too.  There are no PvP gear sets at any tier except T7.  The raid gear is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than the Mastercrafted in T7, and the PvP gear is even better than that!  </p><p>If you want a challenge, lock at a level where you can be constantly hounded by groups of orange cons and have the decision whether to engage red cons.  Instead of rolling around in your x2 or x4 feeling strong, roll in a single group and hunt groups of yellow cons (my primary targets).  The thing about twinking in the lower tiers, is that it's not that hard to do, and so there are a lot of people doing it.  That means lots of good strong targets.  I see it all the time, we dominate a certain group from the other side, they realize they're not going to beat us, so they level up 2 more levels and become orange to us.  The point is, they adjust until the fights are fairly even.  </p><p>Hey, you want level locked PvP at level 70 ... that's your choice.  But, dont' act like level 70 is a magic number or something; and don't act like you're not level locked there.  Until you're consistently facing orange cons and taking down red cons, don't expect level lockers to be impressed with you simply because you grinded up to level 70.  Honestly, it's rather obvious you are just boasting and/or trying to get more people up to your tier to PvP.  Sounds like to me that you have a lack of PvP targets in T7.  Maybe you should consider rolling an alt to PvP where all the targets are ... level locked at the lower levels, rofl.  </p>

Radigazt
03-08-2007, 01:47 PM
You know what would be the funniest thing ever?  Seeing some of these people who dislike level locking mandatorily lock at level 62 for a few months.  Then they'd constantly see the orange cons like the other level lockers, and they'd get to tell us how wonderful T7 PvP is from the perspective of the green con.  I must admit, I would love to see something like that.  <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Bozidar
03-08-2007, 02:01 PM
<p>Yeah, i hadn't thought about it, but if you bring a toon over to Vox, even without gear, you can still make money off selling that toon.</p><p>Maybe some established player who can buy or aquire gear for a toon and just wants your twinked out lvl 70 with 100 AA toon to fool around with?</p><p>Come to vox, and sell him if you don't want him?  Beats quitting the game and letting them die.</p>

ToejaM t
03-08-2007, 02:26 PM
Tick tock, tick tock..

Tannin
03-08-2007, 04:21 PM
After a little thought on the subject I can see why diehard pvp'rs lvl lock a range. Lots of reasons, number available targets being one of many. I guess the difference for me on VOX is I dont just PVP I like to do the quests and raid and PVP. I actaully cant imagine playing on a PVE server any more because of the lack of excitement that potential pvp encounters brings. I logged onto a toon I have on Nek and just sat there bored realizing I was not at risk and non of the people around me where available targets. I have not played on Naga but it occurs to me there must be alot of zerging going on, would that be a correct assumption?

Sinistria
03-08-2007, 04:53 PM
zerging means lots of risk, so lots of fun <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

OnGaruda
03-10-2007, 04:54 PM
neeeeeeews?

ToejaM t
03-11-2007, 04:41 PM
Come on really SOE this is a [Removed for Content] joke now. MORE INFORMATION.

EQ2Playa432
03-11-2007, 10:19 PM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote>Come on really SOE this is a [I cannot control my vocabulary] joke now. MORE INFORMATION. </blockquote>Really...this is getting ridiculous.

dr4gonUK
03-12-2007, 02:52 AM
<p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=351481" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=351481</a></p>

Wizzzzard
03-12-2007, 08:05 AM
Maybe there will be some news when there shut up some people and stop flaming each other like little WoW-children. It's horrible to read this ridiculous posts about buying plants, going to Nagafen, recruiting guys for Vox. There are many guys on Talendor who don't even wanna think about Talendor is getting closed. Talendor is a good server and I'm gonna stay until there is switched the power button. Don't wanna go to one of your ganky kiddie server, where you mustn't think about going out of qeynos without x4 Raid. There is a very nice advantage in playing on a "underpopulated" PvP Server. And this is called: Casual-PvP I dont like it to get killed nearly every minute just as I won't play everytime my Darkelf Swashbuckler (Traiiiit000r, omg) to get rid of those nerved Ganky-"Wicked!!" guys. So... Dear SOE, please! We need some News... I wanna know if I have sell my game or not. (You don't think I will play this game on a german PvE or Internat. PvP, do you?)

Eybietie
03-12-2007, 10:07 AM
<cite>Wizzzzard wrote:</cite><blockquote>Maybe there will be some news when there shut up some people and stop flaming each other like little WoW-children. It's horrible to read this ridiculous posts about buying plants, going to Nagafen, recruiting guys for Vox. There are many guys on Talendor who don't even wanna think about Talendor is getting closed. Talendor is a good server and I'm gonna stay until there is switched the power button. Don't wanna go to one of your ganky kiddie server, where you mustn't think about going out of qeynos without x4 Raid. There is a very nice advantage in playing on a "underpopulated" PvP Server. And this is called: Casual-PvP I dont like it to get killed nearly every minute just as I won't play everytime my Darkelf Swashbuckler (Traiiiit000r, omg) to get rid of those nerved Ganky-"Wicked!!" guys. So... Dear SOE, please! We need some News... I wanna know if I have sell my game or not. (You don't think I will play this game on a german PvE or Internat. PvP, do you?) </blockquote> <span style="color: #ffff00">yeah - casual-pvp with some noobs who don´t know how to fight - that is what you like. imo you really should sell *your gme* how about you just play on valor or innovation again? you can have your *casual-pvp* before your raids then. /duel 4tehwin. casual pvp - [Removed for Content]... and you know what? it´s ok. you telling poeple who actually wanna pvp on a populated server where there is also a chance that you don´t pawn the last 12 people in qeynos over and over that they are ganker, wow-kids and whatnot. that of course is very mature too <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> i hope you <strike>can</strike> stay on talendor.. forever.</span>

OnGaruda
03-12-2007, 10:08 AM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote><p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=351481" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=351481</a></p></blockquote> This is the update for Free transfer?

ToejaM t
03-12-2007, 10:44 AM
No-one knows Garuda and thats what we want to know instead of being left in the dark.

Bozidar
03-12-2007, 10:52 AM
<cite>Wizzzzard wrote:</cite><blockquote>There is a very nice advantage in playing on a "underpopulated" PvP Server. And this is called: Casual-PvP </blockquote>I'm pretty sure there are underpopulated zones even on the highest population servers.

Norrsken
03-12-2007, 10:54 AM
<cite>Bozidar wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Wizzzzard wrote:</cite><blockquote>There is a very nice advantage in playing on a "underpopulated" PvP Server. And this is called: Casual-PvP </blockquote>I'm pretty sure there are underpopulated zones even on the highest population servers.</blockquote>Oh yes. Any of the EoF zones are vacant on naggy.

KaelVolorus
03-12-2007, 02:36 PM
This needs to be addressed, SOE.

Wizzzzard
03-13-2007, 06:20 AM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote> <span style="color: #ffff00">yeah - casual-pvp with some noobs who don´t know how to fight - that is what you like. imo you really should sell *your gme* how about you just play on valor or innovation again? you can have your *casual-pvp* before your raids then. /duel 4tehwin. casual pvp - [Removed for Content]... and you know what? it´s ok. you telling poeple who actually wanna pvp on a populated server where there is also a chance that you don´t pawn the last 12 people in qeynos over and over that they are ganker, wow-kids and whatnot. that of course is very mature too <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> i hope you <strike>can</strike> stay on talendor.. forever.</span></blockquote> Ouuuuuuh, ya know what I mean? Yep! This little flaming bas***** (I didn't even think of writing it, did I?) like U! Isn't Venekor the server where this addicted little children mutual beat up their a**es? U shall go, get some fresh air, and stop flaming. *strokinglittleUbor* I see that you can't read correctly, and what you can read, you can't understand. Hm, lets see, casual-pvp... what could that mean? Sneaking around, like everyone else, and beat up some rattongas, without they have seen me. And then go and finish some quests, without beeing pwned by a x4 Raidgroup <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Let's see what the problem is, with /duel... humm... let me guess. This little anoying message, that I wanna to kill him, and if he agrees with that. Hey Ubor... please... go home and gank you populated Venekor players, but stop posting this sh** here... @ SOE: Information?

Agamennone
03-13-2007, 08:57 AM
at the moment, servers and EQII Character Account and Server Transfer Service are down .. peaphs .. peraphs .. Aga

Eybietie
03-13-2007, 10:17 AM
<cite>Wizzzzard wrote:</cite><blockquote>[email protected] wrote: <blockquote> <span style="color: #ffff00">yeah - casual-pvp with some noobs who don´t know how to fight - that is what you like. imo you really should sell *your gme* how about you just play on valor or innovation again? you can have your *casual-pvp* before your raids then. /duel 4tehwin. casual pvp - [Removed for Content]... and you know what? it´s ok. you telling poeple who actually wanna pvp on a populated server where there is also a chance that you don´t pawn the last 12 people in qeynos over and over that they are ganker, wow-kids and whatnot. that of course is very mature too <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> i hope you <strike>can</strike> stay on talendor.. forever.</span></blockquote> I see that you can't read correctly, and what you can read, you can't understand. Hm, lets see, casual-pvp... what could that mean? Sneaking around, like everyone else, and beat up some rattongas, without they have seen me. And then go and finish some quests, without beeing pwned by a x4 Raidgroup <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </blockquote>[Removed for Content]. if on of the 33 *rattongas* of freeport is afk you might be able to pwn him. the raidgroup thing just shows how much information you lack for your assumptions. actually i can say for myself what the population is like on talendor, venekor and nagafen. and as a matter of fact i played on your side ( qe ) and on freeport on talendor so i know 95% of the remaining people are cowards like you stading 95% of the time in qe harbour. agn - i rly dont give a cr4p. you dont even have the ballz to say your name... what was it like... ah nameless scrub. good.. hunting [Removed for Content]

God'sKeeper
03-13-2007, 10:25 AM
Guys too much ppl on Nagafen ! Everybody Twinked ! Anybody knows if Venekor is ok?Has ppl there? And about Lag ? In darathar i have no lag ! At Nagafen !I have little lag !Is this because of the much ppl,or because i am from Non US place ! - <b>Destroyer Mikas The Dedicated</b> -           <b>62 Level Conjuror                  Darathar </b>

Darkor
03-13-2007, 11:34 AM
God'sKeeper wrote: <blockquote>Guys too much ppl on Nagafen ! Everybody Twinked ! Anybody knows if Venekor is ok?Has ppl there? And about Lag ? In darathar i have no lag ! At Nagafen !I have little lag !Is this because of the much ppl,or because i am from Non US place ! - <b>Destroyer Mikas The Dedicated</b> -           <b>62 Level Conjuror                  Darathar </b> </blockquote><p>Mikas,</p><p>infamy farming Qeynos Cowards who flee back to Qeynos as soon as they have won once belong to Nagafen and not Venekor. </p>

Eybietie
03-13-2007, 11:55 AM
<p><span style="color: #ffff00">helloooohooo ^^</span></p><p><span style="color: #ffff00">nagafen and venekor both have those fame [Removed for Content]....on venekor it is just plain dead population during eu times. rest is the same.</span></p>

God'sKeeper
03-13-2007, 12:34 PM
Noob wrote: <blockquote> <p>Mikas,</p> <p>infamy farming Qeynos Cowards who flee back to Qeynos as soon as they have won once belong to Nagafen and not Venekor.</p> </blockquote>LOLOL RASIEL 63 level noob necromancer ! Tryed to become Destroyer but Deranked to hunter ! LOLOL ! Duel me !U ll die again! LOL Thas why i Love EQ2 !

Eybietie
03-13-2007, 12:42 PM
<span style="color: #ffff00">that is why i love titles...</span> <img src="/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

OnGaruda
03-13-2007, 03:04 PM
Sorry, i don't understand english very well... Free Transfer is not able yet? someone now have news about it?

Eybietie
03-13-2007, 03:21 PM
no date when you are able to transfer. german community mod said their accounting dept. has to do something first - w/e this is....

KaelVolorus
03-13-2007, 03:37 PM
I was hoping that the server downtime today would have something to do with it, but apparently not. Also, I've called them again, thinking maybe there was an off-chance that they'd be able to do it manually after this downtime, but the service is still unavailable for PVP servers, and the CSR I spoke to was unable to give me any ETA as to when it would be available. Damnit.

Jaggid
03-13-2007, 03:43 PM
God'sKeeper wrote: <blockquote>Guys too much ppl on Nagafen ! Everybody Twinked ! Anybody knows if Venekor is ok?Has ppl there? And about Lag ? In darathar i have no lag ! At Nagafen !I have little lag !Is this because of the much ppl,or because i am from Non US place ! - <b>Destroyer Mikas The Dedicated</b> -           <b>62 Level Conjuror                  Darathar </b> </blockquote> All US PvP servers, unless new, have a bunch of lower lvl'ed twinks and I mean EVERYONE of them.  Vox has the lowest population and the best PvP.

Eybietie
03-13-2007, 05:22 PM
<p><span style="color: #ffff00">yeah vox has the advantage of casual pvp too then?</span></p>

Eeling
03-14-2007, 07:57 AM
Gallenite wrote: <blockquote><p>We'll have an update for you soon with more specific ETAs on our next steps.  </p><p>Thanks very much, and good hunting.</p><p>- Scott</p></blockquote><p> 2 weeks counting..............</p><p>It doesn't feel like "soon" ... thanks.</p>

ToejaM t
03-14-2007, 04:17 PM
<img src="/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> You just gotta laugh really, you just gotta laugh.

Je
03-15-2007, 09:13 AM
An official update in regards to the future character transfer would be very much appreciated. Additionally, SOE's stance on complete guild transfers has not been stated yet. Please keep us informed - in a timely fashion.

Titan-X
03-15-2007, 02:28 PM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote>An official update in regards to the future character transfer would be very much appreciated. Additionally, SOE's stance on complete guild transfers has not been stated yet. Please keep us informed - in a timely fashion. </blockquote> <span style="color: #cc0000">Yes SOE, you have been accountable to us up to this point..laugh</span>

God'sKeeper
03-18-2007, 11:54 AM
SOE MERGE THE PVP SERVERS , OR GIVE ME THE MONEY I PAYED U 2 YEARS NOW ! DIE ...

Agent2k
03-18-2007, 01:03 PM
<hr /> [email protected] wrote: <blockquote> yeah - casual-pvp with some noobs who don´t know how to fight - that is what you like. imo you really should sell *your gme* how about you just play on valor or innovation again? you can have your *casual-pvp* before your raids then. /duel 4tehwin. casual pvp - [Removed for Content]... and you know what? it´s ok. you telling poeple who actually wanna pvp on a populated server where there is also a chance that you don´t pawn the last 12 people in qeynos over and over that they are ganker, wow-kids and whatnot. that of course is very mature too <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> i hope you <strike>can</strike> stay on talendor.. forever.</blockquote><p> Ouuuuuuh, ya know what I mean? Yep! This little flaming bas***** (I didn't even think of writing it, did I?) like U! Isn't Venekor the server where this addicted little children mutual beat up their a**es? U shall go, get some fresh air, and stop flaming. *strokinglittleUbor* I see that you can't read correctly, and what you can read, you can't understand. Hm, lets see, casual-pvp... what could that mean? Sneaking around, like everyone else, and beat up some rattongas, without they have seen me. And then go and finish some quests, without beeing pwned by a x4 Raidgroup <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Let's see what the problem is, with /duel... humm... let me guess. This little anoying message, that I wanna to kill him, and if he agrees with that. Hey Ubor... please... go home and gank you populated Venekor players, but stop posting this sh** here... @ SOE </p><hr />    I don't know if you noticed but nearly everyone on this thread is trying to encourage SoE  to make a change and you wan't to step in and attempt to tell them not to by threatening to sell your game.  PLEASE do sell your game or go back to bluebie where you belong ,  casual pvp what the f* are you talking about?  PvP in a mmo is having to watch your back at every turn, knowing that at any moment your life maye be taken and quickly...   If you think pvp is meant to be "casual" then you sir are CLEARLY in the wrong place.  You need to take yourself off the red servers and head back to a blue one, or atleast stop posting on a pvp forum because you are NOT a PvP' er.  <p>      I as well as others like Ubor would appreciate it if you would keep your bluebie point of veiws to yourself on a subject as important to so many as this one.  If SoE did infact listen to your garbage and not initiate this change, I would love to see the blame you get as the pvp falls apart and many many others with opposite point of veiws on the subject really do sell their game.</p>

Sinistria
03-19-2007, 04:28 AM
casual pvp = /duel

Harbing
03-20-2007, 07:48 AM
Good day, so whats the official news about the Population problem on the EU servers ? To conclude: after about 6 months of rightful complaining about the EU server Population it was promised to us early January there would be news at the end of February. The news were that there would be a merge and it would be free (after various official statements that PvP server transfers are never going to happen since its technically not doable, not appropiate etc etc.) Now its nearing the end of March and we are still left in the dark and still there is no light at the end of the tunnel. Dear SOE, i pay you ca. 15$ every month since the Game launched; not including the cost to buy the original Game plus the Adventure- and Expansion Packs. Dont you think i, as a customer of yours, should be at least told a rough timeline when to expect such a big change ? Because, you know, i find myself at the point where i just do not see the necessity anymore to pay your bill and get virtually nothing (PvP) for it. Wake up and please talk to your (european) Playerbase. Thanks. Caine Blades Darathar

dr4gonUK
03-20-2007, 08:24 AM
<cite>Harbinger wrote:</cite><blockquote>Good day, so whats the official news about the Population problem on the EU servers ? To conclude: after about 6 months of rightful complaining about the EU server Population it was promised to us early January there would be news at the end of February. The news were that there would be a merge and it would be free (after various official statements that PvP server transfers are never going to happen since its technically not doable, not appropiate etc etc.) Now its nearing the end of March and we are still left in the dark and still there is no light at the end of the tunnel. Dear SOE, i pay you ca. 15$ every month since the Game launched; not including the cost to buy the original Game plus the Adventure- and Expansion Packs. Dont you think i, as a customer of yours, should be at least told a rough timeline when to expect such a big change ? Because, you know, i find myself at the point where i just do not see the necessity anymore to pay your bill and get virtually nothing (PvP) for it. Wake up and please talk to your (european) Playerbase. Thanks. Caine Blades Darathar </blockquote> QFT

Mozgoved
03-20-2007, 09:04 AM
<cite>Harbinger wrote:</cite><blockquote>Good day, so whats the official news about the Population problem on the EU servers ? To conclude: after about 6 months of rightful complaining about the EU server Population it was promised to us early January there would be news at the end of February. The news were that there would be a merge and it would be free (after various official statements that PvP server transfers are never going to happen since its technically not doable, not appropiate etc etc.) Now its nearing the end of March and we are still left in the dark and still there is no light at the end of the tunnel. Dear SOE, i pay you ca. 15$ every month since the Game launched; not including the cost to buy the original Game plus the Adventure- and Expansion Packs. Dont you think i, as a customer of yours, should be at least told a rough timeline when to expect such a big change ? Because, you know, i find myself at the point where i just do not see the necessity anymore to pay your bill and get virtually nothing (PvP) for it. Wake up and please talk to your (european) Playerbase. Thanks. Caine Blades Darathar </blockquote>Due to population issue all my friends have either rerolled on Naggy or outright quit EQ2. Rerolling is not an option for me. So being extremely upset that SOE still cannot merge the servers months after the issue is so absolutely evident... I have to quit. And wouldn't even dare touching Vanguard, as SOE is the co-publisher... What makes left of it... [Removed for Content], not wow <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

dr4gonUK
03-20-2007, 09:35 AM
<p>My sub runs out 21st march. I wont be re-subbing, so last post for a while. I will re-sub when they eventually allow the transfers.</p><p>Customers want solutions not silence SOE, i dont understand what the major holdup could have been. The code is already in place. </p>

God'sKeeper
03-20-2007, 02:32 PM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote><p>My sub runs out 21st march. I wont be re-subbing, so last post for a while. I will re-sub when they eventually allow the transfers.</p><p>Customers want solutions not silence SOE, i dont understand what the major holdup could have been. The code is already in place. </p></blockquote>I ll Not resub either .... <img src="http://aaronace.blogs.com/photos/client_work/killer.jpg" border="0">

Kincaid
03-20-2007, 07:02 PM
God'sKeeper wrote: <blockquote>[email protected] wrote: <blockquote><p>My sub runs out 21st march. I wont be re-subbing, so last post for a while. I will re-sub when they eventually allow the transfers.</p><p>Customers want solutions not silence SOE, i dont understand what the major holdup could have been. The code is already in place. </p></blockquote>I ll Not resub either .... <img src="http://aaronace.blogs.com/photos/client_work/killer.jpg" border="0"> </blockquote><p>Ok... who's been feeding mikas the bleach again? honestly guys, own up... who did it? </p>

Dannd
03-21-2007, 05:10 AM
At this point, I'm willing to pay the $50.00 to transfer my Ranger from Darathar to Naggy. I'm not even European! I'm just living in Italy because Uncle Sam told me to! SOE - please, break out the iron and get to ironing the kinks and eliminate the apparent red tape that is causing the delay.

Dodger Sunsoar
03-21-2007, 06:17 AM
<p>yeh SoE .. what will it be ... even more denial ? i know you americans tend to say ignorance is bliss ...  i rather say: ignorance is another branch of social stupidity.</p><p>CHeers! another yet again dissapointed customer</p>

Eeling
03-21-2007, 07:42 AM
<cite>Gallenite wrote:</cite><blockquote>We'll have an update for you soon with more specific ETAs on our next steps.  <p>Thanks very much, and good hunting.</p><p>- Scott</p></blockquote> An update "soon" ................ 3rd week counting ...... Yet another customer frustrated by the SOE ignorance.

Sinistria
03-21-2007, 07:47 AM
4months gone since that nice video with the "walk away" music. downloaded that song to my i-pod but it is always hard to hear. makes me wanna go home and play EQ2 <img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Eybietie
03-21-2007, 10:01 AM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote>At this point, I'm willing to pay the $50.00 to transfer my Ranger from Darathar to Naggy. I'm not even European! I'm just living in Italy because Uncle Sam told me to! SOE - please, break out the iron and get to ironing the kinks and eliminate the apparent red tape that is causing the delay.</blockquote> <span style="color: #ffff00">you wont have to pay the fee - it is only for player form nagafen or venekor that want to move to another server. darathar, talendor and gorenaire player get free transfer... soon </span><img src="/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Sinistria
03-21-2007, 10:05 AM
...soon... SOE is giving this word a complete new meaning <img src="/smilies/908627bbe5e9f6a080977db8c365caff.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

pharacyde
03-21-2007, 10:52 AM
Seems the "soon" used in MMO's got it's own urban definition now. <a href="http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=soon" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.urbandictionary.com/defi...e.php?term=soon</a> And if you want to believe Webster. <a href="http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/soon" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/soon</a> I guess dictionaries need to evolve, lets not blame SoE for this one. /sarcasm off

Dodger Sunsoar
03-21-2007, 10:52 AM
<p>Pha! i do believe it once the transfers are live and i get wtfp0000ned the first time on Naggy ... then and only then i am pleased ...</p><p>all this [Removed for Content] SoE is putting their paying customers trough is beyond ......  if we wouldnt be sad addicted computergame geeks they might take us a bit more serious ...  tbh im surprised no one showed up on their stupid ami.fan-faires and kicked some serious butts, maybe some slaps left and right might help ...  its hilarious i always tought the "customers service" in Europe is lousy and that the amis are a bit more on top of this [Removed for Content] ...  but well ...  *chuckle*</p><p>thank you SoE for proving again that you are the utter most crap in the MMO industrie; just too bad you get to *produce/host* the best MMO atm.</p><p>CHeers!</p>

Kaleyen
03-21-2007, 10:58 AM
Still no word yet I take it?

Dodger Sunsoar
03-21-2007, 11:52 AM
<p>Words?  Words !!???   sry no offense but i think its due time we get to see some ACTIONS .. we really had enough of SoE's hollow words and would love to see some ACTION of those slackers ...</p><p> CHeers!</p>

Je
03-21-2007, 04:01 PM
It's been three weeks by now - update please !

Eybietie
03-21-2007, 04:41 PM
Dodger Sunsoar wrote: <blockquote><p>tbh im surprised no one showed up on their stupid ami.fan-faires and kicked some serious butts, maybe some slaps left and right might help ...  its hilarious i always tought the "customers service" in Europe is lousy and that the amis are a bit more on top of this [I cannot control my vocabulary] ...  but well ...  *chuckle*</p></blockquote><span style="color: #ffff00">lol yeah - don´t forget to fraps the rl pvp then... ^^</span>

Gallenite
03-27-2007, 09:43 PM
Locking this thread to call out the update in the new thread here: <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?start=0&topic_id=354459�" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...59�</a>