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Dodger Sunsoar
03-01-2007, 03:05 PM
<p>Fellow "MMOG" PvPers</p><p> since SoE fails to live up to their promise, maybe i find some answers here ...</p><p>See this Link <a href="http://soe-ing.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/soe_ing.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=13166&p_created=1102888234&p_sid=3qL8itvi&p_accessibility=&p_lva=16310&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PWRmbHQmcF9ncmlkc29yd D0mcF9yb3dfY250PTIyJnBfcHJvZHM9MCZwX2NhdHM9MCZwX3B 2PSZwX2N2PSZwX3NlYXJjaF90eXBlPWFuc3dlcnMuc2VhcmNoX 25sJnBfcGFnZT0xJnBfc2VhcmNoX3RleHQ9bWFzc2l2ZWx5&p_li=&p_topview=1" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">==>> Klicky <<==</a>  Chuckled? ay cool .. now let me adjust that a bit;</p><p>Question: What is a <b>massively</b> multiplayer online game (MMOG)?</p><p><img src="http://soe-ing.custhelp.com/rnt/rnw/img/trnsp.gif" border="0"> Answer: A <b>massively</b> multiplayer online game is a video game where a player connects through the Internet to a persistent virtual world and if lucky enough by picking the right server from the start, he might join up with hundreds of thousands of other gamers in a shared experience. While many modern computer games support multiplayer gaming, very few are designed to support the thousands of simultaneous players whom might be found within the worlds of Sony Online Entertainment (SOE), yet again only if you where lucky enough to actually invest many many hours of playtime in your favourite Character on the server that will be the most populated in months to come. Instead of starting a game on a local network and inviting a few friends to play, EverQuest II uses the Internet to connect to SOE world servers, allowing an almost unlimited number of players to join from all across the globe. Altough if your [I cannot control my vocabulary] out of luck and choosed en European PvP server within the masses of population dwindling servers Sony Online Entertainement wont offer you a fair solution so you dont have to feel cheated and dissapointed. </p><p>Ah anyways ...  now to the numbers ... anyone got some numeral definition of that "Massively" all the Gaming Companies who have such products in the stores keep screaming about .... ?  What is those hundreds fo thousands ? 100 ? 1000 ? 10000 ?  or then like definied by SoE in their KB 100 of 1000 ... so 830263 ?</p><p>EDIT: just made quick /who all on Darathar.  Players online at EU Peaktime Q: 62  FP: 41 Exiles:i guess 4 max ...  maybe a bit more. Does this give us the first numerals .....  <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Feel free to flame, discuss and whine with me ....</p><p>WHine!</p>

Eluzay
03-01-2007, 03:12 PM
I am sure eq2's subscribership is in the 100's of thousands (not the millions like wow though) I would rate it in the massive catagory personally.

Splintered
03-01-2007, 03:58 PM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote>I am sure eq2's subscribership is in the 100's of thousands (not the millions like wow though) I would rate it in the massive catagory personally. </blockquote>EQ II subsciptions have significantly gone down in the last 6 months. I forget the exact numbers before, but I believe were between 300k and 500k, but now is down to 165k active subsciptions.

Eluzay
03-01-2007, 04:25 PM
<cite>Splintered wrote:</cite><blockquote>[email protected] wrote: <blockquote>I am sure eq2's subscribership is in the 100's of thousands (not the millions like wow though) I would rate it in the massive catagory personally. </blockquote>EQ II subsciptions have significantly gone down in the last 6 months. I forget the exact numbers before, but I believe were between 300k and 500k, but now is down to 165k active subsciptions. </blockquote>where do you grab current stats? The only sites I can find are very dated <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Fearborn
03-01-2007, 05:04 PM
<p>I'm sorry Darathar is struggling, I am also a Euro player but accepted from the start that it was not going to have viable numbers.</p><p>From my perspective Nagafen is alive and kicking, loads of players, in fact often too many.</p><p>Strangely it frustrates me a little that so many are playing WoW, as I have also played this and frankly doesn't have the depth and quality of EQII, but is certainly more accessable to the newcomer.</p><p>We need to get the word out that this game rocks and convert some of these players across.  SoE needs to pay us to do this.</p>

tass
03-02-2007, 01:37 AM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote><cite>Splintered wrote:</cite><blockquote>[email protected] wrote: <blockquote>I am sure eq2's subscribership is in the 100's of thousands (not the millions like wow though) I would rate it in the massive catagory personally. </blockquote>EQ II subsciptions have significantly gone down in the last 6 months. I forget the exact numbers before, but I believe were between 300k and 500k, but now is down to 165k active subsciptions. </blockquote>where do you grab current stats? The only sites I can find are very dated <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </blockquote>You know I like how games say we have hundereds of thoudands of subscribers. Right now id say thats bs even if u added up all the servers with every 1 of them having 800 to 1k people on each. But it makes you think ur online with boundless amounts of people. Ur not. Your only playing with maybe 1k tops in this game. in ffxi its around 3k pending which server you join. Wow is probably the same only say 5k people a server. So in conclusion who the hell really cares how many subscribers a game has. I want to know how many dam people are actually in the world that my character is in. What the hell do I care about ven when im in nag or any other server?

Dodger Sunsoar
03-02-2007, 04:10 AM
<p>Thanks for your toughts all ...</p><p> my post aimed more a bit toward the fact that SoE is selling their EQ2 under false promises ....  or why is it that we on Darathar for example are litterally stranded ?  if you call 200 players online an experience with hundreds of thousands other players this is just a plain lie an false advertisement.</p><p>In a way it makes me sad to see the overall subscriptions going down rapidly but on the other hand it feels good to see that SoE is not by far (around 51% of the overall MMOG market) a leader in that game market. May it be that WoW is the "easier" game (bs imo) but i think this is purely down to Blizzards marketing and actualy customer support ....  did you know Char moves are free with WoW ?</p><p>anyways ... not all hopes are burried yet and i do believe at the ghood spirits somewhere in the depth of SoE's money hungry decisionmakers crypt.</p><p>CHeers!</p>

Eluzay
03-02-2007, 11:20 AM
<cite>tass wrote:</cite><blockquote>[email protected] wrote: <blockquote><cite>Splintered wrote:</cite><blockquote>[email protected] wrote: <blockquote>I am sure eq2's subscribership is in the 100's of thousands (not the millions like wow though) I would rate it in the massive catagory personally. </blockquote>EQ II subsciptions have significantly gone down in the last 6 months. I forget the exact numbers before, but I believe were between 300k and 500k, but now is down to 165k active subsciptions. </blockquote>where do you grab current stats? The only sites I can find are very dated <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </blockquote>You know I like how games say we have hundereds of thoudands of subscribers. Right now id say thats bs even if u added up all the servers with every 1 of them having 800 to 1k people on each. But it makes you think ur online with boundless amounts of people. Ur not. Your only playing with maybe 1k tops in this game. in ffxi its around 3k pending which server you join. Wow is probably the same only say 5k people a server. So in conclusion who the hell really cares how many subscribers a game has. I want to know how many dam people are actually in the world that my character is in. What the hell do I care about ven when im in nag or any other server? </blockquote>the facts of the matter is that SOE only cares about # of subscriptions, the less people play the less work for the company's support group tbh.  I was under the impression that 5k was max server load for eq2 and when I look I see medium and high loads on nag which would be 2-4 thousand people. The fact of the matter is that eq2 pvp servers are the redheaded stepchild of the game and far mor people are playing pve than pvp. 

Greenion
03-02-2007, 11:40 AM
Fearborn wrote: <blockquote><p>We need to get the word out that this game rocks and convert some of these players across.  SoE needs to pay us to do this.</p></blockquote><p> <span style="color: #00ff00"><b>/</b><span style="color: #339900">fills out application</span>...</span></p><p><span style="color: #00ff00">...<span style="color: #339900">several years pvp forum trolling experience</span>....</span></p>

Inzipid
03-02-2007, 12:38 PM
<cite>Splintered wrote:</cite><blockquote>[email protected] wrote: <blockquote>I am sure eq2's subscribership is in the 100's of thousands (not the millions like wow though) I would rate it in the massive catagory personally. </blockquote>EQ II subsciptions have significantly gone down in the last 6 months. I forget the exact numbers before, but I believe were between 300k and 500k, but now is down to 165k active subsciptions. </blockquote>I'd like to find these numbers, too.  Not that it matters too much.  I have a great time playing this game.  Both with my level locked and leveling toons.  There is more content than I could ever explore and enough people (a great majority of the time) to fight.  If you are unhappy with population, come to Naggy and send me a tell, Freep side.  We'll hunt.