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swedago
03-01-2007, 04:42 AM
<p>Was curious to see if the LU32 made any changes to allow the transferring of toons on the PvP servers...  Well they did.  So all you PvPers from low pop servers can now transfer to Nagafen haha.</p><p> So stop whinning and reach deep in your pockets for the transfer fee!</p>

Palleon
03-01-2007, 05:18 AM
<p>So here I am all ready to flame the guy above about this rubbish, but figured I'd go look first.. and erm.. well, it does let you pick your pvP server, and the character, and the destination server, and tells you that you can continue...</p><p> Is this in!?</p>

dr4gonUK
03-01-2007, 05:28 AM
<p>Ah well, its better than nothing i guess. I dont see why ' they ' didnt let us know this would be the solution. </p>

Norrsken
03-01-2007, 05:32 AM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote><p>Ah well, its better than nothing i guess. I dont see why ' they ' didnt let us know this would be the solution. </p></blockquote>They did.

dr4gonUK
03-01-2007, 05:37 AM
<cite>Norrsken wrote:</cite><blockquote>[email protected] wrote: <blockquote><p>Ah well, its better than nothing i guess. I dont see why ' they ' didnt let us know this would be the solution. </p></blockquote>They did. </blockquote> No they did not.

Dodger Sunsoar
03-01-2007, 05:40 AM
<p>i wouldnt announce it either if it means that the customer has to yet again pay something to actually be able to get what they promise us...</p><p>SoE's decision makers; .. you'r fecking CLOWNSHOES!</p>

Norrsken
03-01-2007, 05:45 AM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote><cite>Norrsken wrote:</cite><blockquote>[email protected] wrote: <blockquote><p>Ah well, its better than nothing i guess. I dont see why ' they ' didnt let us know this would be the solution. </p></blockquote>They did. </blockquote> No they did not.</blockquote>Well, to be true, they didnt outright say this was the fix, but they did, two sentances ina  row say they were looking into population issues, and the pvp transfers. So, they hinted at it.

Palleon
03-01-2007, 05:55 AM
<p>No this isnt a fix for the server population issues, this is just a fix of the character paid transfer service, which they promised since day one of PvP.</p><p>A fix for the population issues has to be a merge or a forced free transfer. If they force everyone who wants to play with another person to pay $50 per character to move, they will lose whats left of the PvP player base on those low population servers over night.</p>

Norrsken
03-01-2007, 06:13 AM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote><p>No this isnt a fix for the server population issues, this is just a fix of the character paid transfer service, which they promised since day one of PvP.</p><p>A fix for the population issues has to be a merge or a forced free transfer. If they force everyone who wants to play with another person to pay $50 per character to move, they will lose whats left of the PvP player base on those low population servers over night.</p></blockquote>How is it not a fix? If you dont like your server pop, you can now do something about it, for a fee, granted... But you can still do it. And if my memory serves me right, they never promised pvp to pvp transfers on day 1. Heck, they halfway thru said they'd look into it and come back with a decision if it was gonna be put in or not...

Palleon
03-01-2007, 06:41 AM
<cite>Norrsken wrote:</cite><blockquote>[email protected] wrote: <blockquote><p>No this isnt a fix for the server population issues, this is just a fix of the character paid transfer service, which they promised since day one of PvP.</p><p>A fix for the population issues has to be a merge or a forced free transfer. If they force everyone who wants to play with another person to pay $50 per character to move, they will lose whats left of the PvP player base on those low population servers over night.</p></blockquote>How is it not a fix? If you dont like your server pop, you can now do something about it, for a fee, granted... But you can still do it. And if my memory serves me right, they never promised pvp to pvp transfers on day 1. Heck, they halfway thru said they'd look into it and come back with a decision if it was gonna be put in or not... </blockquote><p>How can you think this IS a fix? Some people will move to one server, some to another, and some will move the otherway, now instead of 2 low population servers and one medium you have 2 very low population servers and one medium. A SOLUTION is EVERYONE being moved from the low servers. This does not do that. Not everyone wants to pay $50 per character to move. Not everyone CAN pay nor has the space to move. This is not a solution, it is actually quite silly, as SOE will be left with a number of virtually dead servers that they are paying to keep running, and they have already said they will not "turn off" the servers with characters on, which means they will HAVE to transfers those people for free, or lose a fortune.</p>

dr4gonUK
03-01-2007, 06:45 AM
<p>I think we should await official news on this. The rules still say that pvp transfers are not allowed, even if the service is working.</p><p>Pull your finger out SOE and let us know whats ACTUALLY happening. Slackers tbhimho.</p>

Eeling
03-01-2007, 07:50 AM
<p>Hi,</p><p>What bothers me the most about this is:</p><p>The ignorance SOE is putting up. The lack of official responds at these boards.. Now counting 1st of March. The promise of a French admin isn't being held. (Can't find the link. Maybe our French m8 posting around from Gorenaire has it.)</p><p>Take a look at Darathar boards. Just recently two threads have been locked by our admin for multiple posts. It's not like SOE isn't paying attention to our boards.</p><p>Take another look at Darathar boards. Go thro the entire history. I guess half of the post.. maybe a bit less, but still... are posts about the server status and the lack of population. I mean, it's not like they don't understand <b>there is a problem!</b></p><p>A point, I'd like to point out. Allowing us to transfer (without guilds) for a fixed price is total <b>arrogance</b> to the entire Euro PvP population! First You let us suffer with low populations for months and months and meanwhile You are completely <b>ignorant </b>to MANY customers' concerns in their eager to try catch Your attention. Then when You finaly reach a state of decision, You want us to pay for our sufferings. Well, thank you very much. If this is going to be "the solution" I will seriously consider ending more than 2 years of EQ2 and never buy a SOE product EVER again!</p><p>(Opening three Euro PvP servers was Your mistake, not ours. Now, please fix Your probelm asap!)</p><p>NOW ANSWER PLEASE!!!</p><p>- Eeling, HoX leader.</p>

Amphibia
03-01-2007, 08:06 AM
If this is true, I <u><i>really</i></u> hope this isn't all they intend to do. There should be FREE transfers and/or merges. I guess we'll just have to wait for an official response....

Eybietie
03-01-2007, 08:32 AM
how do you transfer a char then?

xXBubblez
03-01-2007, 09:16 AM
<p><span style="color: #66ffff">For months, players on the other servers (not nagafen) have been complaining about population and wanting to be able to transfer ect ect.  You can finally transfer to a server of your liking and all you can do is b*tch and moan about it!?!  This is why SOE doesn't make posts to everyone demanding one.  You finally get what you want and your still unhappy.  For months, players have been asking for either server merges or open the move logs to other servers.  They did the latter, why shouldn't you have to pay the same fee for switching on pve servers? Never once did any of your complaints say... "Give us FREE charector transfers..." all you said was open move logs let us transfer or merge servers.   Welcome to a world of be careful what you wish for because you might just get it.  If you been playing this game for years and are not ready to give up on it, the $50 fee isn't going to make or break you and if it is, you probally should get a secound job and not be playing in the first place. </span></p><p><span style="color: #66ffff">Maybe they will merge servers still, maybe they won't.  Maybe they will give free transfers for a limited time, maybe they won't.  SOE never announced that they were even opening pvp to transfers so maybe, just maybe this info wasn't supposed to have surfaced yet and thats why you don't have the full details.  </span></p><p><span style="color: #66ffff">Some ppl are just so quick to jump the gun and start pointing fingers.  Take a secound to think about whats going on before shouting blame</span></p>

wvorster
03-01-2007, 10:17 AM
1) you must be a [Removed for Content] to believe what you said there xX BubblezXx 2) Server transfers are too late and SOE have lost MANY customers to other games already ( hence the sub hike coming in soon ) 3) I've moved on - spent over 90days played time on Darathar just to drop it from something new and fresh... 4) why do we have to fork out MORE money to pay for something that should be available as a SERVICE to the PAYING customers ? my 2c :> use it ... don't use it ...

Badaxe Ba
03-01-2007, 10:24 AM
It ain't a fix if it costs me more money. 

xXBubblez
03-01-2007, 10:25 AM
<cite>wvorster wrote:</cite><blockquote>1) you must be a [I cannot control my vocabulary] to believe what you said there xX BubblezXx -- <span style="color: #66ffff">I wrote it, i believe it </span>2) Server transfers are too late and SOE have lost MANY customers to other games already ( hence the sub hike coming in soon ) -- <span style="color: #66ffff">They may be to late for you, but there are still plenty of players on the low pop servers who were faithfully waiting the ability to switch servers</span> 3) I've moved on - spent over 90days played time on Darathar just to drop it from something new and fresh... -- <span style="color: #66ffff">have fun in your new fresh game </span>4) why do we have to fork out MORE money to pay for something that should be available as a SERVICE to the PAYING customers ? -- <span style="color: #66ffff">There are a lot of reasons SOE doesn't just blaitently allow server transfers for free.  It can cause a great inbalance to a server and its economy, there would be a flavor of the month server and everyone would start server hopping ect.  They place a fee on it to regulate it so only the ppl that truely want to switch their server can, for a fee </span>my 2c :> use it ... don't use it ... </blockquote>

XeroXs84
03-01-2007, 10:28 AM
well the transfer service is offline again, so i would guess it wasnt meant to be live yet .. stop moaning, wait for a official note on that and then u can moan if still needed <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> i ofc would prefer a merge too btw.

xXBubblez
03-01-2007, 10:30 AM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote>It ain't a fix if it costs me more money.  </blockquote><p> <span style="color: #66ffff">how is it not a fix? Did you say give us free server transfers or did you say give us server transfers... you got what you asked for.</span></p><p><span style="color: #66ffff">It should have come to no suprise that it cost money to transfer, why should we get to transfer for free if the pve servers have to pay for it.  </span></p><p><span style="color: #66ffff">Yes the pve servers had a time of free transfers for a specific reason, they might do that for pvp as well, but this information wasn't released yet.  There was no official word that the server transfer for pvp was even open yet, someone stumbled upon it and now the rest of the world starts yelling sky is falling. </span></p><p><span style="color: #66ffff">My point was everyone is being way to quick to jump the gun, point fingers, and place blame.  </span></p>

jibbermongette
03-01-2007, 10:53 AM
<p>Anyone who has been a customer of SoE for long enough should have seen this coming, its been made pretty clear on numerous occasions that all SoE cares about is $$$. </p><p>"Screw the customers, screw the game, as long as we can keep making money from the product who cares." This has been thier philosphy going back years and across many different games. Most developers actually care about their reputation, however i guess SoE has given up on that one. Hardly suprising considering the joke SoE has become over the years within the mmo  industry. Anyone who is suprised by this move really needs to open their eyes. </p><p>Did you really expect them to spend time and resources working on a viable method of transfering players/guilds from one server to another in a dying game?  While it may sound simple to us im sure the language barrier's, duplicate player names/guild names, doubled character slots and so on are time consuming issues to reslove. If eq2 pvp was a growing game making plenty of cash i am sure SoE would have been willing to invest the time/money into giving us players what we wanted (if this was the case we wouldn't need developer intervention anyways). However with the decreasing population accross all pvp servers it seems pretty obvious to me that eq2 pvp is on its last legs. One thing for sure, if i was a SoE shareholder the last place i would want to see my money being invested would be into eq2pvp <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Personally i dont care what happens to darathar/eq2pvp anymore. All my SoE related subcriptions have long since been cancelled (posting on the wifes account) i recently cancelled my vanguard subscription as well seeing yet another example of SoE being incapable of maintaining a stable EU server and the double standards shown towards US and Non US customers, but thats another story heh.</p><p>My only question is why has this taken so [I cannot control my vocabulary] long to implement? A few of us on the Darathar server noticed the population problem back in march of last year and first started posting our concerns. Nearly a year later and the best you can come up with is paid character transfers? Seriously [I cannot control my vocabulary] is this? You have kept us waiting all this time just to give us a method of moving our characters which was working even before eq2pvp was released? You were pretty quick in disabling this service a few months back when Saracen/Gotika used it to move their characters from darathar to nagafen and now you are offering this as our only way to move our characters to a populated server? 6 months ago i would have paid to move all my characters over to nagafen on all 3 accounts, however seeing the dropping populations on all servers, the migration of players to new games (lotr, War and Conan still to come) i'd rather be without a mmo for the next month or so than give anymore money to such a bunch of clowns. Maybe Mythic, Codemasters or funcom will be no better, but i cant see how they can be any worse... Morque</p>

Eluzay
03-01-2007, 11:09 AM
You could always got to that site and set up a transfer.  Someone did it a few months ago and there was a big hubub about it, SOE moved the guy back to his server and said that it was not intended for pvp transfers at that time. I would ask SOE before I tried this if I was anyone.  I have heard nothing about it being "accepted" now so probably still just a buggy transfer system.

zorros
03-01-2007, 02:51 PM
[Removed for Content] $50 my [Removed for Content]

xXBubblez
03-01-2007, 02:58 PM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote>[Removed for Content] $50 my [Removed for Content]</blockquote> <span style="color: #66ffff">lol i don't understand what the big outrage is.  It has ALWAYS been $50 for server transfer.</span>

Bozidar
03-01-2007, 03:02 PM
<p>It's my understanding that transfer to a Station Exchange server has not required a fee in the past.</p><p>Is this true, and do you think it will hold true for Vox?!?! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

Eluzay
03-01-2007, 03:14 PM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote><p>It's my understanding that transfer to a Station Exchange server has not required a fee in the past.</p><p>Is this true, and do you think it will hold true for Vox?!?! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p></blockquote> If I am not mistaken they allow movement TO exchange servers but not away from them *shrug* this is at least my perception of how they run things on the pve side.

Balloonman1
03-01-2007, 08:00 PM
<p>Why would you get free transfers anyways?  You choose what server you wanted to play on, its not SOEs fault no one plays on the lower population servers,  its just like if you played on a low pop non pvp server and you wanted more people,  what would you do?  Except a free one?</p>

Zaviur
03-01-2007, 10:43 PM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote><p>Why would you get free transfers anyways?  You choose what server you wanted to play on, its not SOEs fault no one plays on the lower population servers,  its just like if you played on a low pop non pvp server and you wanted more people,  what would you do?  Except a free one?</p></blockquote> No you are wrong sony is responsible to ensure that this is a MMORPG.  It means there is suppose to be a lot of people on the server not the pitiful numbers that vox is pulling in everyday.

zorros
03-02-2007, 03:40 PM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote><p>Why would you get free transfers anyways?  You choose what server you wanted to play on, its not SOEs fault no one plays on the lower population servers,  its just like if you played on a low pop non pvp server and you wanted more people,  what would you do?  Except a free one?</p></blockquote>Yes i expect it to be free and it seems it will be free.

Roald
03-03-2007, 07:51 AM
<p>I've never transfered a character before, so:</p><p>Would my character be naked?</p><p>Would all my Masters go?</p><p>Would my factions be reset?</p>

Eybietie
03-03-2007, 08:12 AM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote><p>its not SOEs fault no one plays on the lower population servers,  its just like if you played on a low pop non pvp server and you wanted more people,  what would you do?  Except a free one?</p></blockquote> <span style="color: #ffff00">it ain´t my fault too. and yes bringing 3 european server and only 2 us server is SOEs fault. and yes, i also would expect a free move for a pve server too if the low population issue occurs. i just wonder why you felt the need to post this ^^ you afraid someone get something that you don´t? ^^ /neener /neener there u go!</span>

Badaxe Ba
03-04-2007, 01:58 PM
<cite>xXBubblezXx wrote:</cite><blockquote>[email protected] wrote: <blockquote>It ain't a fix if it costs me more money.  </blockquote><p> <span style="color: #66ffff">how is it not a fix? Did you say give us free server transfers or did you say give us server transfers... you got what you asked for.</span></p><p><span style="color: #66ffff">It should have come to no suprise that it cost money to transfer, why should we get to transfer for free if the pve servers have to pay for it.  </span></p><p><span style="color: #66ffff">Yes the pve servers had a time of free transfers for a specific reason, they might do that for pvp as well, but this information wasn't released yet.  There was no official word that the server transfer for pvp was even open yet, someone stumbled upon it and now the rest of the world starts yelling sky is falling. </span></p><p><span style="color: #66ffff">My point was everyone is being way to quick to jump the gun, point fingers, and place blame.  </span></p></blockquote><p>PvE servers have been merged/transferred at no cost in the past.  Can YOU say TOXXULIA?  I seem to recall in the not so distant past of about a year 1/2 ago, Toxxulians got to say "What the [Removed for Content]?  I'm moving to Guk!"  Cost=$0</p><p>Most EU servers have been requesting a merge.  Personally, I have no problems with SOE opening up char transfers for a fee, but it doesn't 'FIX' the population problem, hence my 'It ain't a fix if it cost me money' post. </p>

holypaladin28
03-04-2007, 02:29 PM
<p>okay everyoine</p><p> PVP server transfer will be rolling out ina  few weeks.  if you are on a  euro server you will be able to transfer to naggy vox or venekor for free</p><p>ifyou want to rtransfer to vox and you are on naggy or venekor it is alsop free as it is a station exchange server. same rules will apply as the pve transfer if you are on naggy and wanna go to venekor it will be 50 bucks and vice versa.</p><p>the reason why it was live but removed is there was a glitch and it was never meant to go live.  they need to make sure everything works by testing and get the billing resolved so the euro servers dont get charged. </p>

Bawang
03-04-2007, 10:57 PM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote><p>okay everyoine</p><p> PVP server transfer will be rolling out ina  few weeks.  if you are on a  euro server you will be able to transfer to naggy vox or venekor for free</p><p>ifyou want to rtransfer to vox and you are on naggy or venekor it is alsop free as it is a station exchange server. same rules will apply as the pve transfer if you are on naggy and wanna go to venekor it will be 50 bucks and vice versa.</p><p>the reason why it was live but removed is there was a glitch and it was never meant to go live.  they need to make sure everything works by testing and get the billing resolved so the euro servers dont get charged. </p></blockquote>Can you provide a link for the source of your information? If not, you're just blowing wind.

holypaladin28
03-05-2007, 12:45 AM
if you look,very very close on the first page of the PVP thread.  thats in the same area as this thread you will see a post form a dev READ IT

Badaxe Ba
03-05-2007, 04:14 AM
<p>HEY!  That looks like a bandaid!  It still is gonna need a merge in the end.</p>