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Bog
02-28-2007, 12:01 PM
I've own EQ2 since day one but really never played until now, joined PVP server which I chose guard-I love the attention* anyway, Being a honest noob my charecter gets killed a lot any advice for a guardian? Thank you

Bozidar
02-28-2007, 12:08 PM
<p>best, honest, advice i can give you is get a group.</p><p>Get a healer, get a rogue, and pwn the face off of everyone.  You know, after you gear up to MC or better (including CAs)</p>

Strums
02-28-2007, 12:20 PM
Guardians are at the bottom of the food chain when it comes to pvp solo.  They are walking tokens.  However, guardians are very successful in group style pvp.  You need to upgrade all your gear to mastercrafted or better, and your combat arts need to be upgraded to adept 3 or better.

Valdar
02-28-2007, 12:23 PM
<p>A well geared guardian in a good group is like a force of nature. Ustopable, unkillable...</p><p>A solo guardian in bad gear is roadkill.</p><p>Gear up and group and you will be an idol for all.</p>

Bog
02-28-2007, 01:14 PM
<p>Thanks fellows. I didn't understand any of this when I created my guardian but I chose to create her because I don't really see Guards and I didn't want to become another common but something rare, real and awsome. I guess patients is what I need most and lots understanding my class. Theirs isn't much *complete* on wiki about gear etc on guardians that I found. </p><p>Master line, huh?</p>

Valdar
02-28-2007, 01:31 PM
<p>Concentrate on gear > combat arts.</p><p>Next get good taunts.</p><p>Don't play to kill, just focus on taunting and getting aggro.</p>

Gaeus
02-28-2007, 01:37 PM
No matter what your class, my advice is like posted above is firstly:   Gear up.  This is not impossible even at low lvls.  You can do it harvesting nodes for rares.  Also, my advice is to lock your XP bar.  If you want to get as many AAs as possible lock your XP bar at 10, and level up off of quests.  You will accomplish more, and really refine your character and learn your class extremely well when you are not blowing through 5 lvls a day.  Which, aint hard.  What's hard is taking pride in yourself and making yourself the best no matter what tier.  So.  Harvest rares.  Learn a tradeskill that you can use.  Say, if you go with Armorsmith.  Craft your own armors, so you are in Mastercrafted armor created from Blackened Iron Clusters which YOU harvested....  Or, be a Alchemist create your own fighter Adept III spells with Solidified and Alkaline Loams which are Tier 1 and Tier 2 rares needed for the crafting.  This way, you can progress yourself.  And, don't underestimate spell worth, meaning, Adept IIIs are much more effective than a app I, or even an adept I.  And, the rares you don't need?  Sell them and make a profit!  Or trade them to guildies for rares they don't need that way you get something you need and so do they.  Which brings me to another point, look for a guild with people who actually help eachother out with quests, as well as rares and tradeskill books etc.  Many people don't agree with level locking, but if you want to experience the most without rushing to the top, and you really want to get the most out of your character it's the only way to do it.  You can actually get 20 AAs at lvl 20 heck even more possibly.  There just are tons of quests that grant AA xp at low lvls now, that if you rush to 70 you will miss tons of them.  And, then you will be one of the people complaining that AA grinding is too hard at 70 lvl not enough is granted.  Take your time and smell the roses is my advice.  And, join Freeport, that maybe the most important thing you do we need you the most. hehe.  If you are not sure what gives AA xp?  It's Named Mobs.  Discovery of New Zones and places noteworthy!  Quests that are "repeatable" they will not grant AA xp.  And, lastly there are droppable arcane loots that will give AA xp, they are semi rares that drop off mobs you will see them when they grant AA xp, and also the little amulets/relics/paper scrolls that are turned into status items to the different guilds of Freeport/Qeynos those also will give AA xp.  And, yes, you will level up even with XP locked.  You will be lvl 20-25 within a couple weeks maybe less depending on how much you play, because every quest turned in will give lvl experience, every discovery will give experience.  

Eluzay
02-28-2007, 02:48 PM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote>No matter what your class, my advice is like posted above is firstly:   Gear up.  This is not impossible even at low lvls.  You can do it harvesting nodes for rares.  Also, my advice is to lock your XP bar.  If you want to get as many AAs as possible lock your XP bar at 10, and level up off of quests.  You will accomplish more, and really refine your character and learn your class extremely well when you are not blowing through 5 lvls a day.  Which, aint hard.  What's hard is taking pride in yourself and making yourself the best no matter what tier.  So.  Harvest rares.  Learn a tradeskill that you can use.  Say, if you go with Armorsmith.  Craft your own armors, so you are in Mastercrafted armor created from Blackened Iron Clusters which YOU harvested....  Or, be a Alchemist create your own fighter Adept III spells with Solidified and Alkaline Loams which are Tier 1 and Tier 2 rares needed for the crafting.  This way, you can progress yourself.  And, don't underestimate spell worth, meaning, Adept IIIs are much more effective than a app I, or even an adept I.  And, the rares you don't need?  Sell them and make a profit!  Or trade them to guildies for rares they don't need that way you get something you need and so do they.  Which brings me to another point, look for a guild with people who actually help eachother out with quests, as well as rares and tradeskill books etc.  Many people don't agree with level locking, but if you want to experience the most without rushing to the top, and you really want to get the most out of your character it's the only way to do it.  You can actually get 20 AAs at lvl 20 heck even more possibly.  There just are tons of quests that grant AA xp at low lvls now, that if you rush to 70 you will miss tons of them.  And, then you will be one of the people complaining that AA grinding is too hard at 70 lvl not enough is granted.  Take your time and smell the roses is my advice.  And, join Freeport, that maybe the most important thing you do we need you the most. hehe.  If you are not sure what gives AA xp?  It's Named Mobs.  Discovery of New Zones and places noteworthy!  Quests that are "repeatable" they will not grant AA xp.  And, lastly there are droppable arcane loots that will give AA xp, they are semi rares that drop off mobs you will see them when they grant AA xp, and also the little amulets/relics/paper scrolls that are turned into status items to the different guilds of Freeport/Qeynos those also will give AA xp.  And, yes, you will level up even with XP locked.  You will be lvl 20-25 within a couple weeks maybe less depending on how much you play, because every quest turned in will give lvl experience, every discovery will give experience.   </blockquote>I completely dissagree with locking the exp bar, get aa as fast as possible but also get to 30 as fast as possible as well, T2 and T3 pvp is brutal for new players and as far as gearing up you will out level your T2 gear so fast that you should only half worry about it if you follow my advice. 

Cantilena
02-28-2007, 03:05 PM
<cite>Valdar wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>A well geared guardian in a good group is like a force of nature. Ustopable, unkillable...</p><p>A solo guardian in bad gear is roadkill.</p><p>Gear up and group and you will be an idol for all.</p></blockquote>Yup.

Norrsken
02-28-2007, 03:10 PM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote>[email protected] wrote: <blockquote>No matter what your class, my advice is like posted above is firstly:   Gear up.  This is not impossible even at low lvls.  You can do it harvesting nodes for rares.  Also, my advice is to lock your XP bar.  If you want to get as many AAs as possible lock your XP bar at 10, and level up off of quests.  You will accomplish more, and really refine your character and learn your class extremely well when you are not blowing through 5 lvls a day.  Which, aint hard.  What's hard is taking pride in yourself and making yourself the best no matter what tier.  So.  Harvest rares.  Learn a tradeskill that you can use.  Say, if you go with Armorsmith.  Craft your own armors, so you are in Mastercrafted armor created from Blackened Iron Clusters which YOU harvested....  Or, be a Alchemist create your own fighter Adept III spells with Solidified and Alkaline Loams which are Tier 1 and Tier 2 rares needed for the crafting.  This way, you can progress yourself.  And, don't underestimate spell worth, meaning, Adept IIIs are much more effective than a app I, or even an adept I.  And, the rares you don't need?  Sell them and make a profit!  Or trade them to guildies for rares they don't need that way you get something you need and so do they.  Which brings me to another point, look for a guild with people who actually help eachother out with quests, as well as rares and tradeskill books etc.  Many people don't agree with level locking, but if you want to experience the most without rushing to the top, and you really want to get the most out of your character it's the only way to do it.  You can actually get 20 AAs at lvl 20 heck even more possibly.  There just are tons of quests that grant AA xp at low lvls now, that if you rush to 70 you will miss tons of them.  And, then you will be one of the people complaining that AA grinding is too hard at 70 lvl not enough is granted.  Take your time and smell the roses is my advice.  And, join Freeport, that maybe the most important thing you do we need you the most. hehe.  If you are not sure what gives AA xp?  It's Named Mobs.  Discovery of New Zones and places noteworthy!  Quests that are "repeatable" they will not grant AA xp.  And, lastly there are droppable arcane loots that will give AA xp, they are semi rares that drop off mobs you will see them when they grant AA xp, and also the little amulets/relics/paper scrolls that are turned into status items to the different guilds of Freeport/Qeynos those also will give AA xp.  And, yes, you will level up even with XP locked.  You will be lvl 20-25 within a couple weeks maybe less depending on how much you play, because every quest turned in will give lvl experience, every discovery will give experience.   </blockquote>I completely dissagree with locking the exp bar, get aa as fast as possible but also get to 30 as fast as possible as well, T2 and T3 pvp is brutal for new players and as far as gearing up you will out level your T2 gear so fast that you should only half worry about it if you follow my advice.  </blockquote>Agree with this SK here. Your first toon should try and go fast thru t2 and 3. Those are hell tiers for pvp. Most people have a lvl locked twink there that will walk all over you if you so much as think of leaving a zoneline. LEvel up, get a feel of the pvp in the game. If you like it, either go to 70, gear up and pvp there or roll an alt, find a good guild, twink up, lock your level and go to town with all the other kids. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Kurindor_Mythecnea
02-28-2007, 05:10 PM
Aye, if you haven't the experience of prior EQ2 familiarity, you do need to shoot past T3. It's a haven of ruckus that most newbies just probably won't be able to match. Probably once a few Fae have betrayed the population will settle into equality, because I'm sure many will still be a bit hesitant due to the domination Qeynosians provide currently. However, I feel if you truly intended to be quite successful at PvP with a Guardian, your optimal ally build would likely be a Warden and Dirge, potentially with the Warden interchangeable as a Defiler. With the carrying the number of debuffs you would, you could stand quite competently without other Melee-based assistance. Wardens can spec melee, as well as Defilers I think, so that of course helps (let alone the Wis buff for the great Guardian). If you were to get the chance to plop in some Assassins, Brigands, or Bruisers (although of course, surely not needed for as high a degree of efficiency which could be achieved otherwise), even better. <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Bog
03-01-2007, 06:18 AM
<p><span style="font-size: small; font-family: comic sans ms,sand">Hello everyone, HI! I had so much fun tonight on Vox server in the caves. At first I didn't have clue on PVP and got mad becuz of being killed  but I met Worrbull few days ago who's been helping me IG to understand how 'freeps' get into the caves and how I fight them. Yeah, I'd chose the good. Our group were amazing! The groups in EQ2 are unreal compared to WOW-I was in my first PVP raid, got a robe that payed 18 gold I needed that gold badly. I was told I am behind at level 17 I shouldve had 1 or 2 plat. Is that true? It was so funny to chase other players through the caves. It was real kool also my friend IG turns himself in a bear I can see them hiding or being sneaky then I chase them they get freaked out take off running. lol Theirs people losing huge amounts of gold tonight I didn't know in PVP you can lose items and money. This server for me is alive, I also found many people in RP mode PVPing I never thought those two things would mix. </span></p>

Norrsken
03-01-2007, 06:22 AM
<cite>Bogoa wrote:</cite><blockquote><p><span style="font-size: small; font-family: comic sans ms,sand">Hello everyone, HI! I had so much fun tonight on Vox server in the caves. At first I didn't have clue on PVP and got mad becuz of being killed  but I met Worrbull few days ago who's been helping me IG to understand how 'freeps' get into the caves and how I fight them. Yeah, I'd chose the good. Our group were amazing! The groups in EQ2 are unreal compared to WOW-I was in my first PVP raid, got a robe that payed 18 gold I needed that gold badly. I was told I am behind at level 17 I shouldve had 1 or 2 plat. Is that true? It was so funny to chase other players through the caves. It was real kool also my friend IG turns himself in a bear I can see them hiding or being sneaky then I chase them they get freaked out take off running. lol Theirs people losing huge amounts of gold tonight I didn't know in PVP you can lose items and money. This server for me is alive, I also found many people in RP mode PVPing I never thought those two things would mix. </span></p></blockquote>Glad you like it. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> The community in EQ2 is usually what busts the alternatives. But rest assured, you'll hate pvp on more than one occasion. As have we all. Hehe.