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Keisaro
02-26-2007, 07:25 PM
<p>Alright.</p><p> Now I've spent the past hour or so reading stuff about how "Venekor is dead" and such and how everyone now plays on Nagafen. </p><p>But I am still curious as to how it's "dead"? Should I just stop playing there and move to a different PvP server? I've seen alot of stuff about how no one raids and such, mixmatch stuff. So I'm really confused.</p><p> I'm just returning, I started to play EQ2 when KoS came out. And I quit like the middle of may last year because I lost my good computer and could not run EQ2. But now I can, and I've got a few chars in the 20s but just for the sake of learning how to play the game again, I've made a new Assassin who is now level 11.</p><p>So should I just stop? Should I keep playing? Should I move? Please help me here peeps <img src="/smilies/1cfd6e2a9a2c0cf8e74b49b35e2e46c7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />. I've spent the last hour or so just skimming through posts, and now I'm afraid to even PLAY because I'm worried the game is going to die soon, and then my character at level 70 won't have anyone else to play with. And will just be a waste of time.</p><p>I just want some insight as to [Removed for Content] is going on <img src="/smilies/1cfd6e2a9a2c0cf8e74b49b35e2e46c7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.</p>

Greenion
02-26-2007, 07:28 PM
<span style="color: #339900">im staying...im attackable by any leveled character...come try and find me.</span>

Eybietie
02-26-2007, 07:41 PM
<cite>Greenion wrote:</cite><blockquote><span style="color: #339900">...come try and find me.</span></blockquote> <span style="color: #ffff00">i actually tried and never did.</span>

Greenion
02-26-2007, 07:45 PM
<span style="color: #339900">i blame instances</span><span style="color: #00ff00"><b><u>.</u></b></span>

Wytie
02-26-2007, 07:50 PM
<p>IMO it was slow for a while but its getting better once everyone figures out Vanguard isnt what it was hyped up to be.</p>

Greenion
02-26-2007, 08:07 PM
<cite>Wytie wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>IMO it was slow for a while but its getting better once everyone figures out Vanguard isnt what it was hyped up to be.</p></blockquote><p> <span style="color: #339900">ive been playing it some...lvl 12 goblin rogue : Greench...on tharridon ffa server, as well as several others, including greenion, wood elf ranger, lvl 8...</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">its a fun game, interesting pve for a solo imo...i understand it becomes harder after level 20 to solo, we shall see...</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">i dont like to hurry and rush a game anyway...for example the way im approaching vanguard...atm im playing through pve stuff mostly...and taking what pvp comes my way...sometimes ill go after someone...mostly ive played the goblin and well, goblins and orcs arent known for their factional chuminess anyways...hehehehz...</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">levels mean alot in vg, alot. so does having more than a single character in a party but id say level matters more...at least in my experience.</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">im kind of holding back on several alts while i play one toon up...im basicly ignoring tradeskilling and diplomacy on this run...the next character i will more fully develop...which is why i havent been playing greenion yet there much.</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">atm in eq2 im crafting ALOT, have to really just to be able to barely survive in lower tiers in the open as an exile...harvesting is actually a bit of an adventure...(i harvest with a character that is in the tier of the zone im harvesting, i dont usually harvest stuff with a high level toon in greyed out zones)</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">so while i do that switching over to vg to grind pve content a bit is cool.</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">soon ill be done outfitting my t3 assassin in eqii...itll be fun pvping with him when he is ready....then t4...likely an illusionist...maybe another scout for awhile...which, itll take awhile to fully outfit them also.</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">i also just stasrted two new chars...a dirge and a bruiser, which are my woodworker and provisioner...that need to level up...</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">someday maybe ill get around to pvping...</span></p>

Brigh
02-26-2007, 09:02 PM
<p>Most people that play on servers don't even read the forums or post, so you are taking what a small percentage of complainers are saying as being the majority.</p><p>Yes it is no longer what it was on opening day. It seems the dead tiers are T4-6. </p><p>This time of year is always slow. It happened to EQ1 when EQ2 and WOW came out. People left to try new things.</p><p>You see posts about people coming back from WoW to EQ2. People will leave VG.</p><p>People will go to LOTR online. People need new things if they are bored.</p><p>They know about at least the Euro server problem. Maybe they will do something in a few months with Venekor and Nagafen if needed.</p>

Cocytus
02-27-2007, 12:05 AM
<p>It's dead because the Fae killed it.</p><p>Soon though, they'll all show their true colors and betray, and things will be awesome again.</p>

Zanix
02-28-2007, 05:29 PM
<cite>Cocytus wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>It's dead because the Fae killed it.</p><p>Soon though, they'll all show their true colors and betray, and things will be awesome again.</p></blockquote><p> ROFL. even more of a reason to leave the server if this was true. </p><p>So how many Fae to FP do you see coming to spark the life back onto PVP for venekor?</p><p>also, there are only a handful of high level Faes on Venekor... </p>

Armondpb
02-28-2007, 05:58 PM
I <3 Venekor

Kurindor_Mythecnea
02-28-2007, 06:00 PM
Death to Venekor! <img src="/smilies/908627bbe5e9f6a080977db8c365caff.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Captain Apple Darkberry
02-28-2007, 06:25 PM
<p><span style="color: #ff3300">The server definately had a few folks abandon ship...</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff3300">Some left from the backlash of Tokengate causing them to suddenly become ~bored~ when they were caught...</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff3300">Some left from growing weary of the ~exploits~ that seem to fall on deaf Dev ears...</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff3300">Some left from the borking of raid zones when EoF went live...</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff3300">Some left because they are trying Vanguard...</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff3300">Some left because of the lower population caused by the above problems...</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff3300">But I have to say that I have seen more new folks recently.  The lower zones are growing in population again, and not just from twinks.  Many seem to actually be people who are new to the server.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff3300">Maybe its just me...   ...but I think it is more than just the rum clouding me eyes, I really think Venekor's sails are starting to catch wind.</span></p>

Xzerius
02-28-2007, 11:02 PM
<p>I dunno.....  I personnally see the population hurting. I can spend a great deal of time running  around trying to find  PvP with no luck.  All of my toons are FP so if the whole, blame the fae thing were valid then I should be stumbling into PvP all the time but I am not. When you do find someone it generally turns into a zone chase and after 20 minutes it gets old.</p><p>I guess I'm getting bored with the current state of things.   Unfortunately......... All of my toons are on Venekor.          <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

Captain Apple Darkberry
03-01-2007, 12:04 AM
<cite>Xzerius wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I dunno.....  I personnally see the population hurting. I can spend a great deal of time running  around trying to find  PvP with no luck.  All of my toons are FP so if the whole, blame the fae thing were valid then I should be stumbling into PvP all the time but I am not. <span style="color: #669900">When you do find someone it generally turns into a zone chase and after 20 minutes it gets old.</span></p><p><span style="color: #669900">I guess I'm getting bored with the current state of things.</span>   Unfortunately......... All of my toons are on Venekor.          <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p></blockquote><span style="color: #ff3300">I have to agree with you in several ways. The ability avoid a fight in this game really needs to be changed.  Should you be able to run away?  Of course, but in the current state of the game, if you can make it to a zone line, you can simply camp out with immunity while /laughing at the person standing right in front of you.  That needs to change...   ...it is [I cannot control my vocabulary].  Maybe its to protect titles or their KvD ratio, maybe they just do it because they can.  If you want to camp with immunity, you should need to do it from a revive tent. Group zerging also needs to be fixed.  If you die in PvP, you need to stay dead till you are rezzed, or until your entire group is dead. But this doesn't make me bored...   ...more frustrated. As for population.  I still seems to be on the uprise.  Enough?  No.  There needs to be much higher population.  But I could roll my toons on Naggy, as could you.  I did roll a couple there as a matter of fact.  I loved the high population...   ...but the ~atmosphere~ left something to be desired.  I say give Venekor all of the Euro servers.  How much of a language barrier can it be when we can't even talk to the other faction anyway...? </span>

Amphibia
03-01-2007, 08:25 AM
Captain Apple Darkberry wrote: <blockquote>Xzerius wrote: <span style="color: #ff3300">I have to agree with you in several ways. The ability avoid a fight in this game really needs to be changed.  Should you be able to run away?  Of course, but in the current state of the game, if you can make it to a zone line, you can simply camp out with immunity while /laughing at the person standing right in front of you.  That needs to change...   ...it is [I cannot control my vocabulary].  Maybe its to protect titles or their KvD ratio, maybe they just do it because they can.  If you want to camp with immunity, you should need to do it from a revive tent. Group zerging also needs to be fixed.  If you die in PvP, you need to stay dead till you are rezzed, or until your entire group is dead. But this doesn't make me bored...   ...more frustrated. As for population.  I still seems to be on the uprise.  Enough?  No.  There needs to be much higher population.  But I could roll my toons on Naggy, as could you.  I did roll a couple there as a matter of fact.  I loved the high population...   ...but the ~atmosphere~ left something to be desired.  I say give Venekor all of the Euro servers.  How much of a language barrier can it be when we can't even talk to the other faction anyway...? </span> </blockquote> A change that would make it difficult or impossible to revive zerg would be welcome. Also agree with you that the zoning/immunity game + title hugging gets old very fast. As for population, I don't think it would solve much for the European servers to be merged with us. Venekor is almost empty at their prime time. Nagafen on the other hand, has plenty of European players, so I'm guessing they would prefer to go there. I say give Nagafen all the Euro servers AND Venekor. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> And yeah... we could roll on Nagafen. But when you already have a level 70 toon you've worked on a lot, who'd want to start all over again? In my opinion, that really shouldn't be required. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Jimena
03-01-2007, 08:46 AM
in the mornign always between 6am and 10am est there are less than 100 FP online, as shown by /who all

tass
03-01-2007, 02:30 PM
<cite>Greenion wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Wytie wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>IMO it was slow for a while but its getting better once everyone figures out Vanguard isnt what it was hyped up to be.</p></blockquote><p> <span style="color: #339900">ive been playing it some...lvl 12 goblin rogue : Greench...on tharridon ffa server, as well as several others, including greenion, wood elf ranger, lvl 8...</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">its a fun game, interesting pve for a solo imo...i understand it becomes harder after level 20 to solo, we shall see...</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">i dont like to hurry and rush a game anyway...for example the way im approaching vanguard...atm im playing through pve stuff mostly...and taking what pvp comes my way...sometimes ill go after someone...mostly ive played the goblin and well, goblins and orcs arent known for their factional chuminess anyways...hehehehz...</span></p><p><span style="color: #990000">levels mean alot in vg, alot. so does having more than a single character in a party but id say level matters more...at least in my experience.</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">im kind of holding back on several alts while i play one toon up...im basicly ignoring tradeskilling and diplomacy on this run...the next character i will more fully develop...which is why i havent been playing greenion yet there much.</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">atm in eq2 im crafting ALOT, have to really just to be able to barely survive in lower tiers in the open as an exile...harvesting is actually a bit of an adventure...(i harvest with a character that is in the tier of the zone im harvesting, i dont usually harvest stuff with a high level toon in greyed out zones)</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">so while i do that switching over to vg to grind pve content a bit is cool.</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">soon ill be done outfitting my t3 assassin in eqii...itll be fun pvping with him when he is ready....then t4...likely an illusionist...maybe another scout for awhile...which, itll take awhile to fully outfit them also.</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">i also just stasrted two new chars...a dirge and a bruiser, which are my woodworker and provisioner...that need to level up...</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">someday maybe ill get around to pvping...</span></p></blockquote><span style="color: #ffffff">lol obviously you've never ran into a couple of lv 7 warriors. Accidentally thought I could nuke em easy with my 11 sorcerer. Quick death short I wont be doing that again. Still that game is so much better. You dont have to chase people. They cant run to zones or guards because their are non. And if you try something tricky someone else kicks the crap out of you. Fun all the time lol. Leveling is 1 hell of a pain though but it makes each level feel like an achivment.</span>

Captain Apple Darkberry
03-01-2007, 02:45 PM
<cite>Amphibia wrote:</cite><blockquote> A change that would make it difficult or impossible to revive zerg would be welcome. Also agree with you that the zoning/immunity game + title hugging gets old very fast. As for population, I don't think it would solve much for the European servers to be merged with us. Venekor is almost empty at their prime time. Nagafen on the other hand, has plenty of European players, so I'm guessing they would prefer to go there.<span style="color: #669900"> I say give Nagafen all the Euro servers AND Venekor. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> And yeah... we could roll on Nagafen. But when you already have a level 70 toon you've worked on a lot, who'd want to start all over again? In my opinion, that really shouldn't be required.</span><span style="color: #ff3300"> <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </span></blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff3300">If you consider how long SOE is going to drag their [Removed for Content] on any form of server merge, well you could easily have a new level 70 by then.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff3300">I've played several toons on Nagafen...   ...and sorry, while I love the population of Nagafen, I really don't want to go there.  The attitude of the general populace is a little different...</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff3300">Didn't you leave Naggy to roll on Venekor...?</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff3300">SOE should open up limited transfers between PvP servers.  Allow folks to transfer free from the Euro servers to either Venekor or Naggy, also allow free transfers either way between Venekor and Naggy.  Once all this is done merge anyone left on the Euro servers to Venekor.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff3300">This will leave 2 PvP servers, Nagafen and Venekor.  In the event that the transfers caused Venekor to become unviable as a server, then and only then should they merge it with Nagafen.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff3300">My thoughts are that while some on Venekor would leave for Naggy, some on Naggy would also leave for Venekor (I have toons that would).  The Euros would get to choose which of the two they went to. </span></p><p><span style="color: #ff3300">I'm just not sure that one PvP server would be able to handle everyone without lagging and crashing, neither of which are good for PvP.  </span></p>

Xzerius
03-01-2007, 03:34 PM
UGH,  I am not starting over again on a different server. I wiped out all of my T7 PvE toons in exchange for re rolls on venekor where ( just like many others ) I started off broke once again and scrambling for gear, coin, etc... ( it was somewhat refreshing I admit ) Now I have several level 70 crafters....... ( its always easy to find a table or forge to stab ) as well as a 70 assassin and several other T6 toons......   starting over again after going on 3 years of playing is not an option for me.  I fear though that the boredom I have been finding is making me rethink the better placement of my 20 some dollars a month......  Heh, its several pints of Guinness if anything !!!!!!!

Bawang
03-04-2007, 10:42 PM
<p>Venekor is not quite dead, but it's moribund.  It's too bad, Venekor has the nicest population I've experienced on a PvP server.  I hope they do something soon about a merge soon, like before rigor mortis sets in.</p>

Greenion
03-04-2007, 10:55 PM
<p><span style="color: #339900">the upcoming transfers will boost the poppulation of all three pvp servers (vox, ven, nag) to some degree...</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">edit> btw right this very second im leveling safely in an instance...come try and pk me.</span></p>

Armondpb
03-05-2007, 01:53 PM
<p>Well I have started seeing alot of people coming over to PVP on venekor, Loooots of people who just want to try out pvp and end up staying (Like me).. I always treat new people really nice and try to make them gear once I've seen them around a few times.. So just be nice to to people and help 'em out when they first start, that way pvp is a good xp for them=D</p><p>A friend of mine came over from a diffrent sever just to try it out, he just ended up making a guild and brang over alot of people so.. nicer you are=D more people still stay.</p>

Oneira
03-05-2007, 02:21 PM
<cite>Armondpb wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Well I have started seeing alot of people coming over to PVP on venekor, Loooots of people who just want to try out pvp and end up staying (Like me).. I always treat new people really nice and try to make them gear once I've seen them around a few times.. So just be nice to to people and help 'em out when they first start, that way pvp is a good xp for them=D</p><p>A friend of mine came over from a diffrent sever just to try it out, he just ended up making a guild and brang over alot of people so.. nicer you are=D more people still stay.</p></blockquote> I agree here.  Far from dying, I've seen a pickup in the population lately.  Seems there's more Qs out there trying to kill me and more Freepies to group with.  And as a Guardian all I can say is FIIIIIIIIIIINALLY! Excuse me for getting all choked up, but it just tickeles me pink to think that from now on I'll be fighting rangers with a group rather than alone, which usually results in a bunch of arrows sticking in my [Removed for Content].

Kaleyen
03-05-2007, 03:35 PM
Venekor is dead, it's true. I had to stop the car.

Greenion
03-05-2007, 03:53 PM
<p><span style="color: #339900">well...soon you'll be able to transfer to nagafen if you are of the mind to.</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">me, im sticking.</span></p>