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gargonzola
02-24-2007, 04:20 AM
i was killed and lost 26 gold. i am level 19 for crying out loud. how can i lose so much money from being ganked? money is very hard to come by at this low level. i am broke now! if this is how pvp servers are intended to operate you can count me out.

CresentBlade
02-24-2007, 04:24 AM
<cite>gargonzola wrote:</cite><blockquote>i was killed and lost 26 gold. i am level 19 for crying out loud. how can i lose so much money from being ganked? money is very hard to come by at this low level. i am broke now! if this is how pvp servers are intended to operate you can count me out.</blockquote> You drop coin and sometimes items that are in your bags. You should always bank before going into PvP enabled zones, never ever carry coin on you use you have a big escort or just like giving away coin.

tass
02-24-2007, 04:26 AM
who the hell runs around a pvp server with gold on them. Even in vanguard ur not gonna find tons of silver on somone unless they want to lose it.

xXBubblez
02-24-2007, 04:30 AM
<cite>tass wrote:</cite><blockquote>who the hell runs around a pvp server with gold on them. Even in vanguard ur not gonna find tons of silver on somone unless they want to lose it. </blockquote> <span style="color: #66ffff"> kinda unneccasary.  Everyone, specially when they frist started has lost a good amount of money at some point this guy just doesn't know how things work yet. Just use the bank befor you head out.  Dont carry xtra stuff in ur bags unless its attuned/legerndary/mastercrafted/fabled and keep all ur money in the bank you'll be fine won't lose anything.  If you come across a large amount of coin call back and bank it.</span>

gargonzola
02-24-2007, 04:30 AM
<p>i am new to pvp. it never even crossed my mind that you can lose money like mainly because it is stupid as hell. why is there not a cap on it like a percentage or X amount per level. </p><p> edit</p><p>thanks bubblez. </p>

tass
02-24-2007, 04:33 AM
im not even really sure if there is 1. I know ur not supposed to lose it all but the amount that drops I think is just random. Somtimes a small amount drops somtimes half or 3/4ths drops. Both more oftem than not no one has anything on them so u get maby 5 copper which isnt worth crap.

Norrsken
02-24-2007, 06:32 AM
The amount of gold you drop is random, and somewhere in the ballpark of 50 - 75% of what you have on you. Stupid? On the contrary. If YOU killed someone, wouldnt you loot his cash?

Fearborn
02-24-2007, 11:14 AM
<p>Funny post.  Did you expect PvP to be like the other carebear servers?</p><p>You can't just go afk in the middle of a zone, and certainly can't carry your life earnings around with you.</p><p>Sometimes these lessons need to be learnt the hard way.  We have pretty much all lost cash after forgetting to bank.  These frustrating moments are tough, but necessary.  Also, I like that you lose gold and actually think you should lose more.  It's like playing poker for real money.  Afterall, if there is nothing to lose, these is little to gain.</p><p>Alas, if you are feeling like quitting after losing gold once, I don't rate your chances of survival on a PvP server.  Best of luck anyway.</p>

Cantilena
02-24-2007, 11:40 AM
<cite>gargonzola wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>i am new to pvp. it never even crossed my mind that you can lose money like mainly because it is stupid as hell. why is there not a cap on it like a percentage or X amount per level. </p><p> edit</p><p>thanks bubblez. </p></blockquote> The cap is however much you are dumb enough to leave town with, hehe.  (I know that's not nice, but you got to learn the hard way, unfortunately.)

HerbertWalker
02-24-2007, 12:25 PM
<p>Learning the hard way is not required.</p><p>You could read the rules.  That's not hard.</p>

DankShasta
02-24-2007, 01:07 PM
  I lost 60 gold when I was level 23, and I logged out for like three days! I totally understand how you feel. I bet you learned a lesson though, and 26 gold isnt too bad. There are ways to get money at that level. If you are on Nagafen senmd me a tell on Dankstar, in Qeynos, or Dankshasta in Freeport, maybe i can help you alittle, I got some toons in that lvl range. It gets better man, I promise!

Norrsken
02-24-2007, 01:19 PM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote>  I lost 60 gold when I was level 23, and I logged out for like three days! I totally understand how you feel. I bet you learned a lesson though, and 26 gold isnt too bad. There are ways to get money at that level. If you are on Nagafen senmd me a tell on Dankstar, in Qeynos, or Dankshasta in Freeport, maybe i can help you alittle, I got some toons in that lvl range. It gets better man, I promise!</blockquote>yup, there is loot in WC that sells for a few plat. 3+. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> so 26g is easily made back.

CresentBlade
02-24-2007, 10:14 PM
<p>Having the coin drops and item drops makes the game so much more interesting. You never know what you will get on top of the win. If I kill someone and get coin I wont call unless its 50gp or more, this ensures you will see ALOT of PvP very soon and for some time to come untill someone gets ya<img src="/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />. Coin comes and goes dont let it bother you too much, have fun keep at it and you will start to enjoy PvP.</p>

baddogshaun
02-26-2007, 07:36 AM
<p>I like the "scare factor". Running home with a couple of top value rares in my pack after a gather is a lot of fun, going into serious avoid mode, getting chased across antonica when getting caught will cost me a plat or more. I love it. </p><p>(Someone will probably tell me I couldnt lose the rares anyway or something and spoil my fun)</p>

SolomanShort
02-26-2007, 11:07 AM
<p>Baddogshaun did say...</p><p>"I like the "scare factor". Running home with a couple of top value rares in my pack after a gather is a lot of fun, going into serious avoid mode, getting chased across antonica when getting caught will cost me a plat or more. I love it. </p><p>(Someone will probably tell me I couldnt lose the rares anyway or something and spoil my fun)"</p><p><span style="color: #00ccff">Dude, you cannot lose rares in a PvP fight!! Hope that doesn't spoil your fun too much <img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></span></p>

baddogshaun
02-26-2007, 11:15 AM
<p>Lol I did wonder. why on earth not? Seems illogical to me when ingredients get nabbed all the time.</p><p>Ah well, can definitely still lose significant gained money/rewards.</p>

DasUberFuzzy
02-26-2007, 11:17 AM
<cite>HerbertWalker wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Learning the hard way is not required.</p><p>You could read the rules.  That's not hard.</p></blockquote>wanna point to where current PvP rules are at?

Eluzay
02-26-2007, 11:19 AM
<cite>gargonzola wrote:</cite><blockquote>i was killed and lost 26 gold. i am level 19 for crying out loud. how can i lose so much money from being ganked? money is very hard to come by at this low level. i am broke now! if this is how pvp servers are intended to operate you can count me out.</blockquote> just dig up one rough coral and ahve 3 times that  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

LeonL
02-26-2007, 02:31 PM
<b>Fearborn wrote:</b> <p><b>Sometimes these lessons need to be learnt the hard way.  We have pretty much all lost cash after forgetting to bank.  These frustrating moments are tough, but necessary.  Also, I like that you lose gold and actually think you should lose more.  It's like playing poker for real money.  Afterall, if there is nothing to lose, these is little to gain.</b></p><p>You don't know how true this really is. If you really want to 'gamble' on this game, head over to Vox to play. Nothing says reality like being able to sell cash you pilfered or lose cash you bought.</p>

Brigh
02-26-2007, 09:12 PM
<p>There used to be a stickied thread on the old forums, Welcome To the Jungle, a guide to newbie PVP players.</p><p>It doesn't seem to have been brought over though.</p><p>Even without that, there is still the SOE Knowledge Base everyone can read under Help, or read the patch notes, etc.</p><p>The servers started in Feb of 2006. Go back and read them.</p>

Bytrade
10-04-2007, 03:07 PM
I was in a group that killed a Freep carry enough plat that all 4 of us got 12 plat a piece that would really make you mad 26 gp is nothing.

wellehad0
10-04-2007, 03:34 PM
LOL i rember in vanguard on the FFA sever 2 weeks in the game i decided what the heck i took a golf farmer up on his offer adn bought 100G with real money.. and we all know gold was not cheap the first week or two of the game.. lol i picked it up out of the mail box and was ganked over and over again jsut tying to get to the mailbox.. peopel in waves where camping me to revive so that they could kill me again... ROFL i almost S,h.it myself that day

Greenion
10-04-2007, 03:34 PM
<cite>gargonzola wrote:</cite><blockquote>i was killed and lost 26 gold. i am level 19 for crying out loud. how can i lose so much money from being ganked? money is very hard to come by at this low level. i am broke now! if this is how pvp servers are intended to operate you can count me out.</blockquote><p><span style="color: #00ff00;"><span style="color: #339900;">if</span>...<span style="color: #339900;">money is that hard come by at that low a level</span>...<span style="color: #339900;">for you</span>...</span></p><p><span style="color: #00ff00;"><span style="color: #339900;">then</span>...<span style="color: #339900;">why</span>...<span style="color: #339900;">were you carrying it in a zone where a portion of it could be taken from you</span>?</span></p><p><span style="color: #00ff00;"><span style="color: #339900;">to that level of char 1<span style="color: #00ff00;">/</span>4 plat is a fortune</span>...<span style="color: #339900;">way more than coin picked up adventuring for a session</span>...<span style="color: #339900;">or ten</span>...</span></p>

Armironhead
10-04-2007, 04:52 PM
<cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite><blockquote>I was in a group that killed a Freep carry enough plat that all 4 of us got 12 plat a piece that would really make you mad 26 gp is nothing.</blockquote>Man, that makes me wish I was on Ven.  Best I have ever done was an EOF treasured item that I took from a q that I sold for 3p.

SteveOmatiC
10-04-2007, 05:03 PM
Dude don't feel so bad about losing 26g you could have been this poor guy<img src="http://bp2.blogger.com/_55P1ihdI44U/RwVF1qZpFyI/AAAAAAAAACw/rQaTj9dau-c/s1600/EQ2_000006.jpg" border="0" alt="" />

Killque
10-04-2007, 05:09 PM
<cite>gargonzola wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>i am new to pvp. it never even crossed my mind that you can lose money like mainly because it is stupid as hell. why is there not a cap on it like a percentage or X amount per level. </p><p> edit</p><p>thanks bubblez. </p></blockquote><p>Its stupid as hell alright, untill your the one on the recieving end. Its a good system, trust me. Dont feel too bad tho, I had 14pp on me once and got uber ganked by a ranger after I soloed a yellow. I had over 300pp in the bank at the time so I wasnt that upset about it, I was just upset I gave ot to a Q =/</p><p>Most i have ever looted tho was 19pp, so I made up for it.</p><p>I logged onto my PVE toon a while ago and was just freaking out when I saw he had like 4 plat on him lol.</p>

novok
10-04-2007, 06:00 PM
Hehehe seeing as OP posted this on Feb 23, I sincerely hope he's over it by now.

Ze
10-04-2007, 07:09 PM
<cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Baddogshaun did say...</p><p>"I like the "scare factor". Running home with a couple of top value rares in my pack after a gather is a lot of fun, going into serious avoid mode, getting chased across antonica when getting caught will cost me a plat or more. I love it. </p><p>(Someone will probably tell me I couldnt lose the rares anyway or something and spoil my fun)"</p><p><span style="color: #00ccff;">Dude, you cannot lose rares in a PvP fight!! Hope that doesn't spoil your fun too much <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" width="15" height="15" /></span></p></blockquote>Are you sure? I could have sworn I lost some ductile loam a couple of nights ago in pvp....

Greenion
10-04-2007, 08:26 PM
<span style="color: #00ff00;"><span style="color: #339900;">rares are<span style="color: #00ff00;"> "</span>treasured<span style="color: #00ff00;">" </span>items</span>. <span style="color: #339900;">lootable i believe</span>, <span style="color: #339900;">just like an unattuned avg quest reward wearable item</span>.</span>

ladyvengeance
10-05-2007, 12:15 AM
<p>What's the most you've taken off someone? Once I was in NQ doing a betrayal quest with my conj. and someone decided to attack me. I killed him and took over 5 plat and called home on his dead corpse. </p>

Norrsken
10-05-2007, 04:17 AM
<cite>Greenion wrote:</cite><blockquote><span style="color: #00ff00;"><span style="color: #339900;">rares are<span style="color: #00ff00;"> "</span>treasured<span style="color: #00ff00;">" </span>items</span>. <span style="color: #339900;">lootable i believe</span>, <span style="color: #339900;">just like an unattuned avg quest reward wearable item</span>.</span></blockquote>They used to be legendary, then they turned them into treasured, and they were dropping like crazy. Everyone was happy. then the devs made a special rule for rares so they dont drop.I've been running around for half a year to a year with a bunch of rares on my sk to see if they drop. still havent dropped one.Neither have I ever looted one since they supposedly made them not drop. I think they actaully should change it back to fabled and worse will drop. Like it was when pvp was fresh. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

SolomanShort
10-05-2007, 04:37 AM
<cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Baddogshaun did say...</p><p>"I like the "scare factor". Running home with a couple of top value rares in my pack after a gather is a lot of fun, going into serious avoid mode, getting chased across antonica when getting caught will cost me a plat or more. I love it. </p><p>(Someone will probably tell me I couldnt lose the rares anyway or something and spoil my fun)"</p><p><span style="color: #00ccff;">Dude, you cannot lose rares in a PvP fight!! Hope that doesn't spoil your fun too much <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" /></span></p></blockquote>I wrote that on 26th feb! Seems this is an old old thread, hehe.On topic a little bit more, and in answer to somebody elses question...<img src="http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9163/biglootcropto1.jpg" alt="" border="0" />Happy days!

Spyderbite
10-05-2007, 09:45 AM
Murphy's Law States:The odds of getting ganked are proportionate to the amount of plat carried on ones person.Bank before Gank. Learn it, love it, live it. /nodsAnd, to the OP.. don't feel bad. No matter what level or how long you've been playing.. you will make the same mistake again.. probably several times in your EQ2 career.I nearly peed myself last night when I realized I spent 2 hours out in SS harvesting and two very close fights with 3 plat on me. :/

Greenion
10-05-2007, 09:52 AM
<cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Greenion wrote:</cite><blockquote><span style="color: #00ff00;"><span style="color: #339900;">rares are<span style="color: #00ff00;"> "</span>treasured<span style="color: #00ff00;">" </span>items</span>. <span style="color: #339900;">lootable i believe</span>, <span style="color: #339900;">just like an unattuned avg quest reward wearable item</span>.</span></blockquote>They used to be legendary, then they turned them into treasured, and they were dropping like crazy. Everyone was happy. then the devs made a special rule for rares so they dont drop.I've been running around for half a year to a year with a bunch of rares on my sk to see if they drop. still havent dropped one.Neither have I ever looted one since they supposedly made them not drop. I think they actaully should change it back to fabled and worse will drop. Like it was when pvp was fresh. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" width="15" height="15" /></blockquote><p><span style="color: #339900;">hmmmm i thought they did...most often i dont lose any items (i lose coin if i have it) but more often than not i dont lose items...extra food/drink, extra ranged ammo, stuff that has dropped...etc...not alot of items drop off me.</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900;">i have looted items and have dropped them, but that isnt the majority of the time (whether this is a result of no itmes available to be dropped or that ones available dont often drop, i dunno)</span></p>

Wytie
10-05-2007, 10:08 AM
<cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite><blockquote>Murphy's Law States:<b>The odds of getting ganked are proportionate to the amount of plat carried on ones person.</b>Bank before Gank. Learn it, love it, live it. /nodsAnd, to the OP.. don't feel bad. No matter what level or how long you've been playing.. you will make the same mistake again.. probably several times in your EQ2 career.I nearly peed myself last night when I realized I spent 2 hours out in SS harvesting and two very close fights with 3 plat on me. :/</blockquote><img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />  so true heh

Grimfort
10-05-2007, 10:19 AM
A member of my guild lost 136plat in one hit once, now thats gotta be a record. Apparently he banked it, even his log shows he banked it, but somehow still lost it.

Bloodfa
10-05-2007, 11:01 AM
<cite>Grimfort wrote:</cite><blockquote>A member of my guild lost 136plat in one hit once, now thats gotta be a record.Apparently he banked it, even his log shows he banked it, but somehow still lost it.</blockquote>136 plat.  In one shot.  I'd like to see that on Nagafen.

Elephanton
10-05-2007, 11:09 AM
<p>Rares do not drop, period.</p>

Leorange
10-05-2007, 12:24 PM
<p>Periods are not rare, drop.</p><p>I cried the day I lost 19 gold. I was surprised the day I looted 8 plat. Strange enough, the first made more impression and really hooked me to this pvp game ...for revenge, but still. </p><p>I bet it's that loosing - money fame or titles - that keeps players to log in EQ2 lol.</p>

Aerlyn
10-05-2007, 12:26 PM
<cite>Zerp wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Baddogshaun did say...</p><p>"I like the "scare factor". Running home with a couple of top value rares in my pack after a gather is a lot of fun, going into serious avoid mode, getting chased across antonica when getting caught will cost me a plat or more. I love it. </p><p>(Someone will probably tell me I couldnt lose the rares anyway or something and spoil my fun)"</p><p><span style="color: #00ccff;">Dude, you cannot lose rares in a PvP fight!! Hope that doesn't spoil your fun too much <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img mce_tsrc=" />" width="15" height="15" /></span></p></blockquote>Are you sure? I could have sworn I lost some ductile loam a couple of nights ago in pvp....</blockquote>I'm pretty sure that I lost a rare in an encounter as well.  I was fighting against the Work Bench in one of the tradeskill instances.  Darn you, Work Bench!

Bloodfa
10-05-2007, 12:58 PM
<cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Zerp wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>[email protected] wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Baddogshaun did say...</p><p>"I like the "scare factor". Running home with a couple of top value rares in my pack after a gather is a lot of fun, going into serious avoid mode, getting chased across antonica when getting caught will cost me a plat or more. I love it. </p><p>(Someone will probably tell me I couldnt lose the rares anyway or something and spoil my fun)"</p><p><span style="color: #00ccff;">Dude, you cannot lose rares in a PvP fight!! Hope that doesn't spoil your fun too much <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img mce_tsrc=" width="15" height="15" />" width="15" height="15" /></span></p></blockquote>Are you sure? I could have sworn I lost some ductile loam a couple of nights ago in pvp....</blockquote>I'm pretty sure that I lost a rare in an encounter as well.  I was fighting against the Work Bench in one of the tradeskill instances.  Darn you, Work Bench!</blockquote>See?  That's why people have a negative impression of PvP!  You weren't aware of your surroundings, plain & simple.  Did it ever even occur to you that the <i>other</i> two workbenches would jump in to try to grab some fame?  Just be glad the Chemistry tables didn't /raid your butt.  Onevone petnames don't guarantee you a fair shake, as nothing's fair in life.  People like you are ruining PvP with all your whining!  I mean, three to one odds and you still picked a fight?!?!?!  Did you use a tradekill charm?  Did you have power regen buffs running?  You've got noone to blame but yourself.

Zaci
10-05-2007, 10:10 PM
Jeez, all the references to new people to pvp..... The other day, I was out in TT and some green wizard I haave never seen before was soloing some, so I attacked him and looted 5p off him, then ran by an hour later, got him again, and got 2.5 plat off him=P True story, ask Otoniel, he almost mugged me even tho I was farming him manacles for his swash<img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Halanna
10-05-2007, 10:52 PM
<cite>tass wrote:</cite><blockquote>who the hell runs around a pvp server with gold on them. Even in vanguard ur not gonna find tons of silver on somone unless they want to lose it.</blockquote><p>Then there should be a warning message when you are leaving any banker, "WARNING if you choose to venture out with gold and platinum on your person, other adventurers may kill you and take some or all your funds!"</p><p>In UO, no one carried anything valuable.  But only veteran players knew this.  It's unlikely new players know this in EQ2.  The fact that SOE is giving away the game (expansions and adventure packs) it can't be assumed that every new player knows every single little tiny rule.</p><p>Edit: I can spell, sometimes . . .</p>