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Adjorr
02-22-2007, 05:03 AM
Heres the laters exploit i've seen freeps using. Find a quenocian 20 or 30 levels lower than u, wait till he fights somethign big, then charm the monster he is fighting, thus makign himaor her an eligable pvp target! Wow isnt this great guys? more ways for the fp to cheat!!!!!! Coercrers especially!!!!! Its bad enough a level 70 is a lowwed to heal a level 12 from outside group for thousands of points makign him nearly invincible to anyoen in his level range! PVP just gets better for you freeporters everyday dosent it? But thats what u are arent u freeporters? Cheating exploiting bullys who run from even fights and will not hesitate to group gank someone 20 levels lower than u? WoW looks more apealing everyday

Adjorr
02-22-2007, 05:06 AM
Also the other charm exploit is that u can charm a pe thats an agro mob, walk it over to where the afk player standing on the revive poitn still immune is, release ur monster and watch it attack the afk player, and then since his immunity from pvp is now gone from beign in comabt with a mob, u can happily gank away at him! More fun for all the evil freeporters, if i wasnt such a good guy i'd be living in ur city, but i believe in fair game play, even battles, and not exploiting game bugs for free kills, guess that makes me a quenocian.

Kurindor_Mythecnea
02-22-2007, 05:13 AM
Dude, Illusionists are not a class and Bards are not a neutral base tree! [Removed for Content] are you thinking?

Oneira
02-22-2007, 05:47 AM
Latest exploit?   Coercers and Troubadors have been doing this since about day 2. SOE long ago issued a statement saying that this was not an exploit but something that is permissible by the rules. Learn to lock your encounters.

Deadly Nightshadow
02-22-2007, 05:50 AM
<cite>Adjorr wrote:</cite><blockquote>Also the other charm exploit is that u can charm a pe thats an agro mob, walk it over to where the afk player standing on the revive poitn still immune is, release ur monster and watch it attack the afk player, and then since his immunity from pvp is now gone from beign in comabt with a mob, u can happily gank away at him! More fun for all the evil freeporters, if i wasnt such a good guy i'd be living in ur city, but i believe in fair game play, even battles, and not exploiting game bugs for free kills, guess that makes me a quenocian.</blockquote><p>Sorry, I must be missing you here....Only Freeps exploit? Sorry Qs, who have you got in T4? Oh yeah! SHREK! The biggest exploiter I have ever seen. This guy can't win a single fight without jumping on somebody else's kiill or exploiting, even if they're green!</p><p> Some Freeps might exploint but so do Qs. I find that an analogy for this situation would be the [Removed for Content] SS. These guys had skulls on their helmets but they didn't think of themselves as the "bad guys", did they? Same with Qs. You guys have exploiters but you don't notice because it doesn't affect you. </p>

Adjorr
02-22-2007, 05:57 AM
So ur tellign me that having ur pvp immunity broken by a recently released charmed mob is permisable by the rules??? then what is the point of being imune after u revive if it can jsut be taken away from u by the first person to stroll along with a charmed pet?

Adjorr
02-22-2007, 06:07 AM
And if this charm a mob someone is attackign is permisbble ( yes i did figure out shortly after that auto-lockign encounters will prevent it) why is it permissible? and why is outside healing still permissible? things liek these ruin game play, no lowbie realyl wants to haev to fight level 70 healers coercers bards illusionists or anythign that can do these thigns do they? And if u are a lowbie and enjoy getting attacked by peopel much much higher level then u, or not being able to kill somebody beause they haev ahelaer near by who is much much higher level, then plz speak up now

Norrsken
02-22-2007, 06:25 AM
Grats OP. you found an exploit that has been around since the PvP servers came online, and not been overly sued. Also, it is useable by everyone with the right items. And oh, yeah. Its getting fixed the next update. So are OOR healers. Grats on jumping the bandwagon a little late.

Deadly Nightshadow
02-22-2007, 06:36 AM
<cite>Adjorr wrote:</cite><blockquote>So <u><span style="color: #990000"><i><b>you're</b></i></span> <span style="color: #990000"><b><i>telling</i></b></span></u> me that having ur pvp immunity broken by a recently released charmed mob is permisable by the rules?<strike><span style="color: #990000"><i><b><u>??</u></b></i></span></strike> then what is the point of being <span style="color: #990000"><b><i><u>immune</u></i></b></span> after u revive if it can <span style="color: #990000"><i><b><u>just</u> </b></i></span>be taken away from <span style="color: #990000"><i><b><u>you</u> </b></i></span>by the first person to stroll along with a charmed pet?</blockquote><p> /sigh. No, you idiot. I'm saying that BOTH sides exploit. For the love of god, learn to read and spell. I've taken the time to point out what you couldn't be arsed to check/fix/type in full. Also, one question mark will do. So, I have a 3 point plan to posting for you.</p><ul><li> 1: Read the post</li><li> 2: Type things in full and spellcheck</li><li> 3: Don't be an idiot. More punctuation isn't neccesarily better. </li></ul><p>Hopefully all your posts excluding your 5 current posts will be better by following this simple guide.</p><p> Edit- Needed to correct a typo</p>

Norrsken
02-22-2007, 06:39 AM
Deadly Nightshadow wrote: <blockquote><cite>Adjorr wrote:</cite><blockquote>So <u><span style="color: #990000"><i><b>you're</b></i></span> <span style="color: #990000"><b><i>telling</i></b></span></u> me that having ur pvp immunity broken by a recently released charmed mob is permisable by the rules?<strike><span style="color: #990000"><i><b><u>??</u></b></i></span></strike> then what is the point of being <span style="color: #990000"><b><i><u>immune</u></i></b></span> after u revive if it can <span style="color: #990000"><i><b><u>just</u> </b></i></span>be taken away from <span style="color: #990000"><i><b><u>you</u> </b></i></span>by the first person to stroll along with a charmed pet?</blockquote><p> /sigh. No, you idiot. I'm saying that BOTH sides exploit. For the love of god, learn to read and spell. I've taken the time to point out what you couldn't be arsed to check/fix/type in full. Also, one question mark will do. So, I have a 3 point plan to posting for you.</p><ul><li> 1: Read the post</li><li> 2: Type things in full and spellcheck</li><li> 3: Don't be an idiot. More punctuation isn't neccesarily better. </li></ul><p>Hopefully all your posts excluding your 5 current posts will be better by following this simple guide.</p><p> Edit- Needed to correct a typo</p></blockquote>Hehe. You caught it before I got to point it out. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Deadly Nightshadow
02-22-2007, 06:42 AM
<cite>Norrsken wrote:</cite><blockquote>Deadly Nightshadow wrote: <blockquote><cite>Adjorr wrote:</cite><blockquote>So <u><span style="color: #990000"><i><b>you're</b></i></span> <span style="color: #990000"><b><i>telling</i></b></span></u> me that having ur pvp immunity broken by a recently released charmed mob is permisable by the rules?<strike><span style="color: #990000"><i><b><u>??</u></b></i></span></strike> then what is the point of being <span style="color: #990000"><b><i><u>immune</u></i></b></span> after u revive if it can <span style="color: #990000"><i><b><u>just</u> </b></i></span>be taken away from <span style="color: #990000"><i><b><u>you</u> </b></i></span>by the first person to stroll along with a charmed pet?</blockquote><p> /sigh. No, you idiot. I'm saying that BOTH sides exploit. For the love of god, learn to read and spell. I've taken the time to point out what you couldn't be arsed to check/fix/type in full. Also, one question mark will do. So, I have a 3 point plan to posting for you.</p><ul><li> 1: Read the post</li><li> 2: Type things in full and spellcheck</li><li> 3: Don't be an idiot. More punctuation isn't neccesarily better. </li></ul><p>Hopefully all your posts excluding your 5 current posts will be better by following this simple guide.</p><p> Edit- Needed to correct a typo</p></blockquote>Hehe. You caught it before I got to point it out. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </blockquote> Hehe, always happy to help <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Adjorr
02-22-2007, 07:00 AM
1. I dont need it to be pointed out to me how many typos i make, i frankly dotn wory aobut ti as logn as its determinable what i am tryign to say does it matter how i type it? 2. i didnt start this post to determine which side exploited more, i started it to end the exploitation. 3. thanks for informing me that these thigns are being fixed that was the answer i was lookign for, no tthe rantings osf atyoping puurrfecctionisht

Adjorr
02-22-2007, 07:06 AM
Also nightshadow the post that starts with so ur tellings me.... etc etc, was a response to the post above your first post, where someone had said it was permisible in the rules, not a response to ur post about how q's exploit 2, maybe u shoudl be the one learning to read? [Removed for Content]

Dannd
02-22-2007, 08:07 AM
<cite>Adjorr wrote:</cite><blockquote>1. I dont need it to be pointed out to me how many typos i make, i frankly dotn wory aobut ti as logn as its determinable what i am tryign to say does it matter how i type it? 2. i didnt start this post to determine which side exploited more, i started it to end the exploitation. 3. thanks for informing me that these thigns are being fixed that was the answer i was lookign for, no tthe rantings osf atyoping puurrfecctionisht </blockquote><p> I have a headache reading this.  Enter key is your friend.<img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>And, I miss the old emoticons...</p>

Rattfa
02-22-2007, 09:20 AM
On test server at the moment: <p><b>*** PVP ***</b></p><p><b>You can no longer charm a mob that is fighting a player if you are not grouped with them.</b> Various crafted poison should now have proper chat window notification when used against players in PvP combat. In level limited zones, players will no longer be able to heal those outside their level range unless they are grouped together. Level ranges for the zone will now also display in chat when you zone and within the map window. The stun effect from Rain Caller has been reduced to 1 second in PvP combat. Zoning is now currently disabled while fighting another player.</p>

Kurindor_Mythecnea
02-22-2007, 10:43 AM
Srslys...there's like a good quarter threads that could've been resolved if everyone just tended to update notes like they ought.  <img src="/smilies/e78feac27fa924c4d0ad6cf5819f3554.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

songsta
02-22-2007, 11:13 AM
wow this is as old as the out of combat healer bug...lock your encounters or wait for the next update =] happy happy joy joy!

Strums
02-22-2007, 11:48 AM
what a painful read.../sigh

ToejaM t
02-22-2007, 11:59 AM
Troubadour is fun ;>

Deadly Nightshadow
02-22-2007, 12:06 PM
<cite>Adjorr wrote:</cite><blockquote>Also nightshadow the post that starts with so ur tellings me.... etc etc, was a response to the post above your first post, where someone had said it was permisible in the rules, not a response to ur post about how q's exploit 2, maybe u shoudl be the one learning to read? [Removed for Content]</blockquote> Then you should quote to avoid confusion. My points still stand.

zorros
02-22-2007, 02:07 PM
<cite>Adjorr wrote:</cite><blockquote>Heres the laters exploit i've seen freeps using. Find a quenocian 20 or 30 levels lower than u, wait till he fights somethign big, then charm the monster he is fighting, thus makign himaor her an eligable pvp target! Wow isnt this great guys? more ways for the fp to cheat!!!!!! Coercrers especially!!!!! Its bad enough a level 70 is a lowwed to heal a level 12 from outside group for thousands of points makign him nearly invincible to anyoen in his level range! PVP just gets better for you<span style="font-size: large"> freeporters</span> everyday dosent it? But thats what u are arent u <span style="font-size: large">freeporters?</span> Cheating exploiting bullys who run from even fights and will not hesitate to group gank someone 20 levels lower than u? WoW looks more apealing everyday</blockquote><p> Q troubs can and do also use this trick as can Illusionist with aa charm.</p><p>One thing i will say is when a coercer etc breaks charm the pet becomes aggro to the charmer NOT to the pc nearest.Unless the charmer zones and rezones then yes it will attack you.</p><p>Both sides exploits the game in some way and i have played on both sides to know this.</p>

Norrsken
02-23-2007, 05:34 AM
<cite>zorros wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Adjorr wrote:</cite><blockquote>Heres the laters exploit i've seen freeps using. Find a quenocian 20 or 30 levels lower than u, wait till he fights somethign big, then charm the monster he is fighting, thus makign himaor her an eligable pvp target! Wow isnt this great guys? more ways for the fp to cheat!!!!!! Coercrers especially!!!!! Its bad enough a level 70 is a lowwed to heal a level 12 from outside group for thousands of points makign him nearly invincible to anyoen in his level range! PVP just gets better for you<span style="font-size: large"> freeporters</span> everyday dosent it? But thats what u are arent u <span style="font-size: large">freeporters?</span> Cheating exploiting bullys who run from even fights and will not hesitate to group gank someone 20 levels lower than u? WoW looks more apealing everyday</blockquote><p> Q troubs can and do also use this trick as can Illusionist with aa charm.</p><p>One thing i will say is when a coercer etc breaks charm the pet becomes aggro to the charmer NOT to the pc nearest.Unless the charmer zones and rezones then yes it will attack you.</p><p>Both sides exploits the game in some way and i have played on both sides to know this.</p></blockquote>Actually, they must have changed charm for it to work like that, since way back, I used to drop my pets on people on occasion. Like, during summer. Though, they may have changed it. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Not like I keep track of all these oddities I keep finding. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Leorange
02-23-2007, 01:09 PM
<cite>Adjorr wrote:</cite><blockquote> puurrfecctionisht </blockquote><p><b><i>Google wrote:</i></b></p><span style="color: #ffffcc"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: small">Your search - <b>puurrfecctionisht</b> - did not match any documents.</span></span> </span><p>  LOL <img src="/smilies/ed515dbff23a0ee3241dcc0a601c9ed6.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Pretty awesome.. zero hits on google. </p><p>As did the topic: didn't hit a point that wasn't mentioned in Update Notes earlier.</p><p><span style="font-size: xx-small">edit: pasting from Word doesnt work.</span></p>