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Squigglle
02-19-2007, 02:42 PM
for the strange black rock quest, i did everything but kill the tome of life. i waited for it for like few hours yesterday, nothing.... so just like 15 mintues ago i went to it. it was there! i started casting inferno and some idiots come out of no were and pull it just before my spell cast. <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

UlteriorModem
02-19-2007, 02:48 PM
Bummer /shrug

DngrMou
02-19-2007, 03:08 PM
<cite>Squigglle wrote:</cite><blockquote>for the strange black rock quest, i did everything but kill the tome of life. i waited for it for like few hours yesterday, nothing.... so just like 15 mintues ago i went to it. it was there! i started casting inferno and some idiots come out of no were and pull it just before my spell cast. <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></blockquote><p> Next time, either run up and get aggro that way, or cast your fastest spell on it, before the inviso-farmers can spring their little surprise.</p><p>Also, and I don't know which ones work, but some totems give you see invis, or see stealth.  Find em, and use em.  If you're there, and you see them...send tells...if they don't respond, stand exactly where the book spawns, and be ready to swing at it.</p>

Iseabeil
02-19-2007, 03:27 PM
<p>When I camp a named for an update or whatnot in an area that is agro to me, Ill generally kill the PH and then invis untill respawn then kill new PH or named. From yer post ye say ye camped him yesterday with no luck and then day after ye go there and he is up when ye arrive and some invis folks kill it... With so little info in the post its impossible to say wether those folks were plat farmers or regular players, but I can say for sure that Id be *very* unhappy if Im camping a mob that I need and suddenly when it finally spawns someone runs in and nukes it just before Im to engage. If a named within the PH system is up, that means someone killed the PH for one or another reason and I doubt anyone would do it so someone else can kill the named. When I see a named mob up that I havent spawned myself, I always try to make sure that there isnt anyone nearby about to pull before I even consider attacking, as I know how annoyed Id be in oposite situation.</p>

SteelPiston
02-19-2007, 03:30 PM
<p>I thought the old saying was " All good things come to those who wait"...except in your case that is....hehe.</p><p>It's happened to me in the past and probably will again. Those invisble campers are a pain in the rear. There should be some sort of warning or proximity sensor to other players in non PvP play so that you know that somebody has a place staked out already. </p>

UlteriorModem
02-19-2007, 03:59 PM
<cite>SteelPiston wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I thought the old saying was " All good things come to those who wait"...except in your case that is....hehe.</p><p>It's happened to me in the past and probably will again. Those invisble campers are a pain in the rear. There should be some sort of warning or proximity sensor to other players in non PvP play so that you know that somebody has a place staked out already. </p></blockquote><p> Hrmm... I can see that leading to problems in pvp situations.</p><p>A see invis token or skill helps as was mentioned earlier.</p><p>But certainly the invisi campers should have said something to the "intruder".</p>

Sotaudi
02-19-2007, 04:39 PM
<cite>Squigglle wrote:</cite><blockquote>for the strange black rock quest, i did everything but kill the tome of life. i waited for it for like few hours yesterday, nothing.... so just like 15 mintues ago i went to it. it was there! i started casting inferno and some idiots come out of no were and pull it just before my spell cast. <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></blockquote><p> It is always annoying when someone pulls a mob you are just starting to attack.  However, you said they came out of nowhere.  That could mean two things.</p><p>First, they may not have known you were there.  They could have run in, seen the mob, and attacked it before you rendered on their screen.  It happens all the time.  Even if you were rendered, you could have been in a place where they did not notice you.  Likewise, the mob may not have even rendered on their screen yet, and they may have run in thinking the room was empty, and inadvertently drawn aggro, then hit it before you defending themselves without ever even knowing you were there.  There could be a number of explanations in that regard that is not necessarily due to the fact that they were idiots.</p><p>Second, and more likely from your description, they could have already been there.  That mob spawns from placeholders.   So if you "went to it" and "it was there," it means that someone had been killing placeholders before you showed up, probably repeatedly.  Therefore, it could well be that the opposite of the above happend.  You ran in, saw the mob before <i>they</i> rendered on your screen, and <i>you</i> started to attack right as they did.  Likewise, if someone was killing placeholders, it could well be that they were still there, waiting for the spawn, and invisible to avoid drawing unwated aggro while they waited.  Then, right as it spawned, you showed up and started to take their mob, so they attacked.  If they came from the hallway, it could be that they spawned the Tome, got wiped, and got back just in time to find you starting to attack the mob they spawned.  It is, therefore, more likely that you were about to take a mob that they spawned rather than you were the first one there, and they took it from you.  So, again, "idiots" may be highly unwarranted.</p>

Slapfish
02-19-2007, 08:02 PM
<p>The exact same thing happened to me when I needed that MOB for the first toon I ever levelled. Was playing a Mystic and there was no way I could solo it. I was waiting for my guildies who were on their way when a couple burst into the room. I sent them tells right away asking them not to kill it and telling them I needed it and they killed it anyway. I wouldn't have cared if they asked me to join them, but to just kill it and run off was just thoughtless. Turns out they didn't even need it, they were just running around killing stuff. I was so PO'd.  </p><p>It sucks. </p>

Barakuz
02-19-2007, 08:17 PM
<p>Something similar happened to a group I was in a couple of months ago, we were in PoA for an update for the Claymore.</p><p>We get to the top floor, clearing mobs in order to spawn the dragon...our Mystic says "Checkout the group by the elevator" non of us can see anything, including those in the group with see invis...so we proceed to make fun of him for seeing things - LOL. Sure enough, the dragon spawns and the 'Stealthed' farmer group, unstealths and pull him before we had chance to engage the encounter. Loots the chest, and re-stealths waiting for either the room to re-spawn or another group to come up and do all the hard work of clearing the room. Needless to say we were very annoyed. Sent them tells describing our displeasure, they however just ignored us and waited for the next group of unsuspecting victims. Bunch of plat whoring scumbag farmers IMHO - with no morals or honor.</p><p>Barakuzz</p>

Sotaudi
02-20-2007, 08:37 PM
<cite>Barakuz wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Something similar happened to a group I was in a couple of months ago, we were in PoA for an update for the Claymore.</p><p>We get to the top floor, clearing mobs in order to spawn the dragon...our Mystic says "Checkout the group by the elevator" non of us can see anything, including those in the group with see invis...so we proceed to make fun of him for seeing things - LOL. Sure enough, the dragon spawns and the 'Stealthed' farmer group, unstealths and pull him before we had chance to engage the encounter. Loots the chest, and re-stealths waiting for either the room to re-spawn or another group to come up and do all the hard work of clearing the room. Needless to say we were very annoyed. Sent them tells describing our displeasure, they however just ignored us and waited for the next group of unsuspecting victims. Bunch of plat whoring scumbag farmers IMHO - with no morals or honor.</p><p>Barakuzz</p></blockquote> This would be a reportable offense.  It is one thing to come up on a contested mob and take it before someone else can attack.  Since it is contested, it is fair game.  But what this group was doing is monopolizing content, which is forbidden under the zone disruption clauses of the EULA.  If they are truly camping the area, letting others spawn a needed mob, then taking it from them, they are violating the EULA.

rimalz2747
02-20-2007, 08:48 PM
<cite>Squigglle wrote:</cite><blockquote>for the strange black rock quest, i did everything but kill the tome of life. i waited for it for like few hours yesterday, nothing.... so just like 15 mintues ago i went to it. it was there! i started casting inferno and some idiots come out of no were and pull it just before my spell cast. <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></blockquote>Named mob that drops loot, cast a quicker spell next time. It's a dog-eat-dog world baby.