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rimalz2747
02-18-2007, 01:51 AM
Did you know, that you can't /ignore a Guide? There's an "Elder Guide" on Butcherblock, that roleplays in .. (?) trollspeak? I find it personally a little mind-twisting, distracting, so I put 'em on ignore -- who am I to mess with somebody's RP fun. Except.. I can't ignore them! Their text still comes thru even though they're ignored. Well, it's a low level channel (1-9, actually), so I left the channel, no big deal I guess. But.. I don't think it's very cool that being a guide is a license to annoy -- working as intended? Edit: I've never tried to ignore a guide before, no idea if it's all guides or because this one is an 'elder guide'. Just for clarification.

Ogrebe
02-18-2007, 06:02 AM
you sure you didn't spell the name wrong. Almost every guide i've seen has never used any of the chat channels, to the point that i would almost think there not alowed to use them

rimalz2747
02-18-2007, 05:54 PM
It's not the first one I've seen in the level channels talking, but yeah I left-clicked on their name in the chat channel to do the initial ignore, then the who when I realized I was still seeing there meesa wanna eatsa halfing crappo and that's when I realized they were a guide (er, so no, wasnt a name spelling issue). Not a huge deal, I left the channel for a while and just rejoined it a few hrs later.. just pointing out, I guess, that not being able to ignore guides is probably a bad idea.

Mareth
02-18-2007, 06:05 PM
On Splitpaw there are no guides to ignore :/

Wingrider01
02-18-2007, 09:08 PM
<cite>rimalz2747 wrote:</cite><blockquote>It's not the first one I've seen in the level channels talking, but yeah I left-clicked on their name in the chat channel to do the initial ignore, then the who when I realized I was still seeing there meesa wanna eatsa halfing crappo and that's when I realized they were a guide (er, so no, wasnt a name spelling issue). Not a huge deal, I left the channel for a while and just rejoined it a few hrs later.. just pointing out, I guess, that not being able to ignore guides is probably a bad idea. </blockquote> Guides are flagged as CSR's you cannot ignore a CSR flagged account

rimalz2747
02-18-2007, 10:34 PM
Cool. Anyway.. They really shouldn't have license to annoy.

sayitaintso
02-18-2007, 11:12 PM
If it's the same as EQ1, you can't ignore them.  I was a Senior Guide in EQ1....Same thing was true there. We were encouraged to role play as much as possible...It was fun, then the "supervisor" of the guides on my server became power hungry, begin to make outrageous demands and a bunch of us left the guide service....they rewarded her incompetence by putting her in charge of the whole program...Way to go J!

Llach
02-19-2007, 03:48 AM
<cite>Mareth wrote:</cite><blockquote>On Splitpaw there are no guides to ignore :/ </blockquote> Met a few in my time on Splitpaw.

Wingrider01
02-19-2007, 10:19 AM
<cite>rimalz2747 wrote:</cite><blockquote>Cool. Anyway.. They really shouldn't have license to annoy. </blockquote> It is called rolePlay - which is what their job is now.

cruinne
02-19-2007, 11:48 AM
I'd suggest sending the guide a tell.  I know a few, and they seriously don't want to annoy people -- they just want to get people interacting and having fun and all that stuff <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Be tactful, of course, but if you find a person using trollspeak on a level channel to RP annoying, it's quite possible others do too, and making this known to the person doing couldn't hurt.  I mean, I'd find it annoying on my server the same way I find people spamming their crafting ads in level chat annoying.   And since you can't ignore this person, they should know that too (it's possible they don't!).       Tactful -- the key, heh <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Wingrider01
02-19-2007, 12:40 PM
<cite>cruinne wrote:</cite><blockquote>I'd suggest sending the guide a tell.  I know a few, and they seriously don't want to annoy people -- they just want to get people interacting and having fun and all that stuff <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Be tactful, of course, but if you find a person using trollspeak on a level channel to RP annoying, it's quite possible others do too, and making this known to the person doing couldn't hurt.  I mean, I'd find it annoying on my server the same way I find people spamming their crafting ads in level chat annoying.   And since you can't ignore this person, they should know that too (it's possible they don't!).       Tactful -- the key, heh <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </blockquote> Correct, just rememebr not to come back in a minth and complain that the servers do not have any events put on by Soe

SinisterScaledAgent
02-19-2007, 07:23 PM
<p>from the many servers ive jumped around on a lot of guides just simply do not even go into level chats cause of the crap we as players give them i.e. stupid requests, acting stupid, showing hostility, etc.</p><p>maybe they would be better suited on LDL and AB servers but its at least nice to see a presence even on a non-rp server despite this being a, more or less, rp game. would be even nicer if they could do more events.</p><p>i wouldnt see this as the ability to annoy, i mean if youre above the 1-10 levels....disable the chat, the 60 to 70 chat is somewhat better...pending on server but, if theyre sticking to the lower level channels and its bothering you...make an effort and just dump the channel.</p><p>problem solved, you wont miss much. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

rimalz2747
02-20-2007, 01:49 AM
<cite>Wingrider01 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>rimalz2747 wrote:</cite><blockquote>Cool. Anyway.. They really shouldn't have license to annoy. </blockquote> It is called rolePlay - which is what their job is now.</blockquote> Yeah, start from my original post. My initial response was just to ignore them. I'm not allowed to. Thanks for playing.

rimalz2747
02-20-2007, 01:50 AM
<cite>SinisterScaledAgent wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>from the many servers ive jumped around on a lot of guides just simply do not even go into level chats cause of the crap we as players give them i.e. stupid requests, acting stupid, showing hostility, etc.</p><p>maybe they would be better suited on LDL and AB servers but its at least nice to see a presence even on a non-rp server despite this being a, more or less, rp game. would be even nicer if they could do more events.</p><p>i wouldnt see this as the ability to annoy, i mean if youre above the 1-10 levels....disable the chat, the 60 to 70 chat is somewhat better...pending on server but, if theyre sticking to the lower level channels and its bothering you...make an effort and just dump the channel.</p><p>problem solved, you wont miss much. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p></blockquote>Yeah, that's the only way to get away from Jar Jar, and it's what I did.. It's back tonight too, blech.

Sunlei
02-20-2007, 07:47 AM
  <p>"Tarek:Tarek/a tells Level_70 (13),"I don't group, I hand out cookies. And milk" </p><p>Why would you want to /ignore cookies and milk!? Anyways, on the Guk server we have a great guide. Guide Tarvek has been on after server crashes and ach. point glitches offering help and info in the chats.  I think it's a good thing for the players to experience friendly interaction with guides. It's a good counter-balance vs all the jaded, crankie,ancient players out there <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

Ookami-san
02-20-2007, 12:01 PM
<p>Chat channels are NOT the appropriate place to roleplay.  If guides want to roleplay, they should stick to shouts and says.  All other channels and modes of communication are NOT roleplaying.  The chat channels are for PLAYER use... not CHARACTER use. </p><p>Sony really needs to get a clue.</p>

Jal
02-20-2007, 12:18 PM
<cite>Ookami-san wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Chat channels are NOT the appropriate place to roleplay.  If guides want to roleplay, they should stick to shouts and says.  All other channels and modes of communication are NOT roleplaying.  The chat channels are for PLAYER use... not CHARACTER use. </p><p>Sony really needs to get a clue.</p></blockquote>When did you become the rulebook for how people should play?

UlteriorModem
02-20-2007, 12:49 PM
Ill roleplay where I want when I want, thanks.

nimrodblack_EQ2
02-20-2007, 01:09 PM
<cite>Jalek wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Ookami-san wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Chat channels are NOT the appropriate place to roleplay.  If guides want to roleplay, they should stick to shouts and says.  All other channels and modes of communication are NOT roleplaying.  The chat channels are for PLAYER use... not CHARACTER use. </p><p>Sony really needs to get a clue.</p></blockquote>When did you become the rulebook for how people should play? </blockquote><p>I agree with Jalek.  The chat channels are for players to talk about whatever they want.</p>

megaira13
02-20-2007, 05:01 PM
It's a nice feature, allowing someone to shut out things that bother them, but not spoil the fun for others.   Not being able to ignore a guide is a nuisence, but luckily in this case, you found a good way to deal with it.    Maybe add her to friends so you can switch off the chat before it gets going?   I like the "Just talk to her" route - actually I saw her on last night and went to go meet her and say hi, but by the time I relogged and was headed over to her zone, she'd logged off.  d'oh <b>The guide FAQ on the guide application site: <a href="https://guide.everquest.com/guideapp/faq.php" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">FAQ</a>  </b>(what a guide is and isn't)<b> The Guide Application:  <a href="https://guide.everquest.com/guideapp/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">App</a></b><b>  </b>(hey, we want guides, can't hurt to [Removed for Content] 'em a little.)<b> The email address listed for compliments or complaints regarding the guide system: <span style="color: #cc3300">[email protected]</span></b><span style="color: #cc3300"> </span> I'm going to guess that, while you've found a way to deal, she and other guides may be open to input.  But, either way, an Elder Guide on Butcherblock means some action in the guide clubhouse, and that means we're hopefully getting more.    <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />   It feels like we've been in a guide drought and I miss them.  ^^   Roleplay is something definitely alien to us - we have a few RPers - TEO and at least one other guild that I can think of - but for most people here it's an oddity.  LOL   *Cover OP's ears*  We could use a little more of it, I think, but it may take a bit of getting used to. *uncovers OP's ears* Speaking of trolls and things that make you twitch, though, if you want something to scar your psyche for good, visit Cauldron Hollow.  It's bugged.   I went in there the other night for Ghoulbane and discovered, as I was tanking, the troll females have no shirts.   Having turned the mobs as is proper, I was stuck facing a row of blacked out saggy green troll [Removed for Content] all on my own.   /shiver /gag

rimalz2747
02-20-2007, 08:43 PM
I actually did talk to her the first time, her response was "sorry!" and back to jarjar-isms.. I was tempted to petition it alot (NOT that she's roleplaying trollspeak mind you, just that I can't /ignore her, everybody keep their RP panties unbunched) but I'll wait for the in-game petition window to come back. Figures it's troll [Removed for Content] that would bug out, and not perky DE [Removed for Content], and hi Ninibi <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Mind you, if her trollspeak didn't make me think of Jar Jar, I probably wouldn't care, but eww. I'll drop it I guess - I think it's asinine that the only way to handle it is to leave the channel, but it's not the first thing I've bumped into in-game that I find [I cannot control my vocabulary]. Edit: Or on the forums, when did re-tar-ded become an offensive word? /bonk

StarryEyedElf
02-20-2007, 09:00 PM
<cite>rimalz2747 wrote:</cite><blockquote>Edit: Or on the forums, when did re-tar-ded become an offensive word? /bonk </blockquote> It always has been, and I will thank you to not evade the filter in the future.

megaira13
02-20-2007, 11:33 PM
<cite>rimalz2747 wrote:</cite><blockquote> Figures it's troll [Removed for Content] that would bug out, and not perky DE [Removed for Content], and hi Ninibi <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Mind you, if her trollspeak didn't make me think of Jar Jar, I probably wouldn't care, but eww. </blockquote> lol heya <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Jar Jar - yeahhhhhhhh, that character had many people sawing at their wrists with their papercups in the theater.     A friend of mine used to do the Jar Jar voice on ventrilo... bless him, loved him dearly but that was one thing I could have gladly muted him for. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

rimalz2747
02-21-2007, 03:02 AM
<cite>StarryEyedElf wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>rimalz2747 wrote:</cite><blockquote>Edit: Or on the forums, when did re-tar-ded become an offensive word? /bonk </blockquote> It always has been, and I will thank you to not evade the filter in the future. </blockquote>Ah, my bad.. just didn't want anyone to think I was actually cursing. Won't happen again.

Fraug
02-26-2007, 10:23 PM
<cite>rimalz2747 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>StarryEyedElf wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>rimalz2747 wrote:</cite><blockquote>Edit: Or on the forums, when did [*plonk*] become an offensive word? /bonk </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> My guess is that it probably usually falls under the "Rules of Conduct" in the Terms of Service (since the term is normally used in a degrading fashion).  Personally, I was more amused by the filter's insertion, itself.  <img src="/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Thrashercat
02-26-2007, 11:12 PM
So its not ok to roleplay in chat channel, but to talk about to wants to screw who, who has the biggest [Removed for Content] and the one-upmanship that constantly is going on? I would much rather listen to roleplay.....If you are so annoyed petition it and move on.

Fraug
02-26-2007, 11:51 PM
[email protected] wrote: <blockquote>So its not ok to roleplay in chat channel, but to talk about to wants to screw who, who has the biggest [I cannot control my vocabulary] and the one-upmanship that constantly is going on? I would much rather listen to roleplay.....If you are so annoyed petition it and move on. </blockquote> Yep... I definitely agree there, as well.  Personally it's fairly "refreshing" to hear someone trying to RP and "have fun" within a channel rather than the (nearly) constant bickering/one-upmanship that seems to go on with some folks or even many of the million WTS or "Guild Recruitment" spams that seem way-too-frequent for normal level channels.  (Mind you, I'm also <i>not </i>against players trying to sell their warez or recruit new brethren, but there are more appropriate avenues for those, IMO)

Krilinye
02-27-2007, 05:37 AM
<p>I like guides, they cant do much, but they are always good to chat with.</p><p> Ive been on the RE server a few times and theres usually an apprentice guide or a full guide online to chat with. Altho i must admit that the attendance of Guides on Splitpaw server seems rather low in my opinion.. <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

Farzmek
02-27-2007, 10:34 AM
<p>Woah...I didn't know the guides were real people...</p><p><img src="/smilies/499fd50bc713bfcdf2ab5a23c00c2d62.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

Renea_Moonstalker
02-27-2007, 04:51 PM
<p>Any player can send complaints about guides to:  <a href="mailto:[email protected]" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">[email protected]</a></p><p>Guides are most certainly allowed in the chat channels and it is indeed encouraged. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  It gives them a great opportunity for roleplay and the chance to help any who may need it but does not know how to see if a Guide is on or not.</p>

silvername
02-27-2007, 05:02 PM
I was a guide for a bit, i stoped do to school. but I was always told we dont want to interupt the players experiance. So even when i logged out i would go find a place to log so when i logged back in, i would not be in anyones way. From what I have been hearing if I was to go doing this in a channel as a guide. I would be told by a senor not to. now i was told that i could use the channels, but only when nessasary, or to help people. So this seems like this guide should not be doing this. From what I was told about rules and what not to do as a guide, this is not what a guide should be doing. There is my two cents, spend them as you wish. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />