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Aluini
05-04-2006, 07:54 PM
<DIV>I have seen many pictures of player made lofts.  I was wondering if anyone can give me an idea of how to make them.  I know it has something to do with the line of site issue.  I have stood on a chair on a table, and been able to place carpets on top of book cases.  I move the book case and place another carpet.  My problem is that once I move the book cases, I fall thru the carpet.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Any help would be greatly appreciated.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Orrernoeth Pureheart</DIV>

Bu££a2k
05-04-2006, 08:26 PM
<P>Where to start on this fun but annoying topic...</P> <P>First of all, rugs come in two very different types. Some rugs are solid (you can't fall through them) and others are non solid (you can fall through them). For my loft (making my house a 4 roomer hehe) I use Antonican rugs for the floor (Lvl 27 or 29 Carpenter recipe, can't remember which sorry). The rugs are a red colour and kinda small, but as red's my favourite colour I had to just order alot of them! (I know 2 very understanding carpenters luckily). The only surefire way to find out what type of rugs are solid is to obtain one and jump on it, not quite as fun as bed buying in RL though :smileysad:</P> <P>The only problem with them is that if you look at them from below they don't appear to be there, allowing you to look at the ceiling of the room which is kinda annoying. The solution to this is to place a non solid rug and a solid rug on top of each other. This does cut into to the house item limit however. I have found that for a 3 room house in Freeport (mine's in SFP), the following stack of items gives you the perfect level to place your rugs:</P> <P>1 Generic elm bed (have to double check this one as I'm not in game)          Crafted item</P> <P>1 Cellus Family bookcase                                                                                 Quested reward</P> <P>1 Basic Table                                                                                                     Given to me when I got to FP as a house item by the slum lord NPC</P> <P>I hope this is of use to you, if you need any more details just post again and I'll try and get back to you.</P> <P>I hope to make a homeshow of my house soon so you can see what the rugs look like, just putting the finishing pieces in at present. I also need to order a few more items and buy some more faction rewards/guild rewards.</P>

ary
05-04-2006, 09:01 PM
<DIV>I made one in my three room Qeynos home - the yard bit. I used two large maple tables then I put two big rugs on them,the one you make at tier 4 ,cannot remember the name for the life of me. Then I covered up the legs with auction board.You could use tapestry from tier 7 if you can afford one. You will not fall through and it cost less number in terms of items which is a huge issue with me. I wish the lore and legend weapons were not counted it should not by right I have 18 of them right now.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I placed the table on  a shelf so that I could adjust the height better .The book case is harder to adjust as its height is fixed.Then for steps I made a few long ornate shelves and used a bookcase to place them Hope this helps.</DIV> <P>Message Edited by aryel on <SPAN class=date_text>05-04-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>10:05 AM</SPAN></P><p>Message Edited by aryel on <span class=date_text>05-04-2006</span> <span class=time_text>10:05 AM</span>

gull
05-17-2006, 10:30 PM
<DIV>Hi, I f you are from Freeport all you have to do is place the carpets on top of the beams, it makes a nice loft and looks nice from below also.</DIV> <DIV>You will still have to use the 2 different type of carpets.</DIV>

Didi
05-18-2006, 02:17 AM
<P>Solid rugs that you can walk on but that are transparent from below:</P> <UL> <LI>rough linen rug (this is the biggest, level 47 carpenter)</LI> <LI>antonican rug</LI> <LI>canvas rug/embellished rug (same graphics)</LI></UL> <P>All other rugs you fall through, but are not see through from below.</P> <P>I find rough linen rugs are best for lofts as they're several times the size of the other solid rugs.  Ornate coalition rugs and sackcloth rugs both work well to lay on top of the rough linen rugs so it looks solid from below.  Rough linen rugs do tend to be more expensive as they require quite a high level carpenter and a lot of ashen roots, however if you find a friendly carpenter and donate a fair number of ashen roots you could hopefully work out a reasonable bargain.  The fuel cost is about 2g at most to make them, most of the cost comes from obtaining the roots, and of course the general pain-in-the-backsideness of making carpets (which require a lot of combines and don't use the carpenter's sculpting skill).</P>

Howlingmoon
05-18-2006, 03:22 AM
<blockquote><hr>Didi wrote:Solid rugs that you can walk on but that are transparent from below:<ul><li>rough linen rug (this is the biggest, level 47 carpenter)</li><li>antonican rug</li><li>canvas rug/embellished rug (same graphics)</li><li><font color="#E2BD01">horned leather rug (lvl 67 Carpenter)</font></li></ul>All other rugs you fall through, but are not see through from below.I find rough linen rugs are best for lofts as they're several times the size of the other solid rugs. Ornate coalition rugs and sackcloth rugs both work well to lay on top of the rough linen rugs so it looks solid from below. Rough linen rugs do tend to be more expensive as they require quite a high level carpenter and a lot of ashen roots, however if you find a friendly carpenter and donate a fair number of ashen roots you could hopefully work out a reasonable bargain. The fuel cost is about 2g at most to make them, most of the cost comes from obtaining the roots, and of course the general pain-in-the-backsideness of making carpets (which require a lot of combines and don't use the carpenter's sculpting skill).<hr></blockquote>

Didi
05-18-2006, 04:13 AM
Forgot about the horned rug - but I can't recommend it for use as a loft, because it's (a) very expensive due to the rarity of horned pelts, and (b) you can't put any items on it.  So use at own risk!

Howlingmoon
05-18-2006, 04:50 AM
<font color="#E2BD01">And it would be hard to get multiple of them lined up to make a larger loft, since tis round. I was just making sure everyone knew it COULD be stood on. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Ejja
07-05-2008, 07:17 PM
I am a total newb ..But I saw a loft i a house.. and I really would like one. I live in neriak in a 1 room inn. It has very tall ceilings. I know a loft would work well in there due to the height. I just dont really know how to do it. I dont know what you use for stairs and how you place the things way up there. I would appreicate any help I can get. I am totally clueless other than I know I need to use rugs or sandalwood platforms.Thanks

Donilla
07-07-2008, 03:35 PM
<p>The making of lofts has changed a bit since the original posting here. The bit about the rugs is still true. Somewhere in these forums is a list of all of the rugs and which type they are. Also EQ2traders might have that information as well. We also have sandalwood platforms now that can be used to make lofts. However they too are transparent when viewed from below, and have edges with a look like sort of half transparent beams underneath. Still, a platform with the rugs laid on top is less items overall </p><p>As to the placement, the biggest change of all is the ability to raise and lower items in the house. Hold down the <CLT><ALT> keys and you will raise and lower the items by nice small increments. You can then raise the items to whatever height you wish. Line of sight still plays a part however and ideally, you should be above the "floor" you are trying to make. This can now be done by placing a few tables, benches, rugs, whatever, used as steps to get you to the height you want. They dont need to be stacked any longer. Leave the to-be-raised items on the floor, hop on up, and raise the rug up.</p><p>Also long maple tables and freeport counters, along with the oggok tables, have all been used to be make lofts, to great affect.</p><p>Can't wait to see what you come up with.</p>