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Ce
02-28-2005, 10:42 PM
<DIV>Issues:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <UL> <LI>Buffs cast in group prementor don't appear to scale.  Buffs remain at full power once you mentor another.</LI> <LI>Pets don't appear to scale with mentoring (pet will remain at original level)</LI> <LI>Mentors appear overpowered compared to comparable level non-mentored toons. (HP is not equivalent for example)</LI> <LI>Mana regen on mentor's appears not to scale (my 30 cleric mentoring my 17-20 coercer was never low on mana during constant combat.  was not consuming drink either).</LI></UL> <P> </P> <P>Overall I love the mentor concept though.  Great job.</P>

Lancealittle
02-28-2005, 11:01 PM
<DIV>That assessment seems about right to me.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>When I was mentored down to 25 I had 100 more ac as a light armor wearer than the medium armor person I was mentoring. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I also don't like that I was getting good xps for myself. Maybe that was because I was only lowered 6 levels.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'm a bit confused on how xps are rewarded. Am I getting 25% of the xps I would get at my lowered level, or 25% of the xps I would have gotten while fighting things the same con at my normal level?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>That sounds confusing, so let me give an example (all numbers are made up):</DIV> <DIV>Say I'm level 40 and mentor a level 20. </DIV> <DIV>Things white to me at 40 gave 400 xps. Things white at 20 give 200 xps. </DIV> <DIV>Am I getting 75% of 400 or 200 while mentoring?</DIV>

Eelyen
03-01-2005, 12:37 AM
<DIV>I don't know about that mana issue.  Badkore (49 Berserker) and myself (31 Guardian) did Bloodskull valley raid last night as a duo.  He mentored down to my level.  He ran out of power faster then I did during the first wave.  Then we didn't have any power for the next 2 waves until it gave us a break.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Although it was alot of fun <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>"Ok badkore you take those 30, I got the other 30" la~</DIV><p>Message Edited by Eelyen on <span class=date_text>02-28-2005</span> <span class=time_text>11:39 AM</span>

C
03-01-2005, 03:38 AM
<DIV>Thanks, all.  Please keep the feedback coming.  We're currently adjusting/fixing the following aspects of the system:</DIV> <UL> <LI>Maintained Spells:  Buffs/pets that are too high for your mentor level will be removed.</LI> <LI>Health/Power Updates:  When you mentor and un-mentor, you will keep the same health/power amounts (instead of instantly regenerating).</LI> <LI>Mentor Amounts:  Right now, the percent of xp you earn as a mentor is in flux.  Expect it to change to keep challenge and reward intact.  It should generally follow the below structure (but that may change with further testing).</LI> <UL> <LI>Level 8 or below:  No mentoring xp (not enough challenge)</LI> <LI>Low teens:  little mentoring xp</LI> <LI>High teens:  low mentoring xp</LI> <LI>Low twenties:  scaling up to moderate mentoring xp</LI> <LI>Past 25:  max mentoring xp</LI></UL></UL> <P>The reasons I didn't use explicit values is that we're still tweaking the numbers quite a bit to get it right.  We'll look into the other topics mentioned here (including overpowering mentors and regen rates).</P> <P> </P>

Zindicatt
03-01-2005, 03:47 AM
<DIV>Pets don't scale.  However if mobs were grey to the pet owner before mentoring starts, they will be grey if the current pet is used.  That seems to be working as intended.  I think it would probably be better that the overpowered pet dies if the owner starts mentoring (unless of course, the pet is cast by lower level spell).</DIV>

Daffid011
03-01-2005, 03:50 AM
There is no xp/no-xp message in groups AFTER you join and people start to mentor. Not sure if there should be, but just FYI.