How do you obtain the new Master II's?

[Chonrad]

<DIV>"<STRONG>Training changes:<BR></STRONG>- Every ten levels (level 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, and 60) you can now choose from a list of four spells or arts to upgrade to Master II quality.<BR>- This replaces the previous Training abilities, which have been removed from your Knowledge book."</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I have tried /respec and this will not allow me to upgrade my spells/arts for previous levels eg. I am lvl 15 atm - how do I get the one for level 10 (the training options are gone!).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>How does one obtain the new Master II's?!!</DIV><p>Message Edited by Chonrad on <span class=date_text>08-27-2005</span> <span class=time_text>06:06 PM</span>

[Malsua]

Yeah,  my most useful spells are gone.   I'm a 31 Fury and without something else, I'm pretty thwacked.   Down to one semi-useful DD instead of two pretty good ones. I lost Darmen's Booming Clap and Dyleenas Aching Chill.  Now I have just strike of thunder. This is a big problem as far as my damage output until this is rectified. -Mal

[CB_Swami]

<DIV>It appears that level 50's are getting their new master II training skills but noone else is.</DIV> <DIV>my level 37 ranger has lost the skills she chose but has no way to get the new master II's</DIV> <DIV>at least no way that I or of my guild have found.</DIV>

[Malsua]

Are those 50s getting it via /respec or does the glowing plus sign just appear upon login? It tells me I cannot respec at this time using /respec. -Mal

[xOnaton1]

I just logged onto test and it looks like some classes got their new spells and some didn't. (As of 8/27) <div></div>

[TazmanVN]

<div></div><span><blockquote><hr>xOnaton1 wrote:I just logged onto test and it looks like some classes got their new spells and some didn't. (As of 8/27) <div></div><hr></blockquote> Well... I guess that was a well thought out change.<span> <span>:smileytongue:</span></span></span><div></div><p>Message Edited by TazmanVN on <span class=date_text>08-27-2005</span> <span class=time_text>08:11 PM</span>

[Tlichie]

<P>I read the patch notes and when I logged in I wasn't surprised to see one of my spells gone (level 20 'zerker at that point) but I *was* surprised that there wasn't any way to choose something new in it's place (or a replacement there, I looked in my knowledge book and didn't see anything that caught my eye as new).  At 20, it's going to be a long time before I get to pick my new one, and I don't really want to use /respec (if that can be used).  </P> <P>Are lower level Master IIs maybe not in the game yet?  </P> <P>Would be nice to get them! LOL</P> <P> </P> <P>--Sriza</P>

[jordaann]

well it seems toons that hit the level after the patch to get their skill is working ok.  Problem seems limited to going back and getting the ones you have passed already. <div></div>

[TazmanVN]

<span><blockquote><hr><p>I read the patch notes and when I logged in I wasn't surprised to see one of my spells gone (level 20 'zerker at that point) but I *was* surprised that there wasn't any way to choose something new in it's place (or a replacement there, I looked in my knowledge book and didn't see anything that caught my eye as new).  At 20, it's going to be a long time before I get to pick my new one, and I don't really want to use /respec (if that can be used). </p><hr></blockquote>If you are talking about the Damage Over Time swing you got in your teens (Deep Wound, I think)... it get's replaced by a level 28 DOT called Vicious Wound.  So you won't see the replacement until level 28.  I got annoyed because I had it upgraded to adept I and it got replace by a level 28 app I.  Fortunately there was an adept I version on the fence later in the day. Anyway, that's not the same thing as the priests getting their every 10 level spell choices for being masters reset... and having no way to do them over.</span><div></div>

[Malsua]

I'd just like to clarify. I'm a 32 Fury. At 20, I got a non upgradable spell, Dyleenas Aching chill which was a significant bump from the level 12 spell Chill. At 30, I got a non upgradable spell, Darmen's Booming clap which was a significant upgrade to Strike of thunder that I got at level 24. Both were my most damaging DD spells.  And doing a HO with Clap(boy that comes out wrong, doh, did it again) and Aching Chill does 150 to 300+ more damage than Thunder and Chill combo.  So I'm back to using a 24+12 VS a 30+20 spell.  Since HO damage scales up with the level of spell, not only is normal damage down, the HO damage is down. I just dinged 32(I was very close when this change hit and finished off some easy quests) and got Starburst so that's helped, but that spell really sucks the power.

[Malsua]

I got a response to my CS ticket. It doesn't appear that the GM even understands the problem. <img src="http://www.[Removed for Content].com/malbor2/gmresponse.jpg">

[Calthine]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Malsua wrote:<BR>I got a response to my CS ticket.<BR><BR>It doesn't appear that the GM even understands the problem.<BR><BR><BR><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>Gee, a GM who doesn't get it....  that's a news flash.....  </DIV>

[Heiro]

<P>At lvl 50 Templar,  I logged in to have all my traits gone... and had a green + sign in the lower corner of my screen.</P> <P> </P> <P>I was able to select One master II spell  ( 40s range -- which replaced my adept 3 spell I had already upgraded.. all the selections were upgraded to adept 3  so I lost a ruby on that deal).</P> <P> </P> <P>No other trait choices follow ...  </P> <P> </P> <P>Unable to /respec,   as I had used it upon hitting 50 to respec to all the Group Cures for raiding and grouping utility .. which now are GONE...</P> <P> </P> <P>just some info on the new trait issues that are goin on...</P> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P>Heiro --- 50 Templar / 50 Armorer --- Test</P>