View Full Version : Major Harclave nerf intended?

08-05-2005, 04:28 PM
<DIV>Last night before update I cleared the zone and got 40% xp as a 44 Mystic, and made 40+ gold selling chest loot to the merchant.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>After patch I had cleared half the instance, and received 0.4% and no chest drops.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Obviously if people were only ever levelling in Harclave, and raking in half a plat a go,  it probably needed to be revisited. Well, unless it is bugged, it would appear that it has been.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'm about to go make the most of Harclave on Live before the update hits <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

08-05-2005, 04:59 PM
<P>You might have just gotten unlucky with chest drops but if the knocked the exp down to .4% per clearing then they mide as well take the zone out of the game. :smileyvery-happy:</P> <P>The exp change must be a bug.</P>

08-05-2005, 06:22 PM
<DIV>I didn't clear the whole zone, I got bored about half way through the mushrooms and exited. Up to that point I had got .4%. I don't want to exaggerate or spread misinformation, so just clearing that up.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Have heard nothing from any official source about it being intended or bugged. I hope it's not a penalty for completing the zone more than once. (She's done it 3 or 4 times I think)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Will try with other characters - <STRONG><EM>if </EM></STRONG>they can make it to the den with all these combat changes :smileytongue:</DIV>

08-05-2005, 09:47 PM
Sounds to me like SOE misplaced a decimal point.  4% would be fair, sure, but 0.4% is a bit on the ridiculous side.  Strikes me as a combination bug-and-change: they meant to alter it, but not in the way they did. <div></div>

08-05-2005, 10:16 PM
<P>I will check it out in a bit when I log on. I have done Harclave at least 15 times, so I will notice a change pretty quick. </P> <P> </P> <P>I havent done Harclave 15 times for the xp, though it is a bonus, I have done it trying to get the stupid satin mitts. My wife got them the first time through and though she cant use them, they are no trade. Fingers that the best int non fabled gloves in the game are no trade.</P>

08-09-2005, 05:17 PM
<P>Anything new about this? I can understand lil xp drop but xp drop to 0,4/ clearing half zone, is lil too harsh in my opinion.</P> <P> The zone reminds me of goold old eqoa where you could spend levels and levels ...and levels grinding on hexbones near zentarkeep so i would like to know was it a bug or still 0,4% /half zone?</P> <p>Message Edited by MrFlob on <span class=date_text>08-09-2005</span> <span class=time_text>06:19 AM</span>

08-09-2005, 06:13 PM
I can see this happening, the zone is sort of confusing, at least to me - a 38 inquisitor. Ive done this instance on live about 4 times now 2 on normal and 2 on difficult. I have exp turned off most of the time but I did leave it on once in difficult and made a nice chunk about 40%. but to me the only challenge to this zone is getting the buff. and then the only challenge is spacing the times on the wandering mobs at the enterance. Once I have the buff, I can walk into a grp of mobs - then go watch tv.. cook dinner.. alt tab out and read my guild's forums.. come back move on to next grp of mobs.. The zone was really fun first 2-3 times through, as that buff made it seem like you had god mode on or something. felt like an dev granted cheat or something.. perhaps the huge combat revamp will change what i can do here and in general but as it stands now its like free money and free exp for absolutely 0 effort. Perhaps the .4% is a bit too drastic but i certainly do not deserve 40% for doing that. Is it just that I have an overpowered class at the moment - Seriously, does anyone have trouble with this zone? I'd love to know - (all my gear is yellow/orange - nothing special. I will be going back shortly on very difficult to see if anything changes) <div></div>

08-09-2005, 07:27 PM
<DIV>went through it went with my 28 monk and only got 5% exp total in the zone and very few drops, and yes i died just before completion as the last group before the pigs at the end had lots of casters and fd failed and they took me out.</DIV> <DIV>at 27 i used to get almost 50% exp for completion and believe me 4 groups of 3 or for mobs in a group and the final enounter wouldnt have equaled 45%.</DIV> <DIV>I get more experience killing solo mobs in thundersteppes than i do killing in harclaves now.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>also the solo arena is way over powered now under the circumstances, a 28 monk can not take a 29 one up Phosom, i got him down to 60% before i died and he still had 80% power.</DIV> <DIV>I had some trouble with the even con pig that is an sk but i finished him off with no power and half life.</DIV> <DIV>I have no clue what the guardian/defiler champion is like now but with the changes he has to be a double up 2levels above you.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

08-09-2005, 08:06 PM
Not sure on test but on live my 28 monk can make it to champ but can only get him to 60%. My 50 defiler can breeze through harclave on very difficult making 40g per run and averaging 1 master drop every 3-4 trips.  None of my other toons (monk, assassin, guardian, coercer) can get through harclave on anything but normal difficulty. <div></div>

08-09-2005, 10:00 PM
Zat, 1 master drop every 3-4 trips?  Man that is pretty good, I didn't think masters dropped in there as I never seen one.  Was that on difficult or very difficult? <div></div>

08-09-2005, 11:07 PM
I was running through Harclave set on difficult and got a master chest.  I discovered Heatwave (Master I).  It was probably my 3rd or 4th time through and came from the spiders.  I was so excited, too bad none of my friends or alts can use it.

08-10-2005, 02:53 AM
lol ! don't you know that the first rule for any master chest is that it detects what class you, your friends, your alts and their alts play and drops whatever master is least useful to you? (after the class cross check it looks to see whether you are freeport or qeynos based) <div></div>

08-10-2005, 07:17 PM
I would think they will have to stop the high XP.  I get the feeling that it was put in place just to let folks powerlevel to 50 so they could use the new expansion.  Once the expansion is out I'm sure they don't want folks grinding to 60 overnight.

11-07-2005, 12:24 AM
I have got only one master chest and I've doen quite numerous harclave runs. It seems bit too drastic of SOE to nerf the harclave as its going to be in LU 16. Gear in higher lvls gets very expensive, basically harclave was for me the only way to get the needed gold to be able to buy them. Guess they nerf next the solo arena, which can yield few gold pieces and some exp in total. <div></div>

11-07-2005, 07:20 AM
You shouldn't bump old threads with unrelated posts. Stick to one of the current threads on the current change. <div></div>