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Tears_
12-17-2004, 05:21 PM
Didnt see this in the patch notes, and to me is one of the MAJOR changes that was made since release, the dev posts stated it would be restored once a confirmation box could be presented on the client to accept or reject the revive.Has anyone a Level 8+ priest type on the test server and checked this ? It would be a shame if this is still broken, I pass so many dead priests while touring the zones to complete some quests and theres generaly nothing I can do.

Fern
12-17-2004, 06:21 PM
<blockquote><hr>Tears_UK wrote:Didnt see this in the patch notes, and to me is one of the MAJOR changes that was made since release, the dev posts stated it would be restored once a confirmation box could be presented on the client to accept or reject the revive.Has anyone a Level 8+ priest type on the test server and checked this ? It would be a shame if this is still broken, I pass so many dead priests while touring the zones to complete some quests and theres generaly nothing I can do.<hr></blockquote>I agree it needs fixed but saying there is nothing you can do is wrong. You can group and then rez them. I do it all the time. Sure it means you have to stop and actually talk to someone but it is an MMO so at some point you have to talk to someone.

Tears_
12-17-2004, 10:50 PM
<blockquote><hr>Fernus wrote:<blockquote><hr>Tears_UK wrote:Didnt see this in the patch notes, and to me is one of the MAJOR changes that was made since release, the dev posts stated it would be restored once a confirmation box could be presented on the client to accept or reject the revive.Has anyone a Level 8+ priest type on the test server and checked this ? It would be a shame if this is still broken, I pass so many dead priests while touring the zones to complete some quests and theres generaly nothing I can do.<hr></blockquote>I agree it needs fixed but saying there is nothing you can do is wrong. You can group and then rez them. I do it all the time. Sure it means you have to stop and actually talk to someone but it is an MMO so at some point you have to talk to someone.<hr></blockquote>So is it fixed.... or not fixed ?I cant invite a priest to a group if there already in a groupI cant invite their group to a raid if im not in a groupI cant ask their group leader to invite me if there fullI was really hoping this big patch would fix the rez - is this not the case ? has someone got a level 8 priest on the test server ? would lik

Syanis
12-17-2004, 11:27 PM
<DIV>Who ever said this is broken? This is how I always understood from pre release how it would work. The dead individual needs to be in a group with the rez'r. If not then look at all the issues. Someone could chain rez you into agro and nothing you can do. Think of all the debt cause one rez'r is a dip or your a non liked person or whatever the excuse would be. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Far as getting rez'd if your not inna group... how about some common sense. Priest A's group has 6 total members.... your in a group also whos all dead or they can't get to you. Leave your group and 1 of Priest A's group leaves group or else Priest A themself leaves group joins a group with you and ohh a rez. reform group how was n move on. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>This you may consider a gameplay issue... for that do /feedback with your input ingame or send it to SoE's Feedback email. Far as a game bug... its not far as I've been lead to understand.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Syanis</DIV>

BrickyardRac
12-17-2004, 11:29 PM
<DIV>Who ever said this is broken? This is how I always understood from pre release how it would work.</DIV> <DIV> <HR> </DIV> <DIV>Per a post from a dev/Moorgard, it was to be "fixed" (or at least changed).  You will be able to attempt to raise someone not in your group, and they will get a yes/no confirmation box on whether to accept the raise or not.</DIV>

Twizzel
12-17-2004, 11:31 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Syanis wrote:<BR> <DIV>Who ever said this is broken? This is how I always understood from pre release how it would work. The dead individual needs to be in a group with the rez'r. If not then look at all the issues. Someone could chain rez you into agro and nothing you can do. Think of all the debt cause one rez'r is a dip or your a non liked person or whatever the excuse would be. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Far as getting rez'd if your not inna group... how about some common sense. Priest A's group has 6 total members.... your in a group also whos all dead or they can't get to you. Leave your group and 1 of Priest A's group leaves group or else Priest A themself leaves group joins a group with you and ohh a rez. reform group how was n move on. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>This you may consider a gameplay issue... for that do /feedback with your input ingame or send it to SoE's Feedback email. Far as a game bug... its not far as I've been lead to understand.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Syanis</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV>Shouldn't be this hard.  Just need to implement rez confirmation box to prevent rez into aggro...we shouldn't have to ungroup, group, ungroup, group, just to rez someone...</FONT></DIV>

Quasimo
12-17-2004, 11:55 PM
<DIV>*edit*</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>nm</DIV><p>Message Edited by Quasimo on <span class=date_text>12-17-2004</span> <span class=time_text>10:56 AM</span>

Tears_
12-18-2004, 02:32 AM
<blockquote><hr>Syanis wrote:<DIV>Who ever said this is broken? This is how I always understood from pre release how it would work. The dead individual needs to be in a group with the rez'r. If not then look at all the issues. Someone could chain rez you into agro and nothing you can do. Think of all the debt cause one rez'r is a dip or your a non liked person or whatever the excuse would be. </DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>Far as getting rez'd if your not inna group... how about some common sense. Priest A's group has 6 total members.... your in a group also whos all dead or they can't get to you. Leave your group and 1 of Priest A's group leaves group or else Priest A themself leaves group joins a group with you and ohh a rez. reform group how was n move on. </DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>This you may consider a gameplay issue... for that do /feedback with your input ingame or send it to SoE's Feedback email. Far as a game bug... its not far as I've been lead to understand.</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>Syanis</DIV><hr></blockquote>Throughout all of BETA you were able to rez out of groupThroughout the start of release you were able to rez out of group-- someone chain rez'd a player in a field of agro mobs, dev's changed it to rez for group but said it would be restoredI tried what you sugested last night - the dead leader could not invite me to his group. By the time i figured out to get another free person to group and setup a raid half of the dead had released.All im after is an answer if this is fixed in the BIG patch due as its not in the patch notes and a REALLY big change that was made since release with a prommis to fix, and no one can provide an answer ? guess ill have to level a priest up to 8 on test just to see.

Tears_
12-18-2004, 02:36 AM
Also you have a revive feather... your passing someone thats dead, you try to invite and there already grouped, do you :-A) Think.. ahh well stuff it and move onB) Spend 10-15 minutes trying to mess around with groups and finding out who group leaders are

Kredoc
12-18-2004, 06:13 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> BrickyardRacer wrote:<BR> <DIV>Who ever said this is broken? This is how I always understood from pre release how it would work.</DIV> <DIV> <HR> </DIV> <DIV>Per a post from a dev/Moorgard, it was to be "fixed" (or at least changed).  You will be able to attempt to raise someone not in your group, and they will get a yes/no confirmation box on whether to accept the raise or not.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <P>This doesn't really help if you're dead as all you can see is the dirt. No way to really figure out if you should say yes or no. The potential to be rez'd into aggro still exists. They really need to give you a controllable camera too.</P> <P> </P>

En
12-18-2004, 06:44 PM
The least they could do is give you the option to turn a rez confirmation box on/off. Sure the priest suffers some exp debt they rez someone into agro, but the are spiteful people out there who just don't care.I can't imagine them ever putting in an out of group rez without the confirmation box and other restirictions. There is just to many ways to abuse it.

Glorfindel
12-19-2004, 11:27 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Enwe wrote:<BR>The least they could do is give you the option to turn a rez confirmation box on/off. Sure the priest suffers some exp debt they rez someone into agro, but the are spiteful people out there who just don't care.<BR><BR>I can't imagine them ever putting in an out of group rez without the confirmation box and other restirictions. There is just to many ways to abuse it.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> That's the way it was in beta and the first couple weeks of launch.

Tears_
12-20-2004, 02:03 PM
Has anyone actualy read my first post ? and have a L8+ priest on the test server. You can debat the issue all you like, im simply asking is this fixed on the BIG patch that was announced (cant see it in the patch notes)

Exodu
12-20-2004, 04:58 PM
While you're at it, ask them to please allow healing in RAID's not directly in your group. I can't rez or heal anyone that's not in my direct group - even in a raid <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Vindicis
12-20-2004, 08:42 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Tears_UK wrote:<BR>Has anyone actualy read my first post ? and have a L8+ priest on the test server. You can debat the issue all you like, im simply asking is this fixed on the BIG patch that was announced (cant see it in the patch notes)<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> Why don't you log into test and try it out for yourself?  This isn't the Q&A forum for those too lazy to play on the test server.  Read the guidelines for posting threads in this section, it's the huge print at the top of this forum ( I doubt even you can miss it).

Tears_
12-21-2004, 07:52 PM
<blockquote><hr>Vindicis wrote:<BR><BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Tears_UK wrote:<BR>Has anyone actualy read my first post ? and have a L8+ priest on the test server. You can debat the issue all you like, im simply asking is this fixed on the BIG patch that was announced (cant see it in the patch notes)<BR><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Why don't you log into test and try it out for yourself? This isn't the Q&A forum for those too lazy to play on the test server. Read the guidelines for posting threads in this section, it's the huge print at the top of this forum ( I doubt even you can miss it).<hr></blockquote>Excuse me ?What is wrong with asking anyone who has a level 8+ priest to just quickly check if this is fixed ? Some people choose to play on the latest and greatest hot fixes this is not me - but do you see me being abusive those who do ? I think not.

Shazzbott_Feldercarb
12-21-2004, 08:27 PM
<blockquote><hr>Tears_UK wrote:<blockquote><hr>Vindicis wrote:<BR><BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Tears_UK wrote:<BR>Has anyone actualy read my first post ? and have a L8+ priest on the test server. You can debat the issue all you like, im simply asking is this fixed on the BIG patch that was announced (cant see it in the patch notes)<BR><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Why don't you log into test and try it out for yourself? This isn't the Q&A forum for those too lazy to play on the test server. Read the guidelines for posting threads in this section, it's the huge print at the top of this forum ( I doubt even you can miss it).<hr></blockquote>Excuse me ?What is wrong with asking anyone who has a level 8+ priest to just quickly check if this is fixed ? Some people choose to play on the latest and greatest hot fixes this is not me - but do you see me being abusive those who do ? I think not.<hr></blockquote>Lots and lots of people have questions about what is happening on test, this isn't the place to ask them. There is a server message board for test just like all the other servers, go ask there. Shazz

TarinTwisted
12-21-2004, 09:34 PM
<DIV>Just make a priest and level it to 8 on test and see for yourself.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Should only take an hour or so.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>