Assassin's/Scout's Hood!!!!!

[Forsaken Falc]

<div>Finally We got what we wanted.</div><div> </div><div>But at what coast? apart from wasteing 3-5day's of our live's trying to get it ><</div><div> </div><div>We did allway's ask for an Hooded look however why does SOE have to be such [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]'s to the point of makeing it lvl 60+ and such a hardcore quest just to gain it -.-</div><div> </div><div>Poor newbie Sin's must wait till there in the lvl's of KoS. I'm not saying the quest isn't worth it but hell.........Couldn't You's of placed an NON-STATS Hood so the People w/o the time or Lvl's could atleast FEEL LIKE AN ASSASSIN!!!!!!!!!!</div><div> </div><div>I'm not complaineing about the quest I just think it's unjustifieable catering for only 1 aspect of player.</div>

[ZaranilShadowfie]

please never post again under any circumstance<div></div>

[Forsaken Falc]

<div></div><div></div><p>oh I see a lvl 60+ who don't give 2 [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]'s about the newb's fair enough.</p><p> </p><p>However I'm not as short sighted so I'll do as I may with in the rule's of the forum</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Apitty too since I use to think us Wood Elf Assassin's were the most understanding of them all I guess I was wrong <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Message Edited by Forsaken Falcon on <span class="date_text">03-10-2006</span><span class="time_text">11:55 AM</span></p>

[Lord Montague]

<div>I do agree that that response was a little on the harsh side.</div><div> </div><div>Now, that being said, it does certainly seem like, at least for the time being, that rewards like this are tailored to favor the high-end crowd so I can certainly see how the lower-level community would feel a little left out.</div><div> </div><div>An idea I was thinking of was perhaps something along the lines of AQ7.  As it stands, you get 6 armor quests for your lower 20s armor.  You get every piece you could ever need - except the head-piece.  This would be the perfect place to fit in something along these lines - perhaps something that doesn't look quite as good as the high-level version.  Then again, devs have stated that they haven't finished working on all the hats, so it is also possible that implementation of profession hats at lower levels may be something they are considering for the future.</div>

[Forsaken Falc]

<div></div><p>Thanks Lord thats fairly much stated everything I was on about.</p><p> </p><p>Im 60+ but still think for the little guy's if I were in there shoe's (since i extremely wanted a hood for a year now) I wouldn't be thrilled at SOE at this present time at all.</p>

[Persi]

<blockquote><hr>ZaranilShadowfiend wrote:please never post again under any circumstance<div></div><hr></blockquote><p>Wow really harsh post. I agree with the OP I'm one of those lowbie assassins who really wishes he had a class hat:smileysad:</p><p> </p><p>Orontes</p><p>48 Assassin</p><p>Unrest</p>

[KirikaNo]

<div><span><blockquote><hr>Persis4 wrote:<blockquote><hr>ZaranilShadowfiend wrote:please never post again under any circumstance<div></div><hr></blockquote><p>Wow really harsh post. I agree with the OP I'm one of those lowbie assassins who really wishes he had a class hat:smileysad:</p><p> </p><p>Orontes</p><p>48 Assassin</p><p>Unrest</p><hr></blockquote>No.One of the points of being high level is that you can get the cool gear.  Cool looking gear.  No.  These graphics shouldn't be handed out to every newbie who wants one just because it's not fair.  If you push the content, you'll get the gear, case closed.</span></div>

[dea]

SOE has stated that these graphics are already available internally on lower level gear. It sounds like the intent for these items is to complement the Armor Quest series with, finally, a helm slot item. Last word from development is that someone is still figuring out how to get this into the game (maybe they are in progress with making a new armor quest, tweaking difficulty, deciding any changes in quest giver, etc). Whenever this development is done, everyone sub-67 or so will be able to wear some version of their class hat.<div></div>

[Logan]

<div>It is a shame that you have to wait til such a high lvl to look cool. They took the first step in letting us be assassins from the get go but you just cant look like one heh. Really its not too bad but high 60s is a bit long to wait for that hood. Arguably this quest can be done by the average group if they are 70 and its certainly a step in the right direction. I applaud the fact that casual gamers and people who don't like raiding are being thrown a bone. In fact the amount of legendary gear available to those of us who dont play the game like a job is wonderful, and all I really want from eq2. Its also nice to not be held hostage by crafters like it used to be where crafted was better than anything obtainable outside a raid.</div><div> </div><div>The only real issue is the angry raiding crowd who isnt going to be 8 miles ahead of us in gear only 1 mile, and we might even look cool too. probably a little too close for them but again I am glad we are getting gear like this because its a game not a job and all of us should have some nice stuff from playing it.</div><div> </div><div>Rhys 67 Assassin..Kithicor</div>

[K'aldar]

this isn't much on the point you're all on, and won't help the newbies but hope it makes some of you feel better.got the scout only hat in Halls of Fate the other day.  has similar stats and same graphic as the quested one, but wearable at lvl 60 instead of 67.  don't remember which named it dropped off but think it was the dragon, sothis.<div></div>

[Forsaken Falc]

<div></div><div><blockquote><hr>Persis4 wrote:<blockquote><hr>ZaranilShadowfiend wrote:please never post again under any circumstance<div></div><hr></blockquote><p>Wow really harsh post. I agree with the OP I'm one of those lowbie assassins who really wishes he had a class hat<img height="16" width="16" src="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif" border="0"></p><p> </p><p>Orontes</p><p>48 Assassin</p><p>Unrest</p><hr></blockquote>No.One of the points of being high level is that you can get the cool gear.  Cool looking gear.  No.  These graphics shouldn't be handed out to every newbie who wants one just because it's not fair.  If you push the content, you'll get the gear, case closed.<p></p><div><a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/pplayer.vm?characterId=394644203" target="_blank"><font color="#ffcc33">Arkia Di`Yab</font></a>70 Assassin / <a href="http://nards.com/Flame/index.php" target="_blank"><font color="#ffcc33">Nardsman</font></a>Old Skool <a href="http://elysiumeq2.com/forum" target="_blank"><font color="#ffcc33">Elysium</font></a></div></div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><div>Sorry but I have to disagree lvling up is about the new zone's and skill's not look, look at this for an exsample the DOF heavy fable's looked like [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] but just becasue there labled Fabled there somewhat better then they should be......</div><div> </div><div>Any one who is newish to this game desier's a Assassins hood and yet wish's to desire a sociel life I feel intierly sorry for cause it will take 6 month's+ just to gain the animation aparently only high lvl pp should beable to wear..........</div><div> </div><div>As I said earlyer I wouldn't care if they added in one for all lvl's and it had no stats as we are talking about look's/feel of the assassin</div><div> </div><div>Don't forget atleast miminium 30-40% of the people who joined this game and made a sin were expecting a Hood (no not on of the hooded robe's a mage wear's) to go along with there toon.</div><div> </div><div>Another exsample of disapointment = "Counsilor's Mantel" Clearly in the picture it show's a hooded cloak and yet while I was wearing it..........</div>

[SmEaGoLLuM]

I read somewhere they were working on head gear of the famous AQ armor series of the 20s. Maybe that will allow newbie assassins to feel more 'assassinish'.<div></div>

[KirikaNo]

<div><span><blockquote><hr>Logannx wrote:<div>The only real issue is the angry raiding crowd who isnt going to be 8 miles ahead of us in gear only 1 mile, and we might even look cool too. probably a little too close for them but again I am glad we are getting gear like this because its a game not a job and all of us should have some nice stuff from playing it.</div><div> </div><div>Rhys 67 Assassin..Kithicor</div><hr></blockquote>So...Someone raids 5 days a week for 6 hours a day.  They should have the same gear as somone who raids one night a week (if at all) and hardly plays?  This makes no sense.  You put more in, you get more out.  That's just the way that things work.  Think of a single-player RPG.  If you want to beat it all the subgames, quests, storylines and everything else in the game you simply have to play more.  Period.  If you just want to beat the game because you don't have enough time or energy to get through ALL of the content, you come out having played "less" of the game.Same goes with MMORPGs.  You put more time in, you get more out of it.  Sorry that it works that way.  Why should you care what gear someone that raids have if you don't have it?  This game isn't a competition if you don't play it like one, so why does it matter what someone else has on?  Is it sheer jealousy?  If I'm totally off base I urge you to enlighten me.</span></div>

[knightdant]

You get hoods? Like cloak hoods?

[oldie]

Hmm, that quest was hard?  I don't recall any portion of it being terribly difficult =P<div></div>

[KirikaNo]

<div><span><blockquote><hr>oldie25 wrote:Hmm, that quest was hard?  I don't recall any portion of it being terribly difficult =P<div></div><hr></blockquote>Hrmm.... the "hardest" part IMO was getting the [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] Skarize updates in HoF.  [Removed for Content] bastages refused to update me until my second run-through.</span></div>

[Forsaken Falc]

<div></div><p>This post isn't about timve vs reward or questing the content will get You it.</p><p> </p><p>My point is. For over a YEAR now from a lvl 1 to 60 Assassin has allway's stated + demanded a hood for role playing reason's</p><p> </p><p>THATS RIGHT ROLE PLAYING!!!!! Since half of You fainboi's forget what role playing is You's quickly destroy and othere format of role playing this game has to offer. and Hell were fighting over a piece of cloth which should of been introduce tot he game month's ago.</p><p>This game turn player's on to player's fast and I blame SOE for only catering for 1 asepect of player (thank <a target="_blank" href="mailto:%@$">%@$</a># I'm in that aspect)</p>

[Jvaloth]

<div></div><div>I agree with Zaranil.</div><div> </div><div> </div><div>"Please never post again under any circumstance."</div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><div>Quit your whining and go get the hood.</div><div> </div><div>Challenge yourself!   Instead of calling yourself a noob,  unnoobify yourself. </div><div> </div><div>And do yourself a favor,  roleplay while your doing it for the added fun.</div><div> </div><div>Then when ya have your uber hood of doom,  you can look back at your accomplishment with a sense of pride.</div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><p>Message Edited by Jvaloth on <span class="date_text">03-11-2006</span><span class="time_text">02:08 PM</span></p>

[Dragonsviperz]

<div></div>If you want a noob friendly game, go play WoW, stop posting stupid things on this forum and do everyone a favor /quit EQ2 for anyone who said that all the stuff high lvl raiders/questers get should be also for lower lvl toons.

[Forsaken Falc]

<div></div><div></div><div><img height="1" alt="" width="1" src="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/i/p.gif" border="0"><div></div><p>If you want a noob friendly game, go play WoW, stop posting stupid things on this forum and do everyone a favor /quit EQ2 for anyone who said that all the stuff high lvl raiders/questers get should be also for lower lvl toons.</p><p> </p><p>Or ...Maybe You Fainboi's should @#$@#$ off back to eq1 ? Considering You guy's misread My post oviously cause it's not about raid/questing its about the fact of people want to role play there class it's kinda hard w/o a hood & this is why WoW and Eithen RagnaroK Online has more player's then EQ2 because there is an fun Role PLAYING ellement to them.(No I don't play WoW -.-)</p><p>I'm not asking for quest nerf's I just hope lower lvl people get to ENJOY the game as much as a lvl 60+ since atm You guy's are killing the fun....</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Where does it state I am not doing the Hooded quest? just because I actraully care for the lower lvl people cause I care about the population of this mmo make's me an newb?......yes.....I see how that work's......</p><p> </p><p>Please don't take this gamer [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] simple, You'r Gonna respect it! That's just for the Record......</p></div><p>Message Edited by Forsaken Falcon on <span class="date_text">03-12-2006</span><span class="time_text">01:42 PM</span></p>

[dea]

Please Don't Feel The Troll.<div></div>

[Forsaken Falc]

<div></div><p>Troll??? O,o hold on read above the one whom start's slander is an Troll i just state what many People are think.</p><p> </p><p>Sadist thing is I bet the guy's throwing insult's are 10 year's above Me in age <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Aienaa]

<div></div><p></p><hr><font color="#ffff00">Someone raids 5 days a week for 6 hours a day.  They should have the same gear as somone who raids one night a week (if at all) and hardly plays?  This makes no sense.  You put more in, you get more out.  That's just the way that things work.</font> <hr><p>Ok, someone is misconstruing what is being asked for here...  they are not asking for a hood that can be worn at low levels with the same stats as one you would get on T7 raids, what they are asking for is a hood that is wearable at low level, and they don;t care if it has stats or not....</p><p>What you are saying is something along these lines....</p><p>Sorry, but you can't wear thoes blue jeans till your 70 years old... I put my time in life, I deserve to wear the blue jeans....  Go do some growing up and maybe 1 day you can wear blue jeans like me....</p><p>Truth is, there are lots of different kinds of blue jeans...  There are cheap ones you get a K-Mart and there are expensive ones you get at designer clothing stores....</p><p>The difference is the quality of the gear....  Raid gotten gear is like designer clothing, while the rest is like buying it from K-Mart...  You put in the time, so you get the better quality gear, while the other get something that looks similiar, but no where near as good....  Raid gear has the designer tag (FABLED), the rest has the K-Mart tag (TREASURED)</p><p></p><hr><font color="#ffff00">Same goes with MMORPGs.  You put more time in, you get more out of it.  Sorry that it works that way.  Why should you care what gear someone that raids have if you don't have it?  This game isn't a competition if you don't play it like one, so why does it matter what someone else has on?  Is it sheer jealousy?  If I'm totally off base I urge you to enlighten me.</font><hr><p>Listen to yourself....  "so why does it matter what someone else has on?" and  "Is it sheer jealousy?"....  Why are you so worried if someone is wearing something similiar to what your wearing??  Are you Jealous that they got something that looks similiar to what your wearing 40 levels before you got it??....  Like I asid before it's the quality of the gear, not the appearance...</p><p>Do you think someone is going to Oooh and Ahhh over a level 20 hood that has +2 str, +2 Agi +10 HP +10 Power???  Or do you think they will drool over something with +35 Str, +35 Agi, +20 Sta, +25 Int +85 HP +90 Power +660 Heat/Cold +550 Poison/Disease, +500 Mental/Magic/Divine???</p><p>You totally contradict yourself here... First you say they don't deserve it, then you go into the spiel about  why should anyone care what other people wear....</p><p> </p><p>Gwern - 69 Assassin  /  Nilla - 66 Alchemist</p>

[Logan]

<div></div><p>Hmm the point is a person that raids one day a week should still have access to the same great gear it just takes longer to get it not be totally excluded from it because ya don't want to raid every night. Some of the above posts unfortunately  illustrate the point nicely how the hardcore raiders will freak out by not having gear that is miles ahead of the rest of us. Back at ya, does it really matter what the casual player is wearing? Hey i dont want to see one hood in the game. I want to see 30 different ones with different stats etc. So theres lots of oppurtunity for all lvls of players. Far too often there are posts saying what the casual players shouldnt be allowed to have. But I digress, and certainly just fed the troll.</p><p> </p><p>Rhys 68 assassin kithicor</p>

[dj_krztoff]

I agree that the low levels should have a profession cowl ... but it should be pink; perhaps with little delicate flowers and rainbows on it.... grind, sissies.<div></div>

[Fahrenheig]

<div><span><blockquote><hr>ZaranilShadowfiend wrote:please never post again under any circumstance<div></div><hr></blockquote>I love this post.  I hate these threads of people just whining...you work for the cool end game gear and you get it.  I had no problem not having a hood until this point.  Are you upset that noobie bards dont get feathered hats?  Its jus stupid, you reap the rewards for you effort.</span></div>

[Mastera]

werd/agree<div></div>

[Forsaken Falc]

<div></div><div><blockquote><hr>ZaranilShadowfiend wrote:please never post again under any circumstance<div></div><hr></blockquote>I love this post.  I hate these threads of people just whining...you work for the cool end game gear and you get it.  I had no problem not having a hood until this point.  Are you upset that noobie bards dont get feathered hats?  Its jus stupid, you reap the rewards for you effort.<p></p><div>Luciian 70 AssassinEternal ChoasBefallen</div></div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><div>Well I Love post of People who think there top [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] due to beeing a certian lvl and have certian item's the poor newbs can't have.</div><div>(I'm now lvl 70 and had the hood for awhile) However the ideal's for the newb's are steal the same. THEY DESERVE A HOOD!!!!!</div><div> </div><div>Any Assassin lvl 1-60 I feel the up most sorry for due to SOE are [Removed for Content] [Removed for Content]'s who only give out to the People who don't deserve it <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div><div> </div><div>Keep Flameing and proveing to the world just how selfish You guy's are.</div>

[Carna]

<div></div><p>I pay the subscription rate as anybody else. While I agree that it's appropriate the equipment scale over the course of character development, the idea that lower level players don't have a right to participate in new graphic content to some extent is flawed on many levels. Moreso SoE appreciated this, are and have started rolling in the graphics content for lower level characters.</p><p>So for those we their snoots in the air. Tough. It's happening.</p><p>I'm just relieved there's a hood option for my Brigand down the line somewhere <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>That being said, and the warm fuzzies aside... Forsaken, grow up; and please never post again under any circumstances. You make me fear for the future of the human race.</p>

[Sarkoris]

<div></div><p>I think one of the points of getting to high level is not only the ability to raid, but also to look like you have obtained high level. I think class hats should remain a badge of honour, class of distinction etc. It shows you did the hard yards and arrived. I am not saying that if they do finally add a head piece to the AQ series, it should not be something that suits the class better, a cowl even. But it should not have the same look the class defining head piece. It cheapens and lessens the achievement of completing the quest and obtaining a level high enough to use it.</p><p>I have nothing against your suggestion Marlz, but it should be modified a bit to not be exactly as the high quest reward. I am really trying not to be to harsh on you or the idea here. And I am probasly double your age, not 10+. But for the love of Thule, invest in a dictionary, or a spell checker, something. Your ideas are getting lost in translation, and I am getting a headache reading it.</p><p> </p><p>Sark.</p>

[Forsaken Falc]

<div></div><p>Don't agree with My idear's? simple solitution don't [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]n post.......</p><p>As for the Flamer's its Amazeing You are all from raiding guild's. Hell I'm in 1 of the top 5 on najena and still think out for the little guy's being apart of something big doesn't mean You'r ego's got to grow to the point of where you'r nothing but a midage depressed [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] [Removed for Content] who is feeling frighten at the fact of People whom to them are way below there lvl are HAVEING FUN!!!!!!!!</p><p>I scence more flame's but honestly [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] it I'm prepair to hear the worse You guy's can spit out and I'll be sitting on the edge of a cliff peering into the eye's of decietfullness of the up most form.</p><p>As for the People telling Me to grow up. Ever notice how children are most of the time un-judgemental un-selfcenterd and most importent look out for the people who are smaller then them. I say to You's GROW DOWN!</p><p>Anyway's I'm sick og talking to the People who are hear to set the lower ppl back.</p><p>All sins below 67 and desireing a hood /feedback with all you'r might and if a leet hardcore player eva start [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] just scream .....</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>"NOOB LIFE"!</p>

[HellRaiserXX]

<div></div><p>I like the idea of having a hood, but I hate looking like the person next to me.  I leave my hood off because everyone and their brother is running around with a hood on and I can't wait till 500 newbie chars are running around with hoods on too.  I don't mind if they get a hood, I just wish I could make mine look different than theirs somehow. The class hats define you as being high level and was introduced in high level content, they should have to be high level to experience it. Again if they make one for the lower 50 I wouldn't be mad, but I am still for a defining line between the lower levels and the high levels.  It gives them something to look forward to when they reach the high levels.</p><p>Also, SOE has a habit of recycling graphics, so I guess this is another way to do it. One thing you have to think about is what will go into adding these class hats to the lower levels.  Is there going to be one for every 10 lvls? How many new quests are going to have to be added? Will it be a signature quest? Or will they just pass out cowls to every little kid on the block? Honestly I dont want SOE to have to invest all that time in something like this when half the current content needs so much work as it is.</p>

[Graton]

<div><span><blockquote><hr>HellRaiserXX wrote:<div></div><p>I like the idea of having a hood, but I hate looking like the person next to me.  I leave my hood off because everyone and their brother is running around with a hood on and I can't wait till 500 newbie chars are running around with hoods on too.  I don't mind if they get a hood, I just wish I could make mine look different than theirs somehow. The class hats define you as being high level and was introduced in high level content, they should have to be high level to experience it. Again if they make one for the lower 50 I wouldn't be mad, but I am still for a defining line between the lower levels and the high levels.  It gives them something to look forward to when they reach the high levels.</p><p>Also, SOE has a habit of recycling graphics, so I guess this is another way to do it. One thing you have to think about is what will go into adding these class hats to the lower levels.  Is there going to be one for every 10 lvls? How many new quests are going to have to be added? Will it be a signature quest? Or will they just pass out cowls to every little kid on the block? Honestly I dont want SOE to have to invest all that time in something like this when half the current content needs so much work as it is.</p><hr></blockquote>i agree and to make matters even worse, they add an item with the same graphic which can be equipped by any scout. i'm forgetting the name right now but i've seen it on a brigand before.brigands have a unique graphic, we should also. sharing with rangers is reasonable althougth i think everyone class should get something unique, but using our "unique" design for generic scout loot is really irritating.</span></div>

[Carna]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Graton wrote:<div><span>brigands have a unique graphic, we should also. sharing with rangers is reasonable althougth i think everyone class should get something unique, but using our "unique" design for generic scout loot is really irritating.</span></div><hr></blockquote><p>Oh come one, you have to make a special case for the Brigands, you've seen our hat <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>It's not a coincidence that Swashbucklers can't wear the hood you're talking about but Brigands can. Somebody somewhere at SoE had to have said "the Brigands have a point, it does look [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]ing lame".</p>

[Graton]

<div><span><blockquote><hr>Carnagh wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>Graton wrote:<div><span>brigands have a unique graphic, we should also. sharing with rangers is reasonable althougth i think everyone class should get something unique, but using our "unique" design for generic scout loot is really irritating.</span></div><hr></blockquote><p>Oh come one, you have to make a special case for the Brigands, you've seen our hat <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>It's not a coincidence that Swashbucklers can't wear the hood you're talking about but Brigands can. Somebody somewhere at SoE had to have said "the Brigands have a point, it does look [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]ing lame".</p><hr></blockquote>lame!!!, i beg to differ. the brigand hat is the shiz. if there were an equippable hat with that graphic i'd have it in an instant. a hamburgling rat would be the ultimate cool.</span></div>

[Carna]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Graton wrote:<span><div>lame!!!, i beg to differ. the brigand hat is the shiz. if there were an equippable hat with that graphic i'd have it in an instant. a hamburgling rat would be the ultimate cool.</span></div><hr></blockquote>You're mean... you're going to make me cry soon <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Sarkoris]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Forsaken Falcon wrote:<div></div><p>Don't agree with My idear's? simple solitution don't [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]n post.......</p><p>As for the Flamer's its Amazeing You are all from raiding guild's. Hell I'm in 1 of the top 5 on najena and still think out for the little guy's being apart of something big doesn't mean You'r ego's got to grow to the point of where you'r nothing but a midage depressed [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] [Removed for Content] who is feeling frighten at the fact of People whom to them are way below there lvl are HAVEING FUN!!!!!!!!</p><p>I scence more flame's but honestly [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] it I'm prepair to hear the worse You guy's can spit out and I'll be sitting on the edge of a cliff peering into the eye's of decietfullness of the up most form.</p><p>As for the People telling Me to grow up. Ever notice how children are most of the time un-judgemental un-selfcenterd and most importent look out for the people who are smaller then them. I say to You's GROW DOWN!</p><p>Anyway's I'm sick og talking to the People who are hear to set the lower ppl back.</p><p>All sins below 67 and desireing a hood /feedback with all you'r might and if a leet hardcore player eva start [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] just scream .....</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>"NOOB LIFE"!</p><hr></blockquote><p>So we can only post if we agree with your ideas. Somehow that doesn't seem fair.</p><p> </p><p>Sark.</p>

[Salat]

<div></div><p>I dont see the conection to having a cowl and looking like an assassin.  If you feel you are not an assassin, because you dont have it, then you have a lack of imagination.  As far as adding them to lower levels, sure why not.  The quest to get it wasnt that hard.  Yes it took time, but hard, not at all. </p><p>As far as looks go, nothing says lower level armor cant look great.  And yes more powerful monsters should drop more powerful items, but there is no reason why it should look better.  Yes, we all want to stand out.  Yes all crafted armor for that level should look alike.  But as far as the other stuff goes, the looks should vary. </p>

[StrollingWolf]

<div></div><span>Remember civility in posting please. If you don't agree with another poster you <em>can</em> post, just do it civilly, and if you're going to respond to someone who doesn't agree with you then make your reply civil as well.</span>

[Jvaloth]

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[Fahrenheig]

<div><span><blockquote><hr>Graton wrote:<div><span><blockquote><hr>HellRaiserXX wrote:<div></div><p>I like the idea of having a hood, but I hate looking like the person next to me.  I leave my hood off because everyone and their brother is running around with a hood on and I can't wait till 500 newbie chars are running around with hoods on too.  I don't mind if they get a hood, I just wish I could make mine look different than theirs somehow. The class hats define you as being high level and was introduced in high level content, they should have to be high level to experience it. Again if they make one for the lower 50 I wouldn't be mad, but I am still for a defining line between the lower levels and the high levels.  It gives them something to look forward to when they reach the high levels.</p><p>Also, SOE has a habit of recycling graphics, so I guess this is another way to do it. One thing you have to think about is what will go into adding these class hats to the lower levels.  Is there going to be one for every 10 lvls? How many new quests are going to have to be added? Will it be a signature quest? Or will they just pass out cowls to every little kid on the block? Honestly I dont want SOE to have to invest all that time in something like this when half the current content needs so much work as it is.</p><hr></blockquote>i agree and to make matters even worse, they add an item with the same graphic which can be equipped by any scout. i'm forgetting the name right now but i've seen it on a brigand before.brigands have a unique graphic, we should also. sharing with rangers is reasonable althougth i think everyone class should get something unique, but using our "unique" design for generic scout loot is really irritating.</span></div><hr></blockquote>heres one with the same graphic as the assassin class hat available for all scouts.  I dont really care, just an example of what your talking about, does seem kinda sad though how soe just recycles the same graphics for a general item they used for a class specific item.<img src="http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i76/Luciian7/EQ2_000121.jpg"></span></div>

[CrimsonValerian]

<div></div>Maybe we should get some kind of mr. miyagi bandana, with a skull....and........knives or....waitaminute i dont wanna be johney depp.  Every mmo has higher content that lower levels cannot get until they reach said level, final fantasy was notorious for it, and i still feel like crud that i never finished my red mage aq, i wanted that [Removed for Content] hat bad.  But saying that every level from level 1 should have access to it, just makes it another generic item with different stats for 70 levels, i'd rather have to quest and kill for it then go down to the neighborhood tailor and ask em to make me one.  It just shouldnt be for all levels.  I think our hood should cover our face except for our eyes, ninja ratonga assassin for the kill!!!

[steelbadger]

<div>Now then, here we seem to have two camps:</div><div> </div><div>1)  Lower level characters should be able to look cool, its what assassins have always wanted, why is it only avaliable to the very highest characters?</div><div> </div><div>2)  It is only right that higher level characters should get the better gear (both technically and aesthetically), you put more in; you get more out.  It is the way that the rest of the world works, why should this game be any different?</div><div> </div><div>Now, to be quite honest i am with camp 2, however i am ashamed to be part of that group, a group of people who seem to have zero communication skills, and just as little understanding of other people's positions.</div><div> </div><div>It is indeed as the world works and will always work, no one ever gained power or noteriety without a bit of work.  But they way that the people on this thread present it?  "I have the time to grind for 8 hours a day and i see no reason why everyone else should not be able to also" or "go grind, sissies"</div><div> </div><div>The way that camp 2's argument is presented is in the most selfish way i know.  "I want to be part of an elite little club of people with these hats, no one else is allowed in"</div><div> </div><div>This approach by so-called "hardcore" gamers when people ask for <em>anything</em> has made me somewhat...  desensitesed to your plight.  You have worked your way to the top of a little hill, which makes you think you are taller, better than all around you, and you would like to keep it that way, unfortunately you cannot mask your intentions.</div><div> </div><div> </div><div><u><strong>For me the solution is simple.  Low levels can have the look without any stats and high levels can have both practicality and whimsicality combined.  If a low level player wants to RP then they can don the totally useless (from a hack and slash point-of-view) assassins hood.  Only a high level player gets a pulchritudinous hat with the stats to match.</strong></u></div>

[HellRaiserXX]

<div></div>I like the idea of having a no stat cowl for low levels.  I think the reason the high level characters dont want it available to the low levels is because we had to wait almost 2 years for SOE to give us our assassin cowl.  Ive played an assassin since launch and have always wanted a cowl, but never got one even at high levels.  I guess I kinda feel rewarded by SOE for staying with the game so long and achieving the high level content. No one in this game deserves the cowl more than the assassins who have been here since day one and been asking for it.  I am selfish and although I wouldn't care to much if lowbies got one I waited a [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]ing long time for my cowl and see no reason why the lowbies shouldn't have something to look forward to when they reach high level content.

[Serpent2000]

<div></div><p>In Anarchy Online the Assassins could get a balaclava type of hood, that when you leveld you could pay a cash fee to upgrade the stats on it to match your new level......just somthing to think about <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p> </p>

[Jvaloth]

<div></div><div>Look,</div><div> </div><div>When we were lower level we wanted to look cool and we looked lame.</div><div> </div><div> </div><div>Do the time. Reap the rewards.</div><div> </div><div> </div><div>Atleast you have itemized dungeons with cool stuff and unique looks. We all looked the same and all our loot was vendor trash.</div><div> </div><div> </div>

[Kaiser Sigma]

<div></div><p>If you play a female character I agree with all the hate.. grind and earn your hat, it looks badass. If you play a male char (like me) then.. [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] are you complaining about? We look like a Sith lord not an Assassin, let 'em have it they won't look pretty anyways. =P</p><p>On a side note.. I got the Villain's cowl last night and I can honestly say we got screwed. Of all the class specific hats that drop at Vault ours is by far, stat wise, the weakest one.</p>

[DementedGerbil]

<div></div><p>the hooded look is ok at best IMO, but i want a real cloak, not a wanna-be cloak, the necro pets in kos have sick [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] looking armor and a sick as looking cloak, and if it can be done on a pet why not us?, oh wait the devs said it would use up to much processing power to render the cloth of a cloak or cape, BUT THE PETS HAVE THEM!!!!</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>thats about all i have to say on the subject</p>

[HellRaiserXX]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>DementedGerbil wrote:<div></div><p>the hooded look is ok at best IMO, but i want a real cloak, not a wanna-be cloak, the necro pets in kos have sick [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] looking armor and a sick as looking cloak, and if it can be done on a pet why not us?, oh wait the devs said it would use up to much processing power to render the cloth of a cloak or cape, BUT THE PETS HAVE THEM!!!!</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>thats about all i have to say on the subject</p><hr></blockquote>Dark Age of Camelot had cloaks on every character, you looked [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] without one and they had inferior graphics to EQ2.  They most definately have the rendering power to put in cloaks.

[DarkangelCA]

<DIV>DAOC Cloaks were great, except for the added effect of huge lag increase when you had large groups of ppl together.  Some of the larger raids we used to take cloaks off to drop the lag, and you could see a big difference.  They fixed most ofthe cloak lag about the time ToA came out, but still increases lag. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>This game has the added advantage of multiple instances, and your not gonna see 200+ ppl in an area at one time so it be easier to implement them.  I'd love to see full cloaks and capes.</DIV>