OK so did they nerf poison, or not?

[hammong]

<DIV>I was all bummed out to read that poison damage would not proc on primary weapon only, but I was surprised to see that my BOW continues to proc poison when pulling -- sometimes a double proc just like it used to.    Is this because I'm still working off the poison charge from pre-LU18, or did they fail to remove the poison proc from ranged combat arts? </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I use a 1-hand slashing and 1-hand piercing weapon and fabled shield, so the dual wield offhand proc issue wasn't tested. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>- Denzel Lugassi, 43 Assassin, Mistmoore</DIV>

[Runewind]

Nope. Bows still proc poison. A little unfair I guess to assassins but really if they didn't rangers would never get poison off. I really felt for you guys during this update. I really hoped the secondary thing wouldn't actually make it live. But not losing poison when you die is well needed and I guess it's an okay tradeoff what I think is actually worse for you guys is that I think it counts for Offensive stance aswell. I equipped just my secondary melee weapon and did offensive stance to see if it proced and it didn't. I might just have been really unlucky but that I would think would be the major hit in your DPS. Poison procs on a 25% after all so you're still pretty likely to get it even just with primary. I am glad to see that they made your AB faster all-in-all they really should have treated you better this update =/ maybe they will next update. We can keep our fingers crossed. <div></div>

[NerroVI]

It don't matter anymore they have shown me exactly what they think of the Assassin class. I have been a huge backer of SoE from the days of EQ2 beta, played a assassin then, played it when it went live and have played it for a year and a month, have asked them to define us and make it right and I am simply tired of getting the shaft one week then a decent fix then next LU shafted 2x then next LU etc over and over.   <div></div>

[iciss19]

This really is a mind-blower.  When I read about this change when they first released the LU 18 Test Server notes I assumed it was going to make poisons not proc on ranged, and was intended to nerf rangers down to our dps.  As I, like most, want to see our damage increased, not other classes nerfed, I thought that would be crappy but I would've understood the thinking.  Making this a nerf to melee poison only is just nerfing an already jacked up class, I don't understand the thinking at all.

[davian9]

<P>What concers me the most is that I get the feeling with what occured with this LU that SOE is done looking at or "fixing" assassins.  To be honest we did git some help in the last few LU's </P> <P>1. duel weild dps increase</P> <P>2. Deathly Blade timer reduced to 3 min</P> <P>3. Assassins Mark line improved</P> <P>4.group  stealth attacks improved</P> <P>5. crippling strike timer reduced</P> <P>However it seems with everyhing they give us they feel something must be taken away which to a great extent limits how much they have inproved our class </P> <P>1. adding positoin to crippling strike</P> <P>2.causing the root to possibly break on the freezing strike line when dammage is delt</P> <P>3. decreasing poison melee procs </P> <P>4. not allowing murderous design to be cast on pets</P> <P>Alot of people have posted recently and said assassins are not broken.  I agree assassins are not "broken" they are playable but as soon as you compare assassins to other dps classes it becomes very evident that even though we are playable we are still FAR from equal.  I think the assassin class is better off now then we were 2 months ago but I also think more work still needs to be done.  If anyone from SOE reads this please do not stop working on us yet we still need more balancing...</P>

[MystaSkrat]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> TwistedRiddles wrote:<BR>Nope. Bows still proc poison. A little unfair I guess to assassins but really if they didn't <STRONG>rangers would never get poison off.</STRONG> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>Instead, they'll proc it <EM>and</EM> all the other procs on pretty much every combat art, still.  Hooray!  Proc formulas in this game suck</DIV>

[ilucife]

yeah i think its [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] that a ranger in my guild can proc Adeste's, stun poison,  his prismatic, a poison dot proc off of a fabled dagger from SOTL, and gleaming strike from his bow this almost every CA <div></div>

[iciss19]

Today was the first time I'd run my assassin in a while.  He's only level 30 but his dps is definitely down, might have been b/c I was noobing out but I think more likely that the aggregate recent changes have been negative for us.