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Kinvore
11-20-2005, 09:12 AM
You know, I always promised myself that I would never post on here to whine about something.  I've always felt that complaining won't get you anywhere, but now something has happened that, if true, REALLY ticks me off and I can't remain silent.  After wasting a vanadium cluster and some gold to have my level 55 Concealment combat art made, I discovered that the adept 1 is EXACTLY the same.  If there is a difference I'd like to know what it is, but I can't see one. That would be SO not right.  Did I miss a memo or something here?  Just wondering and stuff. Pouncer <div></div>

Jakr
11-20-2005, 09:53 AM
yup alot of people got owned by that. <div></div>

Kabahl
11-20-2005, 09:59 AM
I hate to be the bearer of bad  tidings, but no, there is no difference.  Originally, the ONLY way to get Concealment was as an Adept III, but since they changed it so the 'Ancient Teaching" spells drop now as Adept 1s . . . . yes, you wasted a rare.  Sorry brother, I feel your pain  Think of all the spells we lost (especially the stealth spells) that many assassins upgraded that they no longer have . . . heck, I upgraded Pathfinding to Adept III WAAaaaay back in the day . . . only to find there was no difference.  Sorry man, I reallly am . . . - Charn the Loyal, 60 Assassin, Toxxulia <div></div>

khalysta
11-20-2005, 10:07 AM
Technically it shouldnt have any upgrade paths like the other stealths. 

Skratttt
11-20-2005, 10:50 AM
<DIV>Yeah i feel your pain <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I got lucky when looking through the spells available on broker i saw it as adept 1 along with apply poison(adept 1 is nice for groupmate) and snatched em both up before i could use either.......</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

Tealdea
11-20-2005, 01:44 PM
<span><blockquote><hr>khalysta wrote:Technically it shouldnt have any upgrade paths like the other stealths.  <div></div><hr></blockquote>Your right. But this was waaaaaay back when like he said lol. I upgraded mine to App4, no increase in stats, boooooo. O well.. You live this game, you leave this game....(if assassin's arn't fixed soon<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />)</span><div></div>

pczry
11-21-2005, 12:46 AM
oh wow, i had one made a month ago and didn't even pay bother to check if there was a difference or not =/ <div></div>

SmEaGoLLuM
11-21-2005, 07:11 AM
Don't worry many assassins were owned by this and many classes and players were owned by deleted spells in which they got masters for as well. <div></div>

Tealdea
11-21-2005, 07:41 PM
Concealment needs to be instant recovery dam n it. That tiny delay everyone is talking about is coming from the recovery!!!! If you could just macro it with a skill like say Cripple with Concealment having an instant recovery time it would be much better. Or just have it place us in stealth to start with and keep us stealthed through the attacks for 5 seconds, I don't care. /: ; usea Concealment ; usea Cripple and then I get ready to hit the other stealth attacks right when I see cripple being cast (sometimes and alot of the time it's better this way, beause autoattack damage seems to be a tiny bit slower often compared to a .5 second casting skill) <div></div>

Kinvore
11-26-2005, 02:45 AM
<P>Well, according to LU17b they are going to add a hate reducer to Concealment that will scale with its quality.  I guess they realized they screwed the pooch on this one and are trying to make amends.  I'll be happy based on how much hate reduction it gives for an adept 3.</P> <P>I've tried it a couple of times and I'm not impressed.  It doesn't seem to last as long as it says.  Is it something that can be broken by AEs or if a mob turns on me?</P> <P> </P> <P>Pouncer</P>

dea
11-26-2005, 03:52 AM
<span><span><blockquote><hr>Kinvore wrote:<div></div> <p>Well, according to LU17b they are going to add a hate reducer to Concealment that will scale with its quality.  I guess they realized they screwed the pooch on this one and are trying to make amends.  I'll be happy based on how much hate reduction it gives for an adept 3.</p> <p>I've tried it a couple of times and I'm not impressed.  It doesn't seem to last as long as it says.  Is it something that can be broken by AEs or if a mob turns on me?</p> <p>Pouncer</p><hr></blockquote>As with any other stealth, of course it can be broken by indirect AE damage and direct damage when a mob turns and starts to attack you.</span> It is further made tricky to get used to because the stealth only goes into effect when you make an attack, just remember to toggle melee auto-attack or use some other combat art of your choice as part of your concealment combo to ensure that you drop into stealth in a timely fashion before the duration is used up. </span><div></div>