New Training options

[khalysta]

<DIV>As moorgard posted elsewhere but in a quick and concise format without all the extras,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Level 10: (choose 1 for each level range)</DIV> <DIV>Sneak Attack<BR>Evade<BR>Ambush</DIV> <DIV>Dirty Tricks</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Level 20:</DIV> <DIV>Pierce<BR>Open Shot<BR>Blade Flurry<BR>Shrouded Strike</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Level 30:</DIV> <DIV>Ebon Blade<BR>Assassin's Blade<BR>Bleeder's Talent<BR>Cloaked Barb</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Level 40:<BR>Murderous Blade<BR>Moor<BR>Bloodthirster<BR>Condemning Blade</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Level 50:<BR>Blade Storm<BR>Mask of Night<BR>Garrote<BR>Punch Blade</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Level 60:<BR>Gorestrike<BR>Deathly Blade<BR>Stealthy Espionage<BR>Whirling Blades</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So this means all the old training skills which had some special extras over the basic skill are now gone and you can only choose one master 2 version of a recent skill every 10 levels.</DIV><p>Message Edited by khalysta on <span class=date_text>08-25-2005</span> <span class=time_text>03:33 PM</span>

[marcj]

<DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Interesting...do you know if Upgrade to Dirty Trick use the same timer as Anathema ?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Whirling Blades line, this is our offensive stance if I understand correctly. Does it still use (drain) as much power as it is now ?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks )</DIV>

[khalysta]

<DIV>All the training options are now is a free master spell every 10 levels.  So yes they will be on the same timer just like a master 1 dirty tricks will share a timer with anathema right now.</DIV>

[Demonskill]

<DIV>only spell that i still use for level 10 training spell was the one with 9 secs recast time frontal combat art spell (i forogt the name). So that means it's been removed since it's actually uses a different timer on all of our CA spells? </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>On the other hand, just curious, what will u guys choose when this goes live? i want some suggestion consider i wanna spend my rare wisely (currently level 47)</DIV>

[Xstrik]

well certainly not blade storm at lvl 50, since it gets replaced, it all depends what skills u have master 1, if u have none of them, i would go with punch blade, and for lvl 60, id have to look since im not 60 yet hehe <div></div>

[Demonskill]

<DIV>i think punch blade's debuff will get removed in the expansion, which leads it to not as good as now?</DIV>

[khalysta]

punch blade isnt a bad choice honestly. since its a 14 level cycle and it came at 49 it won't get replaced until an expansion lets us beyond level 60.  The same with mask of night since that would be level 61 to get.  Those two are also on a 10 second timer so their refresh rate and extra damage gained will far outdo any upgrade that garrote gets since its on a slower timer.

[marcj]

<DIV> </DIV> <DIV>little request <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> could you post screen shot of each combat training at 50 and 60 vs the version you have of the spell (like adept III or master I). Would be gratefull )</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thank you</DIV>

[Rylin1]

While the str still wasn't factoring in for the dmg, compared to adept 3's the master 2 at 50, with the exception of the blade storm(think that is the name) since it is replaced anyways. The difference in dmg is as follows. Mask of Night  10s recast Adept 3 251-419 Master 2 305-509 Difference 59-90 Garrote  1 min recast Adept 3 343-572    30 or 39% chance Stifle Master 2 417-695   69% chance Stifle Difference 74-123    30 or 39% more chance to Stifle Punch Blade 10s recast Adept 3 387-645 Master 2 469-783 Difference 82-138 These values mind you don't factor in Str, but I would assume they all will go up by the same depending on the Str.  I do not have the lvl 60 ones so hopefully someone else can help ya out there.  One thing is that MoN also puts ya in stealth so almost always using that, but with the new concealment ability, (I assume that adepts and beyond in that will increase the duration), might not have to rely on that and surviel for the stealth moves. Anyway just thought I'd let the above poster know and any others.  HTH <div></div>

[Demonskill]

<DIV>im level 47 right now, i got lingering blow adept 3 so far in this tier, wanted to know if i should invest a rhodium cluster on mask of night or punch blade, and get master 2 on the other choice. any hints would be helpful for me.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Also 1 special note is that because of my chain combo, i almost always use the MoN everytime when it pop, and probably punch blade line once to 3 times in a fight, donno if my combo will change after the combat revamp. just a little more info i can give out for some opinion thx.</DIV><p>Message Edited by Demonskiller on <span class=date_text>08-28-2005</span> <span class=time_text>11:02 AM</span>

[Graton]

that's a 20% upgrade going from adept 3 to master 2. that's really impressive. considering adept 3 was only a 12% increase over adept 1. it looks like the combat changes will make spell lvl matter more than it does right now. now my only debate will be mask of night or punchblade????? <div></div>

[Brianf]

<P>If I had to choose I would choose Punch Blade over MoN...</P> <P> </P> <P>You get more DPS out of the upgrade and since that is what we are all about now it only makes sense to do it the best you can.</P>

[sufix]

i think its going to be nice <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />