Grizzfazzle Bow

[Ranja]

<div><div>I finished Grizzfazzles errands the other night with a some of my guildies and we all went back and turned in the quest. I was a Ranger so I was naturally excited about taking the bow but had to give a long pause when I saw the stats on it and all my guild mates started linking their items into the guild chat window. I wound up with the bow since I figured I am a Ranger and to take anything else would be blashphemy but I am not sure I made the right choice. The dual wield weapon had +27 str and a DR of 52 (IIRC).</div><div> </div><div>Anyways, stats on bow were</div><div> </div><div>+20 str</div><div>+80 hlt +80 Pwr</div><div>+5 Ranged</div><div>DR 80.8</div><div>Grizzfazzle Blasts 235-385 heat damage</div><div> </div><div>OK, First of all the DR is not as high at the comparble two hander gotten from the quest. Second, only one stat is buffed and has the lowest benefit of all weapons. The mace has +27 wis AND +27 Int (wow!). Third, the proc is no better than the Ironwood Imbued Bow proc which I had and am feeling I should have just kept and chosen the dual wield.</div><div> </div><div>So, I ask you is this bow good? There are many others out there that have a better feel for equipment than I do. Should I be disappointed in this choice? If not, can you make me feel better by choosing this bow by telling me why it is not as bad as the other choices. Please help a doubting Ranger see the light<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div><div> </div><div>Elbryan66 Ranger</div></div>

[LoreLady]

To me I am going to go for the ebony long bow - I like the stats better, and I am a woodworker. And for me there is no better satasfaction  than using my own bow with my own name plastered all over it <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.

[Ranja]

<div></div><p>That is great and all but it does not make me feel better for making this choice<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Plus the DR is way lower that is why I figured Grizzfazzle would be a better choice. Anyone else want to give this doubting ranger some love<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p> </p><p>Elbryan66 Ranger</p>

[Zholain]

<font size="2">If it doesn't get missed in the LU this week, the damage rating on Grizzfazzle's should be increased.  They are doing this in an attempt to make ranged auto-attack as viable as melee auto-attack.  However, reports from test indicate that some of the dropped/quested bows are not being updated.As far as the strength goes, yeah it stinks.  But I don't really see SOE changing it simply because I don't think it's on their priority list.  I would claim a few other reasons, but I'm feeling a bit pessimistic today and don't really want to get started.I'm currently doing the quest, and I'm glad I'll get to see the devs' changes on ranged attack before I have to make the decision to choose the bow or the dual-wield weapon.</font><div></div>

[Shoenasty]

<div></div><p>The damage rating on this bow is way better than the ironwood or ebony crafted bows.  Your looking at 80ish DR rather than 50ish DR.  The +5 ranged is nice bonus too.  I've looked at all the crafted bows and they don't really compare imo.  The DD proc on Griz bow is also higher damage then the crafted ones,  not by much but still higher and it's FREE.</p><p> </p><p>The only thing I'm not happy with.........it that none of the bows seem to have any difference in the graphic.  You would think that being a ranger and using bows 95% of the time we play that the SoE would atleast give some difference of bow graphic.</p><p> </p><p>Anyway,  I'm a 70 ranger and I'm very happy with this bow personally.</p>

[Ranja]

<div></div><p>Yeah I am feeling like I got the shaft and should have chosen the dual wield weapon. Doh! Just makes no sense that a Ranger would go for the melee weapon over the bow. I honestly was bow all the way until  I saw the dual wield weapon and all the other weapons my guildmates were linking in guild chat. That gave me pause and made the bow look woefully inferior and I started thinking dual wield a little. But, in the end, I went with my original thought and chose the bow. Starting to think I made a bad mistake as the dual wield had +27 str and a great damage rating. I cant remeber if it had the same proc but if it does I am feeling even worse now<img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Elbryan66 Ranger</p>

[Ranja]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Shoenasty wrote:<div></div><p>The damage rating on this bow is way better than the ironwood or ebony crafted bows.  Your looking at 80ish DR rather than 50ish DR.  The +5 ranged is nice bonus too.  I've looked at all the crafted bows and they don't really compare imo.  The DD proc on Griz bow is also higher damage then the crafted ones,  not by much but still higher and it's FREE.</p><p> </p><p>The only thing I'm not happy with.........it that none of the bows seem to have any difference in the graphic.  You would think that being a ranger and using bows 95% of the time we play that the SoE would atleast give some difference of bow graphic.</p><p> </p><p>Anyway,  I'm a 70 ranger and I'm very happy with this bow personally.</p><hr></blockquote><p>OK Shoe thanks for the kind words<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I knew the DR was higher but the proc on the Ironwood is the same as the Grizzfazzle proc, I was not sure if it was higher than the Ebony but apparently it is. I dont care for stamina so missing out on the Ebony is not that big of a deal.  I am feeling a little better<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> What I was more disappointed in is the stats on the bow compared to the rest of the choices.  All other items have +27 on stats but the bow is +20 for some unknown reason.</p><p>thanks Shoe making this ranger feel a little bit better. And as you said it is free<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Elbryan66 Ranger</p>

[Deml]

<div></div>I took the Grizzfazzle bow and have never looked back.  I agree that more str on the bow would be nice but I'm not too overly worried about it.  From what I've seen of KoS drops so far, anything with 20 to a stat is on the low end of what's available anyway.  Keep in mind there are other quest bows, and fabled bows out there in this expansion so something you can get in the first week or two isn't going to be the one you have to use for the duration of the expansion, till the next comes out like it was in DoF.  I know there are at least 2 fabled bows from high end raid zones in KoS that have some very nice stats and effects.  If you're a casual player you have a few choices.  Raiders have a few options as well.

[ranma5]

If it makes you feel better, I'm an assassin, picked the dirk, and wish I had picked the bow.  I upgraded a tier 6 fabled weapon by picking the dirk, which is all well and good, but got an upgrade of about 6 DR points, froma 46 DR weapon to the 52 of the dirk.  I feel like I will eventually upgrade the dirk to something else.  The bow would have upgraded me from 46 DR on ironwood to around 80, which is an insane upgrade IMO.  And the bow has a proc, which is pretty significant.  I personally don't know of a better bow out there, but we haven't penetrated very deep into KoS raiding yet, so I hope there is one.  Splitscar Longbow just doesn't seem anywhere near as good.<div></div>

[Ranja]

<div></div><p>OK thanks everyone for the kind words<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I am feeling better about my choice. I prolly wont get to a fabled bow for sometime as my guild raids a tier behind so we are now working the T6 raids. On another note, what are some of the good dual wield weapons out there that I should be looking out for. Right now I have two dual wields that have a DR of about 42. I am looking for better. Anyone have any suggestions about quested dual wields or others I should be looking out for.</p><p>Elbryan66 RangerEverfrost</p>

[The_Wind]

<div><span><blockquote><hr><p>The only thing I'm not happy with.........it that none of the bows seem to have any difference in the graphic.  You would think that being a ranger and using bows 95% of the time we play that the SoE would atleast give some difference of bow graphic.</p><hr></blockquote>Apperently you haven't seen the Ghostly Bow of Bylze used then. =P  Spectral Bow for the win, too bad it lacks suffecient stats/proc to make it a viable choice.  however, it is great to see a 75% chance to proc poison on it with its 9.0 delay.  And often times seein it hit for 1200 damage makes papa happy. </span></div>

[Marcuzs]

<div></div><div></div>The options for bows are still rather limited at the moment. There are more bow options than normal but the Grizzle bow is the best you will likely see outside of raids. Weapons on the other hand are fairly common. I have seen treasured weapons with more than 52 DR. The fang from Blackscale Sepulcher has 53.7 (or close to it). Granted they wont likely have the proc that the DW from Grizzles has but I dont think thats a huge problem for a Ranger.<p>Message Edited by Marcuzs on <span class="date_text">03-20-2006</span><span class="time_text">09:24 AM</span></p>

[Shoenasty]

<div></div><div></div><p>Bentgate,  there are plenty of weps out there with more than 42 DR.  T6 raids will land you some,  Foremans shank from GoAA,  there is a nice fabled razor from Courts,  and many more.  Peacock wep is nice and I still use that myself.</p><p>I just got a server discovery wep from Labs raid zone, T7, called Absolution.  It has the best graphic I've seen to date.  Glows red and bright,  looks like I have a red light saber.  DR on it is 62ish for a duel wield.</p><p> </p><p>There are also some nice T7 weps in zones like Blackscale Selpulcher, Halls of Fate, and such.   Just group, raid, and pray for phat lewts.  lol.</p><p> </p><p>Here is the Absolution wep.  Pic is kinda screwed up but I copied from another post,  that's not mine.  It has 25 str and agil though.  The first +25 for str is at end of LORE NO-TRADE.</p><p> </p><p></p><strong><span class="itemTitle">Absolution</span></strong><strong><img src="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/images/Icons/icon_item_2372.jpg"></strong><font color="#ffff00">First Discovered By: </font><a target="_blank" href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/pplayer.vm?characterId=103562102">Cleonia</a> (<a target="_blank" href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/guild.vm?guildId=80102">Allure</a>)<a target="_blank" href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/server.vm?serverId=102">Najena</a>March 11, 2006<img src="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/images/en/tiers/fabled.gif"><span><font color="#eaea88"><strong>LORE NO-TRADE </strong></font></span><font color="green"><strong>+25</strong></font><span><div align="left"><font color="green"><strong>Strength</strong></font></div></span><font color="green"><strong>+25</strong></font><span><div align="left"><font color="green"><strong>Agility</strong></font></div></span><font color="green"><strong>+12</strong></font><span><div align="left"><font color="green"><strong>Stamina</strong></font></div></span><font color="green"><strong>+14</strong></font><span><div align="left"><font color="green"><strong>Intelligence</strong></font></div></span><font color="green"><strong>+80</strong></font><span><div align="left"><font color="green"><strong>health</strong></font></div></span><font color="green"><strong>+60</strong></font><span><div align="left"><font color="green"><strong>power</strong></font></div></span><font color="#7ed7df"><strong></strong></font><strong>Dual Wield Pierce </strong>Damage:<strong>25 - 74 (61.97 Rating) </strong>Delay:<strong>1.6 </strong>Weight:<strong>2.0 </strong>Slots:<strong>Primary Secondary </strong>Level:<strong>68</strong><strong>Brigand</strong>, <strong>Berserker</strong>, <strong>Troubador</strong>, <strong>Assassin</strong>, <strong>Swashbuckler</strong>, <strong>Guardian</strong>, <strong>Dirge</strong>, <strong>Ranger</strong><p>Message Edited by Shoenasty on <span class="date_text">03-20-2006</span><span class="time_text">10:01 AM</span></p>

[Jay]

<div></div><p>Hmm, food for thought here... I fig'd the bow was a given for us, but now I'm questioning that choice. I already have an imbued ebony longbow, and I'm DWing Blackscale Shortsword and Steelrend's Flight Blade. I still don't have a Legendary T7 piercer, but I might have one made from a xeg cluster I just got the other day. I'm 66th level at the moment. I raid, but not every other day or anything. I'll eventually start getting more time in the high-end dungeons and instances in T7.</p><p>What do you guys think?</p><p>Also, Cat, if you or your peeps need an extra body for this quest, give me a holler will ya? I've done the 20 ravasects already, but our attempt on the Den that night was unsuccessful that night, and the rest of my guildies who are in the mid-high 60s have since finished this and moved on. Nobody's interested in going back to the Den at this point, so I'm on my own for finishing this quest. Tex, same goes for you if anyone in CM hasn't finished this yet...</p>

[Ranja]

<div></div><p>Yeah Jay that is why I posted this. I always thought the bow was a given as well since we were Rangers. For me the upgrade was from a Ironwood bow though. I posted the same thread in the items and equipment forum and got a similar response as here. The bow is better since there are fewer bows out there while there are many DW to be had. I am feeling better about my bow choice but the Str is lacking compared to the DW which is +27 str and a DR of 52 I believe. Obviously, I went bow and felt bad abouty my decision but after reading some of these posts and the ones on the other forum I am feeling a little better. Plus, the Bow has a DR of 80.8 which is alot higher than the Ebony. And, if they make it on par with the 2 -hander from the quest (as they said they would) it would only get increased more.</p><p>FWIW, Jay, a DW made from Xeg would not be legendary anymore<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Elbryan66 RangerEverfrost</p>

[Shoenasty]

<div></div><div></div><p>I love the bow personally,  and if they change it and make it even better then wooty woot!</p><p>Jay,  as for the Den instance........just take couple healers, 66+ tank, and some dps and you guys will rock that place.  It's fairly easy with the right group.  I'm not sure about your sever,  but on Unrest,  there are usually tons of groups looking for others to do the Den with so just join up and knock it out.  The bow is awesome!</p><p> </p><p>There are too many other DW weps out there that are really nice so I would go with bow for any ranger out there.</p><p> </p><p>Vorlon</p><p>70 Ranger of Unrest</p><p>The Knights of Dawn Fire guild</p><p>Message Edited by Shoenasty on <span class="date_text">03-21-2006</span><span class="time_text">10:00 AM</span></p>

[Star]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Jay42 wrote:<div></div><p>Hmm, food for thought here... I fig'd the bow was a given for us, but now I'm questioning that choice. I already have an imbued ebony longbow, and I'm DWing Blackscale Shortsword and Steelrend's Flight Blade. I still don't have a Legendary T7 piercer, but I might have one made from a xeg cluster I just got the other day. I'm 66th level at the moment. I raid, but not every other day or anything. I'll eventually start getting more time in the high-end dungeons and instances in T7.</p><p>What do you guys think?</p><p>Also, Cat, if you or your peeps need an extra body for this quest, give me a holler will ya? I've done the 20 ravasects already, but our attempt on the Den that night was unsuccessful that night, and the rest of my guildies who are in the mid-high 60s have since finished this and moved on. Nobody's interested in going back to the Den at this point, so I'm on my own for finishing this quest. Tex, same goes for you if anyone in CM hasn't finished this yet...</p><hr></blockquote>Good T7 Legendary Piercer... Keep going to Blackscale, there's a pierce that sometimes drops from the same mob that drops the Shortsword. It's pretty nice stats and a poison proc. Forget the name off the top of my head.

[The_Wind]

That would most likely be the Turadramins Fang, no? <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <div></div>

[Star]

<div></div>Yes. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Deml]

<div></div>As stated earlier, I took the bow and I enjoy it.  My weapons when I took the bow was the Prismatic Swiftblade of Scale in off hand and Prissy 2.0 in main hand.  No, I've never been able to get my hands on a shield from Zalak.  Last week I got the server discovery on an Adamantine Dragonscale I believe is what it was called.  It's a T7 piercing weapon with 28 str on it.  It dropped in either the Lab or Temple of Scale, I can't remember which now.  Regardless, it was a pretty early "raid mob" in the expansion and it's a really nice weapon (100 hp/power too).  There are piercing/slashing weapons out there that will help make up for the low stats on this bow.  At least imo.

[Ranja]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>The_Wind wrote:That would most likely be the Turadramins Fang, no? <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <div></div><hr></blockquote><p>Just got this last night. 55.2 DR for a DW piercer. Very nice<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p> </p>

[Marcuzs]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Jay42 wrote:<div></div><p>Hmm, food for thought here... I fig'd the bow was a given for us, but now I'm questioning that choice. I already have an imbued ebony longbow, and I'm DWing Blackscale Shortsword and Steelrend's Flight Blade. I still don't have a Legendary T7 piercer, but I might have one made from a xeg cluster I just got the other day. I'm 66th level at the moment. I raid, but not every other day or anything. I'll eventually start getting more time in the high-end dungeons and instances in T7.</p><p>What do you guys think?</p><p>Also, Cat, if you or your peeps need an extra body for this quest, give me a holler will ya? I've done the 20 ravasects already, but our attempt on the Den that night was unsuccessful that night, and the rest of my guildies who are in the mid-high 60s have since finished this and moved on. Nobody's interested in going back to the Den at this point, so I'm on my own for finishing this quest. Tex, same goes for you if anyone in CM hasn't finished this yet...</p><hr></blockquote>You will find better DW soon enough, dont worry about that. What I find interesting is that your guildes, who aren't 70 yet, don't want to go to Den. Den is by far the best experience zone you will find all the way to 70. It repops fast and you will get at least 10% per clearing if not more. Not to mention there is no contest for spawns and very little lag if any. For some reason people like to go to Palace of the Awakened to exp but they are just slowing themselves down in my opinion.

[Cron]

<div><span><blockquote><hr>Marcuzs wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>Jay42 wrote:<div></div><p>Hmm, food for thought here... I fig'd the bow was a given for us, but now I'm questioning that choice. I already have an imbued ebony longbow, and I'm DWing Blackscale Shortsword and Steelrend's Flight Blade. I still don't have a Legendary T7 piercer, but I might have one made from a xeg cluster I just got the other day. I'm 66th level at the moment. I raid, but not every other day or anything. I'll eventually start getting more time in the high-end dungeons and instances in T7.</p><p>What do you guys think?</p><p>Also, Cat, if you or your peeps need an extra body for this quest, give me a holler will ya? I've done the 20 ravasects already, but our attempt on the Den that night was unsuccessful that night, and the rest of my guildies who are in the mid-high 60s have since finished this and moved on. Nobody's interested in going back to the Den at this point, so I'm on my own for finishing this quest. Tex, same goes for you if anyone in CM hasn't finished this yet...</p><hr></blockquote>You will find better DW soon enough, dont worry about that. What I find interesting is that your guildes, who aren't 70 yet, don't want to go to Den. <font color="#ffff00">Den is by far the best experience zone you will find all the way to 70.</font> It repops fast and you will get at least 10% per clearing if not more. Not to mention there is no contest for spawns and very little lag if any. For some reason people like to go to Palace of the Awakened to exp but they are just slowing themselves down in my opinion.<hr></blockquote>Agreed...  I love the den.  Will go in anytime you want Jay... Finished it 5 times now.  It's becoming my Roost>Poets..</span></div>

[Jay]

<div></div><p>I really don't know the reasoning (if any) behind it, but they seem to prefer places like HoF, PoA, Blackscale, and Vaults. Probably more named mobs and better loot? I don't think anyone has done a recreational trip to Den yet - it's been a couple runs to finish Grizzlefizzle, and once they were done, they moved on. Our guild is in a tight spot right now b/c only one of our tanks is active in T7; we have three or four more that are right around 60, but they aren't playing much, so I only have one option for guild groups that can handle Den. I've been looking for a pickup group to hit Den for the last week, but no dice there yet. <shrug> </p><p>I'll get it eventually. It doesn't really bother me anymore - I really wanted to have it when I dinged 65, but at this point I'm almost 67 and I'm not too concerned, it's just one more loose end to wrap up someday.</p>

[Shoenasty]

<div></div><p>They are probably hitting PoA and HoF for their Hoo'Loh hat updates or the Mark of Awakening quest updates.  Blackscale and Vaults are great for loot.  PoA has good dragon camps too and it's still a good place to exp grind but I would prefer Den myself for exp grinding since it's an instance and not camped.  The Devourer at the end of quest is pretty good loot also.</p><p> </p><p>Vorlon</p><p>70 Ranger of Unrest</p><p>The Knights of Dawn Fire guild</p>

[Jay]

<div></div><div></div><p>Got the crew into Den the other night and got my update. Devourer dropped four pieces of Legendary loot - our coercer with l33t hax won it all. Both Dark and Light Chitin rings were in there, and that Staff of Enlightenment. Don't remember the fourth thing, but yeah, very nice loot for a pretty quick run.</p><p>Ironically enough, I finally got my bow and I'm unfortunately not all that impressed with it. Starting to think I should have just kept the imbued ebony, especially now that LU21 raised its DR but didn't change Grizz at all. Correct me if I'm wrong, but imbued ebony has more proc damage, procs magic instead of heat, procs more often b/c of longer delay, and has better total stats than the paltry +20 STR that Grizzfazzle gives you. Thankfully it includes +5 Ranged, b/c without that, I don't think I'd consider this an upgrade.</p><p>Message Edited by Jay42 on <span class="date_text">03-24-2006</span><span class="time_text">01:03 PM</span></p>

[Ranja]

<div></div><p>I am glad you are finally feeling my pain<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I have been posting about this bow for 2 weeks. I finally see some others posting about in the items forums</p><p> </p>