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duc7
02-22-2005, 01:44 AM
<DIV>Is there anyone else besides me that thinks bards shouldnt even have stealth attacks? I'd rather they focus on our utility spells rather than keep these in.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> -Theyre only useful on opening attacks after that it's another 3 seconds to stealth again ( all the while your out of combat )</DIV> <DIV>- If grouped i'd rather get a debuff on the mob 1st ( should it require one ) while it's being pulled in as this is another 3 second cast, or cast Dissenting Cantata</DIV> <DIV>- Even when solo, i use Dissenting Cantata to pull as this does way better damage because Luckblade is so [FAAR-NERFED!] inconsistent. On blue con solo mobs, Luckblade can hit in the 90's all the way up to the low 200's</DIV>

Ladro209
02-22-2005, 01:57 AM
<blockquote><hr>duc748 wrote:<DIV>Theyre only useful on opening attacks after that it's another 3 seconds to stealth again ( all the while your out of combat )</DIV><DIV>I am not a big fan of stealth attacks either, but I use 1 everytime it's up during combat. Easiest way is to set a macro button to do the 3 commands for you, so it's just 1 button press. Make sure you use "Sneak" for it. The Mala's line doesn't seem to work during combat, but Sneak still does. Using Clara's Midnight Cadence I have had numerous 500+ stealth hits during combat, my highest being 590 so far.

duc7
02-22-2005, 02:11 AM
<DIV> Is Clara's at least more consistent damage wise? I would expect to have differences in ranges fighting yellow/orange/red mobs but the way Luckblade hits on blues/greens is pathetic</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>and</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I would macro it, if it did consistent damage w/Luckblade but at the moment it's not worth it. Guess i'll have to wait until i hit 35 for Clara's</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

Ladro209
02-22-2005, 05:00 AM
If you mean consistant as in being close to the same damage each time I attack, then no. I range from 150-500+ damage. Only seen it resisted a few times so it continues to be part fo my arsenal.

Tidena
03-08-2005, 03:40 AM
<DIV>I've noticed that for about the last month or so everytime I am in stealth mode and a group member attacks anything anywhere in the zone I come out of stealth. Is this a bug?? as it is very annoying.</DIV>

Windain
03-08-2005, 11:06 PM
<DIV>My adept back attack (Taffo's Dazzling Ditty) does more damage than my master stealth attack (Clara's Midnight Cadence) or my adept stealth attack (Startling Shreak), rather them fixed than removed.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Of course Clara's is a lower lvl ability, but still both of those should be doing much more damage to compensate from the damage loss by turning off attack and hitting sneak.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

Noiseylee
03-09-2005, 12:41 AM
<blockquote><hr>Tidenaya wrote:<DIV>I've noticed that for about the last month or so everytime I am in stealth mode and a group member attacks anything anywhere in the zone I come out of stealth. Is this a bug?? as it is very annoying.</DIV><hr></blockquote>It's your Bria's line song doing that. For some reason, it kicks me out of stealth, and makes me draw my weapons as soon as the regen ticks after anyone in my group picks a fight. Having Bria's up also draws me a whole heap of aggro on the pull, if the tank uses a ranged attack to reel mobs in (Mobs all have me targeted on the run in, although a single taunt from the tank sets things straight.) For now, I drop Bria's right before the tank pulls, and throw it up again after he's had a chance to get aggro solid. I have not had aggro problems doing things this way.

Glipkerio
03-10-2005, 04:48 AM
<DIV> I don't use the stealth attacks, I also don't use the bow special attacks either.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As a Troubador I group almost exclusively and using our stealth attacks in a group is just a waste of DPS and doesn't do considerably more than a regular back attack anyway. And in a group I'm never pulling so the bow ones are out.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

Tidena
03-10-2005, 09:43 PM
<DIV>Ive been doing the same as Glip. Leaving out sneak attacks and just opting for backstab types. Then concentrating on HOs. I'm going to give up on the sneaking attack until its fixed. </DIV>

thorvang
03-11-2005, 04:02 AM
from time to time i use the last art in the stealth attack line, just to see if i can ever hit the mob for the max damage described in the spell <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> (reached ~750 so far ^^)with higher mobs it's almost useless to even try getting stealthed in combat. the lvl 3 stealth breaks in most cases before the stealthed attack is casted.i think bards are way to melee orientated in eq2. selfbuffs with procs that need melee attacks, stealth attacks, high dmg flanking attacks... this should be the domain of classical melees like rogues.

Valdas
03-11-2005, 11:49 PM
<DIV>Thank you for posting a thread on stealth attacks.  For the last 2 levels I have been wondering why when the tank pulls something I pop out of stealth mode.  My tactic is going into stealth mode before the pull and open melee with Luckblade.  Using my stealth ability gives me 2 advantages.  I am invisible (so wanderers do not agro on me) and get an extra attack for 100-200 damage.  I consider it a small bonus to my damage capability.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>While fighting clay guardians in Varsoon, we were pulling fast enough to extra require mana regen.  I kept Bria's up the entire time.  I only got in one successful attack in a few hours of trying.  Only queueing up Walk Lightly and Luckblade would work.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Should bards get stealth attacks?  I don't know.  I just use the skills that Sony gives me to the best advantage that I can.  I will say that I do not stop combat to go into stealth mode to use Luckblade.  It takes too long and has very poor results.  (Besides, it is just not right).  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>[email protected]</DIV>

Xran
03-12-2005, 03:21 AM
Funny how we get stealth based attacks but are so crappy. The damage range is so huge it is not worth it.Plus we don't have any kind of quick stealth moves, unlike Predator's 1.0 sec stealth.Now that backstab moves are linked too, our dps are pretty poor for the most part. But the good thing is,we are still probably one of the top buffers that boosts entire's party usefulness and dps.