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aegil
10-14-2006, 01:42 AM
If I am currently Dual wielding weapons of approx. 50 damage rating each.What damage rating in a one-hander (assumeing 72% Double attack) would do an equivilant ammount of dps?thank you in advanceJustin<div></div>
a 58 DR one hander will be about equal<div></div>
Wildfury77
10-14-2006, 03:06 PM
<div></div>For the non-raider (solo/groups/light raiding)<i><u> if your DPS bonus isn't maxed then you are hurting yourself</u></i> by using dual wield rather sword +shield. e.g.<font color="#ff0000"><u><b>Tier 7 xegonite</b></u></font><u><font color="#ffff00">Single wield + shield: </font></u>DR 58.6 +56% DPS bonus from stamina line = 91.416 DR + you get the bonus from your shield, take for example the commonly availableDrelakor's Scale Shield: Protection 643 +20str +12agi +55health +737 magic (+10% heal proc if you are hit) - a good basic soloer/group players shield<font color="#ffff00"><u>Dual wield:</u> </font> DR 43.9 x2 = 87.8 (less damage) & less defence than the stamina line - some will say "you get 2 offensive procs with dual wield....". You can get shield with offensive proc (crafted) or heal.<u><b><font color="#ff0000">Summary: Similar damage, shield line gives better HPs, avoidance, and potentially resists.</font></b></u>e.g.Tier 7 best items available for non-raider<u><font color="#ffff00">Single wield + shield:</font></u><u><i>Available on broker/lootable</i></u>Ancient Velium Shortsword DR 71.2 +56% DPS bonus from stamina line = 111.072 DRArchaic Roundshield+8str +12agi +18sta +12wis +23int +80health +76power +284disease +497divine +355magic +355mental +284poison +71crushing +71piercing +71slashing protection 795<font color="#ffff00"><u>Dual wield: </u></font>Ancient velium kris x2 DR 53.4 x2 = 106.8<font color="#ff0000"><b><u>Summary: 2 velium kris has lower basic damage but will overtake the *sword+shield* due to 2 procs. However theres no way that very very slight damage edge is better or indeed equal to having better resists,avoidance and mitigation with the shield.</u></b><i><font color="#ffffff">This analysis considers Non-hardcore raiders in the endgame in claymore kit up to deathtoll/nizara looted and masters.......surely the stamina line wins for this group? (soloers/group players/light raiders).</font></i><b><i><font color="#ffffff"></font><font color="#ffffff"></font><font color="#ffffff">PLEASE discuss but try to think outside the regular raiding context <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></font></i></b><b><u></u></b></font><div></div><p>Message Edited by Wildfury77 on <span class=date_text>10-14-2006</span> <span class=time_text>04:07 AM</span>
MilkToa
10-14-2006, 07:26 PM
Just solve the equation2 * 50.0 = 1.72 * xx = 100/1.72 = 58.14 DR 1H
Rokjin
10-15-2006, 05:12 PM
<DIV>It doesn't quite work the way people have done above..</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Dual-wield DR is slightly inflated due to DW's being interrupted more in CA usage. Through a bunch of tests and parsing, I've figured out that in normal usage, a 1Hander will do approximately 70% of the damage of two same quality DW's. So you take the DR of DW's and multiply it by 0.7 to get the 'equivalent' 1h DR..</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So.. To WITHOUT AA's to match the raw 'quality' of two 50 DR weapons, (100 DR total) you'd need a 1hander with ~70 DR (ie: 100 * 0.7 = 70). This will of course be + or - a few DR depending on your fighting style, conditions, etc. So anything from 66-74 or so DR would be roughly on the mark.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Comparing DR's with AA's is a bad idea, since AA's impact your damage differently, with Wisdom being the only one that actually directly effects DR.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I would like to also remind people of the /weaponstats ingame command, which shows you the actual damage numbers that were hidden before. With it you can figure out the real damage you will do per swing, and figure out your true DPS from auto-attack..</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>
Axxon
10-16-2006, 08:53 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Rokjin wrote:<BR> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I would like to also remind people of the /weaponstats ingame command, which shows you the actual damage numbers that were hidden before. With it you can figure out the real damage you will do per swing, and figure out your true DPS from auto-attack..</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>:smileysurprised: I did not know about this. Two years almost and somehow I missed this....:smileysad: Thanks!<BR>
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