Tunare shared by both WoW and EQII

[Almaneg]

<DIV>I noticed the goddess tunare is a god in WoW and EQ2 and she is both the god of nature in both games. I was wondering was tunare a god that was worshipped in real life? How come she is so popular in so many rpgs?</DIV>

[Josgar]

<div></div>WoW having Tunare in it is kind of like them stealing.I don't think that Tunare is in WoW...<div></div><p>Message Edited by Josgar on <span class=date_text>11-19-2006</span> <span class=time_text>07:08 PM</span>

[Seffrid]

Aye, we all know which came first...:smileywink:!

[Almaneg]

Tunare is the nightelf goddess.<div></div>

[yohann koldheart]

tunare was in eq1 at launch  back in 97 , i think that was the year anyways.so if shes in wow, wow blows  they stealing content because they are to uncreatinve to think of it.<div></div>

[nightlith]

lol, that's pretty bad :/ Though considering the average wow player I don't think many will notice or care. Really, though, why does it matter? I see god's like Odin, Thor, and Zeus being used outside of their respective mythologies without Greeks or Vikings going all insane on webforums...<div></div>

[Josgar]

I couldn't find anywhere on the internet that says shes in WoW... If she is, SOE should sue.<div></div>

[Nanite]

<DIV>Nobody is going insane, their just pointing out (and rightfully so IMO) that it's kind of cheap for WoW to be using the same god as EQ does. Having a game use Zeus or Thor is OK, because their hostorical, and many games etc take place in historical (or quasi historical, ie a world that shares most norse or greek culture) settings. However for WoW to be using an EQ goddess, unless said goddess is actually a historical figure herself, seems really cheap.</DIV>

[fawdown]

It seems that in WoW it is the complete oposite alignment.  So I am thinking that it is supposed to make fun of the EQ diety.<div></div>

[Sharis]

You all do realize that Tunare is just an anagram for Nature right?<div></div>

[Josgar]

<div></div>You do realise that the anagram is a proper name used by the EQ universe... Under the trademark that says: All names and characters are trademarks of their rightful owners.<div></div><p>Message Edited by Josgar on <span class=date_text>11-19-2006</span> <span class=time_text>07:29 PM</span>

[Almaneg]

Josgar shes the [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] nightelf goddess okay.<div></div>

[Josgar]

<div></div>MY last message didnt say she wasnt, I just said her name is probabbly copyrighted.and my message before that said that I couldnt find anything on it, but it didnt mean I was saying that she wasnt the godess of the night elves.<div></div><p>Message Edited by Josgar on <span class=date_text>11-19-2006</span> <span class=time_text>07:34 PM</span>

[Almaneg]

I apologize WoWs tunare = elune.<div></div>

[Krayor]

<div></div><div></div>Elune is godess of the moon. Not even close to similar to Tunare. In fact, she's the only recorded real "god" in the WoW universe. Unless you consider the Titans as gods which I don't believe they are.Oh, I forgot about the "old gods" of Azeroth that the Titans defeated. Might make some merit to the argument that they are gods after all.<div></div><p>Message Edited by Krayor on <span class="date_text">11-19-2006</span> <span class="time_text">05:41 PM</span></p><p>Message Edited by Krayor on <span class=date_text>11-19-2006</span> <span class=time_text>05:43 PM</span>

[Almaneg]

Well acctually she is, taurens also worship elune who by them is known as the earth mother shes really like a nature goddess like tunare is.<div></div>

[Krayor]

This is news to me...Tauren actually worship the earth itself, referring to it as the "Earth Mother", in ancestrial shamanistic type worship. There's never been reference to Elune that I've seen, though. I don't think it's the same thing.<div></div>

[Pokeun]

Chill out everyone, sheez.WoW does not use Tunare.<div></div>

[Almaneg]

Nah taurens and nightelves worship and have the same beliefs thats why they are the only ones that can be druids, elune is the earthmother and the moongoddess so shes like the tunare of WoW.<div></div>

[Willias]

<div><blockquote><hr>Almanegra wrote:Well acctually she is, taurens also worship elune who by them is known as the earth mother shes really like a nature goddess like tunare is.<div></div><hr></blockquote>While this really doesn't belong here, since it has nothing to do with EQ2, Elune is a child of the Earthmother.Also, Tunare was the Goddess of Nature in EQ1, which was created before Night Elves even existed in Warcraft lore.</div>

[Cantat]

Tunare gets around. <span>:smileywink:</span><div></div>

[Laoch69]

<DIV><A href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunare" target=_blank><FONT color=#66ffff>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunare</FONT></A></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#66ffff></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#66ffff>eq ftw!</FONT></DIV>

[Rastaah]

Elune is the night elf goddess, I thought. (for the record there was elune in Dragonrealms too, as well as some others that are shared by many other games that came out after Dragonrealms, which was a smallish text MUD (1000 active players or so).

[Rastaah]

<P>Yes and taurens and night elves share a druid town as well (where they can portal and train etc.)     There are a lot of parallels in WOW and EQ2 , here are a couple</P> <P> </P> <P>1) Crossroads :  Both in WOW and Commonlands</P> <P>2) Wailing caverns in WOW and I forget the ones in common lands now but they are WC too (? someone help me out im senile)</P> <P>3) The new fae lands are very similar to the night elf lands (and nothing wrong with that, i think eq2 did a better job myself)</P> <P>4) Ironforge in WOW and Irontoes now in EQ2</P> <P> </P> <P>There are a few others that are really weird, as they aer almost identical naming wise, but I can't remember at the moment.</P> <P> </P> <P>Also Sony and Blizzard really are not on bad terms at all , just fyi.  They seem to be quite friendly .  (perhaps both being in So Cal?)</P>

[Willias]

<div><blockquote><hr>Rastaah wrote:<div></div><p>3) The new fae lands are very similar to the night elf lands (and nothing wrong with that, i think eq2 did a better job myself)</p> <p>4) Ironforge in WOW and Irontoes now in EQ2</p> <hr></blockquote>1 and 2 are true parallels, but I don't find these two to be.For 3, the lands of the Night Elves in WoW tend to be full of giant purple trees and plantlife of other odd colors.  No giant mushrooms either.For 4, the Irontoes existed in EQ1, and have been brought back to life in EQ2.  That's more of a parallel between the original game and its sequel, rather than a parallel between EQ2 and WoW.</div>

[Khalu]

<DIV>I don't see it as massively signifigant,  I find the similaritys as mentioned to be funny,   I mean is it gonna be a standard from now on for there to be a evil-aligned landmark called "crossroads" in a Sahara-themed low level area called "Commonlands"  with elephants, large cats, and ugly [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] ostrige derivations, and a dungeon that can be abbreveiated as "WC"?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>and sorry, even if WoW does not have giant mushrooms, and is less pseudo-realistic, the Fae starting area DOES greatly resemble Teldrassil in general feel and all. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Sphiriah]

Hey guys, WoW forums are that way -->.<div></div>

[Argyuile]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>nightlith wrote:lol, that's pretty bad :/ Though considering the average wow player I don't think many will notice or care. Really, though, why does it matter? I see god's like Odin, Thor, and Zeus being used outside of their respective mythologies without Greeks or Vikings going all insane on webforums...<div></div><hr></blockquote>Beware the VIKINGS SHALL PILLAGE ZEE WEB FORUMS!

[EvilAstroboy]

WoW basically ripped off half its zones and ideas from EQ1, then turned it into a mass market friendly grind fest. Still to give them credit it is a rather catchy game, however EQ2 just has more meat to it for me.

[Themaginator]

what the hell....did none of you play Warcraft 3...the night elf goddess  is Elune nothing to do with Tunare...omg<div></div>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>Tunare is in WoW? Seriously? Cool. Sony can sue them and force them to shut down now for copyright infringement!</DIV>

[Kendricke]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> nightlith wrote:<BR>lol, that's pretty bad :/ Though considering the average wow player I don't think many will notice or care. Really, though, why does it matter? I see god's like Odin, Thor, and Zeus being used outside of their respective mythologies without Greeks or Vikings going all insane on webforums...<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>...except that Odin, Thor, and Zeus are public domain concepts, and Tunare the nature goddess would be the intellectual property of SOE.  <EM><STRONG>IF</STRONG> </EM>the assertion is true that Blizzard is using the same name for the same basic concept in their own game, I would say it's an actionable issue at the very least.</P> <P><BR> </P><p>Message Edited by Kendricke on <span class=date_text>11-20-2006</span> <span class=time_text>07:51 AM</span>

[Rastaah]

<P>Hey Willias, no, I said they were parallel ie similar, and did not mention who came first.  Was simply pointing out similar things. I have played both games to extremes and do find the fae lands very much on par with night elf starter lands.   I like it though, certainly not complaining and I think Sony did a BETTER job and that includes the shrooms <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />   I was not even saying that they copied WOW though, WOW may very well have copied them</P> <P> </P> <P>(PS I hate WOW and I found EQ2 at the reccomendation of WOW's billing and CS manager, who no longer is! But still, just saying, they do work together to a degree, who knows what goes on when it comes to comparing and sharing notes.)</P><p>Message Edited by Rastaah on <span class=date_text>11-20-2006</span> <span class=time_text>08:51 AM</span>

[Mary the Prophetess]

<P>Tunare is an anagram of nature.  Tauren is also an anagram of nature.  Many fantasy games have similar archtypes.  I doubt WoW has the precise name Tunare, but the fact that there is a nature goddess in two MMORPGs is hardly shocking.</P> <P>The fact that there are geographic locations called the crossroads or the wailing caverns or caves is also not especially unusual.</P> <P>It's like saying EQ2 'stole' Halflings from D&D, who 'stole' them from Hobbits.  No copywrite violation there.</P> <P>This is a tempest in a teapot.</P>

[Velsha]

And here I thought "Tauren" had more to do with the word "Taurus".<div></div>

[Scarrlette]

This topic is about done. WoW official lore lists Elune as the Night Elf goddess, there is no mention of Tunare in their lore.Case closed.