View Full Version : QUEEN ANTONIA IS A BAST... I mean, is illegitimate

01-20-2005, 01:47 AM
<DIV>One of my characters finished the Freeport to Qeynos betrayal quest last night. The main NPC in this drama is Vishra, who stands in a small tent along the zone wall between the Thundering Steppes scarecrow fields and Blackburrow.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>In the last bit of dialog, Vishra slips and lets out that he is Antonia Bayle's fa... then he cuts off. Your character then responds with, "You were going to say father, weren't you?" Vishra gets agitated and says, "No! Friend! I meant friend!" He never denies being her father, though, admitting only to being her most devoted bodyguard, the soldier who has protected her all her life. He also slips in another place and calls her "Toni," certainly not the kind of endearment normally used by a common soldier for a queen.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I was floored. Could Vishra actually be the Queen's real father? Would this mean that Antonia holds the throne with no blood claim to it? Did the late queen mum, bored with her life, seduce an innocent young man of her husband's guard or was it a mutual flame, a kind of "Lancelot and Gueniver" kind of romance that could never be openly acknowledged? Did the King know? Did the King consent?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The wheels in Ksaa's Iksar mind began to turn quickly... Could this be why Antonia is so desperate to present a facade of cooperation and righteousness, to mask the crime of her conception? (Screwing, so to speak, with the rightful chain of succession is universally regarded as treason.) Does she foster goodness to diffuse the kind of ruthless power grab that, beyond doubt, would occure in Freeport under the same situation?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Unfortunately, this puts Ksaa in a most uncomfortable position. He was a crusader for Cazic-Thule who found purpose in the valor and might of Mithaniel Marr; that is why he betrayed. As a convert to the Truthbringer -- you know how the newly converted are -- he feels obligated now to expose the sordid scandal to the light of day, depose the [Removed for Content] queen (can I say [Removed for Content] in the forums?) and put someone of properly royal blood and unimpeachable pedigree on the throne of Qeynos, for all that is good and honorable.</DIV>

01-20-2005, 02:09 AM
Accoding to the lore in the manual, Antonia was living a life of obscurity on a random island, when it became known that she was "of the line" of the Queynos ruling house. Therefore, it's likely and fairly obvious that she came from less than 100% noble upbringing.

01-20-2005, 02:14 AM
<P> <HR> Athrynn wrote: Accoding to the lore in the manual, Antonia was living a life of obscurity on a random island, when it became known that she was "of the line" of the Queynos ruling house. Therefore, it's likely and fairly obvious that she came from less than 100% noble upbringing. <HR> </P> <P>Not necessarily. King Arthur was living a life of obscurity in a very rural place when it became known that he was Uthyr's son and therefore heir to the throne of the High King of England. He didn't know that he was Uthyr's son or that he was of royal blood. However, there was never a commoner who claimed to be Arthur's father -- the closest claimant was Uthyr's sworn man Ector, who was known to Arthur as his foster father. And while knowledge of Arthur's heritage was kept secret and was known only to a select few, with the magic of pulling the sword from the stone and the sworn testimony of those who were in the know, there was never any doubt about Arthur. Without knowing more about the Queen, her history and the circumstances of her being "found", I don't think any of these things apply to her.</P> <P>Anyway, the manual is so full of flaws and incorrect error, I don't consider it to be canon :smileysurprised: I'm much more inclined to believe what NPCs in the game tell me, and Vishra all but admitted to being Antonia's father. Not foster father, not the king's loyal servant raising his only child in secrecy to protect her from the enemies of Qeynos. Her <EM>father</EM>.</P> <P>There is definitely more to this story, and I want very much to find out what it might be.</P><p>Message Edited by RoseWhite on <span class=date_text>01-19-2005</span> <span class=time_text>01:22 PM</span>

01-20-2005, 02:45 AM
<DIV>The lore as I understand it through various sources (namely the character "interviews" of both Bayle and D'lere) is that back in the day Antonious Bayle the Somethingth got it on with an elf (high or wooden isn't specified) and she got pregnant.  Rather than carry the child to be raised as a half elf of the kingdom, she relocated to a small island in the Ocean of Tears that was home to a group of women devoted to Erollisi Marr (Goddess of Love) known as the Sisters of Erollisi.  They were mostly paladins, cleric, and somewhat like the Amazons "saving themselves" and forsaking men (usually as a result of some great heartbreak).  Men however weren't complete strangers to the island.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>It was on this island that Antonia Bayles decendents were born.  Over the centuries as the cataclysms hit the island was quite the refuge and remained untouched.  I would assume that survivors (including men of all races) found their way to the island and carried on the Bayle bloodline in one way or another.  When it was revealed to Antonia (thats not her birth name btw, all rulers of the Bayle family assumed the name Antonious in honor of their ancestors) that she was of the Bayle bloodline and that Qeynos needed her, she assumed her current role.  I'm not surprised that her "bodyguard" could be her father as long as her mother shared the same bloodline of Antonius Bayle from before.  Also, perhaps men of the Sisters of Erollisi served historically as bodyguards and the like, not that the women <EM>needed</EM> them to protect them...just yanno...stuff happens.  I can't remember where this lore was posted, perhaps you can find it at EQII.com, it was likely on the boards before the game went live and got erased or it may have been farmed out to some other fansite (IGN, etc).</DIV>

01-20-2005, 02:48 AM
<DIV>Ahhhh! Very interesting. That should temper Ksaa's fanaticism a bit. Thank you very much!</DIV>

01-20-2005, 02:56 AM
<DIV>found the <A href="http://eq2.crgaming.com/viewarticle.asp?Article=5927" target=_blank>interview</A>!!! :smileywink:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Figured it can't really get more canon than this.</DIV>

01-20-2005, 03:06 AM
<DIV>Umm... one star? Two stars? For posting what the devs wrote in to the game? For looking down the path layed out for players by what the devs wrote in to the game? </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>It sure would be nice if some of the one star stalkers would actually show their faces and explain why I deserve to be slapped for starting this thread. If they're not too cowardly, that is.</DIV>

01-20-2005, 03:07 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> TheWays wrote:<BR> <DIV>found the <A href="http://eq2.crgaming.com/viewarticle.asp?Article=5927" target=_blank>interview</A>!!! :smileywink:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Figured it can't really get more canon than this.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>Indeed :smileyhappy: Many thanks again, and five stars for you.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Edit: After reading the interview, I realize that I have wronged a genuinely generous and kind-hearted person. My apologies to all, and especially to Antonia Bayle, rightful and honorable ruler of Qeynos.</DIV><p>Message Edited by RoseWhite on <span class=date_text>01-19-2005</span> <span class=time_text>02:11 PM</span>

01-20-2005, 03:18 AM
<DIV>Here is the above-mentioned interview with the Queen. We've got it archived on our board because stuff like this vanishes. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I'm a passionate collector of lore of all varieties. *impish*</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><A href="http://p206.ezboard.com/fperegrine91564frm15.showMessage?topicID=47.topic" target=_blank>Moorgard's Interview With Queen Antonia</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Arana Faywhisper</DIV> <DIV>Wood Elven Warden</DIV> <DIV>Co-Leader, <A href="http://p206.ezboard.com/bperegrine91564" target=_blank>Fellowship of the Dragon</A></DIV> <DIV>Antonia Bayle</DIV>

01-20-2005, 10:49 AM
OMG so Lady Shae finally got lucky. and musta moved to Qeynos after Lucan took over since she used to be in that bar in WFP in EQ1. hmm and Antonia is single............<p>Message Edited by FilanFyretracker on <span class=date_text>01-19-2005</span> <span class=time_text>09:52 PM</span>

01-20-2005, 07:17 PM
<DIV>You know....knowng the whole deal with Firiona Vie I wouldnt be suprised if SHE was the one who "knocked boots" with Antonius and thus made the relatives of Antonia...but gladly they didnt stoop that low <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>