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Viromage
01-19-2005, 12:28 AM
<DIV>As the title says, just wondering if anyone has come up with anything new about these guys and what is on their minds...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

Sebastien
01-19-2005, 12:50 AM
Other than the lore in the prima guide, I don't think so. I had an interesting chat with an NPC in Beggar's Court. He was a bit paranoid, but he recounted the appearance of the Ratonga. According to him, one day emissaries from this race simply appeared in Freeport, and were taken to see Lucan. After an initial meeting, the city was suddenly swarmed by the rodents, as if they had been lurking underneath the city all along.This man wondered why a dictator as cold as Lucan would suddenly welcome this race with open arms, and my character's only reply was to speculate that they must possess something Lucan feels is of value to him...

Viromage
01-19-2005, 01:42 AM
<DIV>Well they did help FreePort smuggle in goods and stuff during all the years of seige.  That might have played a part in it.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

Sebastien
01-19-2005, 01:50 AM
That's true.. reading the guide more carefully I found"They are specialists in the acquisition of items and information." And then: "There were already a number of Ratonga acting as hired scouts in the Freeport Militia, so an alliance of sorts had existed before the Shattering occurred."

lichmeister
04-16-2007, 04:37 AM
<cite>Viromage wrote:</cite><blockquote>As the title says, just wondering if anyone has come up with anything new about these guys and what is on their minds...    </blockquote> heres the lore from the History of Ratonga: Since the world is changed and we come to live on the surface, some traditions may be lost.  May you learn the ratonga ways and keep them.  Many are the grains of sand in the desert and also many are the years of the ratonga.  Long did we dwell in the hidden places of the world, in the hidden places of the heart.  Listen now, my children, draw close to hear our story, our song. In the long-ago when the shape of the world was different, we first awoke in the darkness.  See our hands?  They are thin and quick and more agile than the hands of any other.  See our whiskers? They take the measure of the air and the thoughts of others. There are many paths to the light, but few that lead back into the darkness.  Many are those of the surface that fear the dark, but if they could see what we see in the light, they would fear that as well.  Light creates shadows.  Without light, there is no dark. In the darkness, the Ancient of ratonga whom we call Belaska was pursued by her enemies and they caught her.  She kept her fur combed and clean and slipped from their grasp, but they clung to her and would not let go.  She found a small tunnel and fled into it. Still her enemies grasped at her, pulling and pulling as Belaska twisted and clung to the sides of the tunnel.  She was stronger than her enemy and pulled herself free, but her enemies' hands had stripped the luxurious fur from her tail.  And that is why the ratonga tail has but fine silken hairs and not fur.  Run combs of ivory and bone through your fur often and you will live long. Through my own experiences, I have gained knowledge and insight into the ratonga. The worlds above change as the bright sun rises and sets.  Over and again, the days of the overworld come and go.  Feel the rhythm of their days, through light, then half-light, then dark and half-light again.  And while the overworld had its rhythm, so too had we our own. For is not all life of a rhythm?  That is why we dance, all who breathe and know that they live will dance to music, such beautiful and haunting music.  It is soft and gentle.  It is hard and fast.  It throbs like the pulse along the tenderest length of the neck.  Listen to the rhythms, children.  Listen! Those of the overworld cannot hear the music, do not feel the rhythms as we can.  And in those half-beats where they are unaware, we are keeping count.  Pulse for pulse, when the rhythm is in your blood and heart, it gives you speed and grace.  It gives you stealth. That is why there is the Dance of the Ancient, my children.  When the rhythms of the light and dark have spun past the world, young ratonga gather before their tribes to dance.  Those whose steps are most airy and graceful are taken and trained in the Ways of Belaska, of which we will say no more. There is a leader among them who feels the rhythms, however, and it is to this leader that we are drawn.  For around him he gathers power and prestige, and those who value these things value possessions of the world as well.  They hoard their treasures, and we have seen them. Through my own experiences, I have gained knowledge and insight into the ratonga. Know then, that we lived many seasons of the overworld in the dark places and we danced many times over the Dance of the Ancient before the people of the overworld first knew us.  They do not think as we do.  They do not feel the rhythms around them.  And so we watched. In one of the many wars of the overworld, our help we granted to the leader with prestige.  Through many of our secret paths (though not all) did we lead them to their victory.  And in thanks, their leader gave us a patch of the overland upon which to build homes such as theirs. Our feet are ever on the ground and we feel its rhythms though the overworlders feel it not.  And so, they trembled and cried when the rocks split and the waters churned, for they did not know it would happen.  We knew and we changed our rhythm to match.  In our many long lives, our places in the dark often change and shift.  It gives us purpose, to anticipate what may yet be.  We feel the changes and we change with them.  Look at our tails! Now, many of the old paths are shut and many new ones are open and we have seen them.  With our delicate fingers we have touched the secret centers of the world and felt its pulse.  Though it may always change its shape, its pulse is known to us. Changes come with the shifting of the worlds.  Learn the rhythm of the new world around us, but never forget the ways of our past.  While we are now in the overworld, our feet still touch the ground.  Sit in the open spaces of the overworld now and touch the sky as well.

Cusashorn
04-16-2007, 11:17 AM
Most racial lore has been shifted to the wayside. Nothing new on the Ratonga since nothing is focusing on them.

Jai
04-17-2007, 01:54 PM
<cite>Viromage wrote:</cite><blockquote>As the title says, just wondering if anyone has come up with anything new about these guys and what is on their minds...</blockquote> Cheese... Oh, and we're doing the same thing we do every day...trying to take over the world. *giggle*

Vhalen
04-17-2007, 03:22 PM
<p>I had heard from a friend of mine, an adventuring partner from Windstalker Pond, that he had discovered something in the land of elves and dwarves. He mentioned that this little find of his was a hint of the Ratonga agenda. He was going to show this bit of information to me, a partial manuscript. Unfortunately, before he could return to the bell tower, he met the blade of an assassin. The Qeynos Guard found that the killer engraved a symbol onto his victim's skin, a set of concentric circles with slashes over them. There was no manuscript to be found on the victim or in his house.</p>

Anaun
04-17-2007, 03:46 PM
Who Moved My Cheese?

Zenith
04-17-2007, 03:54 PM
<cite>Vhalen wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I had heard from a friend of mine, an adventuring partner from Windstalker Pond, that he had discovered something in the land of elves and dwarves. He mentioned that this little find of his was a hint of the Ratonga agenda. He was going to show this bit of information to me, a partial manuscript. Unfortunately, before he could return to the bell tower, he met the blade of an assassin. The Qeynos Guard found that the killer engraved a symbol onto his victim's skin, a set of concentric circles with slashes over them. There was no manuscript to be found on the victim or in his house.</p></blockquote> That's just like what's carved into the table in Windstalker Village. Hmm....

Kitsune286
04-18-2007, 07:43 PM
Hmms.. they symbol on the table resembles my own, but not quites... Intriguing. Must find out more!

Vollux
04-18-2007, 08:52 PM
<cite>Vhalen wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I had heard from a friend of mine, an adventuring partner from Windstalker Pond, that he had discovered something in the land of elves and dwarves. He mentioned that this little find of his was a hint of the Ratonga agenda. He was going to show this bit of information to me, a partial manuscript. Unfortunately, before he could return to the bell tower, he met the blade of an assassin. The Qeynos Guard found that the killer engraved a symbol onto his victim's skin, a set of concentric circles with slashes over them. There was no manuscript to be found on the victim or in his house.</p></blockquote><p>Anybody else feel like they are missing something here.  Vhalen keeps pointing us to Windstalker village over and over.  </p><p>I've worked every villager over repeatedly and they swear they don't have any infomation to give me and they have never meet Vhalen.  The bartender won't even sell me a drink anymore. </p>

Mirander_1
04-18-2007, 09:02 PM
/shrug.  The only odd thing I've come across in Windstalker Village is that Bloodsaber hideout hidden in the pond; but I do recall there being a lot of Ratongas in the Bloodsabers, back when I used to hunt them...

Shirlyn
04-18-2007, 09:06 PM
<cite>Vhalen wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I had heard from a friend of mine, an adventuring partner from Windstalker Pond, that he had discovered something in the land of elves and dwarves. He mentioned that this little find of his was a hint of the Ratonga agenda. He was going to show this bit of information to me, a partial manuscript. Unfortunately, before he could return to the bell tower, he met the blade of an assassin. The Qeynos Guard found that the killer engraved a symbol onto his victim's skin, a set of concentric circles with slashes over them. There was no manuscript to be found on the victim or in his house.</p></blockquote>hrm.... the land of elves and dwarves is Faydwer.... but there's only one bell tower i can think of, and its in the old world

Xova
04-18-2007, 09:10 PM
<cite>Shirlyn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Vhalen wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I had heard from a friend of mine, an adventuring partner from Windstalker Pond, that he had discovered something in the land of elves and dwarves. He mentioned that this little find of his was a hint of the Ratonga agenda. He was going to show this bit of information to me, a partial manuscript. Unfortunately, before he could return to the bell tower, he met the blade of an assassin. The Qeynos Guard found that the killer engraved a symbol onto his victim's skin, a set of concentric circles with slashes over them. There was no manuscript to be found on the victim or in his house.</p></blockquote>hrm.... the land of elves and dwarves is Faydwer.... but there's only one bell tower i can think of, and its in the old world </blockquote>I think Vahlen means before his friend could return to the belltower in Antonica (ie. where Vhalen resides), not some other belltower in Faydwer.

Mirander_1
04-18-2007, 09:11 PM
<cite>Shirlyn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Vhalen wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I had heard from a friend of mine, <span style="color: #ff3300"><b>an adventuring partner from Windstalker Pond,</b></span> that he had discovered something in the land of elves and dwarves. He mentioned that this little find of his was a hint of the Ratonga agenda. He was going to show this bit of information to me, a partial manuscript. Unfortunately, before he could return to the bell tower, he met the blade of an assassin. <span style="color: #ff3300"><b>The Qeynos Guard</b></span> found that the killer engraved a symbol onto his victim's skin, a set of concentric circles with slashes over them. There was no manuscript to be found on the victim or in his house.</p></blockquote>hrm.... the land of elves and dwarves is Faydwer.... but there's only one bell tower i can think of, and its in the old world </blockquote>Just a little added emphasis <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Zulian
04-18-2007, 09:26 PM
I wouldn't rule out that the manuscript was found in Faydwer, but the first hint definitely lies on Antonica.

Kitsune286
04-21-2007, 11:59 AM
Anyone have any more information? I wandered around antonica poking every QE Guard person I could find. Also sat up at the bell tower for a full day/night cycle (as I think the arrows are a clock face thing), but didn't see anything.

Zulian
04-21-2007, 12:43 PM
Nope, I sat in front of the stinkin' table for a full day/night cycle and nothing happened.  Also checked out Irontoe's East, Crow's Resting Place, the clock from Ak'Anon in Qeynos Harbor...I even tried following the path from Windstalker to the bell tower in the hope some evidence was dropped during the murder, but nothing.  I've been bugging everyone I talk to with the symbol, but no one has any ideas.

Vollux
04-26-2007, 07:53 PM
<p>Ok a long shot here.  But in his interview <a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/news_archive.vm?section=Community&month=032007&id=1104&direction=back" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">here</a> Vhalen mentioned the Unseen hand faction and a valuable 'tavern coin'.  </p><p>I thought this was a possible clue to the "plunder from above bringing down walls" mistakingly I thought the Crow coin was this coin.  I do not think it is anymore.  I did find out there is actaully an in game item called a <a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/items/item_profile.vm?itemId=86465" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">tavern coin</a>.  </p><p>I have never seen it and can't seem to find out any information on it.  I wonder if anyone that has the item could share some information about how they acquired it?</p>

IrishWonder
04-27-2007, 06:59 AM
The coin will grant the holder passage to Crow's Resting Place. As you can imagine, they're pretty secretive and very selective about who they let wander in there <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> If you ever find yourself chasing stolen swords, you might stumble across one of these coins.

Cusashorn
04-27-2007, 10:42 AM
<cite>IrishWonder wrote:</cite><blockquote>The coin will grant the holder passage to Crow's Resting Place. As you can imagine, they're pretty secretive and very selective about who they let wander in there <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> If you ever find yourself chasing stolen swords, you might stumble across one of these coins.</blockquote> No. This coin is ENTIRELY DIFFERENT from the SoD questline coin.

IrishWonder
04-27-2007, 11:12 AM
<p>Cusashorn wrote: </p><blockquote>No. This coin is ENTIRELY DIFFERENT from the SoD questline coin.</blockquote><p>From the interview with Vhalen, link posted above:</p><p><i>One faction I truly enjoyed bringing into the world is the Circle of the Unseen Hand. In the original EverQuest, the Hand was a thieves' guild located in the lawful city of Qeynos. As you might guess, over a period of 400 years, the law discovered them and booted them out of the city, but that was not the end of the Hand. They evolved into a global thieves' guild that maintains secret guild taverns in every major city on Norrath. <span style="font-size: xx-small">These taverns are safe houses for not only the members of the Hand, but for their allies or those willing to earn the right to carry one of the valuable tavern coins.</span> In the Swords of Destiny we get a greater glimpse of Crow's Resting Place, the Hand tavern located beneath the lawful city of Qeynos. You just can't keep a good thief away.</i></p><p>You get one in the Claymore Quest, and you get one in the Swords of Destiny quest. Both have you chasing stolen swords, and both grant you access to Crow's Resting Place. Sounds like the same coin to me <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

Cusashorn
04-27-2007, 11:54 AM
<cite>IrishWonder wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Cusashorn wrote: </p><blockquote>No. This coin is ENTIRELY DIFFERENT from the SoD questline coin.</blockquote><p>From the interview with Vhalen, link posted above:</p><p><i>One faction I truly enjoyed bringing into the world is the Circle of the Unseen Hand. In the original EverQuest, the Hand was a thieves' guild located in the lawful city of Qeynos. As you might guess, over a period of 400 years, the law discovered them and booted them out of the city, but that was not the end of the Hand. They evolved into a global thieves' guild that maintains secret guild taverns in every major city on Norrath. <span style="font-size: xx-small">These taverns are safe houses for not only the members of the Hand, but for their allies or those willing to earn the right to carry one of the valuable tavern coins.</span> In the Swords of Destiny we get a greater glimpse of Crow's Resting Place, the Hand tavern located beneath the lawful city of Qeynos. You just can't keep a good thief away.</i></p><p>You get one in the Claymore Quest, and you get one in the Swords of Destiny quest. Both have you chasing stolen swords, and both grant you access to Crow's Resting Place. Sounds like the same coin to me <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p></blockquote> Yeah but they're techincally two different coins. When did KoS come out? I know it was in the middle of February, but the database says this tavern coin was found on 02-02-06.

Vollux
04-27-2007, 02:09 PM
<cite>IrishWonder wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Cusashorn wrote: </p><blockquote>No. This coin is ENTIRELY DIFFERENT from the SoD questline coin.</blockquote><p>From the interview with Vhalen, link posted above:</p><p><i>One faction I truly enjoyed bringing into the world is the Circle of the Unseen Hand. In the original EverQuest, the Hand was a thieves' guild located in the lawful city of Qeynos. As you might guess, over a period of 400 years, the law discovered them and booted them out of the city, but that was not the end of the Hand. They evolved into a global thieves' guild that maintains secret guild taverns in every major city on Norrath. <span style="font-size: xx-small">These taverns are safe houses for not only the members of the Hand, but for their allies or those willing to earn the right to carry one of the valuable tavern coins.</span> In the Swords of Destiny we get a greater glimpse of Crow's Resting Place, the Hand tavern located beneath the lawful city of Qeynos. You just can't keep a good thief away.</i></p><p>You get one in the Claymore Quest, and you get one in the Swords of Destiny quest. Both have you chasing stolen swords, and both grant you access to Crow's Resting Place. Sounds like the same coin to me <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p></blockquote>If you mean the <a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/items/item_profile.vm?itemId=122916" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Disk Of Bylze</a> or <a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/items/item_profile.vm?itemId=150893" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Crow Coin</a> they are not the items I'm referring to.  I have both of them and neither is the <a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/items/item_profile.vm?itemId=86465" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Tavern coin</a> in question.

Jindrack
04-27-2007, 02:26 PM
That tavern coin is a "wooden coin [that] has the Hole in the Wall Tavern name inscribed on it."  You'll see it if you roll a new froglok. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Vollux
04-27-2007, 02:54 PM
Well pooh! 

Kitsune286
04-27-2007, 09:45 PM
<cite>Jindrack wrote:</cite><blockquote>That tavern coin is a "wooden coin [that] has the Hole in the Wall Tavern name inscribed on it."  You'll see it if you roll a new froglok. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></blockquote>Hmm... Well, I'd like to think I wouldn't have to roll a frog to find out more about this.

Articulas
05-02-2007, 04:04 PM
<cite>Vollux wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Vhalen wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I had heard from a friend of mine, an adventuring partner from Windstalker Pond, that he had discovered something in the land of elves and dwarves. He mentioned that this little find of his was a hint of the Ratonga agenda. He was going to show this bit of information to me, a partial manuscript. Unfortunately, before he could return to the bell tower, he met the blade of an assassin. The Qeynos Guard found that the killer engraved a symbol onto his victim's skin, a set of concentric circles with slashes over them. There was no manuscript to be found on the victim or in his house.</p></blockquote><p>Anybody else feel like they are missing something here.  Vhalen keeps pointing us to Windstalker village over and over.  </p><p>I've worked every villager over repeatedly and they swear they don't have any infomation to give me and they have never meet Vhalen.  The bartender won't even sell me a drink anymore. </p></blockquote>The only fun thing about windstalker village is their screams as you slaughter them and turn their corpses against their friends and family. ahhh yes, fun times. i love being a necro.

DocFlareon
05-03-2007, 01:31 PM
The sad thing is, PC ratonga are as in the dark as you furless giants. I's don't likes this, nos not at all.

Kryussius
05-03-2007, 07:33 PM
<cite>Jindrack wrote:</cite><blockquote> You'll see it if you roll a new froglok. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></blockquote> Yeah, but who'd want to do that?  <img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

DrkVsr
05-04-2007, 10:28 AM
<span style="font-size: small; color: #993300; font-family: comic sans ms,sand">Why should we have to re-roll our froggies if we want to see this supposed lore thing? Had enough trouble with sending Zabi to Big Bend as it was even if there isn't a big RP aspect behind him</span>

Ozymundas
05-19-2007, 06:51 AM
<p>I've been thinking of this for awhile and I hoped someone else would be able to investigate it further.  In the bank vault of Kaladim, while obtaining the statue for SoD2, I noticed a chest with a combination lock on it.  When you click it, it gives you the option to turn some dials and this immediately reminded me of the table in Windstalker Village.  I tried turning the dials to the 3 and 6 o'clock positions but I was wrong and the chest has a lockout timer on it before you can try again.  It's possible they are unrelated, or I chose the wrong dials to turn to 3 and 6.  Either way, I've not had the opportunity to get back into the vault and try again.  Anyone have more info on this?</p>

-Fluffy-
05-19-2007, 01:48 PM
<p>Turning the symbol on the chest correctly will result in a book called 'The New Path'. The book is tradeable.</p><p>The book details how the rodent races tricked all the other underfoot races into forming the Serillian Army and take over Kaladim. Unfortunately the book is a bit damaged so the end is missing <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

irish
05-19-2007, 06:32 PM
Does anyone know the correct combination for the chest?

Cusashorn
05-19-2007, 07:37 PM
<cite>-Fluffy- wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Turning the symbol on the chest correctly will result in a book called 'The New Path'. The book is tradeable.</p><p>The book details how the rodent races tricked all the other underfoot races into forming the Serillian Army and take over Kaladim. Unfortunately the book is a bit damaged so the end is missing <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p></blockquote> Is the book a quest item or house item?

PassingStranger
05-19-2007, 10:38 PM
The only book I came across aside from the history one is a book/quest somewhere in one or both of the cities (Freeport and Qeynos I mean, I don't remember where specifically, though) that you can pick up called "Dance of the Ancient" which is about ratonga. Doesn't shed much light on anything, unfortunately.

Controlor
05-19-2007, 11:49 PM
Is this a possability? (And befor you even say "but they are on compleatly different continents" hear me out i know that fact <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> ). Chypp (silent "p&quot<img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> talks about the rat wars. And when they were underground they were mutated to be able to speak. There was a rat-y paradice befor hte first rat wars. And then subsiquently the second rat wars. (believe if i understood it right they were talking about the dark elves invading the underrelm befor the 1st war. Then "Tick Tocks" for the second (akanon). If it was talking about dark elves and not gnomes (it could have been gnomes) then it shows that they were on that part of the continent itself. And we know that the continents underground are huge and could have connected to akanon also anyways i digress. So Taking what Chypp (silent "p&quot<img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> says about how the rats were mutated. Obviously after the 1st war there was unrest and could have had a more evil inclined race (or scavanger inclined i guess). Could the Ratonga be an offshoot of this mutating under the ground. Even in the dancing one they are underground (obviolusly it was because the orcs could find em easily above). So they are adept to the underground. And they arnt nesicarily evil but looking out for themselves cause they have no one else to (i see em more neutral but again thats off topic). SO in conclusion is there any evidence that would sugest this theory of the ratonga is false. As there is not much known on the rats to say where they came from. And there is a rat who can talk who said that his kind were mutated..... Mutation enough over centuries could have caused this. (If what chypp is talking about is correct they were mutated befor akanon was even founded.)

Ozymundas
05-20-2007, 01:35 AM
<cite>-Fluffy- wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Turning the symbol on the chest correctly will result in a book called 'The New Path'. The book is tradeable.</p><p>The book details how the rodent races tricked all the other underfoot races into forming the Serillian Army and take over Kaladim. Unfortunately the book is a bit damaged so the end is missing <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p></blockquote> Any chance you could get us screenshots or a transcript of the book?  I'd love to see it, but I rarely have the time to assemble a group in Kaladim to storm the vault.

-Fluffy-
05-20-2007, 08:27 AM
<p>The book is a house item, there is no quest associated with it as far as I can tell.</p><p>You probably can't open the chest if you haven't examined the table in Windstalker Village to get the right combination.</p><p><img src="http://www.fluffy.dk/images/new_path.jpg" border="0"></p>

Mirander_1
05-20-2007, 05:20 PM
Ok, so the Rats went and tricked all the other races into joining the Serilian Horde for some purpose.  So they have listed the Bugbears, the Goblins, the Mushroom Men, and the Kobolds; but what are the 'Iron Lords'?  It sounds like they're servants of Naggy, but I can't figure out the race.  And then there's mention of an alliance with a surface race, any ideas on this?  My best guess would be that the Serilian Horde Rats are making an alliance with the Ratonga of Freeport.  Or, since this is on Faydwer, it could be Mayong Mistmoore. Then there's the question, who is The One on the first page?  At first, I would think it's Brell, or some prophet of Brell, but now I'm not so sure.  Another god? Or some other power? EDIT: Actually, after a bit of searching, I came across <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?start=0&topic_id=187539�" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">this</a> post from <span style="color: #ff3300">Vhalen</span> about Ratonga and their worship practices: <p>"From what outsiders can decipher, most ratonga and all roekillik worship a deity named Caertex. He is a mad being of supreme mental powers. Along with these powers comes the inability to block the thoughts of other entities within a massive range. This rat-like deity is said to exist deep in the Plane of Underfoot, within a portion called the Endless Tunnels. This is said to be a place not even planars venture. Those who enter the Endless Tunnels are lost forever. Here can be found the only peaceful sanctum for Caertex, who hides from the thoughts of nearly an entire plane."</p> <div align="right"> </div>

Controlor
05-20-2007, 06:14 PM
<cite>Mirander_1 wrote:</cite><blockquote>Ok, so the Rats went and tricked all the other races into joining the Serilian Horde for some purpose.  So they have listed the Bugbears, the Goblins, the Mushroom Men, and the Kobolds; but what are the <span style="color: #6699ff">'Iron Lords'?  It sounds like they're servants of Naggy, but I can't figure out the race.  </span> And then there's mention of an alliance with a surface race, any ideas on this?  My best guess would be that the Serilian Horde Rats are making an alliance with the Ratonga of Freeport.  Or, since this is on Faydwer, it could be Mayong Mistmoore. Then there's the question, who is The One on the first page?  At first, I would think it's Brell, or some prophet of Brell, but now I'm not so sure.  Another god? Or some other power? EDIT: Actually, after a bit of searching, I came across <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?start=0&topic_id=187539�" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">this</a> post from <span style="color: #ff3300">Vhalen</span> about Ratonga and their worship practices: <p>"From what outsiders can decipher, most ratonga and all roekillik worship a deity named Caertex. He is a mad being of supreme mental powers. Along with these powers comes the inability to block the thoughts of other entities within a massive range. This rat-like deity is said to exist deep in the Plane of Underfoot, within a portion called the Endless Tunnels. This is said to be a place not even planars venture. Those who enter the Endless Tunnels are lost forever. Here can be found the only peaceful sanctum for Caertex, who hides from the thoughts of nearly an entire plane." </p></blockquote>My guess is the giants. It deffinatly does sound like servants of naggy. The red. Inferno Abyss. Et all. But again would guess that the iron lords would be the fire giants. Who do serve naggy. Throw in the fact that they make the magical "relic" gear for you.

irish
05-20-2007, 06:46 PM
The iron lords are minotaurs they are right there in Kaladim.

Cusashorn
05-20-2007, 06:59 PM
There's no minotaurs in Kaladim. What are you talking about?

Mirander_1
05-20-2007, 07:07 PM
Looking on the Kaladim map at eq2.gamepressure, they do have marked the location of a mob named Iron Lord Kraxxixis, though he's not on any other bestiary I could find.

Cusashorn
05-20-2007, 07:12 PM
<p>I thought he was a nightblood?</p><p>Well regardless, one minotaur-like mob doesn't mean they exist in Kaladim.</p>

Mirander_1
05-20-2007, 07:15 PM
<i>*shrugs*</i>  Well, I don't know what race he is, but there is at least one mob in the zone that we can use to figure out what the Iron Lords are.

Vyrance
05-20-2007, 08:45 PM
I thought the Iron Lords were the rock-beings

Mirander_1
05-20-2007, 11:17 PM
I actually went to Kaladim to check it out, and the Iron Lord there is a Minotaur with a sorta flaming effect on him.  He's on the roof of one of the buildings in the cavern before the mine tunnel and the Underfoot Cathedral

-Fluffy-
05-21-2007, 10:04 AM
<p>Iron Lord Kraxxixis(nightblood) and his PH an iron lord(flaming minotaur) both have the sub title Iron Lords of Crundom.</p><p>And I kinda figure the forbidden ally from above might be a bit higher up than the surface, like maybe the Kragploom Aviaks of Butcherblock. The book hints that they are to be used as spies and who would be better that the Aviaks for that?</p>

Cusashorn
05-22-2007, 02:33 PM
Anyone know the combo on the chest? I can't find the post talking about that thing at Windstalker Village.

Cusashorn
05-22-2007, 09:45 PM
Anyone know?

Lodrelhai
05-23-2007, 06:35 AM
Don't know the combo per se, but examining the table in Windstalker, I get this: It looks like someone has carved rings onto the table.  Each ring rests within another.  There are two arrows also carved around the outer ring.  A large arrow points to 3 o'clock while a smaller arrow points to 6 o'clock. Hope that helps!

DocFlareon
05-26-2007, 07:51 PM
I'd like to mention that the of the NPCs involved with "In Honor and Service" makes mention of Caertex.  The Mushroom King lost his kingdom in the Underfoot when Caertex filled the shrools with new ideas.

steelbadger
05-27-2007, 09:49 AM
Ok, that book was interesting. This book fits in very neatly with the Prima info on Ratongas N'Gurai is mentioned as the "Great Mage" that leads the Roekillik after the Vault of Serilis is broken.  N'Gurai leads them to the ancient Dark Elf fortress of Anetiff, which is neatly mentioned at the first page of this new book. What I see: N'Gurai is the leader of the Roekillik, he used to direct them against the Ratonga, but now has changed his "master plan".  Notice that Caertex will be "A false prophet and king" suggesting to me that Vhalen's comment posted earlier: <div align="center">"From what outsiders can decipher, most ratonga and all Roekillik worship a deity named Caertex. He is a mad being of supreme mental powers. Along with these powers comes the inability to block the thoughts of other entities within a massive range. This rat-like deity is said to exist deep in the Plane of Underfoot, within a portion called the Endless Tunnels. This is said to be a place not even planars venture. Those who enter the Endless Tunnels are lost forever. Here can be found the only peaceful sanctum for Caertex, who hides from the thoughts of nearly an entire plane." <div align="left"> Is very interesting, N'Gurai already held a venerated position among the Roekillik, so he is not the new king, King Caertex must be, as he is mentioned elsewhere as carrying out the acts described in plan in this book.  Now "He shall carry the name of the supreme father", either I am wrong and infact the Avatar of Serilis is this false king (but does not seem to be trully sentient, and has had no obvious hand in the raising of the Serilian Horde) or King Caertex is named after this diety Vhalen mentions.  I believe that this diety, while not mentioned by name is "The One" mentioned at the very beginning, for a while I thought it was a mix-up between N'Gurai and this "supreme father", however I now think that all is contiguous, and that they worship a deity called Caertex, and that the spiritual leader of the Roekillik (and thus the serilian horde) is N'Gurai.  This deity of Caertex may even be a fabrication by N'Gurai to allow him greater power.  King Caertex is simply a jack-in-office who does what N'Gurai says, but nevertheless seems to have considerable support among the Serilians. anyway, thats what I read from it... </div> </div>

irish
07-09-2007, 05:52 PM
<p>Does anyone know the correct way to get the dials to work ive tried the 3 and 6 positions and nothing happened?</p>

Cusashorn
07-09-2007, 06:36 PM
East then South. You have to wait 24 hours before you can try again though, so check back tomarrow.

irish
07-10-2007, 05:55 PM
Thanks Cusahorn. I realized what I did too, its very touchy where on the line you click , had to camp out in there for 24 hours lol. Anyone find If this book has more to it or it leads anywhere?

Ozymundas
07-13-2007, 05:17 AM
<cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I thought he was a nightblood?</p><p>Well regardless, one minotaur-like mob doesn't mean they exist in Kaladim.</p></blockquote><p> Clan Bullcrusher?!</p><p><img src="http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/2597/minotaurai3.jpg" border="0"></p>

DrkVsr
07-16-2007, 09:04 AM
<span style="font-size: small; color: #993300; font-family: comic sans ms,sand">"Clan Boombottom"? Is their primary diet made up of spicy foods?</span>

chickennuggets
02-10-2009, 02:00 PM
<p>trying to catch up on this ongoing conversation.</p><p>where is this concentric circle symbol carved in a table in Windstalker Village?  do we have to have a certain item or complete a certain quest to see this?</p>

Cusashorn
02-10-2009, 02:06 PM
<p>It's in the main windstalker building. It is not something you will be able to see. it won't highlight or anything, but when you mouse over it, you'll see it. Just click on that and then you can go get the book from kaladim... Good luck getting into the vault in the first place though.</p>

Eugam
02-11-2009, 06:05 AM
<p><cite>Sebastien wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>Other than the lore in the prima guide, I don't think so. I had an interesting chat with an NPC in Beggar's Court. He was a bit paranoid, but he recounted the appearance of the Ratonga. According to him, one day emissaries from this race simply appeared in Freeport, and were taken to see Lucan. After an initial meeting, the city was suddenly swarmed by the rodents, as if they had been lurking underneath the city all along.This man wondered why a dictator as cold as Lucan would suddenly welcome this race with open arms, and my character's only reply was to speculate that they must possess something Lucan feels is of value to him...</blockquote><p>I had an interessting conversation with a gnome in Moors of Ykesha. He admited that the Ratonga understand the whole airship stuff better then the gnomes. The Ratongas seem to have hidden talents <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

Seidhkona
02-11-2009, 06:51 PM
<p>I found today that slaying Roekillik gets you Ratonga love notes.</p>

Cusashorn
02-11-2009, 09:06 PM
<p>^ merely a game mechanic though.</p>

Enever
02-18-2009, 03:07 PM
<p>*kicks the post up* C'mon, We need more information... Lots of people have been asking for it for a while O.o.</p><p>As for somethign else, Ratonga aparently know more about the airships then the Gnomes do, if you do the TSo quest line, the gnome mentions it breifly.</p>

Rezikai
02-18-2009, 04:22 PM
<p><cite>Enever wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>*kicks the post up* C'mon, We need more information... Lots of people have been asking for it for a while O.o.</p></blockquote><p>More info?.. hmmm Oh !..  Kerrans think they are quite tastey!.... as do i!  -cleans teeth with a toothpick-</p>

Meirril
02-20-2009, 11:48 AM
<p>Hmm...missing dwarves. A secret mission to break into the vault. Velious looming in the distance.</p><p>Maybe we'll get a crack at the Serillian Hord in a new Coldain Ring War kinda quest line in Velious? I'm betting that is where the dwarves of Kaladim disappeared to. Hopefully they didn't take up residence in The Hole!</p>

Naubeta
02-20-2009, 06:02 PM
<p><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>It's in the main windstalker building. It is not something you will be able to see. it won't highlight or anything, but when you <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">mouse</span><strong> ratonga</strong> over it, you'll see it. Just click on that and then you can go get the book from kaladim... Good luck getting into the vault in the first place though.</p></blockquote><p>Just had to correct this!</p>

GrunEQ
02-21-2009, 04:27 PM
<p><span style="font-size: small; font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif;">After reading this I took my 80 ratonga swashy out to Windstalker Village to look at the table.  It told me it had a design similar to one I had.  But there was no book.  <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" /></span></p>

Cusashorn
02-21-2009, 04:32 PM
<p>Yep. That was only the first part. Now you gotta get the blast barrel off of that gorilla named mob in Kaladim (must be at least a green con), then break into the bank vault. Then you gotta open the vault, but you have only one chance to get the combonation right, or you have to wait 24 hour (real world) for it to unlock.</p>

Lleren
03-23-2009, 07:55 PM
<p><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Yep. That was only the first part. Now you gotta get the blast barrel off of that gorilla named mob in Kaladim (must be at least a green con), then break into the bank vault. Then you gotta open the vault, but you have only one chance to get the combonation right, or you have to wait 24 hour (real world) for it to unlock.</p></blockquote><p>The gorilla drops the barrel even if grey con now</p>

RaphaNissi
03-24-2009, 05:49 PM
<p>You can also get a blasting keg off of the two named goblins in the entrance towers.</p>